Maverick April 13, 2018 Share April 13, 2018 There was a throwaway line that vibe blasts take a lot of energy so they are the first power to go. Eventually Breacher will lose his abilities. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4234380
TwistedandBored April 14, 2018 Share April 14, 2018 This episode was beyond boring. I honestly cannot stand Ralph. I can't with Harry lately too. And, for the love of god let us see Iris follow through her plan to become a reporter. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4235213
sarthaz April 14, 2018 Share April 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Maverick said: There was a throwaway line that vibe blasts take a lot of energy so they are the first power to go. Eventually Breacher will lose his abilities. Gotcha. Thanks. I can barely focus on this show anymore, so I miss these things. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4235457
colorbars April 15, 2018 Share April 15, 2018 Ralph needs to die about 15 episodes at this point. What a anchor dragging this show down. DeVoe isn't that great, but I could deal with a lackluster seasonal villain if fucking Ralph wasn't on here, too. I think the only thing of importance in this episode was giving Marlize more and more reason to turn on DeVoe by the end, which I imagine she will do. And I guess whatever was going on with Harry at the end, but. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4237244
Trini April 15, 2018 Author Share April 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, colorbars said: I think the only thing of importance in this episode was giving Marlize more and more reason to turn on DeVoe by the end, which I imagine she will do. And I guess whatever was going on with Harry at the end, but. Plus, giving Cisco a reason to leave at the end of the season. ( <-- speculation, not spoiler) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4237266
colorbars April 16, 2018 Share April 16, 2018 22 hours ago, Trini said: Plus, giving Cisco a reason to leave at the end of the season. ( <-- speculation, not spoiler) I would have included that if I thought that was ever gonna happen, but I highly doubt it will, so it was kinda just a filler plot that will likely be resolved in the next couple episodes. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4240160
Trini April 16, 2018 Author Share April 16, 2018 I just think the same way that Caitlin and Barry left in the Season 3 finale, yet were right back on the team by the end of the Season 4 premiere, is how they'll handle Cisco leaving. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4240177
millennium April 21, 2018 Share April 21, 2018 Kevin Smith demonstrates how little regard he has for this episode -- and the series -- by inserting one of his Jay and Silent Bob bits from a hundred years ago. Aside from the shameless self-promotion there was nothing to distinguish his direction in this episode from that of anyone else. I wish people would stop enabling this guy. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4255942
Trini April 22, 2018 Author Share April 22, 2018 17 hours ago, millennium said: Kevin Smith demonstrates how little regard he has for this episode -- and the series -- by inserting one of his Jay and Silent Bob bits from a hundred years ago. Aside from the shameless self-promotion there was nothing to distinguish his direction in this episode from that of anyone else. I wish people would stop enabling this guy. Agreed with the enabling; but in this instance at least, it was apparently the writers idea: Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4257399
Trini May 13, 2018 Author Share May 13, 2018 I re-watched this; but only the B and C-plots with Breacher/Cisco and Marlize respectively. Those parts weren't so bad. The plot with Breacher and Cisco had heart and humor; and Marlize's sets up her eventual turn against DeVoe. Although there were still characters that had a lot less to do than others (Iris, Caitlin, Joe), I think the A-,B-, and C-plot structure worked well here to give everyone something to do. Not for every episode, but they could probably do this a little more often, if they insist on having all the regulars present all the time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68454-s04e17-null-and-annoyed/page/2/#findComment-4321811
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