WendyCR72 August 25, 2014 Share August 25, 2014 I know SK/Beckett has a lot of devoted fans, but calling her Hepburnesque? NO. Only the Hepburns, be it Katharine and/or Audrey (no relation, naturally!), were Hepburnesque. No current actresses, IMO, come close. These talking heads need to stop, already! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-320425
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 (edited) Marlowe still comes over to me as an self important, arrogant arse and this article doesn't change that view. I get the same impression you do mad maverick with that line about knowing where they're going but the fans don't. Oh please. I have to say the show they say they're making doesn't bare much of a resemblance to the one I see on my screen each week. I thought his comments on writing the finale were amusing, since it definitely felt when I was watching it like something MilMar pooped out in about five minutes flat at the end of the season and sure enough that seems like exactly what they did. And if they made fixes to it I dread to think how much worse the first draft was if the final version I got see was their "fixed" effort. The Creaseys constant sucking up to Marlowe is embarrassing but it seems to work. Amann, too, sees the story requirement as evolving over the past couple of seasons, from the built-in conflict of Beckett not wanting Castle intruding on her life, to their actually getting together: “That has kind of required us all, in a good way, to tap into relationship stories that we’ve experienced, things in our own lives, our own marriages, our own friendships that we can draw from to play out what those personal conflicts and personal conversations can be between Castle and Beckett.” They can't tap very deep as I see precious little genuine mature relationship development with Castle and Beckett. It's either usually juvenile bickering/misunderstandings when they have disagreements or superficial discussions that don't even scratch the surface of a what I would expect to come from two mature adults at this stage of a relationship and given their history. Edited August 26, 2014 by verdana 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-320464
KaveDweller August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 - Why is Castle simple described as "egotistical" whilst Beckett is "gorgeous and Hepburnesque"? I actually don't think that is a great description of Beckett either. I don't mean that she isn't gorgeous, but Beckett is more than just some good-looking cop. She's supposed to be the smart serious detective to Castle's fun-living story teller. Changing it to just be about her looks makes it seem much more shallow than it should. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-320583
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 (edited) But it's about not sacrificing who those characters are in order to fulfill a story element that we're excited about." Couldn't agree more, TPW. So why do you guys keep doing it?! Most recently, FBFW. Heh. That's exactly what I thought! Do they not realise? Obviously not. Does that mean they can't write C/B banter without a themed murder? ;) Even then, they still often can't. I got that too and yeah they still can't do it, that's one of the complaints I often see being mentioned - there's no genuinely good Castle and Beckett style banter any more. But may be the writers believe there is? I just don't see it. Why is Castle simple described as "egotistical" whilst Beckett is "gorgeous and Hepburnesque"? Poor Castle no longer has an ego, it's been crushed, he's now more kicked puppy than egotistical writer so I don't know where they get that from. Neither description is that wonderful TBH. Edited August 26, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-320643
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 As for Molly's tweet that's a hoot given that they never talk. However, I wonder if any hopes I might have that this could change in S7 have been scuppered by this response from Molly to a fan? Sandra @san_da_lias 5h@MollyQuinn93 Kate has been dating her dad for 3 years now. I think it's time for them to start comunicating. Hopefully this season? Molly C. Quinn @MollyQuinn93@san_da_lias College kids are busy and very much in their own worlds,plus Alexis is…a little hot headed???: /There, I said it.: ) Alexis never appears to be busy at college though, she was either playing house with her irritating boyfriend, saving criminals from death row or playing detective oh and getting kidnapped every now and again. And is she really hot headed? Last season she came over as mostly brattish and irritating. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-320785
KaveDweller August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 And is she really hot headed? Last season she came over as mostly brattish and irritating. I would describe Kate as hot headed more than Alexis. Alexis is passive aggressive. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-320819
Samantha84 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 After reading that article I'm convinced that I'm watching the wrong show. B/c the show their talking about isn't Castle that comes on Monday nights at 10. Nothing they said translate to screen. Also? Marlowe is good b/c he does something I can't do: write. But lets not be cute .. Marlowe isn't the best or close to the best. I know he's Dara and Chad's boss but for crying out loud! Heck Dara and Chad have written better episodes together than Marlowe have .. the last 2 MilMar episodes were bad .. and I'm being nice! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321003
KaveDweller August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I wouldn't say nothing they said shows up on screen, just that it doesn't translate as well as they think it does. But this is a puff piece, so of course that's what it's going to do. Their amusement at fans being upset kind bugs me though. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321214
Samantha84 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Agree with these two people via twitter: After reading article, still don't think they understand what a lot of fans main problems with finale were. Agreed. Not only do I think they don’t get it, but it’s also clear that there’s a lot of ego and not giving a shit involved. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321404
Elysium1973 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 That article was nothing short of ridiculous. Hacklowe "Beautiful Minds" the writing/production board? Oh please. And TPW is thankful that AWM tells him yes or no and gives him permission to write certain stories? I'm sure TPW is just waiting for this nightmare to end so he can EP his own show and forget this mess ever existed. If it wasn't for Winter there would basically be no watchable episodes from the last two seasons. And does it gross anyone else out to envision Terri and Andy as Beckett and Castle? Because I really don't want to hear about them being handcuffed and their sexy coy glances. Next. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321536
femmefan1946 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I don't think "Hepburnesque" is a comment on her looks. It's about her intelligence and class. Both Katherine and Audrey were classy women, but in her movie roles, Audrey Hepburn was rarely particularly intelligent. On the other hand, all three women are/were brunette, beautiful and very very thin. So looks, yes. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321590
turnitwayup August 26, 2014 Author Share August 26, 2014 (edited) The Creaseys constant sucking up to Marlowe is embarrassing but it seems to work. Yeah I don't get it. They worked on a lesser Sorkin show and good Fuller show so I wonder if this sucking up to their current boss is just a thing they do. I kinda wanted to rewatch the eps they written on those show but netflix instant don't have them. So The Final Frontier was on TNT between the new Dallas eps and I kinda wished that Kate Sargeant got to write more eps. We had banter, Castle checking out Beckett and being amused about her being a Nebula 9 mega fan, Perlmutter snark and Castle wasn't dressed as badly as he usually is. I'm sure TPW is just waiting for this nightmare to end so he can EP his own show and forget this mess ever existed. I like to see what kind a show he would create. I notice JAG was rerunning on TV Guide channel so now I'm curious about Terence's acting skills since he guest started on 2 eps. The acknowledgments is humorous and sweet considering the wtf finale tho I agree that 'my muse, my inspiration, my life' should've been the dedication. I did read 'my life' as 'my wife" at first lol. Edited August 26, 2014 by turnitwayup Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321670
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't say nothing they said shows up on screen, just that it doesn't translate as well as they think it does. But this is a puff piece, so of course that's what it's going to do. Their amusement at fans being upset kind bugs me though. Certainly gets lost in translation with me increasingly. Sometimes I think I know what they're meant to be going for but it usually misses the mark and it's most annoying when they come so close but then slip up at the last second with a line or something that ruins it. Yeah that's what bugged me the most too actually out of all of it, ties in with Samantha's post above and that tweeted comment. They seem to almost get off on the fact that fans get annoyed/upset by their writing and they really don't seem to care either when this ends up being the result. As I writer I'd want fans to be enthusiastic, excited and generally happy with my work even if it's not necessarily always going to be a positive story - not left feeling bitter, disappointed, foolish and angry. But that's what steady ratings do for you plus listening to the likes of the Creaseys calling you a "genius" with all the rest of the general sucking up they must get each day from those wanting to stay in work not to mention the selective tweets from fans they probably read. As for the fake storyboard with the line about C&B being in the bedroom and a kiss, who are they trying to kid with that? Most fans by now surely know nothing remotely sexual or romantic happens in their bedroom and if we do by some miracle get a kiss it will probably be interrupted by Alexis since she's skulking around the loft now. Edited August 26, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321813
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Verdana, I think you may get your wish of a college storyline involving Alexis since they've filmed at a school for 704 and MQ had a late call time at night. They look to be giving Alexis some attention in the early part of the season again. Let's hope they do better this time around. Me too, the "attention" she got last season was not the kind I was looking for, I want to enjoy seeing Alexis not fervently wish she'd go away on a permanent vacation. Since she's at college supposedly studying....something it might be nice to see her in that environment for a change. I hope they don't have a murder there and its yet another friend of hers we've never seen before involved that would be eye roll worthy. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-321865
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 (edited) Writer's are full of ego by nature. As is anyone in show business. But imagine the other side of it for a second. You put all your time into writing a show and pretty much people take to twitter, facebook and other outlets to tell you, you are doing your job wrong and you don't deserve it because you aren't writing what THEY want to see. I can't imagine it would be fun for Marlowe or Molly to show up at any of our places of business and tell us we should be doing it different. Tough, it's a hard world out there, especially in Hollywood. They have one job to do, act or write and it's not done simply for their own personal gratification. I'm sure by this stage they must know what the down side is and if they don't like the brickbats that go with the bouquets of obsequious tweeting, freebies and publicity then may be they need to think about doing something else which means they don't come into any contact with the general public and have to fear receiving critical comments for the work they produce. But they won't do that because they no doubt accept that it's part and parcel of the job and is making them wealthy and if they're successful increasing their profile within the industry so boosting their ego in the process. Fans have every right to voice their opinion on the show since it's being made for public consumption and like I said before it's not some charity they're running here out of the goodness of their own hearts. That's not to say I agree with fans sending abusive tweets or messages to any of the cast or crew which is totally unacceptable and embarrassing. You can be polite but still get your point across although I think twitter especially is a lousy way to communicate your opinions on anything in any case. As for people turning up to my place of business to moan and complain, they don't need to. If I screw up my boss will soon let me know or I will get a phone call from the client directly so there's usually no escaping crappy working practices and being put under pressure by people thinking you're not doing the job correctly in the way THEY want it done. Here is the second page of the acknowledgements of Raging Heat in case any one is interested, just click to enlarge. Edited August 26, 2014 by verdana 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323538
KaveDweller August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Yeah I don't get it. They worked on a lesser Sorkin show and good Fuller show so I wonder if this sucking up to their current boss is just a thing they do. If you were asked to publicly comment on your boss, what would you say? I remember in college we had training about finding a job, and we were told to never even trash a former boss, because than a potential employer would know you might one day trash them. Sometimes I think I know what they're meant to be going for but it usually misses the mark and it's most annoying when they come so close but then slip up at the last second with a line or something that ruins it. Yeah, I agree. I usually like where they are going, but see ways they could have made it much better with just a tiny change. You put all your time into writing a show and pretty much people take to twitter, facebook and other outlets to tell you, you are doing your job wrong and you don't deserve it because you aren't writing what THEY want to see. My millions of dollars might make up for it. I mean, I have no idea how much Marlowe makes, but I'm assuming it's more than me. Honestly though, I'd probably have to avoid twitter like crazy if I was a writer/actor. I would get an assistant to read it and rephrase anything important in nicer/more constructive comments. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323595
McManda August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 Can there be miscommunication when there has been an absence of communication? ;) That was my first thought too. There can absolutely be miscommunication caused by the absence of communication. In fact, I'd say that's the biggest cause of miscommunication, because people are either in subtext or because there is plain no talking about it. I'd for sure describe Alexis and Beckett's relationship as mis/uncommunicative over tense. Alexis handles the absence of communication like a teen - she's rather impulsive and almost bratty about it. Beckett handles it like an adult - she feels it out and is less quick to react to it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323704
WendyCR72 August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 I get people are frustrated with the final product the show is putting out as of late, but the tone is becoming just this side of hostile during the debate, so I ask all of you to remember EVERYONE has a point of view here. We may not agree, we have the right to do that or whatever. But let's keep it civil here. At this point, the show is what it is, and the frustration to not wish it so won't change the outcome - or people's minds. Carry on. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323910
verdana August 26, 2014 Share August 26, 2014 If you were asked to publicly comment on your boss, what would you say? I remember in college we had training about finding a job, and we were told to never even trash a former boss, because than a potential employer would know you might one day trash them. My millions of dollars might make up for it. I mean, I have no idea how much Marlowe makes, but I'm assuming it's more than me. Honestly though, I'd probably have to avoid twitter like crazy if I was a writer/actor. I would get an assistant to read it and rephrase anything important in nicer/more constructive comments. I think it's a safe bet he's earning big bucks that surely softens the blow more than somewhat. I have no idea why any of these people want to be on twitter, the hassle just doesn't seem worth it to me. What the hell were these people doing before it existed? I don't get the attraction I have to admit, based on what I keep seeing the negatives seem to outweigh the positives. I think we had the same training, we were told never take issue with a previous employer when you go for a new job, doesn't matter what's happened, it's unprofessional and could cost you. There's also that saying "be nice to people on your way up, you’ll meet them on your way down." However, I find the sheer scale of the sucking up is embarrassing to witness in the case of the Creaseys, you can be complimentary and grateful without going that overboard. I've lost count of the number of times they've called Marlowe a genius and now he's been described like some kind of writing savant. Those are the kind of comments I would expect from certain hyperventilating fans not professional writers in their position, they are arse licking like crazy and not even trying to be subtle about it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323940
KaveDweller August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 However, I find the sheer scale of the sucking up is embarrassing to witness in the case of the Creaseys, you can be complimentary and grateful without going that overboard. I've lost count of the number of times they've called Marlowe a genius and now he's been described like some kind of writing savant. I guess I must have missed some interviews, because I haven't seen that many instances of it. I don't follow them on Twitter is that where it's happening? Which episodes did the Creaseys write last year? The one with the Beckett not liking the lion picture and what else? Did either of them do an individual episode? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323979
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) Is there any celebrity now who hasn't done the ice bucket challenge? Retweeted by Nathan Fillionalan tudyk @alan_tudyk · Aug 25yep. me too. X That must be a killer if you've got sensitive teeth. Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-323982
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) Twitter, I don't think they would have done many interviews prior to this being relatively new writers. I thought the general idea was they would always write together and being a married couple it would be good for the show and the Castle and Beckett dynamic. Not that other people can't write good episodes that showcase the relationship of course but it should add an extra dimension to the writing. Just like Terri and Marlowe are usually better together than when writing alone, although that was disproved big time in #6.23. They've done A Murder Is Forever and Smells Like Teen Spirit so far, a lot of people seem to like both episodes a lot but I really didn't enjoy their first outing with the huge diamond (and yeah I think that might have been the one with the Linus the lion discussion in it) it wasn't terrible but it wasn't that great either but SLTS reminded me quite a bit of the old Castle episodes, they got that one right. I would say the Creaseys as a couple are better than MilMar given current form on writing for Castle, I hope they hit the mark again with #7.03. Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324066
McManda August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 Hahahaha, I love Alan Tudyk. Not quite as great as Patrick Stewart's ice bucket challenge video, but pretty good. Did Nathan ever do it again? He got re-challenged by Neil Patrick Harris. (Is it a thing to do it again? Even if it's not, I'd like to see him respond somehow, given that Neil challenged "his nemesis, Nathan Fillion".) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324072
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) Jim Jonas @goatmilkjim · 5h FYI, @NathanFillion talks to children with interest and caring. pic.twitter.com/EioBOz0nxV I don't think this is a recent picture, I'm sure I saw Stana in that coat posing with fans last season when she was filming Limelight may be? I seem to recall her wearing a red coat. The guy who posted it has eight kids, ouch! That must put a dent in his finances. 48 More ALS Ice Bucket Celebrity Challenges! Patrick Stewart, Jennifer Aniston, and More at Parade. Patrick Stewart's was the best one, cool and classy just like the man himself. Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324152
KaveDweller August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 I'm sure I saw Stana in that coat posing with fans last season when she was filming Limelight may be? I seem to recall her wearing a red coat. She wore that coat in S5 too, I think in Significant Others. But it definitely doesn't look recent, her hair is too long. Twitter, I don't think they would have done many interviews prior to this being relatively new writers. In that case I'm glad I don't follow them. Maybe Marlowe is the kind of guy that needs to hear things like that? I did love Smells Like Teen Spirit, it was much better than the Murder is Forever episode. But I think most of the writers have some good episodes and some bad ones, so we'll have to see more from the Creaseys to know which they have more of. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324276
McManda August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 I don't think this is a recent picture, I'm sure I saw Stana in that coat posing with fans last season when she was filming Limelight may be? I seem to recall her wearing a red coat. The guy who posted it has eight kids, ouch! That must put a dent in his finances. It's not recent. It's from a year or so ago. I've seen those photos before, but I can't remember why the guy and his kids were on set. A fundraiser, maybe? I vaguely recall it was a charity thing, but I could be making that up. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324280
FlickerToAFlame August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 This is fantastic: @Jon_Huertas: So @Stana_Katic @seamusdever & I did our own #ALSICEBUCKETCHALLENGE see it here: #KISSMYALS @carbajalphoto http://t.co/cn1k1aFON9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324401
KaveDweller August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 That is awesome. I actually didn't think Stana would do it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324512
turnitwayup August 27, 2014 Author Share August 27, 2014 That was great ice bucket vid. Loling that Seamus got 3 of those 5 gallon buckets poured on him. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324802
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) I never thought she would do it either. That was a funny, poor Seamus he got the worst of it. And even after running around and having iced water tipped all over her, Stana still looks amazing, how annoying. Heh. Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-324983
S55 August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 It's not recent. It's from a year or so ago. I've seen those photos before, but I can't remember why the guy and his kids were on set. A fundraiser, maybe? I vaguely recall it was a charity thing, but I could be making that up. This is a new picture from November 2012. This family was on the Paramount lot to tape an episode of some talk show that tapes there about their company (Goat Milk Stuff) the same day Castle was filming Significant Others (5x10) there. I guess they ran into Nathan and Stana while roaming around the lot and I think might have even been fans of the show. There's an adorable picture from this encounter too where Stana is holding one of the little girls and folks joked the kid could be Castle & Beckett's because she resembled them so much. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-325341
S55 August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 7x01-7x04 Unconfirmed Episode Titles 7x01 - Driven (Season Premiere title confirmed)7x02 - Montreal7x03 - Clear and Present Danger (Title confirmed)7x04 - Child's Play I guess Castle & Alexis really do go to Canada in 7x02? I seem to remember a car with a Canadian license plate on it from a fan report on location. And with 7x04 reportedly titled "Child's Play," maybe that ep is the toy mogul murder now? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-325390
madmaverick August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 I would describe Kate as hot headed more than Alexis. Alexis is passive aggressive. I would describe Alexis as more passive aggressive than hot headed, and it's an annoying trait. She never was what I would describe as hot headed when the show began. I miss when she was a calming influence on Castle and family. I liked when she was like an old soul in a young body. Nowadays, she's just another brattish, ungrateful I know best teenager in a teenager's body. ;) They took away what made her interesting and different... but not surprised, they've done that a lot with the other characters too. Gone in the wrong direction not the right one. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-325509
madmaverick August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 I never thought she would do it either. That was a funny, poor Seamus he got the worst of it. And even after running around and having iced water tipped all over her, Stana still looks amazing, how annoying. Heh. She's got great waterproof makeup heh. That video was nicely done. Quite similar to the one done by the Agents of SHIELD actors who also filmed between the trailers. Loved the #kissmyals hashtag and apparently it didn't originate from them but from the guy whom they said inspired them in the video. His video is really worth a look (you have to watch till the end): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h07OT8p8Oik&feature=youtu.be Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-325524
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) If correct, that clears up the confusion the as to where Alexis and Castle end up in #7.02 - at least for part of the episode. Nathan also tweeted this the other day which might possibly tie in with what they're filming at the moment (#7.04) given the title. Nathan Fillion @NathanFillion · 20hYou can tell if a person is an asshole by the way they talk to children. Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-325684
Samantha84 August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 Alexis as more passive aggressive than hot headed, and it's an annoying trait. She never was what I would describe as hot headed when the show began. I miss when she was a calming influence on Castle and family. I liked when she was like an old soul in a young body. Nowadays, she's just another brattish, ungrateful I know best teenager in a teenager's body. ;) They took away what made her interesting and different. All of this and especially the bold part. That's exactly what it is .. Alexis wasn't this way when the show started and I understand that a character has to grow, as in real life, one is not the carbon copy of their young teenage self. I get that. Here's where I have the problem w. the evolution [if you want to call it that] of Alexis Castle: they've reversed the character development. She starts off as this mature, grounded, respectful teenage girl, who was way wise beyond her years, perhaps more than her father. The whole catch was Alexis mothered her father and her father, fathered his mother. Now, as said above, Alexis Castle is the typical bratty ass television teenager. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-326300
madmaverick August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) Not sure if this is the right place to comment, but I went and watched Forever, the show ABC is supposedly grooming to replace Castle (soon or eventually) and hoping that Castle viewers will like. It's a show revolving around a medical examiner played by Vaughn (I mean, Ioan Gruffuld) and *spoiler alert*, there's no mention of lividity! Heh. But in other aspects, I found a lot of similarities to Castle, down to the same NYC inserts Castle uses and a very similar precinct set. The male lead's a different creature than Castle (though he helps solve crimes with his genius insights of course), but the female detective lead is pretty much mini Beckett. Thers's Tragic Past signposted a mile away, there's rings on a necklace, there's an Interrogation Scene between the leads, there's a coffee mention, there's Mythology of course, and there's even a "ya coming?". ;) Did the writer watch an episode or two of Castle or what? There's a Tech Girl and an Authority Figure from an ethnic minority as is usually the case in a procedural. ;) So for better or for worse, very familiar elements to viewers of crime procedurals. Verdict: It's watchable, but definitely nothing exceptional or original here. A bit of a Castle clone, but probably Elementary + New Amsterdam is a more accurate description for those who've watched those shows. Nothing really drew me in, nothing hugely put me off either. The male/female chemistry was passable but nothing like the sparks I got from the Castle pilot. Then again this show doesn't seem to be pushing the WT/WT angle straight away, though there's no doubt it'll end up there. ;) I most likely won't be watching again because I'm not interested in another unoriginal procedural show, and the chemistry isn't off the charts compelling. But it's the sort of show that might attract Castle viewers in general. Edited August 27, 2014 by madmaverick Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-326599
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) Here's where I have the problem w. the evolution [if you want to call it that] of Alexis Castle: they've reversed the character development. She starts off as this mature, grounded, respectful teenage girl, who was way wise beyond her years, perhaps more than her father. The whole catch was Alexis mothered her father and her father, fathered his mother. Now, as said above, Alexis Castle is the typical bratty ass television teenager. I'm totally with you on this, she always came across to me as an old head on young shoulders and I could 100% identify with the wonderful dynamic between Alexis and Castle and the start of a friendship with Beckett, it was so refreshing. Why the hell did they screw that up? The opportunities were there to develop her character further and what's more she could have served as the perfect conduit to explore the Castle family dynamic and bring Beckett slowly into the fold, enabling the writers to flesh out the characters in such an obviously natural way. But instead they do everything in their power to seemingly avoid whenever possible any interaction that could prove insightful and worse turn her into at tired old cliche of typical teenage trouble and strife. Now I just want her off my screen she's become so annoying. Thanks mad maverick for your insight on Forever, I'm sorry but I can't watch Ioan Gruffudd now without thinking about the appalling Squab, surely one of the worst Castle episodes ever. I guess it makes sense to think about filling the Castle slot with something a little Castleish. Sounds like they're trying to tick all the boxes but they don't have Stana and Nathan - and that's a problem. ABC must be desperate by now for one of their new shows to succeed. Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-326697
McManda August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 I love that they all did the ALS challenge together. It's fun to see the new spins that all these different celebrities come up with to pouring a bucket of water on themselves. I wish it felt a little more impromptu and less like they practiced, but I'll take what I get. It's still adorable. I think my favorite part is Seamus's look after Jon throws the last bucket of water on him. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-326789
KaveDweller August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 I hope Montreal being the title of episode 2 doesn't mean Castle and Alexis are in Canada for most of the episode. Unless Beckett ends up there with them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-326836
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 (edited) Looks like Terri is writing 7.06, I find her episodes can be a bit hit or miss for me. Last one on her own was the baby episode which was one of the better episodes in what was a rather disappointing season, I'll ignore the recent ones co-written with her hubby which I thought were awful (6.23 and the time traveller one). Molly C. Quinn @MollyQuinn93 · 2hJust read 706.Prediction: Will be new fan favorite.@TerriEdda you have outdone even yourself!#Bravo#NoDoubt Edited August 27, 2014 by verdana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-326943
verdana August 27, 2014 Share August 27, 2014 Exchange between a fan and the guy who puts together the Castle promos. Shawn Adams @shawn310 · Aug 26Settling in for a viewing of episode 701 from everyone's favorite crime show! deb franzoni @debfranzoni Aug 26@shawn310 @FredBC77 ...and one hour later....what do you think???? #CastleSeason7 Shawn Adams @shawn310 · 6h@debfranzoni @FredBC77 I actually loved it- And I think this season is going to be even better than 6! I don't think that would be too hard. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-327001
verdana August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 Andrew Bikichky @AndrewBikichky · 8h Sean props showing me the cleared/unloaded handguns actors will use during scene. Safety requirement #Castle Ep704 https://twitter.com/AndrewBikichky/status/504775367073071104 Good to see they show due care and attention. I still can't get over that poor young girl accidentally shooting her gun instructor with an automatic weapon. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328132
madmaverick August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 (edited) Me either, verdana, me either. What were they thinking in letting a 9 year old shoot an automatic machine gun?! Makes no sense in the world I live in. Sorry, but sometimes I really don't understand America (and her relationship with guns). ETA: verdana, sadly I don't think any tragedy is going to change a thing. They haven't before. Edited August 28, 2014 by madmaverick Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328159
cappuccino August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 http://instagram.com/p/sOSOzflGJR/ RedCarpetLuke ---- ehm no not really ! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328218
S55 August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 (edited) New info on episode titles. Ep701: DrivenEp702: MontrealEp703: Clear and Present DangerEp704: Child's PlayEp705: Time Of Our Lives Though the same person who posted this info also admits the title for 7.05 isn't confirmed. Source New info on writers/directors. Ep1: Amann/BowmanEp2: AWM/RileyEp3: Creaseys/WoodsEp4: Hanning/BowmanEp5: Adler/RoeEp6: Terri/Holahan Source Also, some BTS pics from yesterday. Edited August 28, 2014 by S55 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328463
verdana August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 (edited) That video they released of the incident chilled my blood. Over here the closest she'd get to a gun is seeing one on TV. But then I come from a country with such a different mindset so it's difficult to get my head around that incident and understand how normal it is to let people own and carry guns. I hope it means they tighten up their procedures in future with children when they're on firing ranges at least. Edited August 28, 2014 by verdana 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328691
Nadine August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 The 7.05 title is actually 7.06 by Teri but because it's filming first the filming notices have 705 listed for it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328713
madmaverick August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 (edited) http://instagram.com/p/sOSOzflGJR/ RedCarpetLuke ---- ehm no not really ! Oh, no. Just no. Again! It seems unusual for them to film out of order, no? Time of our lives? Now I've got the song in my head. Dirty Dancing homage? Could this even be the wedding episode? Hopefully this will be a romantic, light-hearted episode from TM. May even be better that she's writing without AM. Where's TPW? I'm surprised he hasn't been assigned one of the first episodes. Stana's wearing a big ring on her finger here but I don't think it's a wedding band? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=802966453079892&set=a.433950273314847.93127.100000996352112&type=1&theater Edited August 28, 2014 by madmaverick Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328873
Nadine August 28, 2014 Share August 28, 2014 They've filmed out of order before when they need to for guest actor availability / venues, etc. That ring is on the makeup artist's hand not Stana's hand. Hopefully it means TPW will be writing a sweeps episode instead if TEM is writing the first sweeps episode. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2007-spoilers-speculation-all-things-media/page/23/#findComment-328921
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