S10.E09: No Love Lost

[DanaK]

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01/08/2025 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Wednesday) : The team fights to save the life of one of their own. Frost and Abrams butt heads with their patient. Dr. Charles and Dr. Reese continue to clash over a patient, dredging up unresolved issues between them

 

[MediaZone4K]

Great episode!

Doctor archer came in clutch tonight! I knew Goodwin wouldn't die but it was still riveting to watch.

I liked the little girl who challenged the mean arrogant doctor. We got to see his humanity at the end with him braiding her hair to avoid shaving her head. Has he ever been diagnosed with a form of social disorder? I kept yelling at the TV if she shaves her head they make great lace front wigs these days not like back in the day.

Are you all happy to have the psyc doctor back? 

 

[Diana Berry]

2 hours ago, MediaZone4K said:

Great episode!

Doctor archer came in clutch tonight! I knew Goodwin wouldn't die but it was still riveting to watch.

I liked the little girl who challenged the mean arrogant doctor. We got to see his humanity at the end with him braiding her hair to avoid shaving her head. Has he ever been diagnosed with a form of social disorder? I kept yelling at the TV if she shaves her head they make great lace front wigs these days not like back in the day.

Are you all happy to have the psyc doctor back? 

 

Agree it was a good episode.  I called it that Goodwin would make Archer tear up his resignation letter. 

[Rapunzel]

On 1/8/2025 at 5:54 PM, MediaZone4K said:

I liked the little girl who challenged the mean arrogant doctor. We got to see his humanity at the end with him braiding her hair to avoid shaving her head. Has he ever been diagnosed with a form of social disorder? I kept yelling at the TV if she shaves her head they make great lace front wigs these days not like back in the day.

As my screen name may give away, I have extremely long hair and it has been so my whole life. While I don’t think I would opt out of life saving treatment if it meant they had to cut my hair, I would have the surgery, despite having several before (I had at least 4 surgeries go awry).  I have a rare neurological condition and my job has me traveling non-stop and relocating overseas, etc. This is exactly what I wanted when I started my career (and still do). Unfortunately my conditions don’t have any cure but are manageable and it also isn’t something you can’t see just by looking at me. I have extensive nerve damage due to trauma as well as the neuro condition, vertigo, etc. 

I’ve dealt with multiple neurosurgeons in the 15+ years I’ve had this rare condition. All the neurosurgeons everywhere in the world I’ve seen in my life have an awful bedside manner with the exception of 2. I had one neurosurgeon call me a “stupid little bitch” for trying to tell him which things seem to work previously best as I have a lot of allergies to meds and the nerve damage. 

Many surgeons of any type do not tend to have the best bedside manner but the most time they spend with a patient is when the patient is knocked out by anesthesia. Honestly, you almost want them to be far more focused on your surgery than they are about what’s going on in your life and what not (unless relevant to the case). Visits are usually pretty short with surgeons - they want to be in the OR and try to get as many OR hours and cases as they can. They are also competing for top spots and surgeons need OR cases to do that - the more challenging and/or rare cases, the better chance they get noticed (assuming it goes well).

You typically have one brief pre-procedure appt with the surgeon, discuss the plan, get your pre-op labs done, etc.. Many don’t see their surgeon when they enter the OR itself as, depending on the anesthesiologist, they may have knocked you out a little early. The anesthesiologist, techs, nurses, etc. will all likely be in the OR when they wheel you in. You wake up in recovery with a dedicated nurse at your bedside giving meds for pain or anything else needed, including any home meds you need. Most surgeons come see you after you’re in post-op (and hopefully more awake) and let you know how things went. However, you likely won’t remember it or maybe just pieces of it, depending on how soon the surgeon comes to see you after your surgery. 

As I mentioned, most neurosurgeons I’ve seen are a-holes. Most of them aren’t great with conscious patients. You want the best surgeon you can get and they can often be rude, arrogant, insufferable, etc. and those things can leave many patients thinking and hesitant to trust them in the OR. This why you sign a release right before they wheel you to the OR and make sure it only specifies what they’ve told you pre-op. If they need to do more than what was expected because it is necessary to save your life, they are supposed to do that unless you specifically tell them not to and fill out a DNR form. 

In my case, I’ve had over 12 surgeries and many more procedures with sedation. The docs can be difficult, and they have been brutal to me. They absolutely cannot stand when a patient who knows more about a rare condition, complicated by other rare conditions, than they do. I tell them what needs to be done as a patient with rare conditions for decades who was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic and, at that time, had my surgery done by the actual number one ranked neurosurgeon not just in the US, but pretty much anywhere in the World, particularly with my rare conditions. 

I would have loved to have someone like Dr. Abrams. He didn’t yell at the teenager, he was very direct with her as she requested him to be, and he actually seemed a tiny bit amused by it - neurosurgeons aren’t used to getting push back on anything they say from anyone - including the hospital board. 

Edited January 10 by Rapunzel

[KeithJ]

So, according to Maggie, Goodwin, who should have probably already bled out from her stab wound, purposefully stabbed her attacker in the middle of a fight so she wouldnt hit any organs?  C’mon. 

Edited January 10 by KeithJ

[NJRadioGuy]

Very good episode, easily the best of the three One Chicago installments tonight, which is usually not the case. Only thing I couldn't remember is who the woman was with Dr. Charles at the end. I like her.

Glad Lenox wasn't in this episode, and going forward how are they going to manage her character with Archer still in the building?

[Attatude]

It looks like these shows are all giving lead actors a few episodes off to save money.  Lenox will be back, unfortunately.  

I knew they would save Goodwin but I was also nervous during the surgery.  Archer is a much better doctor and person than Lenox. They are lucky she wasn’t there, or she would have killed Goodwin.

All the Chicago shows were preempted in the Los Angeles area for fire coverage.  Hopefully they will air later so people there can see them.