Gypsy Rose: Life After Lockup

[swankie]

I don't understand why the show's production staff keeps agreeing to give Gypsy's haters a vehicle to advocate against her.  The fact that they focused on that woman with the Justice For Dee Dee sign claiming that Gypsy is a liar has to be like a slap in the face for Gypsy given what her mother put her through.  Why encourage them?  Being able to sling their hatred of Gypsy on a broader level, being nationwide tv, is giving them exactly what they want.  

[Soapy Goddess]

11 minutes ago, swankie said:

I don't understand why the show's production staff keeps agreeing to give Gypsy's haters a vehicle to advocate against her.  The fact that they focused on that woman with the Justice For Dee Dee sign claiming that Gypsy is a liar has to be like a slap in the face for Gypsy given what her mother put her through.  Why encourage them?  Being able to sling their hatred of Gypsy on a broader level, being nationwide tv, is giving them exactly what they want.  

I don't get it either. At first, I could understand producers wanting to show us what she faces on a daily basis, but now it's become a focus of every episode. Enough is enough!

[Pi237]

Stop giving those wacky trolls tv exposure! Justice for DeeDee is way too old to be playing these games. Go home and get a life! Or better yet, protest for something that will make people’s lives better.  Nope, good works don’t get you those clicks o’ relevance. Sad, pathetic people. 
 

Was surprised her driving lesson went on for 4 hours. Did they stop for dinner!?🤣

[bilgistic]

I will never understand people spending actual time and energy to show up just to hate. Yes, Gypsy committed a felony. She was also abused for 24 YEARS, and none of us can begin to understand what that was like. Two things can be true.

I believe in restorative justice for most crimes (I can't get on board with forgiving SA/rape perpetrators), and I think Gypsy has shown what justice can look like. I don't agree with many of her choices, but I also can't imagine what her life has been like.

I know Kristy is a shit-stirrer, but I love how much she cares for Gypsy. Rod continues to impress me. He's genuinely sorry for having left Gypsy in an abusive situation and has made amends. He loves Gypsy and supports her, even if he doesn't agree with her. She's fortunate to have her family.

Edited April 30 by bilgistic

[Pi237]

Aww loved their Christmas gift exchange. Rod was giddy like a little kid with that chainsaw. And Ken is so supportive. Cooking that whole, huge meal. I could feel his anxiety and frustration with all the hurdles on the way to the hospital. I wasn’t sure about him when he first came back into her life, but I think he’s a good guy and is genuinely in love with Gypsy. 
 

Graduation photos sure have changed. So Many outfit changes, & props!  I’m from the generation that popped over to the local studio with your best sweater on. Maybe, if your parents had some money, you’d get the neon laser background or sitting in front of the oversized numbers of your grad year. And if your parents had big money, a few outdoor pics by a pretty tree. Now, it’s like a whole professional modeling portfolio. 
 

 

[Pi237]

Feel bad for Ryan, and his Mom seems sweet, but not interested in seeing him sad sack though his interviews anymore. Enough. It’s over. Move on. Sign the papers. 

[swankie]

13 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Feel bad for Ryan, and his Mom seems sweet, but not interested in seeing him sad sack though his interviews anymore. Enough. It’s over. Move on. Sign the papers. 

Ryan thinking there's still a chance the baby is his is worrisome.  Have some self esteem dude.  Move on with your life and for goodness sakes get rid of that gosh awful mustache! 🤣

[swankie]

Ok, so I'm not understanding why Gypsy is sending Ryan photos of herself.  I don't even understand why she's sending him photos of the baby if it's not his.  And then to say they could still be friends shows me that this girl doesn't know what she wants.  Why give him false hope?  She's really playing with fire. 

[Soapy Goddess]

22 minutes ago, swankie said:

Ok, so I'm not understanding why Gypsy is sending Ryan photos of herself.  I don't even understand why she's sending him photos of the baby if it's not his.  And then to say they could still be friends shows me that this girl doesn't know what she wants.  Why give him false hope?  She's really playing with fire. 

Totally agree that she's giving Ryan false hope on both counts. The problem with Gypsy is that she is very naive when it comes to relationships. She's said numerous times that the only real friend she has was her mother. And that's a poor example because her mother tortured the poor girl.

From what I can gather, Ryan was her first real friend outside of prison, so she doesn't want to lose that friendship. In her heart and mind, she wants to believe that she can maintain a platonic relationship with Ryan. And as such, she wants to share her joy with a picture of Aurora. As for her sending him her photo, I have no idea why she would do that except to say "I'm still your friend...how do like my new hairdo?" (or something to that effect) 

[Pi237]

I don’t see her communication with Ryan as innocent. She was raised by a master emotional manipulator, and I think this ‘push/pull’ behavior was how her Mom gaslit her since birth. So, she’s doing it, too. When she feels Ken isn’t being as attentive as she wants, she starts texting Ryan. I don’t think it’s just wanting a friendship-But I also don’t think she has feelings for Ryan. I think she just likes the attention, when she wants it, on her terms.  I don’t think it’s Ryan in particular she wants, he could be any man that’s giving her attention and is ‘safe.’  She needs therapy to work out what healthy validation looks like. 

I feel for her, and don’t think she’ll Abuse her daughter like her mother did to her. However, I see her repeating certain relationship patterns where she does that push/pull thing whenever she’s feeling insecure and that’s damaging, too. 

[Gemma Violet]

Sending Ryan those photos (especially the glamor shots of herself) may be the straw that breaks the camel's back in their marriage.  As I was watching the episode, I was starting to think that maybe they had a chance for happiness.  Ken seems to be loving being a dad and obviously loves Gypsy.  I thought: who knows, maybe they can make it--stranger things have happened.  But then I saw the previews for next week where

Spoiler

Ken gives Gypsy an ultimatum that if she meets with Ryan, he will sue for custody and move to Texas with the baby.  Ultimatums are not very healthy for a marriage.

(I spoilered the preview in case not everyone has seen it.)

I agree Gypsy needs therapy or they are in for a rough road ahead.

[Salacious Kitty]

Spoiler

Ryan gets swabbed for DNA testing. 

Well, also in the preview for next week ..

Not sure what the spoiler showed up on top. That's not where I put it. Grrrr

Edited May 13 by Salacious Kitty

[bilgistic]

Ryan is PATHETIC. I really do not want to see his sadsack ass pontificating about how because the baby was born early, it could be his. Gypsy took a paternity test that proved the kid isn't his. Him refusing to sign over paternity is RIDICULOUS. It's a power grab. They both need to cut ties from each other completely.

And Ken threatening to take the baby when Gypsy is trying to establish paternity BECAUSE Ryan is being a shithead over it is so childish. None of these people need a child.

[chediavolo]

On 5/13/2025 at 3:03 AM, swankie said:

Ok, so I'm not understanding why Gypsy is sending Ryan photos of herself.  I don't even understand why she's sending him photos of the baby if it's not his.  And then to say they could still be friends shows me that this girl doesn't know what she wants.  Why give him false hope?  She's really playing with fire. 

She’s young and naive. More than most because of her circumstances. She may truly believe they can be friends. She really needs to be seeing a therapist weekly to learn how to live normally after a lifetime of abuse and then prison. I hate how people are so vicious toward her. Just imagine yourself in her shoes. Having your body torn apart by your mother and drs Frankenstein. Speaking of, is this family going to prosecute every doctor who operated and disfigured this girl on the whim of the mother?! 

[Gemma Violet]

Tonight was the season finale.  The episode ended with Ken looking at engagement rings.  I was thinking they'd have a more dramatic cliff-hanger.  

[swankie]

I love how Ryan's lawyer asked, "Why?" when Ryan told him that they still text one another.  Good for him for trying to convince Ryan to move on and stop being so delusional.

Am I wrong for wanting to see Ryan's reaction when he got the DNA results?  

[Pi237]

It appears Gypsy is more self aware than I thought, as she recognized she self-sabotages, and pushes people away. So, you see the pattern, it’s your job to fix it. 
 

My closed captions making me laugh, every scene with Ryan, “sad, gentle music.”   Is he sad about losing Gypsy/the baby? Or sad about losing his only reason to be on tv? 
 

Good for Ken for putting his foot down, and refusing to let his daughter be used as a pawn. That’s a good Dad. There was no reason Ryan needed to ‘see’ the baby. It was another excuse to stay tethered to Gypsy and her media attention. 
 

I wish them well. Gypsy will be fine if she stops sending Ryan flirty glamour shots.  He’s not the Dad. Get the divorce and stop contacting him. Or you’ll lose Ken, who despite my earlier reservations, seems like a really good guy. 

[Soapy Goddess]

16 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Is he sad about losing Gypsy/the baby? Or sad about losing his only reason to be on tv? 

I'd say it's definitely a combination of both. He really needs to shape up and find a new love interest, or at least a hobby, to occupy his time.

[bilgistic]

I don't know, y'all. Ken was WAY out of line threatening to move back to Texas and file for sole custody of Aurora (that name...) if Gypsy saw Ryan for the paternity test. I totally get his frustration, and Gypsy absolutely needed to cut the shit with Ryan, but Ken was doing the same thing as Ryan--treating the kid as a pawn in their power play. Despite Ken looking at engagement rings at the end of the show, I'm sorry to say that I don't see him and Gypsy lasting. I think he wants to be a good dad, but him giving Gypsy that ultimatum when they've been together such a short time is a HUGE red flag.

Ryan was RIDICULOUS to insist on another paternity test. My dude, the baby isn't yours and another test isn't going to magically make it so. I'm so tired of him and his weird facial hair. I really want one of his loyal followers to take him and whip him into shape physically and mentally. I'm not body-shaming, as I'm not a small gal myself (I lost ~80 pounds over the past two years). I just think he'd be so much happier if he worked on himself instead of focusing on Gypsy and what he supposedly lost. Also, he could just pull up his damn pants.

[swankie]

11 hours ago, bilgistic said:

I don't know, y'all. Ken was WAY out of line threatening to move back to Texas and file for sole custody of Aurora (that name...) if Gypsy saw Ryan for the paternity test. I totally get his frustration, and Gypsy absolutely needed to cut the shit with Ryan, but Ken was doing the same thing as Ryan--treating the kid as a pawn in their power play. Despite Ken looking at engagement rings at the end of the show, I'm sorry to say that I don't see him and Gypsy lasting. 

I'm wondering what Ken's reaction was after seeing that Gypsy was sending Ryan glamor pics and pics of the baby.  That couldn't have been pleasant for him to watch. 

Edited May 22 by swankie
Completed a sentence.

[Salacious Kitty]

5 minutes ago, swankie said:

I'm wondering what Ken's reaction was after seeing that Gypsy was sending Ryan glamor pics and pics of the baby.  That couldn't have been pleasant for him to watch. 

Gypsy was trying to have her cake and eat it. Hopefully, now that the divorce is finalized and paternity established, Ryan goes bye bye. We don't need another season of that sad sack. 

[bilgistic]

I think Gypsy's pathology (or one of them) is only knowing how to get attention by acting out/being inappropriate. She never learned "normal"/healthy interaction between people in a relationship. She never went to school. All regular childhood activities, friendships, interactions, feelings, etc. were squelched by her mother. She doesn't know how to act around adults because she only had one person in her life who was feeding her complete lies and manipulating actual physicians, which completely blows my mind. I couldn't get pain meds when I recently broke my wrist, and these people were PERFORMING NEEDLESS SURGERY on this child.

Imagine having to start from scratch in your mid-20s--in prison, no less--trying to build trust in other people when your sole guiding adult has told you people can't be trusted so you must lie to them. My mother treated me similarly in my childhood (not Munchausen by Proxy, but because of my father's infidelity, she drilled into me that I can't trust anyone but myself) and it still affects me decades later.

This is also why I'm so touched by Rod's efforts to build his relationship with Gypsy. He was kept from her when she was a child, and he is choosing to repair their relationship and be a healthy and active part of her life. He is what every parent of divorce should be. I only wish my bio father could be half the man Rod is.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, bilgistic said:

I think Gypsy's pathology (or one of them) is only knowing how to get attention by acting out/being inappropriate. She never learned "normal"/healthy interaction between people in a relationship. She never went to school. All regular childhood activities, friendships, interactions, feelings, etc. were squelched by her mother. She doesn't know how to act around adults because she only had one person in her life who was feeding her complete lies and manipulating actual physicians, which completely blows my mind. I couldn't get pain meds when I recently broke my wrist, and these people were PERFORMING NEEDLESS SURGERY on this child.

This!!!!!   How are those doctors not up on charges!? They removed her saliva glands because her mother out numbing cream on her tongue and gums before appointments!! It blow my mind. I have to do a series of tests every 6 months to get my eye drop prescription renewed! Every 6 Damn Months!  And this girl Had life changing, invasive surgery based on her mother’s word.  She was failed by So many Adults, professionals for Gods sake.  Crazy. 

[seacliffsal]

I've thought a bit about Ken threatening to take Aurora and realized that supposedly Ryan's name is one the birth certificate.  If so, and Ken followed through on his threat to take Aurora, he could be arrested for kidnapping as he's not the legal father (allegedly).  Do none of these people think through anything?

[EXEAL]

We all know how reality shows work. It's very likely that the producers are steering both Gypsy and Ryan in certain directions... Urging Gypsy to keep in touch with Ryan and send pictures. Also suggesting to Ryan not give up the idea that Aurora might be his, telling him he should ask for more proof. The more controversy, the better the ratings.