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There are rumors on Jokers that Megaphone man may make an appearance and blow up Vanessa's game. Apparently ED mentioned it on his show or something. Hope that doesn't happen. Meg / James are getting ready to start their Trojan Horse plan, funny how everyone is planning to stay awake late tonight. James should realize this plan is going to backfire. He doesn't know it but this plan hinges on them having John's vote which they are assuming is automatic. ETA: So Vanessa is teaching Austin how to play chess with an audience of twins and Steve. Not like these people don't hang out all the time. I don't get how Meg / James can get the dynamics of the house so wrong. ETA2: Operation Trojan Horse apparently requires hours of sleeping to prepare.

The problem I see with James plan is that Vanessa, John and Steve have already said that voting out Julia only ensures that James/Austin/Liz and Meg team up which they don't want. The plan would need John and Steve to flip on Vanessa and go into a group where they know they have less of a shot of winning with that setup. Plus this plan also involves Steve taking the fall which he'd be dumb to shoulder.

I have to say, I'm still amazed that Vanessa managed to not have to nominate her two side pieces and got Julia on the block regardless of what happens Thursday. At least the feeds will be entertaining as Meg/James put their new plan into action. If they don't follow through on this plan and evict Meg, I think that softens the target on Vanessa. I think James would go for Austin.

I'm not going to blame James for not knowing that literally the entire house was in on putting Julia as the replacement nom with a promise from John and Steve to vote out Meg. However, once the twins find out this plan, James better sleep behind a locked door with one eye open.

In my opinion, as tempting as it may be to get rid of Julia, they need to vote out Meg. Otherwise, every week someone will be put on the block next to her and people will say "OMG, evict xxxx don't waste an HOH on Meg!" then you blink and she's F2. After Meg is gone, then they can all go to war with Austwins. Even James is going to have to realize striking anyone else first is foolish (Meg being out of his ear should give him clarity). They don't even all have to team up, it can just be a non-spoken understanding between all the non-Austwin houseguests.

Austin is already playing nice with James and I can tell he's ready to float again to summer camp. If Vanessa puts up John or Steve, they are going home. She has to know the Austwins are not trustworthy for her. James said to Meg that he will threaten Austwins if they vote out Meg he is going to put them up. Vanessa has to know this is the line. I think Vanessa just needs to put up Austin to save her game. Anything else and she's done.

If James was evicted, I suspect it might be tempting for Vanessa's "allies" to evict Vanessa during DE. That way they avoid a week on the block with her. I'd hate to see that happen and see someone like Meg who played summer camp and didn't really contribute much to her alliance get further. John/Steve would likely be forced to team with Meg if she remained and they'd be collateral damage before Meg. Or Meg would just straight up join Austwins and make F4 and become Austins goat. That would kill the season for me. However, If James makes it past the eviction and Meg is evicted then Vanessa evicted in DE, I can see James teaming up Steve/John against Austwins and he would likely make at least F2 or F3. However, I don't know if anyone has worked that scenario in their minds in the house.

I actually think Meg is the most dangerous person to leave in the house. Anyone sitting next to her is going to go home and Meg would float to the F2 as a goat. I don't think it's wasting an HOH to go after a player like that, too dangerous this late in the game.

Honestly, Meg is what will get James evicted. He can't make any moves because she's useless as an alliance member. If James makes it to F2 by some miracle he'll deserve to win just based on the fact he's been playing handicapped. I get Vanessa taking out Meg/James this week. If she struck at the Austwins, the 2 left plus Meg/James would be after her next week making it 4 x 2 since she can't play HOH. If they take out James, that makes the odds more in her favor and if an Austwin wins HOH she's likely not the target since they have taken out Austin's BFF James. I think once they realize it's a DE next week an Austwin will leave.

Everyone in the house needs to squeal to Vanessa how the Austwins betrayed her so she can have her reason to turn on them.

I'm praying that Vanessa sticks to her John/Steve herself alliance. Especially once Meg and James spill on the Austwins on how much they wanted her out. If she didn't win POV last week she was gone.

Austin already working on getting John out to Vanessa. I hope Vanessa doesn't fall for their BS. Everyone needs to spill.

We know that Vanessa is not going to nom the Austwins, she better work with John and Steve. I bet she targets Meg, which is not totally bad since everyone would take her and it isolates James. Double Eviction next week so hopefully the Austwins go then. I know the Austwins are going to pressure Vanessa to nom John, she better not.

I think Vanessa knows she's screwed right now. Meg/James have proved they can't be on her side because they ran right to the Austwins after John tried to flip the votes. She knows that Steve is lying to her and she can't completely trust him and I think she knows that the Austwins are playing all sides of the house. So the only thing she can do right now is appear like she is completely loyal to them. Spilling on John is not going to hurt her because everyone has already told the Austwins all. If Vanessa withholds anything they will get suspicious. I think Vanessa is banking on a return juror being willing to be on her side. I think the wheels are turning in James head so maybe he will start to buy a clue before it's too late for him. Meg is like a handicap to him, even if she won HOH.

Agree that Liz going is the best way to crack the trio, however I don't know who will make that move. Will the Gremlins or the return juror have Vanessa goggles on and waste an HOH on needlessly targeting her? Would Steve make that move to put up the Austwins? I feel that this next HOH is going to either make or break things.

Thing is..James / Meg have nothing to lose at this point. Even if the other juror comes in to work with them they are sitting ducks. If an Austwin wins HOH they will be a man down very shortly, if the Gremlins win HOH and put up anyone they are still outnumbered. It's just a matter of time and unless they trade HOH each week they are not likely to make it much farther (only Meg maybe). The same applies to Vanessa/Steve. Sure they may last a couple weeks longer or to F6 or F5 but they are against a trio that is as solid as it gets. In order for any group to have a shot I believe an Austwin needs to go next week. I would love to know what Vanessa is thinking because she is running out of people capable of winning HOH that will target the Austwins.

At this point, Vanessa can't push too much to save John without it looking suspicious so she has to agree with the Austwins. I hope John sees through their BS when the Austwins try to blame Vanessa for flipping votes on him and he either wins return juror comp or tells return juror to work with her. I believe this is the only way to get the Austwins out since Meg/James think it's "too soon". I fear if no one targets the Austwins next week this season is shot for me. I can't stand the thought of any of those 3 winning this game. At least Vanessa has played the game. My dream was for James and Vanessa to come to a truce for the common good but that seems unlikely. It would be silly for the returning juror to waste their time targeting Vanessa or Steve when their is a showmance and actual blood relatives still in the house who will control the votes after next week. Something needs to shake things up.

I'm wondering if Vanessa is putting a multi-layer plan in place. It sells the Austwins on her "loyalty", and she's on the "outs" with Steve and John. If she campaigns for John to Meg and James and they sell her out she knows for a fact that they are all working together otherwise why wouldn't they vote to keep John who'd target the Austwins over Steve who'd likely target them? She has to know going F4 with the Austwins is a death knell and the Brass Tacks alliance is a farce. I don't know, I'll see by tomorrow how things spin out because this is going to blow up in some way in the next 24 hours. Hopefully Vanessa knows what she's doing.

In watching the feeds, I feel Steve turned on Vanessa way before she turned on him. I can see why she would be personally hurt by Steve's actions.

I've been thinking the best shot is that if John is evicted, he or Becky win the return comp. Steve would have no choice but to work with Vanessa and I think Becky and John could work with her as well. This would make it 3 x 3 x 2 in the house and Becky/John or Steve could go for the twins. I think Shelli or Jackie coming back wouldn't work out. Jackie would go to James/Meg but Meg is a liability to them and they would likely target Vanessa and Steve/John and returning juror over the Austwins to be safe. Shelli may be too focused on Vanessa and would likely try to cater to the Austwins as well. I think if no one takes a shot next week at the Austwins, they will steamroll over the house.

At the rate Liz is going with Austin, I'm not shocked that Julia is ready to broaden her horizons. Austin can't fool Julia, he would sell her down to river to isolate Liz even more if he could. Liz must be suffering from some form of Stockholm Syndrome or the fumes from Austin's unwashed body are finally getting to her. It's going to be an good DE tonight depending on who wins HOH. So much potential for the house dynamics to shift. I'm still team Vanessa.

Now Jackie blows up Becky remembering how Becky said she flirted with Jeff for game. Another confirmation to back up Vanessa's story.

Once Vanessa tossed out the General's that solidified it. I saw it on James face yesterday because Vanessa couldn't have made that up. That was a mistake on Becky's part because it gives weight to Vanessa's arguments. Plus Becky is acting very paranoid and it shows. Add to that Shelli is not campaigning at all like she knows she's safe. There's still plenty of time until Thursday so I won't believe these votes are locked in until Shelli's out the door.

Austin may be the worst alliance member ever. James keeps opening the door to save Vanessa and Austin is trying to talk her out of the house.

Shelli latching onto Steve and the Austwins didn't go unnoticed. If she eventually gets around to campaigning tomorrow it may be too late for her. James, Meg and Jackie seem pretty set on keeping Vanessa - they are desperate for her to offer one of her famous deals. Wednesday into Thursday should be good feeds particularly once Becky and John get wind of the flip. If Becky protests the change in vote, it will tip her hand as James and Meg earlier realized that Becky wanted the veto used on Shelli to keep Steve on the block with Vanessa. They said they will not do the dirty work for Becky and will likely vote for what they feel is best for their game anyway.