Diana, Our Mother: Her Life & Legacy (ITV/HBO)

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19 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

I'm glad, at least, that William and Kate and their children don't appear to be subjected to the same level of harassment. 

I think William said in the HBO special, how he learned watching how it was with his mother, how to keep the press at a distance, and insisted on boundaries.

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20 hours ago, psychoticstate said:

Totally agree. 

I think the media, most especially after Diana and Charles separated and then divorced, forgot that Diana was a person.  She wasn't an object or a thing, she was a living, breathing person that they were pursuing to ridiculous lengths.   I cannot imagine what that must have been like.  Yes, she did court the media to a degree but no matter how much she may have encouraged them at times, or manipulated them, there is no excuse to spit at her, call her names, put a camera literally directly in front of her face or block her path, all in an attempt to force her into an outburst or tears so they could get that "magical" shot.  It's disgraceful and it's disgusting.  Made all the worse by the persons who were still attempting to get that damn shot while she was dying.  I pray that she had no idea that was happening.

I'm glad, at least, that William and Kate and their children don't appear to be subjected to the same level of harassment.

Just yesterday, or the day before, a French court awarded the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge €100,000 because they considered grainy photos taken of the Duchess, sunbathing topless while on vacation on private property (a French chalet owned by Viscount Linley, son of the late Princess Margaret & nephew of Queen Elizabeth II), & then published in some French publications, using long camera lenses, to be an invasion of privacy.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/05/europe/uk-royals-photo-controversy/index.html

So they've been harassed; it just apparently hasn't reached Princess Diana levels of harassment (yet).

Edited September 6, 2017 by BW Manilowe
To add a letter missing from a word.

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On 9/5/2017 at 11:06 AM, psychoticstate said:

FWIW, I will never not be emotional watching Diana's sons walk behind her funeral cortege.  Never. 

As I've noted, I am not remotely a "royal watcher," but on the night (my time) of Diana's funeral (London time), I had just come home and wasn't tired or in the mood to read, so with nothing else catching my attention on TV, I opted to watch the funeral.  I will forever remember two things from the trek through the streets: the "Mummy" card on the coffin and the angry look on Harry's face.  William seemed to be going someplace within himself (or hiding behind his bangs) to get through it, but Harry looked angry at the world.  As anyone in his position - having lost his mother at a young age and being forced to parade in front of the world - had every right to be.  I really felt for him, because I'm sure that's the head space I'd have been in under the circumstances.

I found it hopeful to learn in this documentary that Harry is so aware of the extent to which he shut down his feelings for a long time and still needs to fully deal with them.  I think he'll confront it all to its full extent in his own time; that he recognizes what he has and hasn't processed is a great sign. 

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13 hours ago, Bastet said:

I found it hopeful to learn in this documentary that Harry is so aware of the extent to which he shut down his feelings for a long time and still needs to fully deal with them.  I think he'll confront it all to its full extent in his own time; that he recognizes what he has and hasn't processed is a great sign. 

I watched the Diana:  7 Days special on NBC and it seems like Harry...much more than William...is super bitter about having to be made to grieve in public.  And I totally get that bitterness.  My mother just died, I am not here to make YOU feel better about it.  I find it disgusting what that country did to those boys after she died.  

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PBS aired Diana: Her Story. If you can watch it on a repeat or On Demand, I highly recommend it.

I watch every royal special that airs on television. I thoroughly enjoy reading about their lives, particularly the ones where some of the people who give insight have had real relationships with members of the royal family. I never get tired of hearing from Diana's former boss, the American lady who she worked for when she was a nanny.

I was bothered by Prince Harry's comment that it was his grandfather, Prince Phillip, who somewhat urged him to follow Diana's casket to the church. I don't think it was right for that adult to tell that child, "I will do it, will you?" So much for a child to bear. Having endured such a great loss at a young age, I can't imagine a child having the feeling of duty weigh heavy on them the way it weighed on Harry.

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I think Philip's hand was forced, as his first reaction to the idea of the boys walking was  rumored to be to tell them to tell Tony Blair to fuck off. So he may have been trying to say, "I'll be there with you (and so will your dad and your uncle)," to make it somewhat bearable?

 

It wasn't the Royal Family's idea to put Diana's sons on display; in fact, they did everything possible to shield them for as long as they could.