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  1. 6 minutes ago, erikaelvis said:

    In my opinion this is the saddest thing in the whole show.  It makes me dislike Jack immensely.

    Well, given how easily Randall forgave his mother for lying about his bio dad, I'm sure this hasn't spoiled their memory of their saintly father.

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  2. 14 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

    I like Nicky and what he represents for Kevin.  Randall had/has Rebecca and Kate had Jack, but Kevin really did not have anyone.  He grew up seeing both of his parents bonding with his siblings in ways they were never able to do with him.  Nicky is that adult for Kevin.  

    I don't think all of Nicky's problems are gone.  We have seen Nicky work to reach the place where he is now, a place where he is part of a family again and he can open himself to love.  I will admit, the storyline is unrealistic given how many years Nicky spent alone in that trailer drinking.  But, the character gives a nice balance to the rest of the ensemble.  

    Right -- this is what I mean though -- I feel like he started off this dark character and is now this lighthearted character.  I mean sure, he's now part of an I guess healthy family dynamic, but it seems odd that the character that basically faked his death is now such a well adjusted light hearted person even if he did do the work.

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  3. Am I the only one that never liked the Nicky storyline? I love Griffin Dunne as an actor in general and he does a great job.  However, I feel like this is another storyline where the starting character of Nicky feels far different to me than what he ended up.  Like he joins the Big Three orbit and suddenly his problems are gone and he's this well-adjusted human.

     

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  4. Ella and her biting of lips, tongue peeking out is not as sexy as she thinks it is.

    And the blonde with the big nose (Mara?) def isn't as cute as she thinks she is.

    The American who is pulling the Hilaria Baldwin Aussie cosplay is horrible. I don't believe for one second he's had as many sexual partners as he has claimed but if there's even an ounce of truth to that, I'd need a Silkwood-esque shower if I were Holly.  

     

     

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  5. On 4/19/2022 at 11:15 PM, kristen111 said:

    Melissa just HAD to get her Solo in at one part, nice and loud.  The backup is what saves her as she can’t sing for shit.

    What was especially hilarious beyond the fact she can't sing was when Jen said, "showoff" and she was like "do you want this to be professional?" The delusions this girl is under!

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  6. On 4/29/2022 at 6:15 PM, islandgal140 said:

    Oh how I love this delicious mess! So glad it is back.

    I wonder why they skipped S8

    I, for one, prefer the fact that no legal marriages are taking place. I think it is crazy to alter your marital status based on "experts" on a damn TV show with an abominable track record. I'm not trusting anyone when I have to change my filing status on my tax returns.

     

     

    I would rather they call it something else -- living together at first sight.   Maybe have comittment ceremonies, a six month lease. 

    I just feel like there's actually much more risk, more implications with the US version. And the Aussie version, as much as I enjoy it, attracts the people that just want to be reality TV stars.

    Granted, I suspect most MAF USers are just trying to up their IG#s.

  7. 9 hours ago, chocolatine said:

    It was great to have a Miguel-centric episode, but there were so many continuity and logic errors that I couldn't get past them.

    When Miguel and Shelly originally told Jack and Rebecca that they were divorcing, they said it was amicable and that they just "fell out of love." Their children were also teenagers at that time - they're older than the Big Three - so that scene with young children lurking on the stairs while Miguel and Shelly fought (and Shelly compared Miguel unfavorably to Jack, no less) was a retcon, as was all the subsequent stuff about the kids hating Miguel. The writers just needed a source of conflict for him and weren't able to come up with anything more original.

    The job interview scene made no sense whatsoever. The most ridiculous part was Miguel, who was a men's clothing salesman, interviewing for a construction project manager job. Whether his name was Mike Rivers, Miguel Rivas, or Freddie Mercury, he was not qualified for that job. And yet the manager offered it to him on the spot, without interviewing any of the other candidates who were sitting in the lobby. To say nothing of the job requiring Spanish language skills but the manager presumably discriminating against a candidate with a Spanish name. Again, a trite and lazy attempt by the writers to show how some immigrants struggle to succeed in the US.

    Speaking of immigrants, the backstory with his father was also trite and cliched. Every immigrant family's story is different and much more nuanced than what the show bothered to portray.

    Finally, this episode was really sloppy with everyone's looks. In the 2008 episode when Beth helped Rebecca set up an FB profile and Miguel messaged her, Rebecca had wavy, shoulder-length hair. In this episode, in the same timeline, she already had her old lady bob. And the Big Three, as has been pointed out, looked the same when they found out Rebecca and Miguel were dating - which would have made them 29 or 30 at the time - as when Miguel died, about 20 years later. It felt like whoever was in charge of the characters' styling in different timelines had completely checked out by the time this episode was filmed.

    YES!!

    I couldn't help but think during the flashbacks that they essentially created a long Juan Valdez commercial.  I also was like wait, what? How do you go from clothing salesperson to construction?  

     

     

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  8. 2 hours ago, Blakeston said:

    When the big three confronted Miguel about the need to hire a full-time nurse, Randall said a lot of nice things, but I hated the way he said them. He sounded like he was talking to a child.

    I seriously started to dislike Sterling for his portrayal of Randall at times and I didn't think that was going to be possible.

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  9. I guess I'm in the minority:  I did not love this episode.  Too many flashbacks, flashforwards and I literally guffawed when Jack's name is mentioned during an argument with MIguel's first wife.  "I'm not Jack!" so now we know even the ex wife worshiped at the shrine of Jack.

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  10. 4 hours ago, debraran said:

    I"ve never been a big Jack fan, I always saw him as smothering Rebecca, making decisions for her, then she would go along. Not often did she just say "No we aren't doing that, living here, buying that, and I'm not making Kate another costume because you said so!" : ) He had good traits but not perfect like many fans see. Once early on someone wrote an article on all the things he did as the "head" of the family from Randall on that did not make them 50/50 in anything really. I think Milo has pointed out his errors too but once a fan loves you, they rarely see the faults. He always seemed to me to tell Rebecca we are going here, we are buying this, we are moving to this apartment, that sort of thing. He was not understanding at all what she needed with Kyle's death. They never even thought about Randall being black when they adopted him and how he will see the world and others see him. Pretending he's exactly like you isn't smart but Jack did try later and with martial arts class to see with Randall's eyes. Kevin was ignored to some degree and he did cater to Kate but undermining Rebecca made Kate think he loved her more. I only remember once when he was drinking and talking to her, that he told her not to call her mom "the princess" or something like that. No one is perfect, Jack was a better dad than many had, but I don't think Rebecca would have been so clueless after his death if she knew her own worth and was 50/50 more. She wouldn't need Randall to be Jack or resent Kevin leaving. Kate wouldn't be so lost if she had her own self worth and was made to know she could chase her dreams and be productive. I think partly the reason Kate isn't shown closer to Nicky is that he is a reminder that the Saint Jack did something and hid something pretty big. What you saw during Kevin's counseling was that no one could say anything about Jack, no one could have their own perspective or memory. That was a good segment.

    I agree, although the show certainly wants us to believe in Jack and Rebecca as the ultimate love story, that he was the best dad ever, best friend ever.  Sure, we had a couple of fleeting moments where the show had him being an actual human being with some flaws that were obviously flaws, but he sure seemed to conquer those fast.  The other things you mention -- the bulldozing of Rebecca's life and even the jealousy episodes seem to be painted as big romantic gestures from a man so in love with his wife that he didn't even want to do a golfing weekend with his buds! 

    So in my mind, the show led the fans to idolize Jack.  There are just some of us that don't view big life changing gestures as being romantic or praiseworthy.

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  11. Am I the only one that doesn't have a problem with any of the married couples living separately after this and actually dating after this?  One of the things MTS said that was interesting:  they way this all goes down, you don't get to miss your partner like you do when you date someone.

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  12. 16 hours ago, Ohmo said:

    Yes.  As for "loving her the way she is now," she's going to have to do that, too.  I think that's what her comment was about---a reminder for both of them to stay in the present moving forward.  Their reality, however, will be a mix of both, I think.  They'll be in the present as a couple, but I think they'll also be times when they go back to the past.  There's way too much history there to not have it have an impact.

    As to trusting him again, I think she does.  The way they are with each other, I think she does.  Specifically with them, yes, he did cheat, but they were so young, getting married then was likely not the best choice.  As an adult, Kevin has slept around, but he's never been unfaithful to someone while in a relationship.  In their case, I don't think of Kevin's cheating in the same way that I would think of cheating in a marriage between two older people.  He's had many sexual partners, but he hasn't cheated on them.  I think that's because he's always been reminded of what that cost him with Sophie.

    I know people can somehow forgive a partner for cheating, but these two, in my opinion have the foundation for distrust.

    Not only did he cheat on her the first time they were married, but both of them while in committed relationships found themselves on the verge of kissing -- not once, but twice.  

    We also know that Kevin, at the first hint of trouble in a relationship or immediately after, heads right to another woman -- one incident (fresh off the near kiss with Sophie) ended up with Madison getting pregnant.

    We also know that despite whomever Sophie was with at the time, that she pined away for Kevin.  Couldn't FF through the Manny for fuck's sake.  

    I don't know, to me, she shouldn't have been in any relationship if she couldn't let go of a relationship.  She shouldn't have put herself close to Kevin if the urge to kiss was that strong.  

    She shouldn't have called him right before his wedding.  

    It's portrayed as two people hopelessly in love but they've already had 2 attempts at a relationship in the past and it ended badly.  Sure people change and grow, but I wouldn't find either one of them trustworthy.  I would also argue that if you've had 2 actual attempts at a relationship and both didn't work out, you have sexual chemistry and nostalgia and that's it.

     

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  13. 17 hours ago, Quiet1 said:

    I'm trying to understand what you mean here. From my perspective Sophie was trying to figure out why she freaked out and left. What she is saying to Kevin here is like someone telling another "I need this, this and that". The other person is "okay, I'm on it, doing this, this and getting that, etc." Not that it's already a done deal sort of thing. Just that is what she knows she needs from him going forward. 

    Which to me makes no sense.

    He doesn't know the person she is today.   All either one of them know is what they had before.  So what is he supposed to do -- suppress fond memories, like the way her hair smells? 

    I could understand this more if it was him dating her now and he's stuck in their past, but they are just rekindling.  He doesn't know how she's changed, how she's grown, that she uses a different shampoo.  

    It's pretty clear the show is hell bent on redeeming Kevin so they are now glossing over what should be a valid concern:  You cheated on me before, will you do that again?

     

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  14. 1 minute ago, LexieLily said:

    The wedding ring in the five-year-from-now-flash to Rebecca's deathbed implies that Kevin/Sophie got married but I don't (realistically) see them making it even six months from Kate/PMJ's wedding. Like you said, they are running on strong attraction to their nostalgic history and dating in current-time is going to have them essentially starting from scratch.

    I think they'll give them the happy ever after treatment given so few episodes left to throw in someone else.  But IRL, I would bet it would be over in six months.

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  15. 6 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

    The show had the characters place Jack on a pedestal, then we got the characters seeing Jack's feet are clay, but ultimately the characters have made peace with Jack being an imperfect person whom they loved deeply.  It would feel strange to me for the show to have Rebecca resenting Jack in the waning episodes of the last season when we have not seen that level of resentment since season 2.  

    Do they even view him as an imperfect person? Seems like the only person that saw him as imperfect was Rebecca and that was for a fleeting moment while he beat his feeling moment of addiction.  I really don't recall the other characters viewing Jack as anything other than the most wonderful husband, father, friend that ever existed. I mean, apparently Kate's marriage was ruined by Jack's ghost.

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  16. 15 minutes ago, JKL845 said:

    He wasn't serious about that with Cassidy. I saw it and if you look at the interviews Justin and the writers confirm that. If you don't like Kevin with Sophie you don't want to see it so you won't. 

    As I said above, her "I need you to love me for who I am today, not who I was before" makes no sense to me since they haven't spent any time together.  If the storyline was them dating for another couple of months and then she figured out that he's in love with nostalgia, that line makes sense.  

    I don't really care that much about who he ends up with, but I think the she's the end all, love of his life, soulmate story is odd given Kevin can't go to a wedding w/o his baby mama and SIL wondering which woman he's going to sleep with and that after being rejected by the Great Love of His Life, he can't just go back to the room, be by himself and cogitate on what happened.  Is that growth?  I don't think so.

     

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  17. 5 minutes ago, JKL845 said:

    But Kevin and Sophie aren't leaving Kate's wedding to rush off to elope. They are both wanting to give it another chance because they still love each other. Behavior changes were seen, maturing, but the core of who the person is, remains. That's what they know and love about each other. Any one else that Kevin gets into a relationship with will have to start from scratch to get to know him, and they would have to accept that he is and always will be in love with Sophie. Same with anyone getting involved with Sophie, they showed that she will always be in love with Kevin. So it would be awful for either of them to be in a relationship with anyone else. They can't help it. They love each other and want to continue their love story wherever it leads them. I'm happy they found their way back to each other!

    She wasn't running off to elope with him when she was about to bed him and then freaked out, either.

    And as soon as he was rejected, he's off trying to find other women.

    That seems like the core of the person she married the first time, not someone that has matured.

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  18. 1 hour ago, Ohmo said:

    She doesn't know this part of him (yet), but I disagree that she doesn't know him.  They were married.  They grew up together.  Those ties and that history are important.  Both of them will be incorporating new information about the other as they move forward now, but they both know each other.  They don't know EVERYTHING about the other, but I don't think "knowing" is an all-or-nothing scenario.

    But I"m talking about the specific reasoning she gave for her freakout the other night:

    She wants Kevin to love her for who she is today, not who she was.  

    But both of them don't even know each other TODAY.  They haven't spent any time together as a couple TODAY.

    They are both running on fumes of nostalgia, past love, and attraction.  So it seems like a rather silly freakout and a rather silly coming back together.   

    It would've made more sense if her freakout was, "this man cheated on me in the past -- how can I trust him going forward?" 

     

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  19. On 4/28/2022 at 8:30 AM, izabella said:

    I think that shows her growth.  In the past, she would have jumped in again and would have ignored the little warning voice in her head saying, "no, wait, something's not quite right."  This time, she knows better than to set aside her concerns just to be with him, and wants to make sure they are on the same page because it won't work otherwise.

    I'm with the person you responded to that found that a ridiculous scenario especially when the reason for her apparently sudden changing course is that she is a different person now and he needs to be in love with that person, not the person from her past.

    Hey, guess what -- Kevin is a different person now from the one you knew and got married to way back when.  He's a different person than the time she couldn't FF through The Manny.  Does Sophie know the person he is now?  How much time has she spent with him since he was an addict for a fleeting moment?  None.  She was married.  She doesn't know HIM.

    Then there's the fact that shortly after being rejected, he's trying to see if there's a spark with Cassidy, right?  That leads to "we're just friends."  This is the guy you want to be with?  

     

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  20. On 4/27/2022 at 12:53 PM, RachelKM said:

    And this is my main problem with Kevin and Sophie.  It's treacly and a little schmaltzy to have a childhood sweetheart soulmate, but okay.  And yes, it would have been shitty to have another Pearson endgame by clip package and we've been given a background for them.  But that background is BAD.  

    Someone referred to it as written in the stars versus written in the show (sorry I forgot to note the post author) and that is exactly what the problem is.  Sophie and Kevin being great together and so in love was all tell and no show.  What we saw was a grieving and emotionally wobbling Kevin marry his sweet but naïve long-time girlfriend.  She seemed nice and besotted as hell. But seriously immature and oblivious to Kevin's self-absorption and damage.

    Then a brief relationship in which Kevin was still a addict mess. Then a hook up. 

    There weren't really any episodes showing them being good together.  And that's because the only time they were happy was when they were idiot teens.

    That tracks.  I hated Luke & Lorelie too... actually I don't hate Kevin and Sophie.  I just don't find it well written or really earned by the writing.

    Right that's what I found so funny about Sophie running out b/c he said her hair still smelled the same and then the love me who I am now.  I kept thinking:  He doesn't even KNOW the person she is now.  SHE doesn't know the person he is now.  They both are running on nostalgia and attraction.

     

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  21. 14 hours ago, OlderThanDirt said:

    Regarding drinking out of the little carafe, why were there so many different beverages on that table? The champagne in the ice bucket, two water glasses, two wine glasses, her something in a martini glass, his drink in a Pilsner type glass, at least one champagne flute and the mini carafe!?!  I'm surprised there was room for food. 

    The only way I see any hope for Michael and Jasmina is if he could grow 4 inches taller. I think she's going to say no. With his history of losses in his life and his three older sisters, I don't think she can be the one for him. But I think he's learned a lot about himself thru this and there's hope for the next part of his life.  I don't think he'll ever get rid of the beard but he needs to trim it a lot. Easier to fix than O's tattoos.  I could see Michael and Katina together. 

    I get the sense that Katina probably dates bad boys.  O has enough of an edge but probably a step up in terms of career and where he is in life.  I think MIchael is too kind and quiet for her.

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  22. 3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

    I suspect we won't see Miguel's demise (assuming he isn't in the flash forwards for that reason) until episode 16 or 17. TPTB just have to twist the knife by letting us fall in love with Miguel even more next episode. 

    And then she'll get to die having forgotten all about Miguel and she'll see St. Jack waiting for her.  

    Groan.

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