S06.E01: Echoes

[GHScorpiosRule]

13 minutes ago, Swampy said:

I always assumed, that Murtagh came to Ardsmuir right after Culloden. When Jamie makes the deal to get medical treatment for Murtagh with Lord John in the Ardsmuir-Episode in Season 3 he sais to Lord John "He's been struggeling to survive here, ever since Culloden."

That wasn’t Murtagh. It was someone else. We learned Murtagh was also at Ardsmuir when he showed up in season four.

[Swampy]

23 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

That wasn’t Murtagh. It was someone else. We learned Murtagh was also at Ardsmuir when he showed up in season four.

He (Murtagh) is shown with Jamie in Season 3 Episode 3. They actually talk a lot there. 

Just rewatched the scene with Lord John. Jamie sais: "I would settle for one man, then. My kinsman, Murtah Fitzgibbons. He's been struggling to survive here ever since Culloden." 

[GHScorpiosRule]

47 minutes ago, Swampy said:

He (Murtagh) is shown with Jamie in Season 3 Episode 3. They actually talk a lot there. 

Just rewatched the scene with Lord John. Jamie sais: "I would settle for one man, then. My kinsman, Murtah Fitzgibbons. He's been struggling to survive here ever since Culloden." 

Huh. I must’ve missed that. Well haven’t watched since it ran.

ETA: D’OH! Now I remember seeing him!  Coughing and being feverish! I feel like such a Maroon!

Edited March 13, 2022 by GHScorpiosRule

[SassAndSnacks]

On 3/12/2022 at 8:22 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

I’m disappointed the show didn’t use that one sub-sub plot where Fergus declared himself a lawyer or whatever and  was defending Marsali? Or was it Claire? about something. The Buik description of him ripping the allegations to shreds was something I remember laughing over when reading it.

Was that in Drums?  When he supposedly assaulted the soldier?  Really it was Marsali who did it but the soldier was embarrassed about being bested by a woman so he accused Fergus.  The trial was the reason Jamie was in Cross Creek when Bree first met him.  No?  That book isn't among my favorites so I typically do some pretty heavy scanning.  

Edited March 17, 2022 by SassAndSnacks

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, SassAndSnacks said:

Was that in Drums?  When he supposedly assaulted the soldier?  Really it was Marsali who did it but the solider was embarrassed about being bested by a woman so he accused Fergus.  The trial was the reason Jamie was in Cross Creek when Bree first met him.  No?  That book isn't among my favorites so I typically do some pretty heavy scanning.  

Yes! I do my fair share of skimming because Diana seriously needed an editor; I found those scenes hilarious because I think Fergus used French curse words or something and was waving his hand (which in the buik, was a hook), and it was amusing.

@WatchrTina. can you help out here?

[WatchrTina]

5 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yes! I do my fair share of skimming because Diana seriously needed an editor; I found those scenes hilarious because I think Fergus used French curse words or something and was waving his hand (which in the buik, was a hook), and it was amusing.

@WatchrTina. can you help out here?

Oooh goody!  Research project!

Okay, after using my Kindle's handy-dandy search function to look for keywords like "trial" I found my way to the following exchange in Chapter 41, Drums of Autumn (Outlander Book 4).

"Yes, Mr. [Fergus] Fraser?  Had you something else to tell the court?"  Justice Conant dabbed a trickle of sweat that ran down from under his wig; with so many bodies packed into the small room, it was like a sweat bath.

"I beg the court might gratify my curiosity, your Lordship.  Does Mr. Berowne's original charge describe more fully the attack upon him?"

The Justice raised both eyebrows, but shuffled quickly through the papers on the table before him, then handed one to the bailiff, pointing to a spot on the page.

"Complainant stated that one Fergus Fraser struck him in the face with his fist, causing complainant to fall stunned upon the ground, whereat the defendant seized the bridle of the horse, leapt upon it, and rode off, calling out remarks of an abusive nature in the French tongue.  Complainant --"

A loud cough from the dock pulled all eyes to the defendant, who smiled charmingly at Mr. Justice Conant, plucked a handkerchief from his pocket and elaborately wiped his face -- using the hook at the end of his left arm.

"Oh!" said the Justice, and swiveled cold eyes toward the witness chair, where Berowne squirmed in hot-faced agony.

"And would you care to explain, sir, how you have sustained injury upon the right side of your face, when struck by the left fist of a man who does not have one?"

"Yes, crottin," Fergus said cheerfully.  "Explain that one."

And now -- to bring this post back around to the topic of THIS forum -- it is interesting to contrast this clever, self-assured version of Book!Fergus from earlier days with the depressed, drunken TV!Fergus we see in this episode.

Edited March 17, 2022 by WatchrTina