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I edited my original post and I found it and downloaded it though as I said there’s different ones you can use I guess?

Thank you! Hopefully I can find it in Apple Store edit: I found it although there’s a few different ones.

That’s an interesting take on a fanfic can I ask what the app or link is for this Al fanfic thing?

Yes I know I saw the show all the way through and , but like I said in my previous post it wasn't premediated, but yet she still gets all the hate for that one act and I don't think it's fair or right because she didn't mean to do what she did, she had remorse. Honestly because of what she did and I can't stand the woman she anyways and I couldn't even really stand the main character either, but that's just me. My story has gotten some interest, but not how I'd like to be(Yeah I know it's probably not going to change, but I don't like it) and some of the readers aren't for my ship either especially the one reader who has stayed with the story since the beginning which is odd and really bothers me honestly because they ship one of the main couples that I hate. We agree there...rare pairing is very lonely for sure...and I also agree yes it was very horrible to the women characters especially the woman character I love suffered too much and I hate(d) it

To answer your question about the man - no he doesn't have alot of fans either, but he came into the show later on so that's also another issue the point is and was so many issues stacked against this couple it's not even funny(not in term of them being toxic or anything because they weren't at all although at one time the writing for the couple was trying to become a bit toxic, but thank god it didn't work because I would have hated that especially since the couple wasn't toxic to begin with plus I hate toxic couples) it makes me wonder why they were even put together in the first place and just the way I guess people didn't latch onto them? and not many even did that either and they weren't a main couple, but all of this isn't fair at all in my opinion just because they were later on couple doesn't mean they had to be treated the way they did by everyone including writers and treated like dirt in canon as well by...everyone, it's not right; see the man is hated by association as I've said before because he dated this woman..and of course she's hated by the majority. To answer your other question - yes correct she and the man were both main characters and background characters honestly although more than the woman than the man only because he like I said came into the show later on and it's really ironic although the woman wasn't exactly the main focus a lot of the times, she did have a few storylines in the first few seasons and was a intigual and vital part of the show. As for the "bitch" comments for women in the fandom it's not right, but to my understanding it's how a lot of these fans "show" respect the character(the woman), but to me that's not what I'd call having respect for a character especially a woman who called herself in canon, but it certainly didn't seem like she was calling herself that in a respectful way at all, but even if she didn't do that I still wouldn't be calling her that because that word is first and foremost a dergoatory name in my honest opinion and I just can't do it and I don't understand that logic and never will. I guess the point is it's a double standred between men and women in the fandoms and I hate that, it's so not cool with me at all and in fact it's ridiculous and horrible! The only time I've used(or seen it at least in general before I learned about all this "respect" stuff was associating it with it being a horrible name for a woman an that's how I've always took it) the b word is when I'm speaking in a non respectful tone..I've never heard it used any other way, but that..so again it's just a weird logic to me. (I'm talking about in general here) but this woman character is called every name in the book including "bitch" and the fandom says she deserved everything she got and so on...but I saw her differently there's that..I saw her the way the man she becomes involved with saw her..which was very a damaged woman although he doesn't say this in so many words, but it's what I'd like to believe he meant. As for the social media same here..I have social media only because of basically family on it who don't really live close to where I'm and maybe a few celebrites I love I follow a few friends, but I don't post on them at all very much and if I didn't have any family on them I'd be off I'm sure and I can't call Twitter X and honestly I'm done with Twitter anyway it's ruined for me now and as for instagram...don't post on it much either and same I'm pretty private myself.

Yeah well this woman is - or was an interesting character in my honest opinion, but unfortunately the show wasn't about her specifically(she was actually written as a background character at first and so was the man she later becomes involved with, but that changed a bit for both of them then eventually they both went back to be basically background characters in the end) so that's also another issue on top of everything with them that I hate(d) and I love(d) her more than I did the main character the show was based/focused around and honestly I admit more than the show itself and of course later on I got into the man character for which the woman character was dating and so on. It definitely gets to me when this character is called a bitch I can't even tell you how uncomfortable it makes me I can't stand it and I think it's ridiculous and not fair at all. This! I think is why I'm having so much trouble is because I grew up at a time when social media wasn't a thing and now it is and I hate it pretty much. That said I know it's the way of the world now, but I can't stand change I've never have been able to deal with it well nor accept it and I think that's my other issue and why I'm having such a hard time with all this. I'm trying, but it's not easy to accept.

First of all I don't have thick skin wish I did especially for fanfiction (I'm trying, but I guess it's still hard for me) and secondly I understand the show is over and has been for quite some time now, but I got into it very late (2018 which was like 5 years after it was off the air) But honestly even though the show is now over and nothing's going to come of it I've seen a lot of new fans coming into it, but of course not for my two favorites sadly. I just don't get the hate for the woman character because the act itself committed by her wasn't premeditated (It was even confirmed by the actress herself it wasn't) and it a mistake, but yet the majority of the fandom still hates the character anyway and I just don't get it and never will (and don't get the hated for the other man character just because he got with the woman character and if you want to get techical everyone on that show did horrible, heinous things, but yet this woman charactet gets basically all of the hate I mean in terms of hate on the another level and that's what I have a major problem with. not hate in general because I get that, but I don't think I've ever actually out and out hated a character though) and unfortunately and sadly the fandom takes the hate to another level in terms of the woman character, but that's another story. As for my pairing I get what your saying, but it's still not something I want to accept because I have a hard time doing so and because I mainly go for rare pairs and this is one I went for (though I promised myself I wouldn't, it didn't work). I think I'm gonna finish it because I started it, it's just frustrating even though I know going for rare pairs it's apart of the territory of people not being invested in them/not getting many readers and so forth, but I don't have to like it and I don't I hate it and to answer your question no I wouldn't be able to turn the story into an original fic because I'm not into the OC thing never have been and honestly the only time I ever done anything with them/use(d) them is if they are really needed or to keep the story moving along in terms of the plot that's it, but thank you for the suggestion. On another note I've tried posting links to the story everywhere I can think of, but it really hasn't helped much. I'm gonna try and develope a a thicker skin with my pairing, but I don't know if it'll be accomplished much.

The Conners is apparently coming to Netflix soon https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-conners-to-stream-on-netflix-in-the-us/

Yeah that too unfortunately, but I'm talking about in general, but yeah I should have put that into my post that definitely doesn't help me or my depression...At least I didn't post anything so there's that.

I'm still writing, but I'm so depressed with not getting any new readers. I'm starting to think it's me is why I'm not getting any not mention my writing sucks and I think that's the other reason. It's like why even bother writing anymore...Rare pairs are so difficult and so frustating I wish I never got into any of them because it's not worth it ugh....😭 Either no one is reading or they are and just not saying anything. I guess I'll never be used to this..*sigh* blocking out the trolls and idiots/flamers and you don't have many people left...

This is all great advice it's just with my couple it's not easy doing all of what I'm continuing to do alone that's the point I'm trying to make with my latest posts the few friends I do have for this character and especially the couple aren't doing anything about it and especially in terms of fanfics it's only me keeping them alive in that way. The fandom as a whole is a horrible, disturbing and sickening honestly(not all of them are, but the majority are) so it's why I talk with so few people in it, but like I've said I have a few I talk with which helps somewhat, but it's still a struggle between this couple being like they are (underrated and so on) and the main woman character being hated on it doesn't do me any good and even the people do like this main character I have issues with too because they see her as what I don't they call her the "b" word out of respect and honestly I'll never understand their logic and it makes me very uncomfortable and bothers to no end..how can you love a character and then call the person names like that?? it makes no sense to me at all. The character called herself that in canon at one point and it didn't sound like it was coming from a respectful place at all and it wasn't I could tell it's why I can't call her that or any other derogatory name they call her and why it bothers me so much and makes me uncomfortable when these called fans of hers call her that...name so again I don't get it and I can't call her that name and never will because the other reason is I saw her as just a damaged woman that's it. The fandom is mostly on facebook, but I left all of the groups for this show because of the hate being still so strong for this character (that's the main reason, there were other reasons that I'm not gonna get into it on here) and the couple not being recongized and posted about like I want (ed) them to be which is barely and they were barely talked about in the groups anyway until I brought them up so yeah it's very difficult. It's hard being the only vocal one with this couple and me showing my love for them isn't easier when they aren't popular and the two couples especially the one that I hate get more love and so on...it's an on going battle for me that I'm not winning. As for reviews I guess you're right I have been noticing more and more people not commenting anymore on fics which is really sad, but honestly I think with my fandom it has more to do with the couple/character I'm writing about than anything else and not because they don't want to write anything and I say this because the other couple I hate within this fandom gets so much more love on their fics and get comments left and right trust me I've looked on the sites they get the long ones too...and so yeah that's what I have to deal with and I can't stand it because I hate this couple so much and yet they are written about left and right and get all the long, loving comments while my couple/character get barely anything... By the way I'm still talking about Sons Of Anarchy Gemma & Gemma/Nero as the couple, the other couple I was talking about mostly was Jax/Tara they're the couple that I hate along with Gemma/Clay who I've never mentioned until now, but Gemma/Clay and especially Jax/Tara are the most popular couples within the fandom.

You know I kind of wish I had people who were fandom blind reading my stories because maybe then it would be better and I could get more reviews because I'm barely getting any now maybe two max sadly(although I was getting a like 3 or 4 before, but I have 11 that follow the story and out of all of those readers only a few who actually read & review and two of them really don’t love this couple or characters at all which really sucks, I'm so upset and frustrated I know I should be used to this by now because rare pairs usually aren't ones that get much readers or reactions to stories, but I can't help it) or with the fandom blind option maybe I could sway a few people on the couple as well. I think it would be easier to convince people of the couple and how just awesome and amazing they are. 🤷‍♀️ Sure it might seem like it's a great thing to have a few readers & reviewers, but to me it isn't, I'm sorry, but that's just how I feel. I've tried everything I can to get new readers/reviewrs and nothing has worked at all so I just give up honestly.

Well I ended up leaving it out because I thought about it more and I'm not one that likes inviting drama so yeah I think that was the best thing to do, but I did put a note indiciting a character I put into the chapter and also saying that the character deserved friends(because she does in my opinion). It's just frustrating for me literally. Like I've said I'm the only one writing for this couple and that's also the thing that I don't like I just wish others were writing for them or still writing, but on the other hand I hate the way these other people within the fandom write this character and the couple because it's not how I saw them if you know what I mean...I saw them differently especially the one character(the woman) whose hated on so much so I'm so conflicted with that. I write them and this character the way I want to and saw them, but I think my writing sucks so that's the main reason why I want them written on more and the other reason is because well...I'm sick and tired of just see MY story up on the platforums especially FFN. I have a few friends I talk with about my frustrations about this character and the couple (they love both thank goodness) but there's still frustation and anger for me even though I have friends who think like I do. I'm not a blog person so I wouldn't feel comfortable honestly ranting about stuff like that on one of those.

Well that I guess gave me the answer I needed, but I meant in the authors notes not the story itself, but thanks for that perpective though, sorry I wasn't more clearer in my original post. I guess I'll just leave it out because it is a pretty long rant, but I might put it into my profile instead? Don't know yet even that it seems like not such a great idea either, but I'm sick of this couple and characters being hated on so much.

Has anyone ever vented about a character or a couple in their fanfics? Like what you hate people call them or how the character and couple are written by other writers? I'm asking because I have this long venting rant that I wanted to put into my latest chapter, but I keep on going back and forth on whether to post in there or not. I'm thinking no, but at the same time yes because this character and couple need defending because they both are treated like dirt within the fandom and not to mention both aren't liked much at all and I'm sick and tired of it all. I'm really conflicted.

It is so hard to write for yourself when your doing it alone and with very little to no motivation from others or anyone else that writes for your couple (which I don't have that at all). 😭 Sometimes like now I regret even writing my stories in the first place.. It's so depressing and I don't know what to do..

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I'm still writing on chapter 26 of the Gemma/Nero story I've been writing for the past few years now, it's coming along pretty well and I'm also starting a new story on them as well. Truthfully I'm a bit nervous about posting this new one up as it's a way different plot then my other one like way out there and whatnot and it's another AU/non canon idea I've had for awhile.In addition I'm just afraid no one will like it or think of it as believable, but honestly I love the idea and so I want to see where I can take it assuming it ends up going anywhere. 🤷‍♀️

@Annber03 Did you get my PM?? If so would you mind writing back? On another note I’ve already started chapter 26 just a bit and I’m hoping this chapter will be done faster than 25 was. 🤞

Yeah well not sure if I want a beta at this point because of what happened and since my couple isn’t that liked/loved and really only this other main couple has stories on them over there there’s no point in me having one because I’ll probably never find one that’s on the same page as I’m unfortunately and sadly. It’s been awhile, but that’s how I remember it happening. By the way I hope you got my PM.

Well I’ve posted up my next chapter of my story which would be 25 and I’ve already started 26 a bit. I ended 25 with another cliffhanger which I was debating on because I hate cliffhangers, but in the end I did it anyway. I’m beta-ing my story myself, but I think I’m horrible at it because I missed some minor mistakes that I had to go back and correct once I posted it and I hate when I have to do that. I wish I had someone else to look over my story, but on the other hand I did have someone and it just didn’t work out. Honestly sometimes betas are a good thing and sometimes not and in my opinion I think you should be on the same page with things especially who you ship/love when working with the other person or else it’s really not going to work and I think that was my main problem with my beta sure they loved Gemma/Nero, but they also liked/loved the main couple on the show that I hate and I was basically forced to put them into my story because they are the most popular one (in other words it wasn’t by my choice although I put them in because they were apart of the show I basically was trying to make others happy including my beta and I caved which I shouldn’t have) and I’m never ever doing that again, I’ve learned my lesson!

Actually you could say it's both of those things I have a few fans of the story, but on the flip side a lot don't really review either. I've gotten more support on one site than the other as well which I guess isn't nescessarily a bad thing.

I do enjoy my couple I love them so much, but it's just frustrating because they are a rare pair and they aren't popular and I hate that.

Yeah I hate the way fanfiction is looked at nowadays like social media and I hate social media so I'm more used to people commenting you know like it was in the old days I guess you could say. I don't use my phone a lot for fanfiction either especially when I'm writing because you it's hard for me to type all that out especially because my chapters in my story at the moemt are quite so I definitely use my computer for that among other things. Yeah I've read and have read a lot of unfinished stories and I don't know why and I'm not gonna lie I do get upset when it's an amazing story and it's not finished. Yes I agree with you that is what fanfiction is all about or it can be non canon stuff too it just depends, but it's frustrating when a lot of people don't read WIP because they aren't completed or they think it won't so they don't read it. I'm not one of those writers who would do that with my story although not gonna lie it's hard with mine because of the couple I'm writing for as I explained above that I've wanted to give up several times already especially recently, but something just always pulls me back into it you know It definitely is rough for sure! I'm not exaggerating at all and as for other places for my couple and my fanfic - trust me I've tried everything I can to get more readers(plus any new readers) and more exposer, but it hasn't really worked at all. In addition it doesn't help that the character is so hated by the majority of the fandom as well because what she did and how she was and Nero is hated by association in the fandom because of the fact that he dated Gemma so that also makes it rougher for me as well, but I didn't see her as a bad person or how the majority of the fandom did and still does to this day I loved both her and Nero as characters and I fall in love with them as a couple too so I took upon myself to write on them because they were (and are) so underrated as a couple in fanfiction and in everything else and were also treated horribly in canon by everyone 😭 and I'm pretty sure that if I didn't that no one else would write for them and my story on them is the only one on FFN that is multi chaptered, they only have one shots over there sadly. Anyway to me they were (and are) a beautiful couple and I'll never stop loving or shipping them I don't care what anyone says. 💓 I know SOA wasn't exactly a romantic type of show literally, but I just wish my couple wasn't treated as they were because there was nothing bad nor wrong about them at all they had everything in their relationship (And everything that I loved) and I wish more people loved them and they weren't hated so much and I think it's ridiculous and stupid the reasons they are hated by the fandom. Just curious do you read fandom blind stuff by chance?

Wattpad I guess isn't a commenting type of site I guess you could say because there's an option where you can just vote on a chapter instead of actually commenting, but I guess because I'm and was always so used to FFN's system that I was expecting comments more than votes when I first joined the site and I'm just not used to still even though I've been on wattpad for quite awhile now. Yeah I've heard this about WIP fics as well, but it's still upsetting for me you know and I don't like it because it just makes no sense to me really. I don't want to be one of those writers who abandons my story because honestly I hate when writers do that myself, but it's just frustrating and upsetting. As for the fandom I'm writing for it's not the fandom itself that's small or inactive (it's quite active considering the show isn't on the air anymore and hasn't been for years) it's the rair pair I'm writing for that's the issue sadly and unfortunately. There's a main couple that everyone in the fandom is writing for that I hate and cannot stand and plus the ones that were writing for my rare pair are gone from FFN and have been for years now and so I'm the only one writing for this couple so I feel quite alone in that aspect and I hate it. There's also another couple that was also a main couple on this show that a lot of people wrote for as well, but they aren't as popular as the main couple, but still this other couple is definitely more written about than my couple especially since this other couple was there first before breaking up and I also hate this other couple as well because they were always are so toxic in my honest opinion (despite what others think they weren't always toxic) and I can't stand those kinds of couples and of course I think the main couple was/is also toxic and that's the main reason why I can't stand neither of them. By the way the fandom I'm writing for is SOA (Sons Of Anarchy) and the couple is Gemma & Nero in case your wondering. 💓 I've been writing my story on them for a few years now (almost 4) which is shocking and amazing because I've never written a story this long before so it's quite an acomplishment for me I think.