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That is inconsistent with him being in love with "the most intelligent woman in the world", whom he is surprised to have landed, according to his own words. And it is inconsistent with him being GG and confessing to Mabel, for no reason, that he is involved. Or maybe he lied all the time and he is mastermind, which in this case is inconsistent with him being portraited in the series as a dumb cop. Physicality is not the issue. It is her character. She run away from Oklahoma because she couldn't confront her father or her boss. And she tried to confront Cinda and failed. But she was pushy to Rose Cooper and she forced and stabbed Bunny??? Totally incoherent.

I think that, given the criminal pair Poppy-Kreps, the killer should have been Kreps, and Poppy just the mastermind, as Kreps called her. I mean, Kreps is a police officer and a security guard at Coney Island. The plan is to force Bunny into another apartment and stab her to death... and Kreps send to do the job to his girlfriend who is a submissive secretary????

I am not an expert watcher. I think that they knew that fair play implies that the real actor should be under the guise. Then they thought fans could guess the solution early in the season, they freaked out and plainly cheated.

According to wikipedia, John List lived with his family in New Jersey and, after the crime, he settled in Denver.

I don't think that plausibility is even a requirement in a whodunit. Look at the most famous books by Agatha Christie: The Orient Express and Then There were none (10 little n***). The solutions are not plausible, in the sense that those kinds of things don't happen in real life. But there are other requirements. The solution has to be coherent (including coherent with the personality of the murderer), and there has to be enough hints for the mystery to be solvable. And the motive has to be solid and known by the reader. The litmus test is that, if you reread the book from the beginning, knowing already the solution, then you spot the hints, and everything makes sense. This doesn't happen in this series. Poppy could pronounce Chikasee correctly, so we know she is Becky ... what? No, no, no hints at all. Poppy is decided to escape from her town, but then she goes back? Poppy can't face her father or her bosses, but has no problem to force Bunny into another apartment and stab her in cold blood? For what reason? No, no, the pair murder-murderer is very incoherent. Please, if somebody can talk to Steve Martin, tell him to hire a mystery writer. He is very talented for other things, but no for this.

I would like to comment two things (1) People are discussing if the "solution" is plausible (which I think is not, but whatever). But you are overlooking a more important fact. That is, there was exactly zero hints before the end of ep.9. Episodes 2 to 8 were irrelevant in order to solve the mystery. And of course there is no chance of imagining that Poppy could be Becky until she herself told that, out of the blue. (2) People are saying that they are here for the comedy, that they don't care about the mystery. But fact is 90% of messages in the forum are related to the mystery, including here a lot of them saying that the mystery doesn't matter. We are watching the series, trying to solve the mystery and then ... boom! a comedy gem explodes. This is what makes this series special. After a bad mystery in season 1 and a even worse mystery in season 2, that magic could be lost in season 3.

I've been very active in this thread during this season and I used a questionable model for my theories. Now that the season ended, I would like to evaluate that model. I said "I don't care what characters say because there are no hints, it is all comedy and red herrings". Well, I think this happened to be correct. The "I am Becky" reveal came out of the blue in the last scene in episode 9. Nothing could have made us think of this possibility before she herself confessed. I thought out best chance was to look where the directors didn't expect us to look. I focused in the images of the masked characters. After watching the finale, I thought I had done a very bad job, but after knowing that Poppy (and I think also Kreps) used body doubles, then well, not that bad. I had said there was at least 3 different masked actors and indeed there were maybe four. In fact, I think these images were the best hints we had, even if the first one was unintended. There is one mistake that I would like to correct for the future. Once I made a guess, I was stubborn and not prone to revise it. Even after reading the opinion of other posters and having new evidence. If I had been able to recognize Poppy's lips after ep.5 and Kreps' hand, then maybe my theories would have been closer to the "solution" To sum up. I think my approach happened to be correct, but my execution could have been better. Maybe next season.

which puts her in the category of crazy psychopaths. Same category of Jan. And exactly the worst category of murderer to choose for a whodunit. A complete no-no. You can read the complete collection of Agatha Christie's books and won't ever find this nonsense. In addition of course, there was no way whatsoever to think of this before last second in episode 9, when she herself, we don't know why, incriminates herself saying "I am Becky". Zero hints before that. Seriously. This series is top comedy, but worst ever in mystery.

Well, I was wrong. The writers did it again. A crazy woman with no real motive to kill Bunny. No hints whatsoever until the very end of episode 9. No relation Poppy-painting. And the scene where Lucy saw Poppy and heard the parrot is time-incoherent with her killing Bunny. Completely unsolvable murder. I read some posters saying "I knew it" in Howard style. Sorry, this was unsolvable. The comedy is always great. The killer reveal party was excellent. I just wonder why they can't pay a decent mystery writer to take charge of the mystery part of the series.

Yes, that was me. Jan is a crazy woman that killed Tim and almost killed Charles basically without a motive. Not again. But a female mastermind with a male puppet and killer is ok. The obvious option (already "told" by Kreps and Puppy) is Cinda as mastermind and Kreps and Puppy as puppets (another initially unintended pun, I won't correct it), with Kreps being the killer. I guess two puppets is enough, isn't it?. But I will recover one of my past theories. (1) a real crime and (2) the frame-up by separate groups: Given that Cinda has no real motive to kill Bunny, it can be (1) Nina planned and her lover killed Bunny with the knife because of the monetization of the Arconia (2) Cinda and her puppets took advantage and framed the trio, including Mabel's needle, the picture and all other stuff, in order to fabricate her podcast. I guess this is my final crazy theory before watching the finale.

I think that Cinda will be mastermind because in first season they singled out Jan in episode nine, and I expect the same pattern this season. Having said that, they haven't really explained anything yet (the masked characters in the bar and passageway, the motive to kill Bunny, the painting, Poppy = Becky ... nothing) . So they can change the focus in the first scene of next episode, for example, to Nina Lin, and they still have the same amount of time to give a satisfactory explanation. At least with Nina Lin they have a simple motive.

Maybe someone that was at the bar with her the day before. Maybe someone that wanted her approval to monetize the Arconia.

Was that intentional? There are more vowel sounds in English than in Spanish. Unless I concentrate on pronunciation, Cunning and Canning sound the same to me. So for me the pun is too obvious lol

I was so sure those lips are Mabel's lips... but now, I wonder ... can it be POPPY's lips? The upper lip makes an even better match, and the lower lip can be partially covered by the mask. And, of course, Mabel was celebrating at the attic with Charles and Oliver, that would be a time inaccuracy. Maybe the plot this season is better than I expected after all. (the masked character is the one that Lucy saw in the passageway)

Ah, you're right, I had missed the "A few months from now" inscription. Anyway, it seems this episode was written with season 2 in mind. And it happened that Cinda's podcast was being bought. And if you buy the podcast, you will be able to take decisions on the direction it takes ... Curious. (yes, I am in desperate mode trying to build a case for Nina Lin, instead of Cinda, being the mastermind)

I may have just spotted the key clue to who the murderer is. Nina is in a lot of pain because she is about to give birth. Then she says: "You find her murderer and give me five minutes in a room with that motherfucker once you do!" Isn't it typical for mothers to insult the child's father in those moments, and wishing him the same pain, for holding them responsible for the pain they are feeling?

I have rewatched that episode. Three things called my attention (1) Poppy (Becky) was right there at the office, while the podcast about her own disappearance was at its peak. And she didn't look afraid of Cinda at all. (2) Cinda's podcast was being bought by 30 million. In fact, Poppy points out: "What they're buying is her". I mean, how can the "mastermind" be bought? Isn't it more logical that the mastermind buys Cinda Cunning? (3) At the end of the episode, Cinda says " ... our next investigation. Stay tuned for 'Only MurderERS in the building' coming this fall." (so there was maybe a mistake in S1E10, because it was not Poppy's idea, it was said by Cinda at episode 4?). Anyway, it was season 2 already planned in S1E4 by Cinda?!?!?!?!?!?!? Right after her being "bought"?

Yes, I have to agree. I have rewatched S1E10. They had revealed in episode 9 that Tim Kono's sex toys were in fact bassoon cleaners (????). And, after briefly revealing the "solution", most of episode 10 was the comedy of Jan trying to kill Charles and all that. If they follow the same pattern in season 2, Cinda will be the mastermind ... and the "solution" will be again complete nonsense. I have enjoyed the ride anyway.

I really cannot say about this. In Spain we use the same word (moreno/a) for every hair color from light brown to black. Anyway, her hair color is not black ... Would you say in the US that Nina Lin is brown-haired or would you use other adjective?

Yes, but that is the left to me. I am saying that Nina Lin is the other girl, the one with her back to us. Or maybe she is Poppy?

This makes me wonder, which is the first episode when Poppy appeared?

The chicken bar should play some role in the whole story. You don't go to take a beer at a random bar in Oklahoma and, two years later, go around New York with merchandising from that bar. I go every day to the same bar and only get a pen for Christmas.

It is true that Nina doesn't have any evident reason to be in Oklahoma. But it is also true that Cinda doesn't have any evident motive to kill Bunny. It will be unacceptable by whodunit standards if Bunny is just a "random victim to frame the trio in order to make a podcast". We know the mastermind is a woman, because Kreps said "she". The monetization of the Arconia is the only motive that we know a woman has to kill Bunny. Motive is very important in a crime story. It all comes down to "is that girl in the frame Nina Lin"? I took the only photo I found of her from behind and the match happened to be awesome. Motive and visual match is enough for me to bet for Nina as the mastermind. Now I have to build a theory around that includes Oklahoma.

I don't know ... everybody jumped to the conclusion that McGregor is the father of Nina's baby. I always called him "Nina's lover"... and having a baby is an extra incentive to work extra hours at Coney Island. There is no worse couple possible than Jan and Tim Kono, and that was precisely the key to season one. I only believe in what I see.

She is Nina Lin. Well, in principle it doesn't make sense for her to be there. But, on the other hand, she is a perfect "mastermind" I think. I have a different role for Poppy, though ... I need to make test tomorrow, and let's see