Neighbours (AU) - General Discussion

[Nozycat]

16 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

It was really easy to miss

Yeah I saw what Holly was looking at but somehow didn't twig that it was the same guy, wasn't paying enough attention, but it's obvious now with him avoiding Holly.

[methodwriter85]

10 hours ago, Nozycat said:

Yeah I saw what Holly was looking at but somehow didn't twig that it was the same guy, wasn't paying enough attention, but it's obvious now with him avoiding Holly.

If this was Hollyoaks, I'd be afraid of him trying to murder Holly in a dark alley or threaten to drive her into the ocean in a car after kidnapping, but this show doesn't quite seem as big on the violence like Hollyoaks. I am assuming this is still going to be an intimate partner violence storyline, though. Maybe more about emotional manipulation instead of actual physical violence. Australian soaps tend to not be as dark as UK ones. 

Edited October 19, 2023 by methodwriter85

[TeeVee329]

I figured Holly's no-good ex would show up eventually, given they planted that seed, but I'd been predicting that Holly/Byron might be the pairing post-Mischa Barton and thought they'd save said ex to be a complication then.  But I kinda like the use of Ed(en) here, expanding the scope of the Mackenzie/Haz slow burn, building up Holly's place with the twenty-somethings, and giving us classic soap as Ed(en) woos Mackenzie for nefarious purposes while Holly juuust keeps missing seeing him.

I'm somewhat intrigued by the little mystery going on with Mischa Barton and the necklaces, as I suspect they're going to tie it to "Neighbours" history and I'm curious how.  I like her so much more in this mode versus being schmoopy with Byron.  But she was so dumb not just going right over and telling the maid it was her necklace versus having to dig around for it a whole day later and making Paul and Leo suspicous.

While I did roll my eyes at yet another "Toadie has to teach Terese to have fun!" subplot, 1) I felt like you could feel the real-life friendship between the actors come out as they were playing around and 2) I liked Terese being like, "Um, my brand is dresses that show off the front porch" lol.

Is the actor who plays Karl taking a break?  Him suddenly being added to the Harold train trip seemed like an out for another project or something.

Edited October 20, 2023 by TeeVee329

[Llywela]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Is the actor who plays Karl taking a break?  Him suddenly being added to the Harold train trip seemed like an out for another project or something.

Alan Fletcher has taken regular breaks from the show for years. In the past, these were usually written as trips to London to spend time with Holly, but since Holly lives with him now they had to find a new excuse for him to disappear for a bit!

(Funny how Holly and Byron both grew up in the UK, yet both have Australian accents...)

[methodwriter85]

I'm surprised they already did the Ed/Eden reveal. I thought it was going to be drawn out a lot longer. I also feel cheated that it wasn't a proper confrontation between Ed and Holly, but I will admit the visual of Holly running after Ed in the vineyard was pretty cool. Again, being an American soap fan, it's crazy to see just how much more budget non-American soaps seem to have compared to American.

Edited October 24, 2023 by methodwriter85

[TeeVee329]

Agreed, I was surprised they pulled the pin in the Ed(en) grenade so quickly.  I have to think there's more to come there, but with the blatant thefts, not sure how that'd work.  I had totally forgotten about Mackenzie's Hendrix ring being in her purse, which led to another nice bit of acting from Georgie Stone as well as cute cuddles with Trevor.

Relatedly, I'm really liking Billie as the benign spoiler as the show builds up to Haz and Mackenzie.  On a US soap, I'd worry she'll be villainized, but given this show is mostly about nice people being nice, I'm sure she'll get a graceful exit when the time comes.

Paul's "Yeah sure" reaction to Bryon babbling about him and Mischa Barton being in love was pretty funny.

"Neighbours" scholars - is there anyone in the show's history who would make sense as Mischa Barton's sister?

[TeeVee329]

Wow, an anthrax scare on Ramsey Street, I did not expect things to escalate so dramatically.  Nice touch too with Remi nicking her finger on the envelope as she opened it.  I find all the dramatics and dynamics between the Varga-Murphys and the Rodwells really interesting, first Cara and Andrew's prickly conversation about JJ's driving lessons, then Wendy's horror learning she's responsible for putting them in danger.

So there's the excuse to keep Mike out of Erinsborough for another few months.  I'm torn about whether it's a good idea to keep Jane romantically tethered to a mostly off-screen character, but I think it'd be near impossible to sell another romance for her, not after how lovely their reunion in the faux finale was.

Cute little "The O.C." nod with Mischa Barton picking up the photo of Paul's dad, a.k.a. Alan Dale.

Edited October 28, 2023 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

Great episode today!  Even though there was no way it was actually going to be anthrax, I think the show did a great job making the situation feel dangerous and tense.  The actress who plays Remi, in particular, was fantastic playing scared, but trying not to show just how scared she was.  And considering how annoying I found her early on, the character work they've been doing with Wendy has been wonderful.

And then, using that drama to immediately springboard to JJ spilling the beans about Andrew possibly being his father!  Given the various levels of prickliness between the adults, very curious to see how this unfolds from here.

But also!  The drama with Ed(en) really being an excuse for Holly to imprint on Haz and, by the looks of the previews, decide to get her Izzy on to snag him for herself was unexpected, but so perfect.  And I like that they set it up so Holly doesn't know Mackenzie is into Haz so we can watch her scheme without her knowingly stabbing her friend in the back.

Edited October 31, 2023 by TeeVee329

[Nozycat]

20 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I think the show did a great job making the situation feel dangerous and tense. 

 

20 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

And then, using that drama to immediately springboard to JJ spilling the beans about Andrew

Yeah I thought both stories were well done.

Wendy does my head in.

I hope Mackenzie and Haz get together, he's a good guy and she deserves it.

[methodwriter85]

On 10/31/2023 at 5:11 PM, Nozycat said:

Wendy does my head in.

Wendy must look like an absolute raging bitch to Cara and I love it. LOL The whole paternity reveal was well-done.

I am disappointed that they didn't do more with Ed/en because the actor was pretty cute but I like the set-up for Holly now being into Haz and unknowingly stabbing her friend in the back. 

 

Edited November 5, 2023 by methodwriter85

[Nozycat]

15 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

The whole paternity reveal was well-done.

Yeah I thought so too and I also thought now Neighbours is back for me.  Although I still find the focus on Reece to be a huge snoozefest, I find her so bland and have no interest in her sister whom I don't know.

[TeeVee329]

Another great episode today around the Rodwell/Varga-Murphy drama, and a nice job extending it out at least one more day with JJ taking off on Mike's bike just as the results came in.  I still think this is a misdirect, that they're going to tie JJ back to the Sinclairs via the American donor that's in the mix, but I guess we'll see.

And WHOA, the trailer for next week, a.k.a. Flashback Week, is intense:

Toadie justifiably demanding to know why he should believe a word Melanie says while she looks all disheveled and heartbroken gave me the chills.  Which is amazing because I've been vocal about finding Melanie annoying and not being into her and Toadie as a couple, but it's clear even from this clip that she's been Through It and I'm so curious to see what she has to say. 

And then Paul, at first you think he's threatening her, but when the camera angle changes, it's clear he's panicked and desperate, oh I can't wait.

[TeeVee329]

There were a lot of little touches I really liked in the last two episodes:

- Leo questioning Paul about whether he'd weaponize Terese's alcoholism against her the way he was alluding he was going to with Mischa Barton's alleged drug problem (literally as I was wondering the same thing lol). 

- Wendy slash the show not forgetting that, even though the JJ paternity mess took focus away from it, she messed up bad contacting Cara's shady former employers and that bringing over a chicken curry was a nice gesture, but didn't completely forgive that.

- Remi exploding at Cara that, if their positions were reversed, Cara would burn the house down and definitely not let it go after a handful of apologizes, which, even though we've only known Cara for a few weeks, is 100% true, she's a grudge holder, as we keep seeing in her interactions with Wendy.

- Jane absentmindedly tidying up her twentysomething son's house as she was nosing around about Mischa Barton, very mom-y.

- Nell commenting to JJ about her soapy family tree, and then noting that Hugo's lineage is even wackier (I cannot wait until Hugo is old enough so we can dig into that whole debacle, and hopefully get Madeleine West back as mommy Andrea and auntie Dee).

- Remi popping out to give Nell a medical once-over after they brought her home, very neighborly, very Ramsey Street.

[Nozycat]

13 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

There were a lot of little touches I really liked in the last two episodes:

Great list.  I feel like they are starting to settle in well now.  Looking forward to next week and finding out what has been going on with Mel plus the flashbacks.

[TeeVee329]

I was with Terese today - spit it out Mel lol!  There was a lot of time spent on Amy's baby daddy reveal, which I wasn't invested in at all, and I had already been spoiled about Mischa Barton and Bryon finding the photo of Holly and Ed(en) with Sister Sinclair so the only real reveal for me today was Melanie being a fugitive in the UK.  I'm guessing that's how she'll remain in Toadie's orbit, Nell or someone else on the street will advocate that he represent her in that matter.

Liked Melanie clocking Toadie and Terese's rings and their wedding portrait.  I wonder if she already knew they were married given she hasn't really kept in touch with anyone, I thought we'd start with her wanting to go to their old house, but being redirected.

Funny moment in the flashback with all the couples kissing and Callum turning to Bea all, "Eh?" and her being like, "No thank you!".  Heh, poor Cal.

I know she needs to be there to hear Holly's part of this, but it was also funny that Susan dropped Hugo off with the Varga-Murphys, who he barely knows, because she wasn't going to miss out on the hot goss.

Speaking of Holly taking her turn...between the unannounced return today and the previews, I think we're going to see Izzy tomorrow!!

[Nozycat]

21 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I was with Terese today - spit it out Mel lol!

Good grief, they are telling this in such a convoluted way - terrible writing imo.

[TeeVee329]

Damn, we only got Izzy in flashback/previously filmed footage form.  But even off-screen, my drama queen was still instigating soapy mess as apparently her antics with Mal and Shane pushed Holly deeper into her cocoon with Ed(en), which ended up putting them in Sister Sinclair's path, etc. 

I do think Mal was a little ridiculous blaming the drama his relationship with Izzy caused primarily on her.  My dude, you knew her for years, you knew her resume, you knew your parents would never be okay with it, so it's kinda on you that you let your hormones overrule your good sense.

Given we already know he's this Big Bad, there was some subtleness in the writing of Ed(en) today I liked, for example, him asking Holly and Sister Sinclair to hit their dads up for money with the same faux-casual phrasing.  You get why they'd be taken in by him.

I am curious what's going to happen when Mischa Barton catches up to Holly, since I don't think it's been spelled out for Holly yet that Kelly was really her boss' sister.

Terese's absolutely delighted and gleeful grin when Andrew came into the house, thinking Melanie was about to get some cuffs clapped on her, was 1) amazing and 2) just more proof that she belongs with Paul lol!

Edited November 15, 2023 by TeeVee329

[methodwriter85]

17 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Given we already know he's this Big Bad, there was some subtleness in the writing of Ed(en) today I liked, for example, him asking Holly and Sister Sinclair to hit their dads up for money with the same faux-casual phrasing.  You get why they'd be taken in by him.

He's a really good grifter. You can buy people being taken in by those big brown puppie dog eyes. Kind of a shame Costa D'Angelo is being used as a short-term Big Bad but I bet he'll get some offers. Dude definitely has the looks and charisma, yet in a distinctive, non cookie cutter way. And Therese's delighted grin when Andrew came in was great. Finally, I loved the continuing fallout over JJ's paternity. Sometimes kids that were conceived using sperm donors can be okay with never meeting the donor, and sometimes they need to know. I do think that regardless JJ will look to Andrew as a male role model despite him not being the actual father. 

[TeeVee329]

You know a story is badly paced when characters in-universe are loudly sighing and shaking their heads in frustration.  They sadly shed a lot of the momentum they had going into Flashback Week.  I mean, what did we learn today, Melanie's new business partner was David? 

And the flashback also featured the return of a character I did not miss - annoying, OTT Melanie.  Hopefully she stays in the past.

On the positive side, Toadie's eruption of anger when Melanie revealed that Hugo got injured because of her mess was well done by Ryan Moloney.  And they did a good job ramping up Ed(en)'s Big Bad-ness, with him remorselessly smiling when Hugo got hurt in Mel's stead, and later scuzzily propositioning Holly for one more night as she was dumping him for cause.

I'd been thinking it was too bad the Karl actor was gone this week given the Holly of it all so it was a nice surprise to see him briefly.

Let's hope Paul getting mixed in tomorrow ramps things back up.

Edited November 16, 2023 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

Well it's official - they whiffed Flashback Week.  So the big, devious, evil thing Paul did was pay off a blackmailer?  And for that he's getting more vitriol than Melanie, who dragged everyone into this and committed the accidental murder (except, of course, Sister Sinclair is obviously still alive since we never see her body)?  And he's getting loud static from people like David, who, if memory serves, basically killed someone himself pretty recently?  And it was so over the line he couldn't look Terese in the eye when he's definitely done worse things, and worse things to her?  What a letdown.

The one good moment was Paul and Holly stopping in their tracks in shock when Melanie finally dropped the bomb about Krista being Mischa Barton's sister.  Also Stefan Denis was good playing Paul's conflict and heartbreak leading up to him leaving Terese at the altar.

ETA...oh, but there is one danging thread I'm curious about...how did Sharon know who Ed(en) was?

Edited November 16, 2023 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

I find the emotional mess Toadie and Terese are now in pretty interesting, with all the tentative questions and too-quick reassurances, and that montage of their restless night was well done.

It remains ridiculous how much more vitriol Paul is getting over Melanie.  Mischa Barton is promising to tear Paul's entire empire down, but is totes good with Mel?  And David whining about how being around Paul makes him make bad decisions?  Pretty sure he wasn't at River Bend when you let that guy die, dude.

Cara's brief pop-in to return Nell and Hugo made me realize how much I missed the Varga-Murphys the last week or so.

Edited November 21, 2023 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

I really, really liked Holly - after finally finding out that Mackenzie had a crush on Haz - immediately going to check in with her and offering to step away because she doesn't want to be That Girl.

Calling it now - given the actress who plays her is a regular and Mischa Barton is seemingly done with her stint, something is going to happen between Krista and Byron.

I am a little confused about the ownership of Lassiters.  Do the Sinclairs own a piece of just the Erinsborough hotel or all of it?  Because if it's the former, the Chloe angle around Mischa Barton's exit doesn't make much sense since Chloe officially works for the Sydney chain.

Nice scenes with Cara and JJ about his donor's profile.

Shut up, David.

[Llywela]

20 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I am a little confused about the ownership of Lassiters.  Do the Sinclairs own a piece of just the Erinsborough hotel or all of it?  Because if it's the former, the Chloe angle around Mischa Barton's exit doesn't make much sense since Chloe officially works for the Sydney chain.

Lassiters worldwide has always been a bit confusing. As I understand it, Lassiters is an umbrella company with branches all over the world, but the Erinsborough hotel seems to be owned by Paul as an individual beneath that umbrella, so that he gets to trade off the Lassiters name while also retaining a degree of autonomy for his particular hotel. I'm not sure how much business sense that makes! The Sinclairs bought a share in the Erinsborough hotel (because of the Krista angle) rather than in the wider Lassiters chain. That's my understanding, anyway.

[TeeVee329]

Wait, why is Melanie out of jail?  Yes, Krista isn't dead, but Melanie did admit to assaulting her and leaving her for dead, that's not a crime?  And while Krista did say she was going to come clean about the drug thing back in the UK, isn't Mel still a fugitive, isn't that why this whole mess started in the first place, shouldn't she be locked up pending extradition?

Kinda weird Chloe met up on-screen with Nicollette first versus her brother.  She is looking gorgeous, btw, with those thigh-high boots.  Nic, meanwhile, looked too costume-y in that green coat or whatever.

[TeeVee329]

Okay, so charges are still pending against Mel.  I still would think, given she was literally a fugitive, there would be no bail, but whatever.

David continues to be soooooo annoying about Paul.  I actually think Aaron's closer to the mark, that David leapt at the opportunity to escape the shadow of his former identity as a doctor.   And I hope they dig into that more, that maybe David is latching so hard onto this idea that Paul makes him a worse person because he needs someone besides himself to blame for letting that dude at River Bend die.

And oh, Terese, you really needed a teenager to point out to you that you picked a guy who's a total 180 from Paul?

Nice to have Remi back, I missed her!

Edited November 29, 2023 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

Nicolette yesterday: All the damage and mayhem caused by the protest is totally my fault!

Nicolette today: What do you mean I'm being arrested for all the damage and mayhem caused by the protest!

[TeeVee329]

Haz was being a real pill today, he has been curdling for a while now into your classic sanctimonious TV "good guy".  And you just know he is going to end up messing up Mackenzie and Holly's friendship with his wishy-washy antics and that sucks.

Remi clawing at Cara's shoulder while Karl was droning on and on was so funny, this recurring bit of him crashing their family outings and just inviting himself to stay is very amusing.  Not sure where her finding out about David's medical malpractice past is going to go, though I wouldn't mind it knocking David off his high horse a bit re: Paul.

I was surprised to see Guy Pearce, I figured all future contact with Mike would be letters and off-screen phone calls.  I remain torn about whether letting this linger is a good idea or not.

What was with that flirty wave JJ gave Sadie?  Dude, didn't you think she was your half-sister like five minutes ago?

Edited December 13, 2023 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

I liked the little uses of history this week, with Terese reflecting back on what happened with Brad and Lauren as Melanie moved onto the street and Elly asking Susan about how her MS diagnosis impacted her relationship with Karl.

David seriously needs to get a grip, the way he badgered Aaron in today's episode was beyond.

[TeeVee329]

Yes, Holly was out of order inviting Mackenzie's ex to the party, but as far as schemes go, it was fairly benign.  And I really think Mackenzie and Haz are both being insensitive, their refusal to stop being obtuse about their feelings for each other is now causing other people pain.

But then, whoa, soapy danger cliffhanger with Holly falling into the pool and getting snagged underwater.  I am worried we're going to get Holly putting some spin on it that Mackenzie pushed her or something (as is, she did absolutely walk away without checking Holly was okay, which was a bit OOC) just to drive home that Mackenzie is The Good Girl and Holly is The Bad Girl.

I'm getting pretty tired of everyone dumping on Paul, especially when Melanie is fully forgiven and back in everyone's bosom.  I still prefer he be with Terese - I agreed with him when he said they're cut from the same cloth to Toadie - but I'm ready for him to have a fun fling, or have some kind of untainted victory.

I'd forgotten that Nicolette is keeping some other secret about why she wanted to flee Erinsborough, wonder how long they'll string that out for.

Edited December 27, 2023 by TeeVee329

[Llywela]

14 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Yes, Holly was out of order inviting Mackenzie's ex to the party, but as far as schemes go, it was fairly benign.  And I really think Mackenzie and Haz are both being insensitive, their refusal to stop being obtuse about their feelings for each other is now causing other people pain.

But then, whoa, soapy danger cliffhanger with Holly falling into the pool and getting snagged underwater.  I am worried we're going to get Holly putting some spin on it that Mackenzie pushed her or something (as is, she did absolutely walk away without checking Holly was okay, which was a bit OOC) just to drive home that Mackenzie is The Good Girl and Holly is The Bad Girl.

It was a very benign scheme, really. For all that Richie claimed Holly had told him Mack wanted to get back with him, she really didn't - we saw the message she sent, it just said that Mack would be pleased to see him, which she was.

If you see someone fall into water, you should never walk away without at least checking that they have resurfaced, even if you know they can swim. Mack was absolutely in the wrong there.

[TeeVee329]

I'm finding it very troubling that Haz appears to be most into Holly when she's a damsel in distress or has been victimized, given they first got together after the Eden mess and now he's locked back in after rescuing her from the pool. 

The actress who plays Holly was very good playing her residual shock after her ordeal.  And I thought Holly's position at the end made sense - she wants it to work with Haz, she does value her friendship with Mackenzie, and she's being honest laying it out that, for her, the status quo at the share house won't allow her to feel secure in either relationship.

Wow, they threw Elly's mom under the bus hard to pave the way for her not being at the wedding slash the Susan actress taking a break.  Have we heard whether people like Bea, Mark and Tyler, etc. have even been invited?

[Llywela]

7 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Wow, they threw Elly's mom under the bus hard to pave the way for her not being at the wedding slash the Susan actress taking a break.  Have we heard whether people like Bea, Mark and Tyler, etc. have even been invited?

To be fair, Elly's mum was always something of a flake, that's why both Elly and Bea ended up living with the Kennedys for extended periods when they were younger.

[TeeVee329]

I'm with Karl because I'm really finding it unsettling the way Holly is dimming her light to try and make Haz like her more, especially when it's juxtaposed with him being such a weirdo about finding Mackenzie's modeling photos.  It's interesting that Holly's insecurities are kind of an echo of Izzy's with Karl, but she's dealing with them in such a different way.  I also like that this story is allowing for a deeper dive into Holly and Karl's relationship, that you can tell she feels like this appendage in the Kennedy family, that he has trouble relating to her because of the distance there's been between them while she was growing up, and Holly's line about only existing because of a mistake Karl made was a doozy.

The Melanie fluffing really was in overdrive this week, with everyone falling all over themselves to say how she's awesome, perfection, an angel on Earth, blah blah blah.  Her woe-is-me routine when she's basically gotten off consequence-free for all her antics is also annoying.  So I was glad she got a bit crushed when Toadie told her he didn't buy her her business back.  I actually wish they'd lean more into the Krista angle, the two of them coming together as a chosen family, because I did think it was nice Krista bought her the van.

I'm not sure why they did this, but the show pivoting away from what it had been building with the Varga-Murphys and the Rodwells and their tangled dynamics was a mistake.  JJ's questions about his biological father, Cara's shady former employer, whatever Andrew found in their old friend's diary, that's all just over with?  And been replaced by JJ having a creepy crush on the older girl he thought was his half-sister five minutes ago?  Boo.

[TeeVee329]

Finally figured out who Nicolette's stalker Veronica reminds me of - Ashley Williams circa "How I Met Your Mother", with a touch more crazy eyes.  The backstory they built for this is a little wobbly, but the show is doing well with the ramp-up of her antics and the actress is quite good as a bunny boiler.  Her leaning in to verbally jab in Aaron's ear today about Nicolette's shenanigans when Isla was born (how she would know about that, though, I dunno) was a nice touch.

It continues to bum me out how little the Varga-Murphys are getting to do.  Remi reduced to being another talk-to for Krista?  Boo.  Though JJ and Dex scheming to get the best video games at the jumble sale was very teenage-ery.

Couldn't help noticing that Monday had Leo talking about being overprotective of Abigail and Wednesday had him ditching his daughter for Krista for at least two evening meals, and possibly a sleepover.

I can't imagine the show wants to break up the share house so not sure why they had Aaron bring up the idea of him and David buying their old house back.

When bad things happen to Melanie, I am Kim Fox...

[TeeVee329]

Feeling mixed about Cara's sister Chelsea so far.  A glamorous female schemer targeting Paul's heart and (presumably) wallet could be fun, but while it's giving Cara and Remi more to do, it is a bummer they are basically her backup singers while she's getting the story spotlight.  I do like that they did the UK/Aussie soap thing and established that Chelsea has grownup kids out there somewhere who could be brought in to cause more chaos for Auntie Cara down the line.

Also, why does everyone keep talking about the age difference between JJ and Sadie and not that he thought she was his half-sister for like a month!  Hopefully him taking his shot and her nicely turning him down is the end of it.

Haz (I'm guessing temporarily) giving up Trevor has done the intended job of making him more likeable after the Holly mess.

It's pretty clear to me that Nicolette accidentally attacked Sam at the end of today's episode.  Also, was there a reason I missed why Mike is still not back on Ramsey Street?

In other missing neighbours news, Susan's going to be gone for two more MONTHS?

Shut up, Woe Is Melanie.

[TeeVee329]

Wow...David and Aaron are sure happy and loved up and planning for the future right before

 

the big death the show is promoting.  My guess is that it's gonna be David, given we know the actor was planning to exit right before the initial cancelation, there's more of a ripple effect on the current canvas if it's him versus Aaron, and because it happening during a holiday getaway in the country brings things full circle to what happened at River Bend.

While the Trevor story did rehab Haz a bit, I have cooled on him and Mackenzie being together, their relationship is too much about her taking care of him.  Also notice that he was too chicken to tell Holly and let Mackenzie take the bullet by herself.  That said, their first kiss with the camera pulling away to take in the beautiful setting was well-done and soapy, and them trying to make house rules and tamp down the PDA when they clearly just wanna jump each other was kinda cute.

Relatedly, given Byron was concerned about Holly's reaction and then we had that scene of them commiserating about being surrounded by happy couples, I wonder if my early guess that they'd eventually get together is looping back around.  Also, Byron was pretty funny wandering around walking in on people when all he wanted was to eat his pie.

At least they called out that it's kinda ridiculous Krista is still strutting around in (faux?) leather pants and tops with weird boob windows when she's supposed to be several months preggers.  I do think

 

that baby is also not going to survive the big death week, though.

So, sooo tired of Melanie's dating travails.

Edited January 28 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

Even coming a mile away, David's death was effectively sad and well done, just textbook in what soaps can do when it comes to losing a character like this, this way.  Leo and Aaron's devastation when they came back and realized what David had done (Aaron in particular, usually leaned on to be smiley and shirtless, was heartbreaking when he let out that wail) and then the agony of having to carry his body back to the house, Jane falling apart when she finally got the news out, Paul desperately clutching David's photo at the end, it all hit the feels hard.

And then concurrently, another soap engine revved as Terese's first reaction was to immediately, immediately, rush to Paul's side and for that to be how she finds out about him and Chelsea.  Terese and Paul just have IT, that grand soap opera love connection that, for example, a pairing like Melanie and Toadie have never and will never have.

So Eden has to be the biggest Big Bad in "Neighbours" history, huh?  He used and manipulated Karl Kennedy's daughter, physically injured Toadie Rebecchi's child, and now is responsible for the death of Paul Robinson's son.  I almost wish the show had kept his reappearance a secret, had let Veronica stalking Nicolette to the house be a complete smokescreen for this twist.

I'll also say right now - I will absolutely hate it if the show does what I think it's going to do, which is reveal that Paul sicced Eden on Krista and thus is at fault for David's death.  We just got done with a story of everyone angrily turning on Paul, I don't want to see it again.

[Llywela]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Even coming a mile away, David's death was effectively sad and well done, just textbook in what soaps can do when it comes to losing a character like this, this way.  Leo and Aaron's devastation when they came back and realized what David had done (Aaron in particular, usually leaned on to be smiley and shirtless, was heartbreaking when he let out that wail) and then the agony of having to carry his body back to the house, Jane falling apart when she finally got the news out, Paul desperately clutching David's photo at the end, it all hit the feels hard.

It was a really powerful episode, that one.

Although...I can understand why they did it, but Leo and Aaron really shouldn't have moved the body since David was already dead and had died as the result of an altercation. There was no phone signal out in the woods, but Nicolette had signal at the house. At that point, there was no rush, help could have been called. No wonder the coroner got involved so quickly - suspicious death falling off a cliff during an altercation *and* the body being moved post-mortem. Dodgy stuff!

[TeeVee329]

Ah damn, so they did go with Paul siccing Eden on Krista (though I am wondering who bailed Eden out in the first place, because it seems like it wasn't Paul.  Could it have been Sharon?  We never did go back to what happened after she ran into him a while back).  I am dreading the fallout when this inevitably gets revealed, I dunno how Paul's going to come back from this one, and I am so tired of Paul being dragged and having no one.

Which is why I hated, when Terese pointed out just that, that Paul wasn't going to get a parade of sympathizers with casseroles, that Toadie had the nerve to pull all these jealous faces when she wanted to go check on him.  Dude, Paul's son is dead, and you hardly have room to talk given your overinvolvement with Melanie.  And then in the next episode being such an ass lecturing Andrew, an actual police officer, about how to handle a hostage situation and being soooo obnoxious about insisting on being the hero.

Also annoying, as always, Melanie.  I was really glad she finally got put on blast for all her passive-aggressive pining by Karl and then Terese.

I am glad Holly had some involvement in the hostage situation with Eden, but I do wish we were getting more of her perspective on what her ex has done.

Chelsea's triumphant look when she manipulated Cara into letting her stay was classic scheming soap bitch, nicely done.

Edited February 8 by TeeVee329

[TeeVee329]

I'm a few episodes behind, but I had to share how loathsome I'm finding Toadie and particularly Melanie lately.  Toadie's anger and jealousy about Terese being concerned for Paul (WHOSE SON JUST DIED!) is so hypocritical given his every response to Melanie since she's been back.  And Melanie is now not just pathetic as hell, but also super smug as well, I'm not sure how Terese has managed to resist slugging her in the face.  Thank goodness for Karl and Holly* both clocking her for her completely transparent actions.

* Holly has weirdly been completely disconnected from the twentysomethings and I don't like it.

[methodwriter85]

Okay, I don't trust Logan's tearful monologue at all. The actor is really good, though.