kellog010

Caleb is tragically dumb. He put up his one true ally in the house who was not going after him. Now he can't play HOH next week and when one of the Hitmen win - he's going on the block with Victoria and will likely be booted next. No way they take Caleb over Victoria to F3. Frankie already knows he's going home. No one had to tell him anything, he's not an idiot. He even told Caleb Derrick's entire game strategy and it went over Caleb's head. Caleb is too blinded by his ego that he is "beastmode" when he is only there because other people let him be. Now that Frankie is going home, they might as well just hand the check over to Derrick and spare us having to watch another week of Derrick mind-fucking everyone.

Right now Caleb is fully brainwashed and is going to get Frankie put up and voted out. Caleb is just signing the end of his big brother life with this move. No way Derrick and Cody are taking him further after this when Caleb can't play HOH next week. Derrick is going to get his Victoria/Cody and him F3 and guarantee himself a win because those 2 fools will fight each other over who will take Derrick with them.

Honestly, I think this season deserves a Final 2 of Derrick and Frankie, the only 2 guys in the house who did anything all summer. Unpopular opinion but I want Frankie to win that veto. I do think that Frankie threw this HOH because it really served no purpose for him to win it. Either he won and was safe this week then evicted next week not being able to play HOH or he takes his chances in the veto this week. Next week is the more vital week to win HOH. It's a gamble but he knows he not safe anyway with these guys so why not. If Frankie is out door this week, they might as well just hand Derrick the check at that point because to me there would be no point in watching the rest of this shake down. ETA: These guys all plotting to take Frankie out this week when they had chances for almost a month makes me laugh though. They all talk like they are big game players when not one of them actually made a move when they had a chance.

This may be a very unpopular opinion but after sleeping on it, I've come to the conclusion I don't want Derrick to win. There's just something about his game play that doesn't sit right with me. After Derrick manipulating Nicole into apologizing to him and this "plan" he concocted for Victoria, I need him taken down. I don't want Cody to win either because all he's done is whine and complain and ride Derrick's coat tails. I would be ok with a Frankie, Caleb and Victoria F3 and one of those taking the win at this point. As much as Frankie is not liked, he's played this game and has the wins to prove it. Frankie has really been the only one capable of challenging Derrick's game this season. A couple others saw through Derrick but couldn't do anything about it or save themselves like Frankie has. If it weren't for this rewind, there would be no doubt to me that Frankie would advance to F2 and I want him to though it's a long shot at this point. I don't think I can stomach watching Derrick mind fuck his way to win.

To me it doesn't matter if Frankie believes the story or not. Either way, he's very likely going home tomorrow or he's winning his way to the finale. He's an underdog in any scenario to win but I think he could possibly surprise and actually beat Derrick with jury votes. We get a jury update tomorrow, guess we'll see the vibe of the group then. If Frankie is not gone tomorrow I want to see the Derrick and Frankie showdown because that will be good TV. CBS is probably mad about that twist now. ETA: If there is no eviction and the week plays over, wonder if it's a double evict for F3? Because with the finale the 24th how will they fit it all in? I'm not sure on the dates and how the work. If Cody or Victoria wins HOH, I think Frankie and Caleb get put up. That way no matter who won veto you got one out. I don't think Derrick can play HOH.

I agree that Derrick only seems to be a mastermind because most of these house guests are sheep. The ones who showed the most resistance to Derrick were sent to jury. The thing with Derrick is he accuses people of being paranoid when he himself is extremely so. He overplays his hand and these people refuse to see it even when it's spelled out to them. Even Frankie became susceptible to it but I think mainly because Frankie was distracted by Team America then both their grandfather's dying a week apart. Derrick has used Frankie's grandfather's death to manipulate him - I remember him doing this in the beehive one day and thought it was so low of him. Also, sending Zach home has had the opposite effect of what I think Derrick wanted - it freed Frankie's mind from distractions and he's had nothing but time to think since then. The only reason Frankie might go home now is because Derrick got lucky with this rewind stunt. Even though they all pushed the button too fast there was no doubt in my mind that it was going to get pushed anyway.

Even if somehow Victoria sounds convincing - Frankie has said many times he is under no illusion that any of those people are voting for him. Not one person who has left that house has told Frankie they'd vote for him and he knows they hate him - even Zach wouldn't commit to voting for him. This plan only works with Caleb and Cody. Regardless, I don't care if Frankie picks Derrick for F2 (if he got that far), because I think Frankie would actually have a shot if it got to that point. While Nicole has been in the house being brainwashed - Hayden, Zach and Donny had time to talk in jury and I'm certain they all compared notes. With Nicole and Christine back to jury Derrick may not be as secure as he thinks. Christine has so much dirt on the "bombanators", now that her Cody blinders are off she has to have put stuff together too.

This plan of Derricks, I don't think it's going to work unless Frankie is not there. Frankie is already starting to be disillusioned by Derrick and he's the least controllable one out of everyone and Derrick knows it. Frankie is fully capable of not only beating Derrick in comps and mental challenges but he also knows his back is to the wall and he has nothing to lose. He knows that unless he wins every comp he's out so why would he be loyal to any of these guys? This is why I hope Frankie can pull this off because that would make for an interesting end to this game. We've sat through it this long, might as well get something out of it.

Whatever Derrick is planning, what makes him think that any jury members would listen to anything that Victoria has to say? Donny seemed pretty onto Derrick before he left so who knows what he's been telling the other jurors. His speech, even if it was epic would be based on the fact that he mind fucked everyone in the house to get to the end. Who knows how that would be received. I can see Derrick maybe winning with that speech over Caleb or Cody who didn't have as strong games or do much of anything. If by some insanity Derrick is in F2 with Frankie, that's where I can see a divided jury. Frankie though ruthless in his game made no promises nor pandered to anyone for jury votes. He just straight up killed it in comps and would have survived to the end despite being public enemy #1 for most of the series. This rewind is going to be interesting. I think Frankie will lose the HOH and be put on the block, however he will still have the veto to play and his winning percentage is strong. This is where they would have to get him out if they ever could when they should have back doored him weeks ago. If Frankie stays this week, he could still possible sway Caleb back to his side for the F4 HOH or veto. I would actually like to see those 4 boys go to battle. It would make the last few weeks of the show watchable to me as opposed to watching Cody/Caleb/Victoria tongue bathe Derrick.

With the reset and them doing the week over, this gives Frankie 2 more chances to be safe no matter who wins HOH (and he could very well win at least one of those comps). At this point though, he is the target each week so it doesn't really matter because the chances for him to make F2 are very low with so many cards stacked against him. Frankie already said if him pushing the button means he goes home he'd still do it all over again. Should make some interesting viewing on Wednesday. I almost want Frankie to win POV then HOH again just see people's heads explode.

I think it's interesting that it seems like Derrick has been low-key keeping Frankie around. There have been plenty of times when he could have led the charge to get him out but he always finds a way to talk people into targeting someone else (Frankie has been BD target for 4 weeks!). Derrick has been getting rid of Frankie's support system, first Zach, and now trying with Caleb but I do wonder why he's doing this when he even admitted that Frankie is his biggest competition. Tonight's DE is so dependent on who wins HOH. Right now it's not looking good for Frankie despite Derricks best efforts to target Christine.

Call me crazy but I want Christine or Cody gone in the DE above anyone else. With Derrick being the puppet master to 5/6 people left the likelihood of Frankie going home is extremely high. If by some miracle Frankie does survive I think his blinders were removed and he will take out Derrick. Too bad he's the only one and it's too late. Nicole, was such a disappointment in her comeback.

CBS edit aside, Frankie has been campaigning to keep Donny and Derrick is the one who keeps shutting it down. Also, Victoria has filled in Derrick on what Nicole said to her and told him that Nicole would nominate Christine and Frankie if she won HOH. I really hope that Nicole is smarter than last time and is just playing everybody so she can stir the pot. I need Derrick in that chair to shake it up.

I've been poking around the live feeds curious and I need to see Nicole's DRs because she can't be this delusional to still trust Derrick after everything. She had a long conversation with Victoria and it felt like to me she knew that Victoria would report back to Derrick the conversation so she made it clear that she trusted Derrick but then she'd say something like she knows who stabbed her in the back and who not to trust without naming names and who else could that be but Derrick and Cody? If she's playing them kudos to her for snowing them and I hope she blindsides them when she wins HOH in the next couple weeks. I don't think Donny is buying the BS that Derrick is selling either and he already told Nicole earlier this week that when he gets evicted he's going to campaign for Frankie in the jury house if he makes F2. I don't think Donny really respects the game that Derrick is playing and sees right through him so it would be interesting because regardless of who is sitting up there with Derrick on finale night, Donny may sway the votes against him and he has the influence to do it. I think Derrick has already started planting seeds to other people about Cody so he doesn't get his hands dirty. Derrick also has been pushing the Christine has to go angle (even before Frankie). I don't know where he actually stands because this dude lies so much even in his DR sessions.

So here's my .02 cents. Derrick always had an unfair advantage over anyone in that house just by the nature of his job. He's been trained for years under the most stressful of situations to blend in and go undercover and be believable to criminals. He should never have been allowed to compete in this house because of that. None of the house guests really stood a chance. The only two house guests who even came close to figuring out Derrick is Donny and Frankie. Say what you will about Frankie but Frankie flat out asked Derrick if he was a cop a couple times so those two are no fools. Team America in my opinion killed this season because the three smartest house guests were on the same team and as a result never made moves against each other. Also, what happened with Frankie and Zach, in my opinion, was an inability to separate game from personal feelings. Frankie has been saying hurtful things because he was told that Zach has been faking it with him on a personal level. They have both said some pretty awful things about each other behind their backs and I'm not going to debate who owes who more of an apology because that's between them to figure out after the game if they want to. When the house guests watch the season back they will see that Derrick pretty much manipulated every situation in the game. If there is a buyback the only option for anything to change is for Hayden to come back and not fall back into the Derrick trap. Perhaps he teams back up with Donny and they recruit in Frankie's help as the lesser of two evils. Love or hate him Frankie has the most competition wins this entire season along with Donny. They have the brains and the physical, add in Hayden and there is little stopping them from winning week to week HOH or POV's until the end. That is the only way Derrick will be dethroned in my opinion.

I have to say Derrick is not afraid to play super dirty. He has turned the entire house against Frankie. Zach has taken it to a whole new level with his hatred and it seems so personal. Whether you like or dislike Frankie's game, it is just a game and lying and backstabbing is part of BB. None of these peoples hands are clean and they get mad at people for doing the same things as them week after week. Derrick and Cody are unscathed even though they betrayed Hayden/Nicole. Derrick has all these people under his thumb and no one will see or do anything about it, might as well just hand him the check and not waste our time. I think I'm out for the season.

Zach is acting like a scorned lover. He is not being rational at all and is killing himself in his anger at Frankie. This is like a soap opera. No one sees Derrick behind the scenes pulling the strings and they all run around like lunatics taking shots at each other while he remains unscathed. Some communication between every one would have fixed a lot of the drama. At least no one can say things are boring now. ETA: The things about Zach is he really is erratic and the only person who had any chance of talking Zach down from chaos was Frankie. Now we see what an off the rails Zach is really like. He needs his medication. ETA: Christine just threw Frankie under the bus to Derrick. It's going to be interesting because will Derrick forget the Team America challenge and vote out Frankie? I think Frankie's ship has finally sunk and he's getting a trip to jury.

Derrick told Christine and Frankie about the Rationale and told them everything. They all figured out that Hayden and Nicole were basically making them take each other out from within (which is smart). I think Derrick feels that at least with the Detonators he knows them and has more control over them than over the other side of the house. If they stick to the BS/Detonator alliance they can pick off Donny and Hayden before they start turning on each other. I think even Christine at this point can't be so stupid as to go with Nicole and Hayden again. If they vote to keep Zach, the flaw in the plan that Nicole and Hayden had is that Derrick is part of Team America with Frankie. None of the house guests know that Derrick and Frankie talk some game to each other. I don't think they are real allies but they are both strategists and this TA gives them a reason to keep each other around longer than they normally would. ETA: They had the halfway party tonight and it seems like since then everything got flipped. It has been a roller coaster the last few hours. Caleb is the one who brought up the numbers and that got Derrick really going. Derrick has always been wary of Nicole and Hayden's motives and their insistence that Zach has to leave (or backdoor Frankie). The plan as of now is to blindside Nicole/Hayden/Donny about keeping Zach. They are all going to pretend everything is the same. Derrick will talk to Victoria about keeping Zach. There is a still an entire day left so who knows if this will all hold together.

Zach being voted out is more about Frankie than it is about Zach himself in my opinion. These jerks are ready to throw out an alliance member who would never come after them just because he was in Frankie's back pocket and it made them nervous. Heaven forbid Derrick can't brainwash at least one person in that house. Derrick is already scheming on how to turn Caleb against Frankie as well since he's the last person left who is loyal to him. Frankie is like the walking dead to that group.

What killed the show was having Derrick and Frankie on Team America. It basically forced the two strongest players to the same side which is why the BS/Detonator alliance dominated early on. Those two guys couldn't build their army separately. Only now that Derrick has decided to split off and play the middle game are we now starting to see some moves. First move, cripple Frankie by removing Zach. And it's working, say what you will about how Frankie treated Zach but that was his most valuable asset. It's almost cruel to watch what's happening on the live feeds. Frankie needs a mercy eviction at this point. The next problem to me though is that none of the other players in my opinion, not Hayden or Donny or Cody or anyone else, can match Derrick in smarts and manipulation so that won't be fun to watch either. I'm close to being done with watching this after the upcoming double eviction.

It's not looking good for Zach right now but I don't think we'll know for sure if he's going until after the veto meeting. Derrick is going around right now listening to everyone's stories and processing. He has said to Cody/Hayden/Nicole they are voting Zach out but he has not said this Caleb or Victoria yet that I am aware of and he's spoken to them. He even told them that Zach is not targeting them. Derrick knows he can't trust Donny and is seeing his game and TA is not clouding him. I think Derrick has decided that he needs Frankie for TA more because Frankie will not back down like Donny would to do a task. Derrick has caught numerous people lying to him and he is thinking about the numbers. It's just a matter of who he thinks he can trust the least and it's not looking good for Christine right now in that regard. Cody is so easily manipulated, he knows Christine lied and he still takes what she says about Zach as truth. Cody claims he's calling people out after the veto meeting (this is funny to me). It's a long way to Thursday. If the nominations stay the same it's difficult at this point know what's going to happen by then.

Have these people talked about what they would do those 3 days Frankie was on the block? Frankie is no Amber and can be ruthless, would he really believe he's safe and has votes and keep his mouth shut? I still think it's smarter to BD him as the second evicted so he has no time to do anything if that's the road they're taking.

I'm wondering if Derrick is ok with back dooring Frankie as long as none of the Detonators have a part of it. Like if Hayden or Donny or Nicole wins POV and use it on Jacosta and put Frankie up that's fine, they make a case for keeping Zach. But if Cody or Derrick get the POV would he want to get his hands dirty? Particularly because Frankie is TA and he just threw shade to Donny on the live show for not going with the TA stuff. I don't think he has loyalty to TA but I think he'd use it until it wasn't useful to him anymore.

Derrick and Cody have mentioned to Zach they will not use the POV on him if they win because that just means another alliance member will go up in his place if they did. They told Zach they have the votes to keep him. If Derrick and Cody are being true I think they have at least 4 - Derrick, Cody, Caleb and Victoria (who will do what Derrick says). If Frankie is not an idiot he would vote with his alliance as well and that would be five votes. If Frankie goes against Zach then he deserves to be evicted because how the hell does he not see that Zach is the only one who is even close to being his ally. I take that with a grain of salt because I still think they want to get rid of Frankie ultimately. Love him or hate him, he is a very strong competitor and can beat most of them in competitions.

It's a little sad to watch Zach believe that Jacosta is the target this week while his boys are plotting to get rid of his boyfriend. The show must be eating this up hoping to get the two of them on the block together for ratings. ETA: Victoria focusing on the important things like looking fat in a bikini while chained to a shaved head Caleb. Caleb and Victoria chained together for 48 hours is like the viewers are being punished for something. ETA2: Not sure how sincere he is but Cody said if he won POV he will NOT be using it as to not force Nicole into a renom. I think Derrick can convince them to keep Zach if he remained on the block. Of course this group can never stick to anything so who the heck knows what will actually happen. I think the reason Cody wouldn't use POV is because he is protecting his own butt from being renomed and not because of Zach. ETA3: Realized there were other people in the room when Cody said this, namely Christine so that is probably all bullshit. They know Christine can't keep her mouth shut so I think the blindside back door of Frankie is still on. So much can happen until Monday.