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I really can't stand the character of Wolverine but I was delighted to see Madripoor come into the MCU proper. And I was weirdly happy to see the Princess Bar cameo.
"I gave the wings back to your ass when you were trying to save his ass from his ass." Now that's a line.
Now I haven't forgotten that Marcus and McFeeley VERY MUCH wanted Steve and Sharon to be living together at the beginning of Infinity War. That they're the ones who insisted that Peggy was just someone 'he kissed once' and then had to turn cartwheels and somersaults not only to have Steve going on about losing the love of his life but had him flee back to the 40s to go be with her again. AND THEN insisted that he was Peggy's husband all along in this timeline while the Russos were all 'no, he created an entirely different timeline by going back.' So Sharon getting the shaft was basically on the writers pendulum bullshit regarding the Carter women. *aggrieved sigh* But I don't mind at all her giving all three of those guys enormous amounts of shit.
However, Zemo trying to lay a guilt trip on Bucky and Sam over not going to the Sokovia memorial or whatever... those two guys had nothing to do with that, Zemo. Neither of them were on the Avengers at the time, Sam joined up AFTER all of that and Bucky was still roaming the world with his backpacks and notebooks staying as far under the radar as possible.
I do think it's funny that Zemo's all salty about 'icons' and 'pedestals' when HE'S A MEMBER OF THE FUCKING ARISTOCRACY. Is Zemo upset that Sokovia got carved up by the neighboring countries or is he upset that Sokovia isn't specifically a part of his barony anymore? Slippery slope there, Baron. That being said, his shooting Nagel was absolutely something I saw coming. If he doesn't want superheroes then he's going to kill the guy who figured out the formula and created a whole new batch. Now I imagine Zemo's going to be very interested in wiping out the Flag Smashers as he did the other Winter Soldiers.
Oh oh oh... John Walker. "Do you know who I am?!" That is so not cool. And so not something Steve Rogers would ever say when trying to get information out of anyone. Or at all.
Bucky using Steve's old notebook is sweet. Sam getting upset that Bucky isn't a huge Marvin Gaye fan is also kind of sweet. "Steve LOVED Marvin Gaye!" "I like Marvin Gaye." As for Bucky liking 40s music, hey, man... so do I. I would certainly love the idea of Bucky really liking Billie Holliday but Steve would have been the Woodie Guthrie guy. His guitar had 'This machine kills fascists' scrawled across it... yeah, Steve would have been ALL OVER that. Especially if he loved Marvin Gaye.
There is more to Sharon in Madripoor though. There's got to be. I'm not saying she's the Power Broker -- though that would be incredible and what an op she's got going if that's the case -- but she was right there when Selby was killed and able to fend off those going after Sam and Bucky. Hell... maybe SHE killed Selby as part of whatever she's got going on. She's in Hightown for a reason and it's not just because Madripoor has no extradition. I look forward to more of that.
Just as I look forward to Ayo. Bucky was waiting for them to show up. You can make the argument that Bucky had less of a problem releasing Zemo because he figured Wakanda would be more than happy to scoop up that little piece for themselves. Zemo has the potential to be a recurring thorn for awhile but I can't imagine him escaping Wakanda for long. He killed their king. They'll do something about that.
As for Zemo's dancing... it just reminded me of Mackie saying that Bruhl was the one who made him laugh the most on set and you just KNOW that was part of it.
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17 hours ago, shoetingstar said:
Wyatt this is not helping the situation:
"Hey, can I wear Evans' costume? Amp up the whole 'stepping into Cap's shoes' thing?"
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"No. No you may not." (goes to design a cheap knock off and a helmet that doesn't fit right)
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1 hour ago, Dani said:
Howard only made one shield because there was only enough vibranium for one shield.
Howard made a fuckton of shields but only the one was made of vibranium. And when Steve went towards it, Howard was all 'no no, that's a prototype' and then explained that it was all the vibranium he had. I did always like that scene in Ultron when Bruce read out Wakanda (poorly) and Steve and Tony looked at each other and had that quiet fierce conversation about how Howard got the last of the vibranium that came out of there.
How would one follow the trail of ownership, though? Howard made that shield working for? with? the SSR. The SSR became Shield. When Civil War happened, Steve dropped the shield and Tony took possession of it and only brought it back for Steve during Endgame. And then Old Steve gave it, or something akin to it, to Sam. Sam then gave it to the Smithsonian. And then Bearded Government Dickweed gave it to John Walker.
As for the Smithsonian, a quick search resulted in this:
The Smithsonian Institution is considered unique in the Federal establishment. The Smithsonian is not an executive branch agency and does not exercise regulatory powers, except over its own buildings and grounds. Thus, courts have held that the Smithsonian is not an agency or authority of the Government as those terms are used in certain laws applicable to executive branch agencies such as the Privacy Act, the Administrative Procedure Act, the Freedom of Information Act, and the Federal Advisory Committee Act. However, the U.S. Attorney General has concluded that the Smithsonian is so "closely connected" to the federal government that it shares the immunity of the United States from state and local regulation. In accordance with this doctrine, local zoning regulations, ABC licensing provisions, sales and use taxes, and real estate taxes are not applicable to the Smithsonian absent a specific federal statute. (There are several instances in which Congress has required federal entities to comply with state and local laws, so questions about the applicability of specific state and local laws to the Smithsonian should be directed to the Office of General Counsel.)
Now, actual real life legality is not something the MCU worries too deeply about (see Legal Eagle's video on Civil War for example) but also how many things in the Smithsonian can still be used in combat? I don't see anyone pulling out the Spirit of St. Louis to actually fly around in but, I mean, who knows? Still, Sam donated that shield... it should not have gone anywhere else without his say so.
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From what I recall, people actually stopping and recognizing Avengers have been pretty rare. It's only happened on screen to Thor, Tony and Smart Hulk. All three of those incarnations are pretty instantly recognizable, I would say. The guy at the bank thought Sam looked familiar and Sam had to prompt him a little for him to get it. And the one cop did recognize them 'I think these guys are Avengers.' And the kid did immediately recognize him. (Just like the kid at the Smithsonian was the only one to recognize Steve that one time.)
I think Bucky's more likely to keep his head down and not really want the attention. Sam strikes me as the guy who would be more welcoming to the attention for the most part. That's just one of many ways in which they're different.
19 hours ago, Chicago Redshirt said:The short answer is that there are lots of differences between the comics and the MCU in formatting, themes, pacing, etc.
I'm never going to see Frog Thor or Werewolf Cap. I'd be SHOCKED if we got Kid Loki for any Young Avengers stuff. And I've given up on them ever doing a good Phoenix story even now that the Avengers have taken possession of the cosmic entity. Maybe that's for the best, writers have been using it as a crutch regarding Jean for decades now.
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40 minutes ago, blackwing said:
On rewatch, it occurred to me that yes, we are supposed to dislike John Walker. We are supposed to think he is brash and arrogant and disrespectful. However, I have come to realise that as much as I hate him being Captain America, the character at least has personality.
I then came to the realisation that THIS personality is the personality that they should have had for MCU Hawkeye. Comic book Hawkeye is everything Cap is not. Brash, hotheaded, impulsive, cocky. That's what this version of John Walker is. The only thing missing is comic book Hawkeye's witty rejoinders.
I will be forever annoyed that they didn't give MCU Hawkeye some version of his comic book costume (love the old school bright dark purple and blue) and his comic book personality.
Comic Hawkeye is a fucking dumpster fire human who wakes up in actual dumpsters and calls Captain America to tell him he won't make the meeting. I mean, I love him... he's a trainwreck but he loves his dog. I honestly don't mind too much that MCU Hawkeye has a different personality... I just can't say there's much of one.
Honestly, Hawkeye's brief cameo in Thor was a good start. Then it just went to stoic and stayed there. I suppose it works for Shield Agent Barton but, yeah, I would have preferred MCU Hawkeye to have a little bit more. There were glimmers of something in the Afterparty during Ultron and when he got Wanda before she could wiggly woo him the way she did everyone else but they never went further. Even Family Man on the Farm was kinda... meh.
Perhaps we'll see something more promising in the mini-series?
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12 minutes ago, swanpride said:
Along with some propaganda critique. I think that's part of the reason why the football field scene feels so much more wrong than Steve's tour. Because Steve's tour WAS propaganda, but it was propaganda for a war against the Nazis (Hydra). But the football field propaganda doesn't have this excuse. What exactly is Walker standing up against?
I don't think he's necessarily there to stand against anything. The whole speech introducing him in Ep 1 was specifically talking about him being a hero FOR AMERICA. We have this idea laid out that after the Snap, everyone came together as one or something... okay, fine. Let's say that happened although based on numbers the population just went back to what it was in the 1970s and there was plenty of borders and tribalism going on back them.
But let's say that, yes, it was no longer about borders and flags but about one people, one planet and everyone coming back meant that people started dividing up again... and so the ones that were in charge before have decided to slap a flag on a dude and call him America's Hero... which, let's be real, Steve Rogers would NOT have done if that were the situation post Snap (probably because he knows all too well how fickle the government can be) -- it just reeks of 'America First' and no. Just no. So that's what I think John is meant to stand for. Not necessarily being AGAINST anything like Nazis or fascism or bullies or armored snakes from the sky...
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Just now, Chicago Redshirt said:
Whoops, got my fictional country confused with real world. Fixed in the original post.
Anyway, I think Zemo does not get enough credit fo rA) succeeding in his objective and B) living to see another day. Thanos is about the only one who achieves the former besides Zemo, and most Marvel villains end up dead.
Be fair. He actually tried to kill himself in Civil War. He had a very 'I've made the Avengers destroy themselves and now my work is done. I can now return to my family in the great beyond' mood about him. The only reason he lived to see another day is that T'Challa stopped him from killing himself.
He gets credit for succeeding in his objective but none for living. He didn't want to do that.
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2 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:
Zemo was introduced as a villain in Captain America 3: Civil War. The short version: Zemo was a special forces person from an Eastern European country called Slovokia. He lost his family when Ultron tried to use the country in his plot for world domination, and so Zemo developed a grudge against the Avengers. He somehow knew about Bucky's past as the Winter Soldier including the fact that Bucky killed Tony Stark's parents and exploited that to frame Bucky and manipulate Bucky's programming to create a situation where the Avengers would implode. Although he ends up captured, his plot worked. So for Bucky to want to confront the man who manipulated him is a Big Deal.
Sokovia is the country. Which is incidentally also where Wanda (and Pietro) is from.
Zemo being able to uncover all of that information was a little far fetched in Civil War but I actually do like how they used that to re-introduce him here. Zemo unearthed a lot of secrets. Bucky and Sam are dealing with a threat that people don't know anything about. How Zemo might know anything from a jail cell is a question worth asking but... dammit... the music, the chessboard, the gravitas, they certainly set him up to be the guy to get the answers.
Also agree that Bucky being remotely willing to face that guy again is a huge deal. And we don't have Steve around to pull his helicopters out of the sky this time in case things go wonky. I suppose we'll see just how good Shuri's abilities to rewire Bucky's brain actually are.
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Steve wasn't a good soldier. He was a good man. That was the whole fucking point. And the best things he did were without permission. He chased down the Hydra agent single-handedly and prevented Hydra from taking what was left of Erskine's formula but was then told that he wasn't enough. So they dressed him up in tights and sent him on the road to sell war bonds... because he looked the part. But we all know what happened... he got wind that Bucky was in trouble and he went to Go. Get. His. Man!!
I did find the parallels interesting between Steve and John. Steve was not military, John is highly decorated. John practicing his lines took me back to Steve with his lines taped to the back of his prop shield. And you just see Bucky's fury at all of it... because Steve wasn't Captain America because he had the shield and the suit. He was Captain America because he told the entire US military to go piss up a rope to go save the friend who always had his back. He was Captain America because he could do this all day. And he would. So this... GUY... wearing a suit and saying all the right words and having his military career highlighted and having a sidekick with a ridiculous name is just too god damn much. "I read The Hobbit when it first came out! What are you even talking about with this BATTLESTAR bullshit!!"
And yet... the real moment came when Bucky took Sam to task for giving up the shield. 'Steve believed in you. Steve trusted you. He gave that shield to you and you just threw it away. So maybe he was wrong about you and if he was wrong about you then he was wrong about me!'
I mean, that just gutted me because that goes back to everything Steve went through to save Bucky... repeatedly. "I'm not sure I'm worth all of this, Steve."
Sam and Bucky feeling like they can't live up to Steve's belief in them when all that mattered to Steve was that they just be who they are.
Excuse me while I go cry in a corner for a million years.
Sam did what he thought was right and said so. Honestly? I believe Steve would accept that.
John Walker relegating them both to Steve's wingmen... GAAAAAAH! (There are some verbal affectations Wyatt comes out with that are so Kurt Russel they make me jump a little. It's amazing.) Steve would be the first to say that they are both heroes in their own right. STEVE CHOSE SAM TO TAKE THE SHIELD, YOU ASS! SAM IS NOT YOUR WINGMAN!!!!
I was full on blown away that they had Isaiah in the show. That was some powerful shit. Bucky taking Sam there to show him that he absolutely COULD be Captain America and, oh yeah, that serum has in fact been around for awhile. I, too, wonder which one it was. Obviously not Erskine's, as they've never been able to replicate that but Hydra was a part of Shield for a LONG time and while it's easy to say 'Oh it was Hydra that locked Isaiah up and experimented on him' we know it didn't have to be Hydra. And it likely wasn't. It's very on brand for the United States government to use persons of color as guinea pigs so that a white person can get the benefit in the end.
*grinds teeth*
I found it very interesting that Bucky never told Steve about Isaiah. Steve would have been FURIOUS. Maybe would have dismantled another institution in his rage over what was done to Isaiah.
Holy shit, did Zemo get an entrance or WHAT?!
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41 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:
I would agree. I don't really see a big deal on the age gap, I know plenty of couples with 10 year gaps and it's not always the men that are older. 😁
I, personally, would have no problem with the age gap between myself and Chris Evans and I would be the older in that almost 9 year age gap. My brother's wife is 9 years younger than him. My uncle married my aunt who is also nine years younger than him. They all met when that age gap really didn't make a difference. It's one thing, I feel, when you've got an 18 year old with a 27-28 year old because, man, the changes one goes through in those ten years after you 'legally' become an adult.
Bucky's date was awkward and weird because he's wildly out of practice interacting with people in a non-combative situation and he's got so much baggage attached to him it's shocking he isn't surrounded by a team of porters at all times. Poor little dumpster fire.
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Not everyone looks good in hats, either. Chris Evans just happens to have The Face that can wear the helmet. Maybe that’s why they worked so hard to woo him to play the role. Also, you know, they tailor made those outfits For Him. I would definitely say that part of the role of Not Cap is that he just doesn’t look right in the role.
Sam might not look right in the helmet, either, but the difference is that STEVE chose Sam as his successor very specifically because Sam would be his own man. Bearded Government Dickweed wants someone to be Captain America to take Steve’s place but you can’t replace Steve Rogers. That’s the whole point and I dare say Steve would be the first to say ‘do your own thing, I’m not asking you to be me.’
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We first saw the drone Redwing in Civil War. I get it, it works for the set up they have in the MCU but I am That Dork who loves comics!Sam being able to talk to birds and that he has an a hawk companion he can communicate telepathically with.
And Pet Avengers was hilarious. Especially when they met Power Pack.
ANYWAY... yes we have seen MCU Redwing before.
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I want to know when and how Sam gets the shield back. Trailers show them both practicing with it and it looks like they’re in New Orleans while doing so. I’m super curious about that one. I hope Sam gets a chance to tell Bearded Government Dickweed to “shut the hell up” if he tries to raise a stink about it too.
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11 minutes ago, festivus said:
When I say they, it means I've never seen anything from Marvel that says Steve's ending is problematic. If anyone connected did, point me to it.
No, I haven't seen anything in that regard from Marvel, either. Nor do I expect to. I mean, the writers and the Russos couldn't seem to agree on what Steve going back actually meant to the timeline but neither expressed regret for his ending.
I do appreciate them going there regarding the Snap. But, again, I do wonder what happened to Old Steve. Sam referred to Steve in the past tense during his speech. That could be part of the 'Steve is Gone' mystique as well as letting Old Steve retire without a lot of spotlight on him. I can't imagine we'll get nothing from Bucky... but how much? An 'I miss Steve?' An 'I wish Steve were still with us?' I don't know.
But obviously this is going to be more along the lines of Sam and Bucky finding their own place in the New World Order and no longer being under Steve's shadow. So I don't know how much bitterness either one is going to express.
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Look, I don't like Steve's ending but I think it was obvious that he AT LEAST told Bucky. They may have been waiting but as Bruce kept counting, Bucky looked resigned and started walking away. He knew. Even his goodbye to Steve... the throwback to their first before Bucky headed off to war... was indicative that he knew Steve wasn't coming back.
And as much as I HATE that ending... neither Sam nor Bucky would say a god damn thing about Steve deciding to stay. I think it's bullshit and it goes against everything I know about Steve but both of those guys would say 'yes, Steve... you've done enough. Go and be happy for once in your life.'
I mean, my head canon is that Steve is still around and going to art school and stuff and, yes, continuing to be a friend to both of them (because I love Steve so so much and that's just me) but that doesn't necessarily mean that he can solve all the problems. Let me think about how Steve handled shit when he came out of the ice... ummm... not great. He punched things. A lot. That was his therapy. And I can't even say it worked all that well. And then aliens invaded and he punched those things. And then he worked for SHIELD and punched things. And then he didn't work for SHIELD and punched things.
Okay, to be fair, he also kicked things.
I also wonder what happened to Old Steve. I'd LIKE to think that he hung around a bit to talk to Bucky, talk him through things, maybe say 'look, punching and kicking isn't the best way to handle trauma, perhaps accept that there are other options?' But... even though Steve's shadow hangs over this, this is no longer his story.
It's Sam's and it's Bucky's. I have to make my peace with no Steve (and it ain't easy for more reasons than New Guy can't wear a helmet) in the midst of all that but I'm also happy to get some focus on these guys. Even if Steve's shadow leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
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I don't know that I'd necessarily hold it against Sam for doing what he had to do in order to take care of his family. They never clarified what Steve's monetary situation was but he basically got pulled out of the ice and directly into SHIELD's custody. Then he wound up on Tony's dime (along with everyone else presumably) and then he went fugitive. After the Snap, it seemed that he and Natasha were living at the Avenger's compound? And presumably no one was going to tell them no? Not even Tony at that point who was living at the lake. It makes sense that he'd have been able to get back pay given that he was likely never declared dead just MIA but who knows?
Basically, if Sam decided to go for a Nike endorsement in order to take care of himself, his sister and her kids... to help their business... I don't think that makes him less a hero. And Sam's current position is one worth questioning. He WAS in the military and he left to become a civilian and he worked at the VA. Steve and Nat needing help was all Sam needed to 'get back in.' So... is he officially military again? Apparently not since his status doesn't seem to be official and he does... what, independent contracting? Besides, the 'you don't have a regular paycheck from that time you were 'blipped' so tough noogies' is such bullshit.
I mean, if he were kicking back showing off his many houses that he bought due to his endorsements on the rebooted 'Cribs' I suppose that might be one thing. Trying to save his sister's business and make sure she and her kids aren't sweating it out every day to make ends meet? I'm more than fine with that. Hell, do more than one endorsement and get his sister and her kids a really nice house and set aside money for them to go to college. I'm perfectly fine with that, too. Because it's SAM. SAM is a hero.
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2 minutes ago, festivus said:
Bucky probably has to still have some family descendants around but I can see him feeling he isn't worthy enough to contact them. It would be cool to see down the line though.
Uh, people are upset that he went on a date? Remind me to stay away from that corner of the internet. He's as baffled by online dating as I would be and I'm only half his age 😆
On a date with a woman. Like I said, those small parts of fandom are gonna fandom and if they only like Seb in 'sad gay boy' roles then that's a them problem.
I did feel kinda bad for the woman because it did seem like Bucky just up and left the date without a word. At the same time, post Snap is anyone a good date? 'Hey you're really nice for hanging out with Yuri. Let's talk about death for awhile, huh?'
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Any time they show the Winter Soldier in action I sit there wondering why anyone ever referred to him as 'a ghost.' He pulls people through walls, leaves a path of bodies behind him and gets rid of innocent bystanders by blowing their brains out at close range. Oooo... he's like the wind! Who was that? Was someone here? The only evidence is these fifteen dead bodies! What could have possibly happened?!
That tank was like a ghost! Said no one ever.
Hydra's clean up crews are the unsung heroes of the Winter Soldier's enigmatic reputation, I guess.
Sam. Man... I love the issues he's dealing with. I really do. I love the look into his family, his sister, his desire to hold on. I suspect that desire to hold onto the things their family had was only heightened after the Snap. (I can't call it the blip. That's weird to me.) I did love watching Sam fight, though. He kicked ass! And I loved his talk with Rhodey, too. I hope we see Rhodey again because I love Don Cheadle but, also, Rhodey's one of the few we know who DID survive the Snap. I think there are connections that could be made between him and Sam AND him and Bucky that could be good. But I'm not going to count on it too much.
Part of fandom being what they are... I find myself rolling my eyes a lot at some of the outrage of Bucky going on a date (look, I'm so on board the Steve/Bucky train it's ridonk but I also came years later and I've never let a silly thing like canon get me down so I'm not excessively bothered by a lot of it.) It's just funny to me. I hated Steve's ending more than some out there but I also understand the logistics of it.
Also, the idea of Steve being so mythologized that there are rumors he's looking down on all of us from the moon makes me laugh.
And can we acknowledge Chris Evans' beautiful head that wore a helmet so so so very well? Wyatt Russell is not an unpleasant looking man but not everyone can don the helmet, y'know? I mean, seeing someone else that Steve did not very specifically pick holding the shield is bad enough... but putting on the helmet and looking weird and dorky? Dude.
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Okay, okay, I'm not made of stone, people. It sounds like they're digging into places I've wanted them to go for a long time and they didn't really have the time to do so before because MOVIES. Now that the herd has been thinned out after the first several phases of MCU they've got some time to dig into some characters a little more.
I still hate Steve's ending in Endgame and wish he were just off in art school while Sam and Bucky take over the super heroing but it's interesting to me that they're delving into Sam's history and recognizing that the blip would be the thing that Steve would have been able to help most with. And Bucky should get some depth too... he's been the MacGuffin for two movies so being an actual character will be a nice change for him.
I was always in but I was so surprised by WV that I wanted to continue down the weird path. Still... there's no reason not to expect some weird here, too.
(Please don't make Sharon a love interest. Please don't make Sharon a love interest. Please don't make Sharon a love interest. Just let her be cool and awesome.)
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Yeah, I don't believe Wanda really understood what was going on until the absolute end. She never got a full picture herself. She didn't think she was controlling anyone. She thought she had created a place where everyone could be happy -- she didn't separate families, their 'core personalities' remained unchanged, they had better jobs, at least that's how Fietro put it but, then again, he was puppeted by Agatha.
She basically dove into this world she didn't fully realize she even made because it was a balm for the grief. And yes, she fought against the initial invasions of that perfect world like the 'beekeeper' and Vision saying he felt there was something wrong. Vision and Fietro pointing things out really confused her and then, yes, got her back up... because I get the concept of having your dream come true being not what you thought it was.
The thing is, none of this was pre-meditated and there was no evil intent. When she came face to face with the reality, of the various people telling her what they were actually going through she was horrified, she lashed out again and then tried to let them go. And ultimately, took the whole thing down and in doing so, lost it all again. It appears the hex lasted about a week, maybe slightly more. I'm not saying a week is nothing but the vast majority of that time, Wanda didn't know she was hurting anyone else. And she didn't seem to think she was controlling anyone, either. When Vision confronted her in the 80s she was pretty adamant about not being able to control everyone everywhere and from what I could see, she honestly believed that.
Then you have Monica who remained sympathetic the whole time while Agatha only wanted to figure out how Wanda did it so she could have that information for herself. I know there are a few who think Agatha is the hero. I disagree. Agatha wanted Wanda's power. The episode where we went through Wanda's life wasn't Agatha giving her therapy. It was Agatha dissecting Wanda -- against her will -- just as surely as SWORD had been dissecting Vision. For her own gain. "I absorb the magic of the unworthy... it's my thing." I can't say Agatha is someone I would trust regarding who is or isn't worthy. She certainly had no problem taking Ralph and turning him into her own meat puppet and she very clearly didn't want Monica talking Wanda down or getting through to her before Agatha could get Wanda's secrets first. She certainly didn't free anyone in Westview because it was the right thing to do or out of the goodness of her heart... she did it to get at Wanda.
Wanda is right that her motivations or what she lost wouldn't change how the people of Westview see her. And that's as it should be. But Monica also understood what she would have done with the same powers. Wanda went off to learn about her powers which will, indeed, make her more dangerous but also likely to not make inadvertent pocket worlds. I don't see Wanda as a villain although obviously people's mileage varies on that.
Agatha? Yes, I'd say so. Hayward? Absolutely yes. But I don't see Wanda as evil.
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Richard Simmons should have been way more active and emotional. Yes, he did used to run around like crazy but more than that he would always talk about how overweight he was and how exercise saved him and would start weeping along with whomever he was talking to when he listened to their struggles with weight. There was a lot more to be done there.
For Bob Ross... 'happy little accidents' 'happy little trees' talking about Alaska and the animals he would nurse back to health, use that soft soft voice and how everyone can use a friend, even a tree can use a friend and then, out of nowhere, 'beat the devil out of it' as that's what he says when he's cleaning his brushes. Utica turned Bob into some rando weirdo from Sheboygan who might very well be a serial killer.
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10 hours ago, Kromm said:
My big fear is that this could feel like a letdown after WandaVision.
I mean there will be infinitely more action, but that could work against it if the rest of it doesn't come off as clever.
Maybe knowing Loki follows it will be enough. Kind of staggering the mind fucks and the more traditional stuff.
That's where I'm at. I have been absolutely loving the weirdness of WandaVision from jump when we started getting the first teasers of it. I was all in on Falcon and Winter Soldier because... yes! Sam and Bucky! Woo! But WandaVision grabbed me and I love the way it's developed.
I'm not expecting weird in FatWS. Even though I would die of happiness if Sam developed the ability to talk to birds I know this is not remotely likely to happen. Alas. And I have my own personal feelings about Cap's ending to deal with, too. So, yeah... but Zemo and the idea of a legacy of Cap does spark interest and how the two guys closest to him deal with that legacy as well.
I do want a deeper dive into Sam, though. I really hope we get that. He deserves it.
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Well, I found the soundtrack of the show on Spotify and I am just in a very happy place right now. Not just with all the theme song versions through the decades but the commercial music and the various hits and ambient music. For example, 'Daydream Believer' is playing right now and, come on, it's just wonderful.
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8 hours ago, Llywela said:
Agreed. Our 5-year-old adores Into the Spiderverse and had no trouble wrapping her brain around the concept of multiple universes. She added a whole bunch of quite scientific words to her vocabulary after watching!
When I showed my niece Cap: Winter Soldier and was explaining the brainwashing, she recalled the storyline from Avatar: The Last Airbender with the Earth Nation brainwashing some of it's citizens. Animation opens all sorts of doors for the younger audience to grasp concepts.
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S01.E03: Power Broker
in The Falcon And The Winter Soldier
Walker doesn't strike me as remotely super powered right now. A highly skilled individual? Yes. Like Sam, Clint or Natasha. But I wonder if the opportunity will arise for him to take it... hard to say. At any rate, in the 2nd episode when Sam and Bucky brought up the fact that who they fought seemed to be powered by the Serum, Walker and Hoskins both seemed VERY surprised. And neither character has been established as being particularly good actors.