Season 7 Episodes Talk

[Old Dog]

I just watched this old episode aired here this afternoon in the UK. Back in the day I didn't rate this as a stand out episode but by gum, they made great episodes back then, even in Season 7 which is not usually well regarded. This one in particular made me realise just how much I miss Hotch - when he takes down the unsub in the boiler room the intensity was tangible. This was also the prank war episode which was enjoyable although I always think Reid's payback on Morgan was a bit lame.

I think I must pull out the DVDs and do a summer rewatch of Seasons 6 and 7.

Edited June 23, 2017 by Old Dog

[ReidGirl]

On 23/06/2017 at 2:50 PM, Old Dog said:

I just watched this old episode aired here this afternoon in the UK. Back in the day I didn't rate this as a stand out episode but by gum, they made great episodes back then, even in Season 7 which is not usually well regarded. This one in particular made me realise just how much I miss Hotch - when he takes down the unsub in the boiler room the intensity was tangible. This was also the prank war episode which was enjoyable although I always think Reid's payback on Morgan was a bit lame.

I think I must pull out the DVDs and do a summer rewatch of Seasons 6 and 7.

Yup the payback was sort of lame. And they messed up Reid's uni (its Caltech not MIT). 

I don't really enjoy this episode apart from Reid Morgan prank war as I am a big Reid Morgan bromance fan.

Best of luck with your season 6 and 7 rewatch. I personally can only rewatch first 4 seasons without omitting any episodes. From then onwards its comes down to 4-5 episodes per season. I feel like watching True Genius now.

[normasm]

I think anyone with higher degrees, PhDs to be specific, will probably tell you they go elsewhere other than their school of Baccalaureate for Masters and certainly doctorates.  Spencer would have gone to the best place for each specialty, whether it be MIT, Harvard, whatever. It ensures a breadth of education you can't get if you stay at one school. That's what my (PhD) professor told me long ago.

[ReidGirl]

12 hours ago, normasm said:

I think anyone with higher degrees, PhDs to be specific, will probably tell you they go elsewhere other than their school of Baccalaureate for Masters and certainly doctorates.  Spencer would have gone to the best place for each specialty, whether it be MIT, Harvard, whatever. It ensures a breadth of education you can't get if you stay at one school. That's what my (PhD) professor told me long ago.

Yup, you are right normasm.

[normasm]

Just want to clarify, my professor was the PhD, not I!

[ReidGirl]

17 minutes ago, normasm said:

Just want to clarify, my professor was the PhD, not I!

I was actually going to ask about your PhD but thought that would be personal question, so stopped myself :-)

[normasm]

Believe me, I'd be proud if I had one and wouldn't mind being asked, but I never finished my Master. =)

[JenJenBosco]

I was just thinking about the first episode of season 7 "It takes a Village" and there are a few things that bothered me.

-Why would they hire a NEW profiler if they needed a smaller team for budget cuts?  Wouldn't it have made more sense for JJ to be training, while Reid stays with the team?

-Why would Reid have taken a sabbatical, when ROSSI is the one who has a second job with writing his books and would benefit far more from a sabbatical?  Also, why was Reid still around (going to the gun range) if he was on sabbatical?

-Why would the FBI have sent HOTCH overseas when he was the leader and a single dad to his kid, when they could have sent MORGAN overseas since he was only second in command and is single with no kids?

-Also, after all of the budget issues, does it make sense that they would then continue on with SIX profilers instead of FIVE?  

-Also, REID didn't ask for his badge back, so why would they give it back?  Was that ever answered?

 

I don't know, but for some reason, I was thinking about these questions today.  Any thoughts?

[smoker]

On 14/7/2018 at 10:10 PM, JenJenBosco said:

I was just thinking about the first episode of season 7 "It takes a Village" and there are a few things that bothered me.

-Why would they hire a NEW profiler if they needed a smaller team for budget cuts?  Wouldn't it have made more sense for JJ to be training, while Reid stays with the team?

-Why would Reid have taken a sabbatical, when ROSSI is the one who has a second job with writing his books and would benefit far more from a sabbatical?  Also, why was Reid still around (going to the gun range) if he was on sabbatical?

-Why would the FBI have sent HOTCH overseas when he was the leader and a single dad to his kid, when they could have sent MORGAN overseas since he was only second in command and is single with no kids?

-Also, after all of the budget issues, does it make sense that they would then continue on with SIX profilers instead of FIVE?  

-Also, REID didn't ask for his badge back, so why would they give it back?  Was that ever answered?

 

I don't know, but for some reason, I was thinking about these questions today.  Any thoughts?

Sorry for any grammar mistake, it's being a while.

Season 6 finale was quite open to possible absences. I think Hotch's plot is related to TG's renewal negotiations. I remember it was closed when the premiere was already being filmed. Anyway, even if I do agree with you I found it interesting enough, I would like a bit more of that Hotch instead of the crap we got about "boot camp" JJ.

About the number of team members, I didn't get it either. I like episode 11x01 because they played with a smaller team and it worked wonderfully. I understand AJ and PB were coming back, one of those real life things we have to be understanding, but I wish it was done (written) differently, as always. I missed more leadership from Hotch here. Moreover, JJ was rude and mean and totally blinded by hubris. I didn't mind Reid being angry about it, but I disliked the childish attitude. It was a tactical decision, stop being so self-centered both of you!

[JenJenBosco]

4 minutes ago, smoker said:

Sorry for any grammar mistake, it's being a while.

Season 6 finale was quite open to possible absences. I think Hotch's plot is related to TG's renewal negotiations. I remember it was closed when the premiere was already being filmed. Anyway, even if I do agree with you I found it interesting enough, I would like a bit more of that Hotch instead of the crap we got about "boot camp" JJ.

About the number of team members, I didn't get it either. I like episode 11x01 because they played with a smaller team and it worked wonderfully. I understand AJ and PB were coming back, one of those real life things we have to be understanding, but I wish it was done (written) differently, as always. I missed more leadership from Hotch here. Moreover, JJ was rude and mean and totally blinded by hubris. I didn't mind Reid being angry about it, but I disliked the childish attitude. It was a tactical decision, stop being so self-centered both of you!

Ah, so it was more about the things happening outside of the show rather than in story reasons for doing what they did.  -> Do you ever hate when the outside effects the actual story?  Like do you wonder what would have happened if the outside was already set in stone?  I do.

Also, I loved 11x01 because of the fewer members, so I really, really, wanted less team members.

[smoker]

23 hours ago, JenJenBosco said:

Ah, so it was more about the things happening outside of the show rather than in story reasons for doing what they did.  -> Do you ever hate when the outside effects the actual story?  Like do you wonder what would have happened if the outside was already set in stone?  I do.

Also, I loved 11x01 because of the fewer members, so I really, really, wanted less team members.

I do, most of times. I mean, pregnancies or things like MGG's accident around season 5, I don't mind. Actors are human beings.

But keeping around Will because of AJC's pregnancy;  NEPOTISM hurting stories, characters (García, JJ, Rossi and even Reid lately), soundtrack!

I neither liked the awful writing around Hotch's absence when TG wasn't around because of his deal to work less days. Sometimes the character disappeared without any reason.

And I really did have a problem with their personal lives, they were pure emo" or pure crap.

hahahaha so sorry, the bottom line is: writing sucks more than usual when outside events happen.

Edited July 18, 2018 by smoker

[JenJenBosco]

25 minutes ago, smoker said:

I do, most of times. I mean, pregnancies or things like MGG's accident around season 5, I don't mind. Actors are human beings.

But keeping around Will because of AJC's pregnancy;  NEPOTISM hurting stories, characters (García, JJ, Rossi and even Reid lately), soundtrack!

I neither liked the awful writing around Hotch's absence when TG wasn't around because of his deal to work less days. Sometimes the character disappeared without any reason.

And I really did have a problem with their personal lives, they were pure emo" or pure crap.

hahahaha so sorry, the bottom line is: writing sucks more than usual when outside events happen.

Ahh, I see.  I just always wonder what would be different if it was a written story, where you could do whatever you wanted and didn't have to worry.

As to the bolded, what does that mean?  and I didn't realize that TG asked for less working days and that's why Hotch was around less, also, I wish that MGG didn't ask for a whole month off every year because the story for Reid could be better if they didn't have to write it in.  I guess it's things like that, that I wonder about.  Although, I understand that they are human, but yeah, outside factors tend to make the writing suck more.

[smoker]

1 hour ago, JenJenBosco said:

Ahh, I see.  I just always wonder what would be different if it was a written story, where you could do whatever you wanted and didn't have to worry.

As to the bolded, what does that mean?  and I didn't realize that TG asked for less working days and that's why Hotch was around less, also, I wish that MGG didn't ask for a whole month off every year because the story for Reid could be better if they didn't have to write it in.  I guess it's things like that, that I wonder about.  Although, I understand that they are human, but yeah, outside factors tend to make the writing suck more.

I am afraid we'lI never know ;P

"Nepotism hurting stories", I was talking about Messer, AJ and KV friendship. It's hurt characters. KV was allowed to change Garcia (I can't say what I think without being offensive) , AJ and Messer turned JJ in Alias 2.0 and JM has been allowed to change Rossi's personality from charming jerk to emo grandpa (vets and soapy plots included). Real life favoritism should stay away from scripts.

I figured that out after reading some interviews and statements. Season eleven was really careless in that matter.

A whole month is hard to swallow, but I guess it's better than MGG leaving :(

Edited July 19, 2018 by smoker

[JenJenBosco]

12 minutes ago, smoker said:

I am afraid we'lI never know ;P

I figured that out after reading some interviews and statements. Season eleven was really careless in that matter.

A whole month is hard to swallow, but I guess it's better than MGG leaving :(

Absolutely.  I couldn't continue without him, but it's hard having a few episodes where he's not there.  It just feels weird.

[smoker]

2 minutes ago, JenJenBosco said:

Absolutely.  I couldn't continue without him, but it's hard having a few episodes where he's not there.  It just feels weird.

sorry, I edited my previous comment 

I understand you, I drop the show after Hotch was written out

Edited July 19, 2018 by smoker

[JenJenBosco]

17 minutes ago, smoker said:

I am afraid we'lI never know ;P

"Nepotism hurting stories", I was talking about Messer, AJ and KV friendship. It's hurt characters. KV was allowed to change Garcia (I can't say what I think without being offensive) , AJ and Messer turned JJ in Alias 2.0 and JM has been allowed to change Rossi's personality from charming jerk to emo grandpa (vets and soapy plots included). Personal relationships and events should stay away from scripts.

I figured that out after reading some interviews and statements. Season eleven was really careless in that matter.

A whole month is hard to swallow, but I guess it's better than MGG leaving :(

Ahh, sorry I didn't realize that you quit after Hotch left, but also, I understand what you're saying about the outside friendships causing issues, that I have noticed, and it sucks.  Personal relationships of the Actors and Creators should not affect the show.  That does bother me.  That was something I think I mentioned in the Unpopular Opinions thread.  I wish that it was straight about the writing and that none of the actors were allowed to make changes to their characters.

[joanne3482]

I've never watched this show before and I was binge watching over the weekend. I got so confused yesterday afternoon when suddenly Prentiss and JJ are back and I THINK Kevin and Garcia had broken up (I assume that's why she was upset he was at the convention with another woman).  I even double checked, but I had watched the episode prior. Then, upon my second check, I discovered for whatever reason Paramount + bumped the season 7 finale to BEFORE the rest of season 7. I don't care about spoilers and already knew Prentiss came back but dang for a while I was just so surprised she came back with no commentary from her friends at all. 

[Danielg342]

13 hours ago, joanne3482 said:

I've never watched this show before and I was binge watching over the weekend. I got so confused yesterday afternoon when suddenly Prentiss and JJ are back and I THINK Kevin and Garcia had broken up (I assume that's why she was upset he was at the convention with another woman).  I even double checked, but I had watched the episode prior. Then, upon my second check, I discovered for whatever reason Paramount + bumped the season 7 finale to BEFORE the rest of season 7. I don't care about spoilers and already knew Prentiss came back but dang for a while I was just so surprised she came back with no commentary from her friends at all. 

I know there was a scene in "It Takes A Village" (Season 7, Episode 1) where Prentiss made her return, surprising the team by showing up unannounced in the war room. She gave Morgan a hug (and someone else, can't remember who) and there were smiles all around.

In "Proof", Reid confronts JJ about hiding the fact JJ knew all along that Prentiss' death was faked, being not too happy with her for doing so.

[joanne3482]

So I think I missed it, but did Garcia and Kevin break up because she said she doesn't want to get married? 

[Danielg342]

10 hours ago, joanne3482 said:

So I think I missed it, but did Garcia and Kevin break up because she said she doesn't want to get married? 

Yup. I hated that scene too. They had a great relationship for four seasons and they trashed it with a petty reason.

Now, the relationship was likely doomed when Nicholas Brendan got into legal trouble years later, but Lynch+Garcia deserved a better ending.

[idiotwaltz]

Rewatched True Genius and just wanted to say how much I liked everyone’s hair in this episode, especially Emily’s and JJ’s. I even like Reid’s. 

The episode was OK, one of the better ones of the season. I liked the scene between Reid and Prentiss and probably relate to it too much. Sometimes I wonder if I could/should have done more, or at least something else, with my life. I’m nowhere near a genius, just a disgruntled millennial with a job I happen to be very good at but loathe intensely. 

S7 episodes I tend to rewatch most: the premiere, the one with the Piano Man, this one, Foundation, Profiling 101 (for the hilariously awful flashbacks) and the last 5 minutes of the season finale. 

[MarylandGirl]

On 10/4/2021 at 10:51 PM, Danielg342 said:

Yup. I hated that scene too. They had a great relationship for four seasons and they trashed it with a petty reason.

Now, the relationship was likely doomed when Nicholas Brendan got into legal trouble years later, but Lynch+Garcia deserved a better ending.

I wasn't aware of his legal troubles, so looked him up on Wikipedia--yikes, that's a lot of trouble! And the last entry said he'd just violated his probation, so wondering if he's heading to prison?

On topic, I did hate how their relationship ended so abruptly as well.