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Here is our new Claire..

So Eve thought it was necessary to strip Ben down to his underwear to be shocked and brainwashed? Kinky! Or she's looking for revenge..they wasted no time with Chad and Gwen! From TVWatercooler: *Ben is haunted by his brainwashing. *Allie leaves a letter with a shocking request. *Sonny and Will work on their relationship. *Eve arrives in Salem. *Ben encounters Vincent in Marlena’s office. *Gwen kisses Chad! Eta: woah the extended promo. Gabi looking like she wants to pounce Jake in that towel..

Just putting this here. Pretty lengthy interview with KA. It makes me grasp her leaving more than SOD did. Still upset we arent getting an actual exit.

Holy shit! That promo 😲 I'm very concerned for the CIN fans who said Ben wouldnt LET Eve do anything to him because his looove for Ciara is too strong..ummmm...

Ciara better not only apologize to Claire for wrongfully accusing her but she better damn well kiss her ass for (unlike herself) using her brain and figuring out where her husband. Allie is so damn unlikable. Then I remembered years back Sami was even more obnoxious to her mother.

I have no doubt Eve will end up either in prison (or dead) after this, but Ciara and Ben getting a happy ending isnt happening. It would be a given if RSW was leaving along with VK but he's not. The actress that plays Allie doing her screentest with him though concerns me and I fear that is what we will have to endure.

I don't believe at all Kanye has been trying to divorce Kim for 2 years. IMO that's the ramblings of someone in way deep with a manic episode. I saw way too many things of them together and interviews the last couple of years where Kanye sounded like he really loves Kim, like to the point he worships her. Kim I could believe has considered divorce. Around the time of the slavery comments there were rumors she was fed up.

Sidenote but I'm stunned at the responses to that pic and the spoiler about Ben being brainwashed on twitter and instagram. People crying and actually hoping Ben or Ciara murders that "evil witch". Poor Ben has been through enough! Poor Ben paid his dues! Eve needs to stop being angry her daughter is dead! I think what they are going for is that death is too simple. Eve wants Ben to endure the same pain she did - by losing what he loves the most. There is an another spoiler that Ben pleads for Ciara's life and begs Eve to kill him instead.

Dayum!

Oh hell yeah to that ending! Exactly what I was thinking. I know THAT Ben is a far cry from the heroic good guy who has been changed by love we are seeing, but I wouldnt mind a reminder of how god awful he was and why Eve is doing this. Tbh I didn't think Eve was a great mother but still. Paige's murder was brutal. I would easily torture anyone who did that to my child.

Ciara asking if Ben might have any enemies.. I know love is blind but seriously?!

Oh boy! This actually very realistic especially since I'm figuring Ben will be dealing trauma (and no meds) while being held prisoner..

Not that I doubt their stupidity to wear masks in a crowded theme park, but are the pics current? Because Daily Mail has pics yesterday of Scott with his kids and North and Saint in Malibu. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8566705/Scott-Disick-enjoys-day-beach-daughter-Penelope-8-niece-North-7-nephew-Saint-4.html

EJ remains one of the most absurd cases of rapid aging. The character IIRC was like 8, went away for about 8 years and came back as 30ish James Scott. It was really laughable especially since we saw his eventual wife Sami once hold him when he was a baby!

I think he's apologizing for the abortion comment. Kanye was spotted going into a hospital emergency room earlier today for an undisclosed reason.

This is nuts to me. I mean, I know by now not to even try and make sense of some of the bizarre shit these OTT fanbases do but why on earth would CIN fans care about Sonny and Will leaving? Did they think Will was going to try and take Ben from Ciara? Oh the drama though. Its actually pretty funny. Some CIN fans dared to say they are open to a Ciara recast and another set of fan are calling them fake fans for suggesting such a thing. Then some seem to be in denial about VK being gone for good. IMO these tantrums of theirs are why they are phrasing the official PR as saying she wont be full time. Look at the tweets of the other cast members (especially Ron saying "hope you visit one day") Her departure sure as heck sounds final.

He's found on 8/5 apparently. That's way sooner than I expected and hoped for lol. In the promo Ben sees the person who has him and says "why would you blow up my wedding". If its definitely Eve he can't be that stupid can he? I had actually started to wonder if Ciara, in a rage, murders who did this and that might set up her exit.

I get being devastated but when Ciara was going off on Claire I wanted take Ben's shoe that she's clutching and smack her with it

Well, part of me feels bad for the CIN fans who feel like they just got gutted. This coming right after the wedding has to sting..but then, as I said upthread these people were brutal to Alan when he broke the news weeks ago. Downright nasty. So there's that part of me who doesnt feel bad. Oh well. Dare we hope we'll see less of Ben now? ETA: and now they are attacking Ron. Because obviously it was his decision!? 😂

Exactly. The new TMZ article says as much. This behavior can go on for weeks, what should Kim do? It also says Kim saw something started being really off with him even before the rally last week when he was in Dominican Republic and she flew there to be with him. The sad thing is it sounds like he doesnt trust her now.

I'm trying to get a handle on all these people with inside info and who is legit. Lysie I know is definitely reliable but is Alan? I know he's given inside info in the past but when he dropped the bit about VK leaving, someone else who claims to know people at DAYS contacted their source and called Alan a liar saying VK only took off for a couple of weeks for a family emergency..then again this person was a CIN so maybe they just wanted to discount him? Alan also says the Claire recast is 30ish.

I normally don't find VK all that great but damn if I didn't feel for Ciara today. And I can't stand CIN but ugh. When Ciara asked Hope to pray with her 😥 Jake was so much like Stefan today especially wearing that dress shirt. It just can't be said enough but Shut.Up.Julie. Holy hell that woman is obnoxious.

Larsa is pretty much a female Tristan anyway. Such a classy woman. This is the same woman who had an affair (with Future, TWICE) then had the audacity to blame her then husband by saying she needed to cheat since he was never around. The nerve of him to go out playing basketball and earning that massive paycheck she loved to spend.

If this guy is to be believed, SN was almost gone. I'm going with Matt and MR as next to go tbh.

Tristan! That was the rumor months ago. I believed it then and still believe it.