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Will is in client relations. He works for a financial institution but it is a stretch to call him an analyst. I agree that people are giving him too much benefit of the doubt. The lacking mental stimulation bit is an excuse. Will has said nothing indicating he is above average intelligence. I’m not understanding why people think he is smarter than Jasmine. All he has said is he wants to help people, coach kids, and is a great uncle. Plus, even if Jas was dumb, I’ve met several brilliant men with beautiful airhead wives. It is NOT true that all (or even most IMO) smart men can’t get it up for dumb women. I’m actually starting to wonder if something bigger is going on besides lack of attraction. I noticed the mention of him sleeping all the time. Maybe he is depressed or low on testosterone? Will also discussed feeling inadequate in prior relationships, which could be another reason for his hesitation to have sex. Idk but I’ve long thought there was something else going on with him.

Twitter is AH-mazing right now! I'm not watching but reading the twitter comments and cracking the hell up. Hope you all are too! Cassie might have been the best choice for bachelorette the way Colton is acting over her... too bad he trapped her!

Well I'm talking about the 37 year old log we see on our screens. He is not a match for most 20-year-olds. He would not work with a younger woman. He needs a woman at least 35, who has had all her fun, or maybe a woman older than him actually.

I've read this a couple times and don't understand why people think this. For one, I don't think Kristine would be the same way with Will as she is with Keith. I don't think she would be attracted to Will physically or to his personality. Keith, with all his faults, is objectionably attractive, nice beard and hairline, tall, friendly smile. I don't think Kristine (or most 20-year old women) would like Will, at all. And Kristine doesn't walk around in glasses or her hair pulled back, like Will desires to see women. I can't see them working, either.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying Will is wrong or giving him grief for not be a provider. I listed it as an example of a traditionally masculine trait, like being protective and assertive, that Will doesn't posses. Will is well within his right to not want to be responsible for all the household bills.

A 6.8? Will knew that score would upset Jasmine, who just gave herself a 7. He did it anyway. Most men know that question is a trap and flirt their way out of it. Not will. He calls her a 6.8 right after telling her she’s a pot of gold. What? And if a man knows giving his wife or gf or hell even friend an extra .2 will make her feel better, most will give her the extra .2, and give her the score she gave herself. Not Will. The only reason to knock off .2 points is to be petty. A few folks have said Jas isn’t as feminine as Kristine which is true. It has nothing to do with looks. We all have femine and masculine energy. Will has a lot of feminine energy. He is not as vocal as Luke but he is very much a guy that seems to mope around, not saying wants wrong with him, not asserting himself;no sexual prowess, no desire to be a provider, not protective (the way he just sat on that ATV when Jas was rolling over...). On the scale, he is more feminine than masculine energy to me. Will is that creepy guy staring at you at the bar or lounge, and won’t stop the whole time you’re there, but won’t approach you or say anything, and when you look at him his eyes start shifting back and forth, so you’re just weirded out, and you go link arms with a friend and ask them to protect you, and then Will goes home alone to bash women in the comment sections of YouTube videos lol

Will is no better catch that Jasmine, IMO. That's why I'm always confused by the anti-Jasmine comments. Jasmine isn't romantic, neither is Will. Jas isnt flirty, neither is Will. Jasmine isn't a good communicator. Has anyone heard Will say anything? Jasmine is average looking, so is Will. Jasmine is too masculine, well...Will has a lot of feminine energy--He is not assertive; he does let Jasmine lead; he doesn't initiate physical contact; he hasn't set standards for their marriage or made his expectations for Jasmine known; he's not a provider. That 6.8 rating was a passive-agressive jab, i.e. not very manly. I could go on. Nothing about Will is traditionally masculine, IMO . And I don't buy that it's Jasmine making him this way. I think this is how he is, a beta male nerd.

Kristine also cuts Keith slacks because she is at least physically attracted to him. IMO I do not think she would be physically attracted to Will.

Forgot to mention that Tayshia’s dress was fuego!!!

So he probably won’t pick Tayshia but I find myself really enjoying their moments. I think they will turn into great friends when this is all over. I know she is not well liked but I continue to think she would be a great bachelorette. And, honestly, in real life, long term, Colton would probably work best with her. I think true friendship is the best foundation for a relationship. I really liked Hannah G this ep. I know editing... but I couldn’t help it! I have her at #2 and, even though I like her, she seems too young to be bachelorette and I don’t want her on paradise (paradise ruins everyone I like). Hmmm... Cassie and caelynn are actresses IMO. These men always want the one who wants them the least so Cassie will win. Blah Can’t see them lasting. Bryce was so cute!! And so love Tayshia’s dad!

I dont know I kinda like Gabe or I just like looking at him or I just like someone calling all of the them liars constantly. I honestly thought Michaela was lying about her parents too. I do think they missed the boat on Wes/Michaela but can’t bring him back soo we have bootleg Wes. Didnt Michaela kill Sam, not Wes? I remember they all were in the house, but I thought she did it to protect Rebecca. Annalise/Tegan/Emette is such a winning trio this season.

^^ Yes, I remember Will's father being absent. And Keith's too I guess, since he said something about Kristine meeting him for the first time this episode. Some of the statements Jasmine made this episode made me believe Will didn't grow up in a stable environment. I believe she said he found a home at the playground or something like that. I don't think Jas has a fairytale in her head. She's stated her expectations are based on her parents' marriage.

^^ Funny but I think Danielle and Bobby fall in that category. I can't remember anything about Jamie 's and Doug's families. I also think most of the people this season meet this criteria. Kristine & Jasmine could have been in successful pairings if the producers actually matched them better. IMO

If you read my entire post, I mentioned Will being from a broken home. He has discussed his background a few times, and it sounds like he did not grow up in a stable, two parent home. Correct me if I missed something. I admit I tune out at times.

I'm certainly not saying Will could not be a decent spouse, ever, just that I don't see how he could flourish in this situation--marrying a complete stranger. Will and Keith probably need to date and live with a woman for a good amount of time before even thinking of saying "I do" and possibly also therapy. I think, for this show, you need emotionally healthy people from stable environments, who have seen functional marriages, for the experiment to work. The rest of us need more work before we can get married. JMO

Fair, I guess. I definitely think the producers keep prodding them to talk about finances because they know it's an issue. I've been assuming Will and Jasmine get so little air time because they are boring and/or stagnant. I just don't see why they would be cutting good stuff, if they had anything on camera. I feel like I still don't know what Will is looking for in a wife. Actually, I feel like I don't know him at all. I don't know if it's editing or Will just keep his cards close to his chest. I guess during the reunion, if they split, they will spell out all the reasons.

At least you can discuss expectations and get to a space of compromise before saying I do. I agree you have no clue what people are actually like until living with them, but you can do that too before marriage, which a lot of people do these days.

These "experts" paired two women from good families with two men from broken homes (to keep it polite). This almost never works in real life without a lot of therapy (based on the relationships I've known with this dynamic). I've seen it work in reverse, though. There's no way Keith and Will can meet Kristine and Jasmine's expectations without substantial help, when they don't even know where to start. I just don't think in this situation (marrying two people at first sight) women should be paired with men who have no clue how to be husbands or what expectations are in a marriage (and I'm talking bare minimum expectations). Everyone rags on Jasmine for her standards, ignoring the fact that Will doesn't state his expectations because he probably doesn't know anything about marriage. Disclaimer: I say all this as a woman who grew up raised by a single parent. I didn't grow up with money issues. BUT I can admit I have no clue what goes on in marriage, what a husband/wife should and should not do, and what happens when two people disagree about important stuff because I don't know; momma paid all the bills and made all the decisions. My only example was my grandparents' parents marriage, who were several decades in when I came into the world, so my expectations for marriage are likely outdated. So I also don't think anyone should marry me off at first sight. lol

People keep saying this, but how does this indicate she is not there for Colton? Her previous boyfriend was obviously someone she wasn't serious about or else she wouldn't be here. My guess is most contestants have someone they are dating when they sign up (because they are all good looking and young). Social media posts IMO do not indicate whether or not a relationship is serious. We all know people who "fake it for the gram [instagram]" I just don't see Tayshia auditioning for the bachelorette or BIP even. She seems pretty laser focused on Colton. Her body language is better than 99% of the other women with Colton. She's trying harder than every woman on this show I think. She is definitely playing to win Colton's heart. IMO Maybe she's just rebounding but I don't see her auditioning like the Demis and Caelynns. I don't see Cassie as auditioning really. I just don't hear any sincerity when she's talking to Colton, as I said earlier; it's like she's reading from a script. I don't get that from Tayshia. All that said, she clearly isn't the one for Colton. He is too simple for her. I think she would be a damn good bachelorette, and much better than the alternatives.

I don’t dislike any of the girls this season. First for me. But Cassie and Caelynn are totes scammers. They are both just so tv-ready. I feel no genuineness when they speak. I feel bad for Colton because he really like them. To me, he seems more sincere than almost all the girls. He should’ve kept Hannah B and Katie. IMO

We are here. I really don't think Jasmine is that awful. Yes, she "critiques" Will but I see it as teasing; she does it with a smile and laughter. She's not yelling at him or even frowning. He's the one always wearing a frown and also makes slick comments, and no we see he pretends to be sleep with his arm over his face when they get in bed so she doesn't touch him. His tone isn't particularly nice when speaking to Jasmine i.e. when barking at her to turn off the lights and close the door. I don't think Will is a nice guy, at all. I think he is just better at hiding things from the camera than the other men and does just enough to squeak by i.e. cooking for Jasmine in front of the camera IMO. Will's justification for not being romantic or intimate with Jas in any way is that he wants things to happen naturally, which I think is just an excuse for his laziness and not wanting to put forth any effort because he's not attracted to her. Jas and Kate are equally delusional in their hope for their marriages IMO. I am surprised by Kristine and Keith. I really am. Kristine seems to have no standards or just threw them out for this experiment, which may be necessary to be happy in it. I cannot believe she is having sex with this man-baby without protection. CAN NOT BELIEVE. She is just as desperate as Shawniece was, and I fear the same result for her.

I think it is very unlikely that the Jasmine we're seeing on this show did not tell the truth about what she wanted/expected in a marriage. She has been very vocal about her wants since the beginning. She is not acting like someone who hid their wishes; she brought up finances on the honeymoon! She's not a woman who hides her hand. IMO I think it is more likely that the experts IGNORED her wants. They are clearly not matching people based on what they asked for.

I don't think she did a "bait and switch" because she's said since the beginning of her relationship with Will she was an independent woman, but, as a married woman, she's wants something different. I fit in the high-earning, independent, professional young woman category I guess, who can pay all the bills, but guess what...after I marry, there is NO WAY I'm keeping my job and any job with less hrs I get will be a major pay cut. Because I don't want to do it all..work this job, take care of a household, and raise children. If I meet a guy as I am today, I don't think I'm doing a "bait and switch" if I tell him that I don't want to pay the majority of the bills after I marry. I have to pay all the bills now because it's just me lol I have no choice but to be independent. Jasmine had no choice but to be independent while single.

Well we know these job titles they give them are fuzzy. Regarding Keith, my friend in Philly told me in some places dialysis tech's get paid by the hour, and she knows some who make under 30k. So if Keith doesn't get a lot of hrs, he might 20k-30k, so it's believable Kristine makes much more. Apparently, Will isn't a financial analyst and his job is more akin to client relations. I was curious after the 50/50 discussion and seeing his home, so I went poking around the web.

I thought Pastor Cal said she did? Maybe I was half listening. I think Jasmine has given him plenty of chances to step up. I see a man that doesn't want to, and I doesn't see him changing. But we will see. The thing about Jasmine is I think she will walk if she's not getting what she needs. I don't see them stuck together and unhappy.