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Yes and even during the final two seasons. It was talked more on how Jill becoming a psychologist would be the first REAL career she had outside the magazine. Point out to classmate she hung around in the last two seasons and even to Wilson a few times. We were just lead to believe she couldn't hold a job down. However, why? The magazine kick just didn't make sense by then Jill had been there for two years and lost her job because some blonde with big boobs and a PhD got hired. Which makes no sense? Waitress, I could see because those are large turn overs when managers take over or you are top one year and down another year. Budget cuts happen from lost of business or higher salaries. I lost two jobs in the last three years due to budget, my performances were stellar and my former superiors gave me glowing reviews for job interviews, but it came down to paying me a higher price or dividing it up and doing it cheaper. Three jobs about 14 years ago, two I really screwed up with. I lost them and it was my fault, the last was due to being blamed for someone else's performance, which I attested was not me. They gave the other person the benefit of the doubt because they were their longer. Then when they fired me, not even a week passed and they saw that the same problem was happening and finally realized, I was right and the other person was lazy. However, they didn't bother calling me back and apologizing. I found out a month later from my mother who knew one of the managers and she was not happy with how they treated me, but they didn't want to admit they were wrong and did nothing and told my mom to tell me they were sorry. I get shows do this over the course of a series, they go long and writers either don't pay attention to previous episodes or they just hype up a characters traits. Alan on Two and a Half Men, Diane or Carla on Cheers. Emily on Gilmore Girls, ect. Some shows catch and go: "Yeah, we need to stop doing that." Big Bang Theory is a grand example as they ended up having characters own up to their issues and even wrote things to fix them. Hodge is a grand example and so is Sheldon. Home Improvement fell into that trap and Jill was the main character who really became a very hateful character by the end of the series. Tim and Al got into some major personality issues and Wilson started being oblivious to life outside his house to the point you wonder how he lived to that point in his life.

You also get Beckly's reaction too. She says it perfectly: "You pushed your family away... again, I hope you are happy." I don't think she knew what happened either, or the fact Scrooge couldn't tell her all the work he put into finding Dela. The Vultures all know and the way it was depicted, they realized at one point, that there was no point anymore and why he gets dragged away in the flashback. They were trying to tell him he tried, he spent all the money he could and there was no more of a point. Donald didn't even know how much Scrooge was trying to find his sister and Donald had a perfect reason for walking away. This leads perfectly to see how Scrooge just gives Lena the Dime in the previews. He doesn't care and at that point he is basically: "Sure, have it for a bit, who cares." Until Magica makes her reappearance.

Funny with the plastic surgery episode in season 3. How did Tim get a "perfect" circle form his round sander? Al is right, you don't sand in one spot, but when Heidi gives Tim the sander, it's just a bigger sander. Tim doesn't say he rewired it, even with all the saw dust getting kicked up, sanders don't create smoke screens like that. So, to after what? maybe 6 seconds he not only creates a hole in the middle of the table, but it apparent had the hole fall in. Tim isn't shown that he went right through the table. Al just stops him and the hole is the side of a chair. Later when Tim says he used Al's credit card, how did he do that? Plus, that's fraud, all Al have to do was say: "I did not make those charges and my card disappeared yesterday." Also, when he yells at Tim for not reimburse him, why would Tim be in charge of that? You turn in receipts to either finance or book keeping for reimbursement. Plus, they wouldn't give him the money that day and I doubt that Al plaid like $50 in cash, which yes, finance would give him his money back right away. However, I doubt Al spent less than $200 for three wooden tables and I'm talking REAL wood tables not fake: "Here, please take these crappy tables from me for $10." Al acted like he paid a month's worth of rent for them.

It was really in season 3 we started seeing Jill having more of a "I'm right and I know better"attitude. Granted, it was always there, but you saw it more. The real pieces of it is when she is at the magazine more and doesn't like how Tim is handling things at home. They could have handled it more with Jill working that it's a classic: "Stayed at home and then re entered the working world and the kids didn't know what it was like to have both parents gone" scenario. However, that didn't work later on when Jill talked about her previous jobs when Bud first showed up on the show. I see it more that Jill worked before Brad was born. Then was off for a bit and then lost her job as a result since early 80s, woman really didn't have maternity leave then. My own mother would attest to that. Then was in between a few jobs until Randy was born and they moved into the house. I see Jill was really home for a few years after Mark was born. Tim was still a tool salesman for Binford. Since the time line was that Tool Time didn't start until two years before the series started, which would be around 1989. However, when Jill was working again, she got with a very: "I know better than you because I was home while you were working, but I can't be my mother." So, what happened to Jill? She turned around and started being like her father, with a take charge and never admit he was wrong. However, where Jill's family catered to Fred's demands. Tim and everyone kept telling Jill she was wrong and even pointed out when she was wrong and backed it up. Yet, she couldn't have that. She had to be right, plus when Jill went back to school, that ate up more time. I mean, home work, library assignments (no internet or online portfolios then), group assignments and we had Jill joining a book club, yet she gets mad when Tim isn't focusing on the boys more. I was glad by season 6 that stopped, because by then, the boys were so much older and you know, wanted to do things. Of course the Ohio trip, Jill gets mad that the boys don't want to hang with her anymore.

Problem with the dry wall episode when Tim adds more mix to the plaster and it falls down on Al. He didn't really spray that much on the ceiling. Plus, yes, too much water will make it drip, but it was like the entire ceiling came down on Al. Plus, if Tim has mixed that much plaster before and wasn't listening to Al. Wouldn't he have known that it's too heavy and would fall down? Same goes back to the original Bob Villa episode. Why were those circuits still plugged in? I mean Al says: "Did you make sure first it was off?" There is no light and Tim doesn't know basic wires? He uses a screw driver? Tim was asking to get zapped and really WHY IS IT ON?

I'm seeing now how we are leading to the 1 hour finale now. I also see season 2 being about them trying to find out what happened to Delia and also what happened with the other explorers. Where did they all go? I get now why the Vultures were on Scrooge so much.

I just figured that Heidi worked between both shows. Of course this is never expanded on especially at the award show for Halloween. Heidi is there, but if Cooking with Irma was getting all these awards. Why wasn't Heidi getting them too? It's kind of confusing. As for Jill mad that Tim split the boys up and didn't let her in. Seriously, I didn't see it going much different. Randy only admitted what was really bothering him when they separation happened. Plus, as we saw, nothing really changed. They still got in fights, Mark was now upset since he was with Randy not in his own room. Problem with having more than one kid and you can't have separate rooms for them. They are going to fight more than usual especially when they get older. I mean both Jill and Tim admitted they had the same problem with their siblings since they were in the middle and not the oldest of their families. The problem is, they could have built a new room then and the writers didn't really do much except for 2 episodes later with Mark hoping to get his old room back. I think by they time we get around season 5, the writers realized that the boys were so much older and they could finally have Tim do something for a 3rd room. Which I think worked better when all the boys had their own room later on. They could be themselves, still fought and still hung out when they could. Looking back, it just makes Jill look like she just wanted to be the hero who came in and rescued the boys, when really. Nothing would have changed.

Interesting that when Al has his hand in the duck when he was filling in for Cooking with Irma. He hand was all the way in. I know Tim was trying to tell Al he read not to over stuff a duck because it can cause a problem. However, Al's right hand is really in there and why isn't he wearing two gloves instead of one? Plus, how did a raw duck break a plate glass window? I also notice that Tim and Al don't wear gloves a lot of times when they should. They wear them during the dry wall episode, but when Tim got his hand stuck to the toilet because he was seeing if it was getting tacky why isn't he wearing gloves? Same when Al was working on paint for a few episodes talking about not getting oil base paint on your hands. WEAR GLOVES!

Seeing the Cooking with Irma and the Dry Wall Episode, I don't get who Heidi was working for at times. She is dressed as the Tool Time Girl and then she is all in a chef suit and hat and introducing Irma and had apparently been doing it for a while. I also wonder why would a cooking show have strictly women in the audience? Of course it also goes back to why Heidi had her own parking spot and was given more money if she was on two shows.

I don't know how having that hair shave and long hair over it look in it's last season made Kristin look younger. Made her look older and didn't reflect Ryan's bearded hippy self. The problem now is since Tim Allen is 65 and Nancy Travis is about to turn 57 and now they are having Boyd be 12 that puts them around 53 and 45 when Boyd was born. Like I said, even if they try to say that Kristin and Ryan are 30 and were 18 when Boyd was born. The time lines just don't work anymore and if they want Mandy and Eve (when she appears) bring up how they had Boyd in high school. It has no value anymore, because having Kristin with purple hair and Ryan with his constantly beard make them look like they are in their mid to late 30s now. Bring up a story line that was missed that now they have been married and have good jobs and a house. Why did they never think about more children? Why haven't Kyle and Mandy had a kid by now? They are saying that Kyle and Mandy are now in their home that was built on the land that Kyle's mother left him. Eve is is off in the air force. They are forcing this chineese "cousin Oliver" to get a high school kid back on the show. This is screaming, they are just trying to keep the show on the air instead of a revival.

I see it happening it something like this with ABC: "Well, yes LMS and Dr. Ken are doing good in the ratings, but CBS and NBC are beating us out on those ratings." "Comedies on Fridays just don't work like they did 20 years ago. It's getting expensive with these shows and LMS ratings are dropping." "Let's just pull the plug and maybe we will also avoid any possible political issues since Trump is now the president." Tim Allen: "Wait, after over 20 years of calling this network home you are getting rid of my show when we are doing fine? You just don't like my conservative views." Flash forward a year later with Fox: "We heard that ABC is bringing back their TGIF since their drama night crashed and burned. Let's bring LMS back, it's going to cost a lot of money, but let's do it." Tim Allen has a meeting and they slide him the cost to bring back the show and what ABC was paying. Tim Allen: "Wow! That is a lot of change, maybe it was over finances, but ABC could have just given us the figures months earlier and not just pulled the plug first."

I agree, both Brad and Randy's first girlfriends felt very realistic. Even later on when Brad went out with Ashley. That was Brad knowing he had to act and actually had a serious relationship. Same with Randy with Lauren. She wasn't ready, but when she was they progressed pretty naturally. Even when Lauren was leaving for Costa Rica originally, they really said they loved each other and Randy was upset. Even when he returned at Christmas saying how it wasn't what he expected. That him and Lauren were still good, but they really couldn't spend much time together and he gets home and everything had changed too. Even Mark's first crush made sense, it didn't go right, which was nice because that was real too and when the series ended he said it best: "New school, new people, new girls."

Oh I know, why would Al have the lamp plugged in. He didn't need to have it in to prove his point. Sometimes I felt like Al set Tim up to get hurt or cause an accident. Let's face it, why would Tim think the lamp was plugged in? What is a stage crew member was moving the lamp over and accidentally touched the broken bulb? Same goes for Al's switch to the Rose costume in the season 3 episode. Did they have a double already dressed in a gorilla costume with flannel so all Al had to do was switch out. Get to the garage, not trigger the skeleton and then change into the Rose costume. I get that Tim was distracted, but the time for Al change into a completely different costume and then have it where the skeleton dropped and put the rose in it's mouth and then run upstairs to wait for Tim in the bathroom. It defies the laws of physics just like Wilson's disappearing act in the final Halloween episode. Without multiple help or people dressed up in multiple costumes. You can't move that fast from a first floor garage and as we saw most people at the party were not in on the joke. Not even the boys. Just like I don't get how in season 7 how Jill and Tim snuck back in to get things set up to scare Brad and Randy. They not only got back in the house, but changed into regular clothes out of their costumes.

The article said it perfectly, shows are having such a hard time getting stable shows. Doesn't matter if its comedy or drama. Agents of SHIELD was pretty much wrapped up this season, but was renewed last minute since there was nothing to replace it with since Once Upon a Time ended and their "drama" night which is why Last Man Standing and Dr. Ken were cancelled a year ago crashed and burned. Now, they are trying to bring back TGIF. However, when they try to pull shows out when they have nothing else to air, it becomes about a paycheck for the actors and the writers prove they don't have anything left in the tank. We shall see. I have to admit if either Ed O'Neil or any of the main adult characters choose not to return for an 11th season. ABC better realize that the kids of the characters can't carry the show. Especially when the writers prove they don't know how to write them.

How true, Why I have been more active in the Home Improvement forum lately. Having the episodes airing on LAFF and other networks since everything happened with Roseanne. However, when you look back in seeing all the episodes together. You start to see things stick out more and do wonder: "What were they thinking?" From trying to look like it was being culturally aware to "what's hot right now". With the show coming back, they are saying that they will address what happened with the character in the year and half the show was gone. Yet, they are going to not only recast Mandy and Boyd. One due to conflicts of schedule and the other because they "want to do new stories with Boyd". Yet the show is going about it the wrong way. They are saying that a 1 and a half has gone by. Yet, they are saying Boyd is now 12, when he was 8 when the series left ABC. The show was so wanting to push Vanessa as smart, but then dumbed her down to no degree. Now, they are having her bring in a foreign exchange student from a completely political piece because they feel that Ryan and Mike should just be over each other now and focus more on Ryan and Kristin as parents and not pissing off someone. It's again with: "Let's see what sticks because we got bored with the other writing."

How much politics will be talked on Last Man Standing Revival What did Amanda Fuller do to her hair now? I'm going to laugh at McCook as the new Mandy compare to Fuller. Since she is 5'5 and McCook is 5'10 and the Kaitlyn who plays Eve is only 5'4. Also interesting now that Tim Allen does see it being more financial on why ABC cancelled the show since it cost more to get on Fox to revive the series. Which is why CMN passed on the show revival originally.

I agree, it's not like this is a 16 year old trying to ask the girl he likes out, who refuses for various reasons. That's the problem with TV shows like GG who have writers who don't know how to date in their adult lives than teen years. They think it's charming and cute, but if you look at it, people who do this in real life are just as you described. They got writing Jason confused with how they wrote Jess. Of course, with Jess it came off he was being an asshole about things, not a stalker or anything, but a high schooler who doesn't' get what he is doing is wrong, but it's a maturity thing. With Jason, he couldn't buy a clue on his behavior. Not able to sleep with in the same bed due to him being a light sleeper. Ok, happens, people talk about it all the time. However, you got someone who won't buy a clue, a zombie dog and then the fact his father was about to hand him a company and a job that he actually was good at, in fact very GOOD at and he's all: "No, sorry, don't want to be like you dad." The show wanted him both ways. To be smart and charming and he comes off with unable to buy a clue and other women would be calling their lawyer for a restraining order.

Are they going to dye her hair, because where is Mandy's blonde hair going to come from. Also, they will have to change Mandy's personality, because McCook is more mean spirited with joke delivery. As for Jet, well, hmm... this is like the original recasting of Kristin, Ryan and Boyd II all over again. I was also doing some checks online, so both James Marsdon and Amanda Fuller are 33 almost 34. So, they would have had Boyd in their early 20s and not high school if they are making him 12 now, which is how old Jet is in real life. I get playing younger, but if they want to continue that Boyd was born right as Kristin was done with high school. They have to say Kristin is 29-30.

How true and it even brings up the tank driving episode. I remember when the episode originally aired, my stepfather who was in the army was watching it. He said it was realistic that Tim couldn't control the tank. They are not easy to drive, he told me he had the worst time driving it to. Also, they have a safety driver the first few times, similar to a driver's ed teacher who has an extra foot brake on their side. To see Jill perfectly drive the tank he said was impossible too. Even if she had beginner's luck, she had no experience and never had a taste of driving military equipment. He didn't care who her father was suppose to be, you can't just take a child to a military base and have them drive any vehicle they choose. He thought the jokes were great, but he ranks that episode as the most impossible piece with the only realistic part being that Tim was out of control with a tank. They just would have never gotten outside of the tank course. The lawsuits from the golf course would have been huge.

I'm still trying to figure out how Tim was trying to triple the heat lantern at the ice fishing shed. I mean, what did he do? Poke more holes in it? Throw in more sticks or oil? The way it erupted in fire didn't make sense. Especially when Al asked if Tim put out the heater. You could see it was out and then magically it turns into a fire bomb. Also, nice to know that they stuck around to see it burn to the ground and then went home. Also, when Lillian pulled the dip stick out of the hot rod engine. Why did she do that? She kept looking at the car like: "What do I do?" "Oh, let me pull the stick and then assume that Jill and Tim are having intimacy problems."

Something that really makes you wonder between Tim and Jill is when Tim really tries to do things for Jill and it not only goes wrong, but he doesn't try to fix it right away. I remember in Blown UP when he blows up Jill's driver licenses because he can't find any pictures of Jill because she "hid" all the photo albums. I wanted to go: "Who would do that and it wouldn't be Jill." Jill loved photo albums and was always trying to put pictures together. Yet, here she hid everything when Tim needed a picture, plus it was a surprise, all Tim had to do was not use the picture. Instead he goes; "It looks horrible, but yeah, let's just use it because I don't have any choice." Yet, he finds a nice photo of her later on and boy that is some photo studio in the mid 90s that can blow up a photo that fast. Similar to Tim messing up the ice fishing for Al by using the sanitize that smelled like saw dust. Constantly using it, I can understand, but it was more that they kept re doing the bait on the poles. Plus, Tim and Al were both constantly fishermen growing up. Al just did more ice fishing and yet none of them knew the smell of bait rule with fish? Also, no one else checked in on Al if Wilson said there were so many people ice fishing and had too many fish? Also, what did Tim do to get the heater to ignite like that? He punch holes in it? It was one of those times during the show where it was to paint Tim like an idiot instead of: "Oh, you know, this might not be a good idea and it's literally staring him in the face." Just like the bumping his head on the basement pipe over the course of the series.

It's funny, during the Great Race, first is when Tim activates the jet engine is not only how fast it goes. That when he drives through the sign, there are no wood chips or pieces that get caught on Tim when we see him an hour later. Also, when Jill says the radio reported an "guy going 54 mpg down the high way on a lawn mower." Then Tim saying how he got a speeding ticket and made enough money to pay said ticket off by mowing lawns. So, how did people pay him? How did they even get him to mow the various lawns and stop Tim. Tim would had to either slow down or stopped the lawn mower. Especially if the police gave him a speeding ticket. You think they be more of: "Sir are you ok? Your lawnmower seems out of control." Instead we are to believe that Tim couldn't control his lawnmower to the point he ran off the retirement race course and onto the main road and couldn't control it for a while. Plus, that much power, how did the lawnmower not run out of gas faster?

Luke would have been contacted, when you have a student that is about to fail after taking a major dip due to skipping school or as Jess put it: "Mickey Mouse Stuff" where they are going to not graduate. Luke would have had several phone calls. Now, him not returning them or even if Jess was magically getting the messages and deleting them. It wasn't like Luke wasn't close by and the way they were making it sound. Jess probably was the only person who didn't graduate that year. Schools don't like it when a set of students don't graduate, their numbers drop and the state looks at that stuff. Now, sure it could be like 4 kids that don't graduate due to: having a kid, unforeseen circumstances, expulsion due to lighting up pot in the bathroom, ect. Then the records show to the state and unless it's a reoccurring situation and the parents/guardians are shown to be pretty straight forward people. Not having a parent passed out or high at home or the students are living in a car. The state then just goes; "Guess, it was a bad year." In this case and shows how rushed the writing was to get the spin off series. It was: "Jess didn't see the point of school until he found out he couldn't graduate, didn't like any other options from repeating to summer school. Pouted about it and then said screw it I'm going to go live with the father I barely know and I hope everyone dies."

Bless Me Bagpipes on that one.

Same could be said for Dean, when Luke found out that Jess was skipping school and had for months, you are really expecting us to believe that Dean didn't say to Rory along the lines of: "Jess, hasn't been in school." I also liked when the principal was telling Jess they knew he was skipping school and that they tried to contact him. I wanted to go: "What about Luke." He was hugely in the dark. Plus, I'm sure by that point word that Jess was at Walmart would have come up and someone could have gone to Walmart and seen that Jess was there at school. They acted like Jess's skipping wasn't important until it needed to be talked about. Even the Walmart manager told Luke: "Oh, he figured out someway to do the hours." Which makes me think, when Jess left Stars Hollow to be with Jimmy. I'm betting they just went: "Well, that kid was a bit of an ass. Great worker, but an ass. Oh well, ok Roll Back in Automotive!" I also think it was stupid of AS-P trying to get the spin off when they had filmed the episode and had 4 scripts and the studio said: "Can't do it, too expensive." AS-P wanted to keep pushing for months and when one of the studio execs threw a script in the trash, she finally got the picture.