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Yes, I felt like Al set himself up for Scooter to get injured. Also, landing in wet cement isn't really good for anyone. Once that starts to dry it can feel like having a super mud pack on you and it starts to burn. Now, granted Dana saw things were fine with Scooter and was just going to soak Scooter with the rest of the cement eventually just dissolving. I don't really blame Tim, he didn't know what to do. The boys had hamsters growing up, they stayed in cages in their room. You have your co-worker say that their mother's pet turtle is acting depress and putting him where Al can be scene. Tim didn't think he be knocked back by the pounder, because he knew how to run them. Also, if you at what was happening, Tim was doing fine and then when he stepped back it magically started going faster and then he was knocked back towards Scooter. Going forward a bit to Ian showing up as the granite guy in his second appearance. How long was it taking him to redo their kitchen? Ian might have not known how to keep his horniness to himself. However, he was taking a little TOO long on those counters. It was just two main counters that weren't that long. If he was SO Good, that job would have taken him two days at the worst. He acted like he was making the David statue.
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That's the problem, because it means that it was Al that had the problem all those years if Alma thought they were funny too. Which means that Alma knew who she was, she knew she was unhealthy, over ate and knew she had Al and Cal on a short list because they were so loyal to her thanks to their father. That means too things, that not only do they know who they are, they understand to others it seems odd, but they laugh along with them. Which is a good thing, they accept who they are. However, when they also know that they can snap their fingers and have people obey them without question. That's not a good thing. What if Alma wanted Al to pay her bills at the possibility of Al or Cal going into debt? Yet, playing the: "I'm your mother" card. Then that's a problem. Like I said, Alma dying and Al and Trudy getting married was always the plan for season 8. They were not expecting it to be their last. So, they shifted things around to fit in with the Taylors leaving Michigan thanks to Morgan screwing up Tool Time. The finale was always planned on Al and Trudy getting married, but it wasn't suppose to be in the backyard or with Wilson officating. That was written later. The main plot points when the writers were doing season 8 was: "Brad will suffer and injury and question if he will go to college." "Al and Trudy will get married, but Al's mother will die in the middle." "Jill will FINALLY finish school." They had to fit in JTT wanting to leave the show and bringing Marty, the Twins and Jeff on the show more regularly later. Marty was suppose to live with Tim and Jill for the foreseeable future until the show was going to end. Why they had Marty moving on in his life and getting his own place again. I do wish we would have seen Rick and John the other two brothers. They were mentioned since season 1. It would have been great to see who they were and where they were in life. We know that Rick was in just as bad of shape as Jeff, but John? Outside not wanting to see Tim since he was picked on all the time. We knew almost nothing about him.
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You have to wonder when Tim used the ground pounder and knocks Scooter the Turtle over as a result. It wasn't like Tim didn't know how to use the pounder, he also didn't rewire it. So, how is it that he lost complete control. Hit's the 1 X 4 to launch Scooter in the air so high that Al not only dives to catch him, but also misses him and Scooter lands a few seconds later?
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Also at times when Al was clueless about things. I remember when Jill turned the entire hot rod engine party into a set up party and Al was constantly telling Jill he loved the idea of various foods and so forth. I also remember when Tim was arguing with Al when he was taking care of the boys and he just ate all the small snacks in the house. I get that Al wasn't expecting that the raw meat at the restaurant was going to be bad. However, most adults who are taking care of kids usually don't just eat everything in the house. I also remember when Al was talking at the support group that he found Tim making fun of his flannel tiresome. Yet, it was all he wore and at times he would have TWO pairs. One for work and then change into the EXACT same shirt after Tool Time was finished. What was Al expecting? I agree, I think the funeral was in poor taste, but seriously, it was Tim who got in trouble from Al on the comments. Everyone else knew that Alma was on her way to a quick death the way she ate and lived. I know we love our parents, but there is also a point where you know what they are doing isn't good for them.
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Yes, would have been some great stories there and they already had Art's daughter show up, so they could have had it where it would have been interesting to adapt to a step sibling when everyone is in their forties except for Marty. I think if they would have had Ronnie be more of an interesting character and having it where Mark was doing more with movie making or just showing he was still doing things in school. They could have fit it in, but we know the writers got tired of it and even Noah Smith got sick of the story line around mid season because he had no idea what they were trying to do at that point. I remember Noah saying later in interviews after the season had ended: "Mark kept his dad from going to outer space, talk about selfish." "Why is all of a sudden Mark fine when we started the season back up, never made sense outside we were just bored with the story, including me." This also shows one of the horrible character traits of Al, when he has to reveal the information about the neighbors signing the pension to get it removed. No one needed to know that information and it's the not the first time that Al did that just to be spiteful. It's like when George Foreman asked what happened to Tim's face after Jill hit him. He said: "I fell on something." Al turns and tells George: "His wife's fist." And then smiles about it like it's the funniest thing in the world. Why did Al have to do that? I get that Tim said things about Al, but it was more in good humor. Here Al acts like people need to know this information and just out right embarrass Tim because he can. Sorry to say, Tim made comments about Al's mother, but so did everyone else. Even at the funeral they were all: "Dear God! How fat was this woman?"
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Plus, when Tim moves the switch, it immediately activates. No way it would be hooked up like that. There would be safety features and then be told to move the switch to turn on. Plus, jet engines don't turn on very fast.
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I think they really are going to try and move forward with some stories, but I think if you look at it. They want to do something with Ryan and Kristin they feel will make sense. Hopefully, the "new" Boyd will be what they believe will make better stories for the characters. Truth be told, the age doesn't really matter where it comes to Allen and Travis. Allen is 65 and Travis is 58. However, even if they are saying that Ryan and Kristin are 33, and they are having Boyd being 12 now. That means they were 21 when they had him. So, the entire: "got pregnant in high school" doesn't work for the characters anymore and they are probably hoping new fans won't ask and older fans will just accept it.
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Yes and then you have characters that they never seem to get rid of. By the time we saw Jason for the final time, he had already been caught lying and getting a Halloween Party going. Trying to get Brad to cheat a test and then he tries to make the moves on Lauren. While the lying and getting the Halloween Party going, that should have been it. Yet, they had Jason get Tim again on the security episode and here he was STILL allowed in the house when Lauren went out to the concert? At that point, I be: "You stay the hell away from my house, you liar!" I really wish they would have brought Lucille in earlier or went with the original idea that Lucille and Art Leonard were going to get married. It was in the planning stages for season 7 and then got swept under the rug? Why? They decided to focus on Mark's goth story line thinking it would be a better story for the season, until it wasn't.
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Right and I loved when Tim shot himself in the foot because it was more realistic and then Al mocking Tim for doing it and then Tim shooting Al right back. That was great. Right here in season 6. Sorry, even with a testing of a jet engine on an F-18. It will not moved an entire air craft carrier like that. It would move the carrier a bit, but not to the point it's moving like a hovercraft. If that was possible, ships would have more of those on them.
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How true and not to mention the reason Debbie ended up in the credits the last two seasons was because they had expanded Heidi's character in the course of the show. Something that never happened with Lisa. Seriously, when Pam returns in the season 5 finale that was the biggest story line Lisa had ever had with Home Improvement. It would have been interesting if we would have found out that Heidi originally had worked a secretarial or possible tool sales person herself. When she was introduced in the season 3 premiere, Tim just said that Lisa had left to move on in her career. When Al made the joke about Bob Villa and Tim corrects him by saying going to school. It was nice that you had a character written off for school and when she came back she had finished her program in 3 years. Which was actually a NORMAL time for schooling with someone at Lisa's age. Unlike Jill's schooling they dragged it on until they didn't know what else to do with .it. Speaking of Al's mom, interesting how Alma became another TV trope, she was a woman who was hyped up to be either: ugly, fat, having issues and while you heard a voice or something, she never appeared because they described her in such a fashion they could never show her. Similar to Vera on Cheers, with the closest being she got a pie in the face in the season 5 Thanksgiving episode. In which the writers realized they shouldn't have gone that far. Meris on Fraiser, Steve Urkel's parents on Family Matters and Kimmy's parents on Full House. They show kept writing it to where the producers said: "It became an impossibility to cast an actor or actress for the part." With Earl Hindeman, they never planned on Wilson having his face hid the entire run of the show. It wasn't until the show took off in the first season and people made comments they loved not seeing Wilson's face that it became the writer and construction crew's task to hide his face in inventive ways. Of course that didn't always work. You had Earl's face in the 1st season opening credits. You had the Beach Boys moving so fast they showed Wilson's face. When Willow first showed up, yes Wilson has a Renaissance costume and beard on. However, it was still Earl's face, he just has a beard. I know the original talk for the final episode was for Wilson to reveal his face completely to the audience during Al and Judy's wedding. Similar to how both Daryles in the Newheart finale finally talked. However, it was changed at the last minute to do the reveal at the final curtain call.
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How true and after we saw the lines of: Fred the idiot producer. Arlene "Producer" Binford or that the Swedish Network was more invested in taking Tool Time International. Tim, Al and Heidi all came up with looking pretty stupid. Hell, they could have made an excuse with Jill not doing summer classes because she needed a break and didn't want to always be away from the family. However, that was never thought of either. I always found it on that Heidi who would do: "Swimsuit Calendars, Binford Promotions and know that guys found her hot" she then would get upset when kids like Brad crushed on her or that people were always staring at her. Yet it takes Morgan having her dress up in skin tight outfits, with pom poms and smoke before she realized that she was just used as a sex toy for Binford's expense. You think after she had a baby and a girl at that she wouldn't go: "You know, maybe I need to show more good examples for my daughter and not think she needs to be a sex idol."
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Plus, similar to when Tim hits Mr. Leonard with his C02 Nail gun. Those had safety switches on them. If you didn't have it pushed down for the safety catch to be against something. A nail isn't going to push out. Plus, the trigger won't press down because the release hasn't been activated. Even in Home Alone 2, both John Hughs and the Director wanted to make sure the staple guns that shot Marv had the safety pieces pushed in for the joke to work. They said: "We want it to look as realistic as possible even though it's a joke." HI never thought of that.
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You do have to wonder that and the way things were going with Noah Smith later on, if he would have left the show if they would have gone longer. Especially, when Earl Hindman dying in 2003 and was diagnosed with Lung Cancer in 2002. Something always escaped me was why Tim wasn't an executive producer on Tool Time. That was one of the reasons why Morgan was trying to get Tim back. Something that had been talked about since Bud first showed up in season 4. Sometimes I felt that Binford as a company really took advantage of both Tim and Al. Al was always getting shit on and a bad paycheck. Tim was always being manipulated by John, Bud or even members of the Board and President for Binford. The only one who got treated fairly with Heidi and then Morgan took advantage of her sex appeal to make it look like it was Friday Night Wrestling. Plus, if they would have gone a season 9, they would have written Debbie's pregnancy in the show too. It was funny that Jill finally finishing up her PhD was because the writers were tired of writing Jill in school because they didn't know what else to write with that and felt the well was dry which was a big "duh". It's also funny that despite the problems between JTT and Home Improvement executives was more from JTT's publists similar to Terry Ferrel from Deep Space 9 where they had no flashbacks with her on the final episode because her agent and manager at the time thought it would be a bad idea. Same ones who convinced her to leave Becker in season 4 when she wasn't getting a pay raise. Sometimes, agents and managers DON'T KNOW BETTER.
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I had a little time the other day and I thought I do some look at notes from Home Improvement because usually when a series has been off the air for almost two decades. Old interviews surface. One back in 1999 talked about that if the show would have continued another season. Their early notes were: "Al and Trudy adjust to marriage." "Mark starts high school and gets a great girlfriend who 'gets him'." "Jill will start her practice with funny stories from her patients." "Tim will be Tim." "Brad will be at college and make occasional appearances." There were notes that depending on where things were with JTT on his return to guest star in season 9, though we know that wouldn't have happened since Tim Allen and other producers were still on the outs with him until around 2005. Plans on making both Marty, Jeff and Robin would be more reoccurring to fill in the gaps left by JTT and ZTB. Otherwise nothing else. Considering that when negotiations started and Patricia Richardson was not going to have the matched salary like Tim Allen. That's when he called it quits for the show. Other wise only real story lines that were going to end season 8 was that Al and Trudy got married and Brad was going to graduate high school and head to school. I'm thinking we might have gotten a graduation episode for Brad if they were so pushing to wrap everything up in 6 episodes before the series ended.
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Plus that Tim didn't get electrocuted in the process too. He was grounded and he put the nail into the electrical wire that was lighting up. Plus, why the set crew thought actually keeping the wire that close to where they know Tim is going to put the nail in. Plus, Al is WEARING gloves! How is the circuit being complete?
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Problem with Mike and Ryan disagreeing on things is they both come off as only knowing half the facts. Mike is old fashion and doesn't get why things need to change or change for the worst. While Ryan has this very: "If people did this, things would be great." However, will Ryan not realize some of his thoughts are very stupid? No. Does it help that Vanessa always defends Ryan just because he's Boyd's father? No. Does Kristin act like she really was fortunate everyone handed things to her, but then acts like she did it all her self. Goes back to the end of season 2 with the recasting. Kristin finally realized that the dining manager had been feeding her crap for a long time on why he didn't promote. Always an excuse, then JTT's character had an open assistant manager job and she goes and takes it. Pretty much handed to her. Then Mike finds the old Out Door Man dining plans. Then just gives it away to Kristin. Who then thinks she is the reason it was an instant success. Even when both Mandy and Eve point out that Mike just gave her a very successful career in her hands when she wanted to go to medical school, but then believed in celebrities thinking that vaccines give you autism and other problems (especially when they were saying and showing that Boyd had ADD). Then they dropped that and just focused on "Know it all Kristin and Ryan" Aren't they a great couple? Yet, everyone from fans to critics said to just drop their characters and in season 6 we saw a lot less of that or Kristin getting the smack down at times. Now its: "Let's push those characters front and center and show how Ryan and Kristin struggle with a pre-teen son." "It will be story telling gold!" While the rest of us are going: "That is the opposite of what we want."
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Delores was like Home Improvement was trying to have their own version of Carla from Cheers. However, Carla was a sassy who felt like her life had gone out of control. Yet, realized that some of her problems were her own fault and that she liked to hate on others as a coping mechanism. Delores was just bitter and angry all the time. Having Harry say he needed Delores to leave 24 years ago, which would have been a year after they were married. I cannot seeing a marriage like that lasing, I don't care if it was the 70s when they got married. Or that they had that classic: "Arguing couple that really love each other" and then have 3 kids during those years. Delores might have been the type to send a Thank You Card or thank someone for helping them out. However, the constant yelling at people, saying how much people were idiots and being so bitter about... EVERYTHING. Sorry, when she said they were moving in the final season to Arizona due to her asthma. I was so happy she was gone. On for Jill thinking it was a good idea and always complained all the time she got the chance. Jill also saying how busy she was to not practice the piano. Yet, she wanted to throw herself to direct Randy's school play of Rome & Juliet? Once again throwing out that Jill only went to school in the fall and spring. Since they were saying it was the end of the school year for the boys. Which meant, Jill was finished with classes for the time being. Since colleges are usually done the first two weeks of May. Yet, in future seasons, Jill was so tired by the, she wanted to just relax or go out and and have some "Me" time. Here she was jumping at the chance to direct the play. Same also goes with Jill joining the book club. If she was so BUSY how was she having time to read all these books and when she was sitting in the car with Jason talking in the car before heading back in the house. She was really in the car for 20 minutes? Interesting that Tim didn't notice a car in his drive way or the boys. Yet, after that episode, Jill once again, just like her pottery class, just dropped out of everything. She kept being painted as someone who use to do fun stuff or had in her head she was good at something and then just stopped doing it. Talk about a waste of money and time. Jill honestly should have been still doing a book club on a regular basis and would have been a great avenue for her to have you know, friends.
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It's so weird watching the episode of: "Harry gets rid of Deloris" I know we have talked about how horrible of a person she was. It's funny when Tim is telling Jill how having her at the hardware store is so bad (her manager has her working one day a week for 12 hours). Jill thinks its a great idea, but she doesn't give any back up. Her only reason: "you are just mad because you can't go to the hardware store and talk bad about your wife. When Deloris is there she is completely horrible. Telling people to buy something or get out. Order Al around to move stock and nothing but that. Hiding the coffee pot so they couldn't give "free coffee" to everyone. Which, from last I check, Harry offered coffee free to all the customers and charged for pop corn. Also, Benny looking through all the supplies for donuts, which really painted him not only as a mooch but pathetic. I mean, really he is that low on cash, he has to search for food. Plus, the way she yells at Marty and Tim. Wow! Why would you want to go to Harry's Hardware, you be bitched at and never want to return. I think if Jill would have seen that she might have gone: "Yeah, maybe this wasn't such a great idea." Plus what was Deloris going to really do? She wasn't going to make money, Harry owns the store and only Al is there and is a partner. So he's making money, but other wise what is Deloris really doing? She just has some place else to just be a bitch to everyone instead of the dinner. Plus, if anyone was acting like that, yeah, she be out on her ass.
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Right and that's been the problem. They keep going backwards with things. They keep wanting to either re write history or keep going back before the original series even started. WHY? It's like they feel there are these "untold golden stories". Just right good characters and stories and move forward with things. People are tired of: "Klingons are the bad guys". They are tired of "secret conspiracies." Just write good stories on characters people love.
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I know, you also get kids who are constantly skipping school, sleeping in class, trying to sneak their phones all the time. Yet, kicking them off the team, why would they do that? Even if they couldn't dress for a game because of academic reasons, they are still on there. They just can't play until their grades are up, but sadly even that isn't a motivation and as you said. Even face criminal charges. They still don't get kicked off. Yeah, that was actually pretty realistic portrayal of a kid that thinks they know it all, but don't see it doesn't happen over night. Similar to the person on a social media network who is always constantly complaining how something needs to change. Then one someone asks what are they doing about the problem. They respond: "I'm busy." However, having Tim and Al being oblivious to the facts, that doesn't work. Especially when you go back just two seasons to them doing environmental week. Yes, Binford was changing, but sometimes it takes years to clear things up when you inherit someone else's mess. Yet, everyone wants things "right this minute." Which of course was Al's sense of things, he didn't know why people didn't give him what he wanted right away. Why couldn't Illene get he put his mother first. Why couldn't Tim just listen to him the first time? Why wasn't he getting what he wanted in life sooner? Al felt he was always getting the short end of the stick on things, even though it was true. However, why did Al always feel he needed two of the same type of clothes or boots? I get it was a joke, but when you see Al taking off his flannel shirt and then putting on the EXACT same type of shirt. It starts looking like Al has a obsession. Same when he had his boots and says how he has dress work boots and regular work boots. THEY ARE THE SAME BOOTS!
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I guess Yu is bitter at ABC too, because Dr. Ken was right behind LMS when it was cancelled. When ABC decided to dump their comedies last year in favor of more drama and news programs. It really backfired on them. Of course, Ken Jeong wasn't as upset when Dr. Ken was cancelled. Since there was talk of them possibly not coming back for a season 3 and why they wrote the final episode to be kind of a series finale. Of course, I think Jeong took ABC cancelling his show more of: "Well, that's show business." While Allen felt betrayed, when there was no hint they might end as a show unlike Dr. Ken. However, until episode 4 when they get Yu in. You would think they would want to get her in by episode 2 and start establishing things. Instead of waiting until 4 episodes in. At least they might do something with Vanessa this time instead of making her a moron who got her PhD through a cereal box.
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You know seeing where Randy discovered that Binford had a lot of pollution problems. I don't get how either Tim or Al would miss those things. I get that when John was in charge, it was a different time. Laws were different, production was different. However, when you have several times where Tim and Al are talking about being more environment friendly or how they were promoting tools and pieces that were not only cost effective, but energy saving and less pollution. I highly doubt that Bud came in and just left things how they were. He made some dumb decisions, but last thing Bud wanted was having Binford be stuck in lawsuits and I doubt members of the Board would want that too. Goes into when Bud explained to Tim what carbon offsets were. However, he brought up that it happened at Binford before he was there, most likely from John and later Wes being in charge. Yet, Randy was expecting Bud to change all the pollution problems over night. First of all, it doesn't work that way, even when Wells Fargo got into trouble with messing up property and trying to inflate mortgages. It had been happening for years basically from people who did favors for family members and then got greedy. Now, they are on so many watch lists because the US government doesn't want another 2008. So, for us to believe the state of Michigan or the City of Detroit wouldn't have been on Binford for things? Yeah, how did that happen?
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Yeah, the last time we had a coach or teacher doing their job on the show was when Brad was taken off the field for basically, hogging the ball and being a one team man. It's not like you don't get players who do that in high school. They feel they are the BMC or are slamming other players while they play. However, you score 3 goals in a row, have the team up. Yes, the coach is going to pull out off and go: "Brad, there is no 'I' in team" however to just kick you off like that with no word. It's like TV shows after the original Coach Carter story thought that coaches could just magically chain up doors, tell people they are off the team even though they are good players, ect. Brad wouldn't have gotten kicked off the team like that, and if the school was up that many points, Brad would have still be left on there, because this was the late 90s. Schools want to win games and go to division championships (which later in the season they did thanks to Brad). But to think that Brad was kicked off, then drove home and then back to his house before Jill and Tim had left the house saying: "We are going to miss the 2nd quarter." That makes no sense. Just as much as Mark's unwatched film, Randy being ridiculed in the school newspaper or even how Randy attacked Bud acting like he was the New York Times reporter. It doesn't work that way. I get it's TV, it's a sitcom, but trying make some odd point because: "I read it in the newspaper or saw it on the news" doesn't mean you know how it all went down. Ripped from the headlines doesn't always work in the run. I know what you mean. You can't predict the future, but it's like watching movies where you see the World Trade Center and people just enjoying the view or seeing the skyline like that. I remember when Friends first showed the post 9/11 skyline on the show in late 2001. It was just so hard to watch.
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You have to wonder that about Amanda Fuller. Before taking over the role of Kristin in the season 2. She had been on: Grey's, SVU and Blue Bloods. Mostly dramas and then to go from those to a straight sitcom. You could tell it wasn't a real fit for her.
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It's also like Mark's film teacher at the middle school and having it where Brad is doing gross things with the silverware or recording Jill saying horrible things about her chair. Sorry, but you know to properly grade something you VIEW THE FINAL PRODUCT FIRST! You don't do a full open house for projects and then shocked everyone what the films are. Even the other students watching who I'm assuming were in the same class were grossed out or shocked. But you know teachers on TV shows. They are either full of themselves, clueless or apparently are running: sports, classrooms and giving guidance for academic success.