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I think it's really good writing. All these episodes Shaw seems to always weigh the law vs what's right. Here he finally gets to choose on the opposite side. I don't think it's Shaw's responsibility to bring the witness in but I do think it was wrong. Nolan & Shaw beef? I'm here for it. I think Nolan was also right that he did take away someone's justice. Good writing because I don't think either side is right or wrong. Might be season's best episodes but I think next episode...
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I thought this was a pretty good episode, this season is getting to me. Obviously the situation is contrived, at the end of the day it is a drama. I'm starting to like Nolan & Sam a lot more as a pair. But it's more about their relationship and less about their prosecutorial duties and skills together. They're growing on me (I believe I've said before that Nolan & Sam are reminding me of Ben & Claire, but they've passed them and other boring partnerships imo). I don't think the daughter should've been charged with murder or anything more heinous than what she got in the deal. I do think *every episode* being personal is dragging it, but I think on rewatch it'll be better? IDK.
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Approach The Bench: Law & Order General Discussion Thread
Theli11 replied to GHScorpiosRule's topic in Law & Order
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Great episode. Only thing was I wish this episode came way later in the season. I think we could've used a more balanced episode but I'd reckon on rewatch/syndication it wouldn't be too much. Idk if it's my favorite of the season, but it's gonna be high up there. Definitely a step up from last episode. Not sure what this means for Brady's job but I do like her and Riley's relationship, because Riley's never going to trust her. Shaw had some good moments here too and I think the twist with the storage unit worked well. I thought Brady took the hit for him, and caused IAB to investigate. Brady is just dry, that's who her character is. Van Buren seemed to have different relationships with different set of cops but she and Briscoe seemed to be good friends, while she and.. Beauty Queen seemed to have a more adversarial relationship. It depends on what the cast needs and the character that she is. Hopefully she opens up more in the future, but for now I think she's fine. I thought 2 episodes ago humanized her pretty well with her sons and didn't make her so bad. Yeah, I enjoyed that scene very much. Even funnier because they're in the car with the killer.. I wish this reboot did more detective work instead of just speaking to witnesses. They should be going through boxes, tracking people, setting traps, having wires. (They did do more of that this season) but they're gonna have to get real creative. The promo seemed to be a mix of old-episodes.
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Approach The Bench: Law & Order General Discussion Thread
Theli11 replied to GHScorpiosRule's topic in Law & Order
I'll bite with ADA rankings 1. Claire - Her seasons were so good, I will say that her first season is a rough one, especially as a woman in a previously male dominated role. I will always love her. 2. Connie - I found it interesting to me how much she was a powerhouse in an office with both Jack McCoy and Michael Cutter as her bosses. Unlike 3. Abbie 4. Paul - So great, but he doesn't have as much characterization with him. Wish he got more epsidoes like other ADAs 5. Serena - She's not as bad as the entire fandom would think. I think she's a very important part of L&O, because of her sympathies towards the defense. 6. Samantha - She might rise above Serena if she continues getting better in the current season. 7. Alexandra - So boring, I can't remember a thing about her. -
Approach The Bench: Law & Order General Discussion Thread
Theli11 replied to GHScorpiosRule's topic in Law & Order
Law & Order seasons 1-20 are coming to Hulu December 16th (which also happens to be my birthday so yay me!) -
Kenny originally was set to replace Miguel. He flies out to Spain, Miguel & Johnny go to America, but Miguel comes back anyway, Devon apologizes to Kenny and as a result steps down. The roster starts with: Robby-Sam-Devon-Miguel-Eli-Demetri If Miguel didn't come back the roster would be: Robby-Sam-Devon-Kenny-Eli-Demetri However, as of now, the roster is: Robby-Sam-Kenny-Miguel-Eli-Demetri from the tag team event on. Miguel leaves after the platform event so Kenny isn't brought back into the plot yet. I think you can.. I'm not sure of the rules, I mean the Sekai Tekai seems to be playing very fast and loose on the tournament style and how everything is taken into consideration. I don't think they did unless there were long standing bruises. All fighters should've been at 100% anyways because think about the time that was taken. I'm presuming the Sekai Tekai has more than enough doctors and healing facilities that players can be at peak condition, so I don't think it's too much of an advantage. Yes, Silver lampshades over the rules being loophole abusive. Timeline seems to be wonky, but there's 1 event per day, so it seems. Miguel doesn't miss an event at all it seems. Now, Spain to California is 12 hours, we don't know how long he was back in the Valley for, but i'm assuming it was like 1 or 2 hours at most, because somehow he has to make it back for the tag team event. I do not think Tory is going back to Miyagi-Do, she made her bed.
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3 episodes of Brady in a row is a lot. Bar Season 20, Van Buren didn't even have this much focus and I think I can count on my hands episodes where she was a major part/or had investment in.
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I'm on the side of Maroun here, as I usually am. I actually wished that the witness didn't testify or been vague and not say that they were protesting did something else. No way would I have testified against my friend and risk getting deported. I didn't like this episode too much. Not because it's bad but the backdrop of the episode being Israel-Palestine will always be a rough write. I think it's twice now they've done this (the first being the premiere for Season 23), not a big fan. [Plus they're back at Hudson U for the case haha] My least favorite of the season but considering that I liked this season very very much so far, it's still a pretty good episode. Next episode is ANOTHER BRADY FOCUS?! That's 3 in a row. They better dial her back for the rest of the season, because she is my least favorite on the cast as of currently. I think this part was fine and earned. Why the hell is Baxter bending way over backwards and leaving Price in the dark? They still have some issues and I don't think they're going to work it all out, especially considering Baxter is his boss. Also remember: Baxter was appointed by the Mayor (IIRC), so he probably has some loyalty or bias that he's never going to admit. I thought Baxter and Price was the better parts of the episode. One thing about the season is that it finally feels like the show has a full deck. All the characters were alive here and doing something, and it felt coherent.
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Yeah I just watched Stalker. I'm of the minority here. Lennie is using a loophole and it's much much more likely that the victim faked her fall. I think Van Buren is upset because she doesn't want Lennie to screw up and get arrested for Perjury because she knows that Lennie genuinely didn't believe her. It's also a bad look for the NYPD.
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Continuity Gaffes & Ridiculous Censorship-“Really Frosts My Cookies”
Theli11 replied to GHScorpiosRule's topic in Law & Order
Noticed this recently in the last episode ("Report Card" 23x5) but it seems to hammer home that the first scene is set for Halloween night. But the season very much seems to be spring (there's a scene in the office where we're looking over Little Island and nobody is in winter clothes. In the same episode there's a title card that has October 5th on it. which is also not accurate. I also believe a previous episode (god help me if I can't remember it), placed an address at like the 600 block of Avenue C (it could be B), which doesn't exist because Avenue C doesn't go past the 330 address (Avenue B doesn't go beyond the 220s) and the place is a house when 600 would be at the FDR. This is also funny because when a false address is given often times the detectives will go "That's in the middle of the east river" or something along those lines. -
I love love loved this episode. (This season's turning out great). I will say though, this episode used the hell out of what one building which would be (Bethel Gospel Assembly) on 120/119th btw. 5th Avenue. (The Juvi facility that the kid was walking out of at the end of the episode used it) and most of the school scenes. Once you've been in there it's a very identifiable location. Shaw is a really good character, I wish Maroun had been able to express further feelings in not liking prosecuting a young black boy. The only episode that didn't do this was episode 2 which had Olivia Benson guest starring. I do agree it feels a little much, but they have a lot of catching up to do in terms of characterizations for all of them. I think Riley is still behind on characterizations.
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Eh, I think the point was that Riley didn't necessarily believe in the act that a fetus was just a clunk of cells. I think it's okay for the detectives to talk about it to each other. the Melodrama wasn't as melodrama as Season 8 (they wasn't breaking from the season long plot lines like Season 8 did [or Season 20 for Van Buren]. It stayed relevant to the case, and I don't think the detectives should be blank slates because at the end of the day they're still characters. Price's dad being ill at the end is also still relevant to the case because it's the reason for his feelings.
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Very easy appeal to win. Don't know if they were quoting bible verses too much. Greevey had his own explicit prejudices and Logan had trauma. Stone I don't think I remembered any episodes where he was all catholic and righteous
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Catholic Cop is already Law & Order’s favorite, if Shaw said it I’d be more accepting (and would make more sense that a catholic citing Bible verses) See below: The law can’t tell the future. The defendant’s actions didn’t kill her right then and there. And if she comes back alive like the defense is implying, it’s a huge problem if he got convicted. If someone purposefully infected someone with a confirmed 99.999% deadly disease and they haven’t died yet, you’d be imprisoning someone for a crime that has yet to be done/finished if you get what I’m saying. The defense has to do their job at the end of the day.