Dani-Ellie

Thank you, guys. The vet pretty much told me I made the right choice, so I'm taking some comfort in that. And she was with it enough to give me a couple final licks just before he came in the sedative so there's that, too. I just was really not expecting tonight to go like this, so I've been kind of a mess, heh.

Just got back from the vet ... I had to put my kitty Cinnamon down. She was in congestive heart failure, and the options were do a chest tap to drain some of the fluid off (but they weren't sure how long that would have held) or put her down. I didn't want to keep her suffering and I couldn't take her home not knowing how much time we would have, so I chose to put her down. I was not anticipating this at all so I'm still a little in shock.

Thanks, guys. I wasn't sure if I was just missing something or what. Winning would still be awesome, don't get me wrong, I just don't want another fan fiasco on our hands.

Do we know what the source is on the interview at the end? I can't seem to find anything.

Note to fake article person: just linking to the Buzzfeed and E! Online homepages does not a source make. That is the fakest thing I've ever seen.

Thank you, Curio! And dude, that shortcut is kickass.

Voting ends tomorrow night and nothing would make a better birthday present that Captain Swan being advanced to the Final Four. ;)

Maybe it's just me, but I never once believed Maleficent's baby died. They had Maleficent drawing the parallel between her and Snow both trying to save their babies from the Curse. I just assumed the baby was lost to Maleficent the same way baby Emma was lost to the Charmings.

"Lost" doesn't necessarily mean "dead." Snow described the situation with Emma during the missing year as "I have lost my daughter for the second time." She was lost to Snow but she was alive.

I would forgive this show a lot if this is the case. *crosses fingers*

It does but at the same time, this is nothing new. Anyone looking at this show objectively realizes that Snow was a kid and that Regina's anger is misplaced. Anyone looking at it objectively knows that what Snow did to Cora was self-defense. At a certain point, I've had to just ignore the show's villain bias and recognize that the villains' logic is crap and thus the show's logic is crap. And honestly, the only one who keeps harping on Snow telling Cora about Daniel is Regina. More than once, the show has had Snow defending the fact that she was a child when it happened. I certainly have my problems with the writing on this show but the fact that things are being picked apart based upon speculation (educated speculation, granted, but speculation nonetheless) of how the storyline is going to go is frustrating. Maybe the show will treat Snow and Charming as the worst ever for what happened but maybe it won't. I just prefer to see how it plays out before I get upset about it.

Exactly. Showing them making a mistake is not the same thing as saying "no better than evil." I understand the impulse to harken everything back to making the villains look better in comparison but I'm also willing to see how this plays out before I make a judgment. It could be something as simple as Snow taking the guilt with whatever happened with Maleficent on herself like she does with what happened to Daniel when she was just a small part of the equation. I remember when "Snow Falls" aired, everyone wondered what the hell Snow could have done to Regina and then when "The Stable Boy" aired, everyone was all, "Wait, that's it?" There's no reason for me to believe, based on what I saw last night, that this couldn't turn out any differently. And I also feel like I'm the only one who actually appreciated Marco giving Regina August's stuff after she apologized. It doesn't mean he's now aiding her in her quest (because if he were, he'd be searching with them) but it was positive reinforcement for her that if you try to make something better after you've screwed it up, you might get the help you're looking for. If she truly is trying to be good, she needs to see the privileges being good can offer, otherwise why not just be evil?

So far I'm not at all seeing how what Snow and Charming did at all warrants the whole deepest darkest secret ever thing. Dollars to doughnuts the further reveal is more along the lines of how Snow admits she ruined Regina's life even though it's only part of the reason. Which is fine with me because yeah. So the "great potential for darkness" in Emma is pretty much like I thought ... her power and how she uses it. Speaking of Emma, she and Hook are still the cutest little muffins this side of the Mason-Dixon Line. (Emma walking with her chin on Hook's shoulder at the end there may be the cutest thing I've seen in a while.) I liked that she recognized that he would come to her in his own time and that she let him know so he'd be comfortable enough to do so. Much like she did when he asked her permission to go through her box of childhood trinkets, he has to be secure enough with her that he feels whatever happened won't send her running in the other direction. Marco was my hero this episode. Yes, finally, someone laid the truth on Regina. And no, Regina, it is not okay to talk to any child like that, and certainly not a child who has already tried once to remember what Adult August knew and couldn't (and guess what, Emma and co took their disappointment in that instance on the chin ... y'know, like adults). (And Pinocchio is still an adorable little kid.)

I still think Snow could have been properly integrated into the A-plot here (considering the A-plot was Snow's daughter almost freezing to death). I'm sure they were limited by Ginny's availability but the question of why they chose to use the time they had with her in the way they did still remains. They chose to write her a plotline dealing with having the mayor position thrust at her and attempting to turn the electricity on (and "buy a flashlight" was hysterical, don't get me wrong) but why separate her from the story at all? No, Ginny couldn't have been at the ice wall with everyone, but here's the thing: neither could Snow. The character has a days-old baby ... so use the baby to the story's advantage. Snow's stuck at home with Snowflake while everything is going on at the wall. Charming keeps her updated with a couple of frantic phone calls. It would have been no more physically demanding for Ginny and would have required no more screentime (and thereby working time for Ginny) but it keeps the character involved. Because Snow's absence while everyone was gathered around Emma is glaring and the fact that there is no onscreen reaction whatsoever from a mother whose daughter almost died is ludicrous.

Exactly. I would be much more inclined to believe the representation argument if many of the people for SQ were pushing just as hard for Mulan/Aurora or Ursula/Cruella or Belle/Red or Emma/Elsa or any other same-sex pairing. But the fact that a vast majority of it comes across as "SQ or the highway" makes the "we just want representation" claim look a bit suspect. (And frankly, SQ to me has the same host of problems these fans claim CS has, so.)

For this one instance, perhaps, but this one instance is indicative of the big problem here, which is how dare someone who doesn't know the actors and actresses personally presume to know how they live their lives? I highly doubt that fan would ever say that to Jen's face, which is also part of the problem. If they wouldn't say it to their face, I don't think they should be hiding behind a Twitter handle and an avatar to say it to their colleague.

Jesus flippin' Christmas. I don't get it. At. All.

This is funny and all (no, seriously, it's hilarious) but wtf is up with this fan reply re: Jen's joke in the special about having it in her contract that she has to kiss hot men: "@ScottNimerfro Thank god. I wouldn't put it past her. It would explain a lot of her PR." No, seriously, wtf?

What I loved about the drive-thru scene was that I at first thought they were stuck in traffic. Which, Rumplestiltskin, Cruella DeVil, and Ursula being stuck in traffic was funny enough but somehow the drive-thru made it funnier.

Part of what did it for me, aside from all the awesome and adorable Captain Swan stuff, is that the story had room to stretch its legs and breathe. There were only the two flashbacks, one at the top of each hour. The rest of it was this little homage to Back to the Future (which I adore anyway) and it was really given the chance to just flow and shine. It was fun and it was funny and it hit all the right emotional beats for me, and if I just ignore the part in between Robin and Regina entering Granny's after the couples montage and the cut to Elsa coming out of the urn, it's absolutely perfect. ;) And it's so frustrating because you have these guys who can write these two episodes and do wonderfully with it. I remember riding the Charming Family/Captain Swan high off these two episodes at least halfway through the summer hiatus. And then you have other episodes where the emotional things are shortchanged or swept under the rug and it's like, but this is where the drama is, you guys. This show fires on all cylinders when you let it wear its heart on its sleeve. Why don't you do it more often?? I hadn't seen Frozen prior to the characters' arrival on the show (and I still haven't seen it in its entirety, since I've only ever seen it with two small children who were up and down during it), and I loved all the Frozen stuff on the show to pieces.

Hell, I'm just happy they used a magical object already in play rather than finding something random and convoluted hidden in Rumple's shop.

Maybe I'm just annoyed because the shitstorms that are happening are so damn petty. Like ffs, we can't even have a live tweet session without a bunch of fans getting their undies in a twist over the use of "savior" instead of "swan." It's not like Jen did or said something egregious. The fans jumped on her for using the wrong word to describe her character's interactions with another character. A couple months ago, it was a picture of a tea blend, for crying out loud. This seems to happen a lot over the smallest shit and I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerened, that's on the fans. They need to grow the hell up and stop following Jen on Twitter if she pisses them off so much. This.

I wonder how much of this is because once again we know so much more than the characters do. This is a constant problem, where we're privy to all the villains' machinations but the good guys aren't. We know the villains are lying but the good guys do not, so the good guys look like dumb-dumbs for taking people at their word.

This. The problem I have with laying the responsibility at the social media user's feet is that the fans are taken off the hook. Now, obviously, the social media user shouldn't intentionally go around pissing people off but the fans have a responsibility here, too. Social media interaction is a two-way street, after all. This goes back to the same problem I had a few months back of these fans demanding respect but not giving respect in return. They demand what they want when they want it and in the way that they want it and they will absolutely let you know if you've failed. That's not fair. There is absolutely no way I can expect actors and actresses who spend literally more than half of their day on set making the shows we watch to understand all the intricacies of fandom. There is no way any one person -- actor, actress, writer, social media intern -- can understand all the intricacies of a particular fandom. Hell, I'm in the fandom and I don't understand all the intricacies of it. There should be a responsibility on the fans to have the maturity to remember that there are in fact real people on the other end of the username, real people who have real lives and real feelings, and there should be a responsibility on the fans to recognize that their little section of fandom is not the center of the universe. But maybe I'm the one who's naive, expecting others to exhibit maturity and common decency. They are screwed either way, and it's so very sad. Because look, I'm old enough to remember writing fan letters and sending them off to fan mail addresses care of the studios and maybe getting an autographed picture in response. Here we have an opportunity to directly interact with the people who make our shows and possibly have them respond in real time ... and this is what people do with it.

In a world where real people have spent inordinate amounts of money for surgeries to make them look like a cat, Barbie, and Justin Bieber, a Cruella DeVil wannabe doesn't even scratch the surface of "eccentric millionaire." ;)