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PD just tweeted a pic of him in a ferryboat, so I guess we can officially rule out Derek's death now. They should be shooting 11x22 now, correct?
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I was talking about photos with PD released now,they must be either fans or extras.
As far as I know, the pics were with part of the crew and very few extras. However, the pics aren't that revealing, with exception of some of the crew that actually tweeted pics of the crash. The extras barely took pics of PD sitting down.
Maybe they're getting smarter about it.
I'm going to be disappointed if nobody dies. But I wonder why did they choose to make episode 21 the big one. I've seen other shows do it but GA never does.
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On Grey's characters have a better chance of getting some story if they are paired up.
Which is unfortunate but is the merry-go-round of characters as they rarely get explored on their own. At least Amelia had PP to do that. GA characters? Nada.
I could care less who disagreesClearly.
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I'm trying to think of the episodes that Grey's has time move forward inside 1 (not flashing back) and can only recall 1) George's funeral and 2) Callie/Sofia's recovery after the accident. Can anyone think of others?
S4 finale was laid out as it happened through several days, not sure if it counts as a flash forward so much though.
I recall reading about Sofia dying but as I remember it, it was tempting on what else Shonda can do, not a specific fandom wishing the death of a baby.
Just a thought that perhaps someone is injured/dead as the jumps have been used before to speed up the recovery.
They certainly would have saved up the time of the aftermath that they love to do so much.
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I will always hate Amelia, she has destroyed Greys for me,not only because of Owen, I didn´t like her when she came for brief appearances, I didn´t like her in S10 and I hate her in S11. I hate her more than I ever hated Teddy. And the actress is insufferable. If they wanted Derek´s sister, they should have brought Neeve Campbell back.
It's pretty obvious now and that is perfectly fine, as that is your opinion and one that many disagree with. But let's not bash Caterina as all she does is her job and one that she is excited about. You won't find much quorum when it comes to bash them.
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I'm saying it: Meredith is full of BS. "I'm blessed"? WTF. This seems fake to the end. I bought Derek's sentiment but he's always talked like that, so makes more sense for him to say that kind of thing. She is definitely trying to convince herself.
I loved loved the Amy/Derek talk. Hopefully the bickering will stop now and that Amelia gets over herself.
"I'm falling in love with Owen." Why? You can do so much better.
Bailey, ugh.
As much as I loved Derek and Amelia conversation....Derek saying their mom said he was miserable and to go back home seemed weird since the reason he actually came home was kissing the research fellow. I would have been happy if we just never had that kiss and what Derek said here was what brought him back to Seattle.I'm guessing he had this in his mind already when Renee kissed him. Sometimes, especially men, need a figurative slap in the face to realize what is happening. I didn't find this as weird.
Thinking back to prior really stupid story lines, Mere's streak is fully broken now. Is she going to decide that having Derek back and being happy makes her a crappy surgeon and decide to blow up her life?At least she'd be honest about him, which would be a good change. Given how Meredith has treated him this season, it would be nice to finally acknowledge where he stands, which is Pluto.
After this episode, the rumors of Derek dead very soon are growing. For some people, in this episode the situation of MerDer seems too perfect, like the calm before the storm. PIctures of burning cars on the Mount Hollywood in Griffith Park feed the rumors. Do you think it's believable ?I doubt it's related. It was said that Mer would have PTSD and perhaps believe he was involved but not a marked disaster. Although a probable disease revelation would be more devastating. JMO.
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When Rhimes did not succeed to put Owen with Teddy, because the backlash from Crowen fans was HUGE in S6,so she didn´t dare to let Hunt sleep with Teddy, but now once Cristina is gone,Rhimes is free to accomplish with Amelia what she wanted for a long long time with Teddy.
But let's also admit the difference: Cristina was still in the show when they tried to do the Teddy/Owen pair up, which made obvious sense to have the fans upset. It was a dumb plotline with no purpose. The difference is that Cristina is not here anymore. Crowen died a while ago and they need to move on to the next pairing. As annoying as Owen is, this was the natural course. I don't think the writers are trying to redo Teddy and Owen with Amelia and Owen, though.
I usually like Amelia when she's a normal human and not "I'm better than anyone" mode, which is annoying. Her talk with Derek was exactly what I wanted from both of them: a collaborative relationship and not the smugness that both bring out of each other when they are at their worst.
I think the problem with her on Grey's is that she does not really gel with any of the characters besides Webber/Meredith.Frankly, this applies to many other characters than her. At least she has a bigger connection to the show than say Stephanie, or even Owen. April & Jackson also seem like a distant memory that is required to write but have absolutely zero blend with anyone. I don't find this to be a big problem as much as say how the writers attempt to push her brilliance in the most arrogant manner possible.
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but there is an aggressive attitude or undertone from Amelia towards Derek. One line pops into my mind now and I remembered it because I found it very out of line from her, early on in the season might be 1103 - she said aggressively to Derek "Bite me!"
Then I'm horribly aggressive as I tell my brother to "bite me" all the time. He even bought PJs with that phrase.
She's the little sister. She probably was ignored or left last in things and had to call attention by being loud, especially in such a huge family. I don't find this aggressive at all but just childish. Neither her or Derek can be professional around each other, so this "bite me" just seemed rude rather than aggressive.
Stephanie instinctively shudders, you see fear in her eyes, she is scared of Amelia,Didn't see this. Especially with Stephanie fighting back. Stephanie understood that she's losing it and that it wasn't a personal attack.
Again Amelia shows no sign of compassion for Herman being blindThis has nothing to do with being aggressive, just insensitive. She wasn't actively yelling at Herman about being blind or whatever. I never felt that Amelia had any compassion for Herman, just a huge interest in her tumor, but I don't believe she was aggressive here.
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It may be different in your state or in WA, I do not know.
No clue. Where I live people usually use their iPhones as radio as well, so they just put it on speaker. Truth is...I had a professor that I really disliked that used Bluetooth the whole time, even during class. It's why I have such a disgust for them, nothing personal. :) I was a picturing a Wall Street guy with that.
Pretty sure it's illegal in most US states to talk or text while driving. My aunt lives in CA and enforcement is really tough in her area. It's even "illegal" here in Latin America but laws here are joke, so no biggie.
I think the episode itself may be worth just to see if anyone dies.
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It´s hard to say whether KMK still intentionally plays Hunt as a PTSD sufferer
KMK has an intense portrayal at all times. Even when he may not be trying, it comes off that way. I don't think this is an Owen has PTSD characteristic but just as he always seems to be. It's his style, is what I mean.
Amelia who throws aggressive tantrums and hissy fits /on Derek, on Stephanie,even on poor Herman as she didn´t listen to herIt doesn't come off as aggressive to me, it comes out as childish. With Derek it's the little sister/big brother childish. I haven't seen enough of her and Stephanie together to even see this.
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I clearly left out the Porsche part of the sentence, my bad. But like Tuleh2 said, the Porsche Cayenne is an SUV but I highly doubt that is a mid-life crisis car. I wouldn't expect one of those cars to have back seats and since Bailey is still a baby, he must still have a car seat. Not sure how it goes for kids at Zola's age.
Point is, if sides are correct, I don't think it's Derek or anyone with his car to cause the accident as PD's pics had him drive the SUV. I also don't know if he has the rich guy kind of type. I'd expect someone in a suit with a douche Bluetooth (sorry if anyone wears them, I hate those). But that's just a guess.
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I think he should see Dr Wyatt again.
Is there any proof he hasn't? Or he has stopped? How exactly does this work? If you're a doctor with diagnosed PTSD, can you drop therapy as you wish?
they don't understand that they make his reactions too extreme and aggressive.
I think some has to do with KMK's portrayal of Owen. He tends to look more aggressive than PD or JC when this kind of scenes are done. Derek and Alex can look a bit like a-holes but Owen almost seems like he's declaring war.
Or perhaps the writers cannot write men well.
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To be fair, Derek has an SUV with seats for his kids, so I doubt that is the over-priced midlife crisis car. My guess is that he's among those who either got into the accident or stops to help. Definitely not dead guy walking.
the surprise factor.
Many shows do this but I don't think GA will. TGW killed Will in episode 15. GoT kills everyone all the time but usually important ones go in episode 9. GA seems to have their major death reserved for SF. Whoever dies. If someone dies.
Or perhaps it will just be terrible injuries that will collapse in the SF. Maybe not death but not a good recovery. Who is due to have their NDE? Jackson? April? The interns? Tic toc!
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Oh, ok. Thank you windsprints, that solves my confusion in terms of the doctor. Whatever it is, seems big. A lot of press tweeted that they were on set while filming this episode, so seems it will be something.
Assuming PD wants time off to race next year just like he did this year, they will need to explain his absence.They have managed to work this in the past. Derek would have a 30 second scene in the hospital, another one at home and done. I don't think they'll send him to another hospital, especially knowing that SGH is ground zero of the most amazing surgeons in the history of modern medicine.
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Its confusing though because there's also sides where the paramedics and fire are there and the fireman tells the doctor to go home so he may leave the scene and not be at the hospital. An ambulance brings in another patient later (they say they are full, driver says they need to make room) so that could be the patient on the table too. I'm not sure how it works but if the hospital is nearby maybe they call for assistance if their neurosurgeon is not available.
Are we supposed to assume it's the same doctor? I mean, is it a neurosurgeon in particular?
I think you have an excellent point upperco, however, my point was more to add to what you stated, very well. It's not only that Arizona and Derek are poorly explored, but also that even so, Meredith and Callie are usually portrayed with the angle that they were the wronged ones regardless of how they may have pushed and pulled Derek and Arizona. It's them the ones to have to repent.
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PD posted a couple of pics with him in a car, so probably Derek will be among those treating the injured in the car pileup. They're still shooting 11x21, correct?
Arizona and Derek have accepted their parts in the mess of their relationships and that is simply not the case.But they are the only ones who end up having some sort of consequence. Meredith and Callie? They're never wrong.
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Wasn't he supposed to working on Brain mapping for the President? Why did he have a team of fellows/residents under him that had their own research going on? I am nowhere near a scientists so I don't know if Renee's autism study had anything to do with brain mapping.
The end goal for the BRAIN Initiative is the ability to cure or treat in a more effective manner, brain-related illnesses by mapping and understanding the brain better. Autism is a brain-related condition, so her choice to find a cure for autism, kind of makes sense with what the Initiative is trying to accomplish. I'm guessing most of these fellows did have some sort of study before being picked by the NIH to participate, as it's also a collaboration of ideas. I took this from the NIH site that had the description of the initiative:
"Given the ambitious scope of this pioneering endeavor, it was vital that planning be informed by a wide range of expertise and experience. Therefore, NIH established a high level working group of the Advisory Committee to the NIH Director (ACD) to help shape this new initiative. This working group, co-chaired by Dr. Cornelia “Cori” Bargmann (The Rockefeller University) and Dr. William Newsome (Stanford University) sought broad input from the scientific community, patient advocates, and the general public. Their report, released in June 2014 and enthusiastically endorsed by the ACD, articulated the scientific goals of the BRAIN Initiative and developed a multi-year scientific plan for achieving these goals, including timetables, milestones, and cost estimates.
Of course, a goal this audacious will require ideas from the best scientists and engineers across many diverse disciplines and sectors. Therefore, NIH is working in close collaboration with other government agencies, including the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), National Science Foundation (NSF), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity (IARPA). Private partners are also committed to ensuring success through investment in the BRAIN Initiative."
I always assumed that Derek was a part of the Committee (as he said it was THE job running the whole thing) and I assume that Renee is one of the fellows that's collaborating from another institution. I don't konw, this show makes up shit as they go.
Did he even tell her at all? Were those MerDer moment flashbacks of Meredith's or Derek's?He must have as they were both up all night and I'm guessing it was Meredith reliving what Derek told her. Pretty sure the show wanted to leave this vague on purpose but I don't find coherent Derek having the flashbacks when we only saw them while Meredith was in the scene.
I'm already reading comments like - I don't blame Derek with the way Meredith treats him.
Well, when she treats her husband like a second-class citizen that's supposed to revolve around her, I kind of can't fully hang Derek by the balls. This is not excusing his behavior (because he could've left when she grabbed his hand, dude isn't mentally challenged and knew where it was going) but I don't exonerate Meredith's role on it. You can't expect to have an 100% devoted husband while she goes drinking with her friends after he had a really terrible day or while his best friend from his childhood dies. A little comfort is expected.
Derek's far from a saint, but I don't assume that because he was the one to make the screw up, that past issues didn't get him to where he is. It's all I'm saying.
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They should honestly just make him a single dad
This would be great, so that we can kill the "I want a baby SL" with fire forever and ever. I am about 100000% done with his "Woman. Family. Baby." in need SL.
what she wants to believe is that a kiss is all that happened, or whether she merely suspects enough to be upset even if, as far as he's said anything,
I believe that given their prior history, she might be inclined to believe that this is the new resident that hot for teacher. In other words, that this fellow might just be the new Meredith. For me, it seemed that she just wanted to clarify that A) he did not have sex with her and B) she isn't the new intern who fell in love with the Attending when the Attending left his home because of or with marital troubles (which in both cases, Derek did and had). Obviously, Meredith might not be inclined to believe him at first (he never told Addison he was in a new relationship, he didn't tell Meredith he was married), which is understandable but given how it all went, I do believe he did tell her.
Not to the realization that he loves his wife, but to the realization that if they stay apart, something could very easily happen that would likely be even more damaging to the relationship than the mere physical separation that has clearly already been putting some strain on it.This is pretty much what it felt to me, too. I don't believe it was to question his love for his wife but to awaken him to his current situation of how fragile his marriage was. I mean, Meredith chose to go to a hotel for a weekend without telling him. Derek seemed to have been working to the wee hours and allowed a 3 second kiss to happen. There was something wrong and obviously Derek got awaken and terrified enough to realize this and go home. Meredith had clearly not realized this until he came clean.
Re: answering the call, did Renee know who Meredith was? I mean, Derek clearly was being an uptight professional to be the guy showing pictures of his family to the residents. And yes, she had to answer because otherwise how the hell would they have promoted the show for three weeks in row? With normal promos? Pff.
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Maybe they are saving the "You are my universe, my sun!" for the season finale after Anitam86's zombie apocalypse.
I expect that by then, the Earth will be a hot mess of a place close to Armageddon, so...it could happen.
I would not trust that woman to keep quiet about it pretend it never happened.
Eh, Renee didn't strike me as the Fatal Attraction kind of woman. Some would actually prefer it to keep it quiet out of embarrassment or actual regret of what she did. Her actions did contribute to make Derek leave a major project, so perhaps she would choose to not say anything. I don't know but I really don't believe that IF Derek didn't tell Meredith about the kiss (which I think that he actually did) Renee would call Meredith and be all like "hey, I made out for like 3 seconds with your husband".
Owen snapping at Amelia was just one more sign that he is not ready to be with someone.
Since this is not new to Owen, I doubt that he'll ever be ready to be with anyone. He snaps at everyone. Punches patients when he can't calm them down. It's his MO.
Speaking of professionalism - Is this how Derek leaves a job where he was basically appointed by the President? Just runs off still wearing his lab coat and never returns? How professional. No resignation, allow them time to find a replacement, hand off to the next person, etc. Nope. Just "oops I kissed someone, realized I wanted to go back to my family, gotta go".In the end I am thrilled Derek is back because can he please take Meredith now?
Has this show ever been professional? I mean, in the promo it looks like nobody told Owen, Derek was even back. And Owen is the CoS. But yeah, that also annoyed me.
LOL, no he won't because the sun still gets to do what she wants! It's the whole thing of being the sun. You get to do what you want without consideration of others.
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I'm hoping and praying that, for his sake, Derek actually told Mere that he kissed the research assistant
Personally, I think he did. I doubt that they'd stay up all night talking had he not say anything. The show left it vague because they're lazy but FWIW, I think he did.
I wonder if the reaction would have been the same had it been thatcher with the woman younger than Meredith.It already happened in S7 and Lexie went nuts. I think reaction is different when it's your parent dating someone younger than you, than just as an outside observer.
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That was it?
Three weeks for that kiss? Well they really milked it.
I really liked the last scene. PD can deliver dreamy speeches really well. I didn't actively disliked Meredith tonight, so that's something.
Owen needs to be on meds. Just chill the eff up, man. Jeez.
Don't care about the rest.
And so Meredith is The SUN and Derek is back to being her doormat (he practically said "You are the SUN - take my balls and wear them on your keyring"). Glad we've cleared that up...WELL OF COURSE. Not sure why expect any different.
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If there was a a legit possibility that this was a promising treatment, shouldn't that be worth pursuing?
I can't remember the exact line but I think Derek sent some of the work done to several doctors. It was on 8x03, when Richard went to ask Derek if he had heard anything about Zola and he was packing the results. If someone could correct me in this, it'd be appreciated.
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Meredith was the most unbearable resident in SeattleGraceMercyDeath
For me, that title still belongs to Izzie. Meredith has her moments, and certainly out of her and Alex, she has some serious issues, but for me, Izzie will always be the worst. I think that the main problem with Meredith is her lack of self-awareness in how she affects everyone with choices she deems as the right one. S8 has been airing on Lifetime now and Derek says that she jumps into the water without knowing how deep the water is or on who she's going to fall on. This sums up my entire problem with her. She ruined the trial for Adele, without any concern for Derek or the people who Derek could've saved. It's always what is in her mind the right thing and everyone must bend to her will. Because she's always right.
I do admit that I got to like Addison very much, especially on her own. She was definitely one of the best written characters. She had a presence that you could tell it mattered.
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Do the writers remember they are copying themselves???
Give them a break. They're on S11. They have no other SLs to play with and have to go with the same all over again. ;)
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Spoilers and Spoiler Speculation: Benchmarking
in Grey's Anatomy
You wouldn't believe how many people believed he's dying. And how many still expect him to die and this is his afterlife.
Maybe he becomes a zombie and I finally get my zombie apocalypse. I dig this idea.