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Makes sense in retrospect that's why his death scene was just a still shot with a few blood droplets floating around - no dialog. Abrupt but timed well so plausible enough. The scenes of Naomi struggling in that tin can by contrast way too drawn out. I didn't understand what happened to the Martian ship at the end. They could have used some of the Naomi gasping for air time to explain the mechanics of the ring passage.

Missed about a third of the dialog because subtitles not available in English and the default was Bahasa Melayu, which I am sorry to say a bit rusty on. Quite a difference from the previous episode in which not much seemed to happen. Pacing pretty uneven. A lot to unpack looking forward to reading reactions and gaps explained, been away from this forum for a while. Wish they could just like get a friggin break for a bit, it's all so exhausting. English subtitles available after the fact.

Yea. If they could shoot properly the writers would have to give more thought to these interchangeable tedious chase sequences. Also the silly marching in lockstep attack at the outpost. I lose track of 'alternate' vs 'fixing' timeline. As in 'in this timeline, blah blah blah'. Either there are multiple timelines or there aren't. If there are, then the 'original' one is out there, they are just aware of it when ordinarily they would not be. They don't have to 'restore' it, as it were. Time nonsense doesn't bother me as much as bad shooting though, because nobody can reconcile the paradox of time travel, whereas the popgun shooting scenes are just lazy.

Agree about 'bottle' but would go even farther and say it was a suburban Connecticut episode. That is, nothing to do with space, or space exploration. Virtually nothing out the window, again! Could have occurred at your future nana's condo complex. That they tacked on a bit of Kaylon chase suggests even these soap opera writers must have noticed gee maybe we should give lip service to sci-fi, and not just be The Many Loves of Dobie MacFarlane.

Saw Martin-Green out of character in an ad for CBS All Access. She is gorgeous wow but they rely too much on lingering on her about-to-cry face. Her eyes shimmering with incipient tears. It seems harder for her to emote in other ways. Maybe it's the script. The other characters are less one-dimensional, and manage some light moments but for her it's pretty much one note IMO. That plus the harsh cold blue lighting puts me off. And the plots of course 🙂

Occurred to me later that the above reaction reminded me of my mum back when kids were expected to be outside during the day rather than vegging on the couch watching TV or whatnot. Remaining in the house was viewed with suspicion. Seth is the kid who doesn't want to go outside. He wants to stay in his comfy Orville house and play video games and do teen shenanigans with his friends. People who think he should be out exploring are like mum telling the brats to go outside. Get outta the hoose! Aww mom, you never let us have any fun!

I'm gonna try this next time a prof gets me for plagiarism. Can't you see I'm doin an homage here! Maybe with a New Jersey accent. Not just some lazy rehash. They are in a SPACE SHIP - go fly to interesting places. The funny Moclan cigarette B plot is enough homage, now come up with a real idea for the A plot. Stop dicking around and go do something. Leighton Meester is a good singer! Agree re Discovery. These shows aggravate in almost exactly different ways.

Was there even a mission this week? Episodes of Love Boat and now a girl-in-holodeck romance rerun. It's a futuristic soap opera in New Jersey. Why do they even have a space ship?

Yea the lebensraum rationale doesn't make sense. They do not need individual human being-shaped machines that galumph around like out of a cheap '50s sci-fi movie. Another homage, which is cute in the context of a lighthearted show. But if we're getting serious I would assume an AI collective would exist in Skynet form with purpose-built bots only for specific tasks, rather than individual semi-autonomous units. And would not need to expand to planets suitable for organic life. The galaxy is big (!) plenty of room for satellites, asteroids w minerals etc. I keep falling into the trap of taking the premise seriously. But after a mountain of bones, how are we expected to react?

That escalated quickly, as they say. I go with elaborate test/are you worthy simulation. How could they let that kid just run around like that. Otherwise there's no going back to the lighthearted hijinks and yuks, it's a full-on doomfest which I think is too great of a change in the basic nature of the show. The tone already changes too abruptly but this would be too much. If it's real though and they are Daleks after all I assume they will be saved by a change of heart Isaac who will engage some kind of species-wide OFF switch to deactivate the lot of them. He may get left over as the only one of his species, since he has a heart Tin Man style, if they want to continue with the implausible Claire romance. I don't get what she sees in him at all, plot convenience only I guess, and could really do without the kids. Other notes, it's funny that the units talk to each other and seem to have data-entry jobs, using their hands tapping on that wall. Such physical activity is silly, all that would be done internally. Doesn't come off as so advanced! Again, semi-comical, like Daleks confronted with stairs. Gordon saying boy we are a long way from home, arriving like two seconds after they left, I thought was a joke. And, why did they not just send down a shuttle?

I might have introduced this 828 min error earlier, though am not adept enough in this new interface to find it. But I will defend the error! Because it exemplifies the cockamamie-ness of numerology. Why would whatever force is directing all this combine separate units ie hrs and mins into a single number. 82 of one thing, and 8 of another thing. 828 to mean 82 hrs/8 mins is arbitrary base 60 bullshit, could just as easily mean 8 hrs/28 mins. Or stick to single unit and say 828 hours. Microwaves as I said earlier interpret "100" as 60 secs but "61" as 61 secs. Overlords of fate should be better with their daffy numerology clues. Not only is it a load of tosh generally but is not necessary in the first place. And as somebody mentioned above it doesn't follow that they will die as Griffin did in (return date + amount of time missing) because the plane did not crash as far as we know - they did not find wreckage containing no bodies - the plane returned intact. Also does this formula make it a guarantee? Some were short-changed then. Some survivors have already died, does their unspent time get put into a time bank that other survivors can draw from? Google 'numerology 828' for additional goofiness. Wait just realized 828 backwards is...828 oh my god I take back everything I just wrote.

I didn't watch closely enough to distinguish 828 as total number of minutes which is 13 hrs+ as you say, vs 82 hrs and 8 mins. Half a day vs 3 1/2 days is quite a difference! I mean, in addition to being a perfectly arbitrary and unnecessary complication. Maybe they could get a calling stating what counting system they are using. Hours and minutes being human-based time, means that whoever the Dude is running this game is no alien at least. Maybe The Calling works like my microwave where 62 is longer cook time than 101. Michaela's monotone was particularly grating this episode. Melissa Roxburgh could invest in some voice lessons during the hiatus. Saw Athena Karkanis in S1 of The Expanse and though her role there was thankless pining after the noir detective, didn't hate her.

Right. I didn't say 300 crew either. Kitchen staff? Anyway yea, the wisdom of carrying non-crew including kids considering the routine risk is an issue not specific to this episode. More pertinent is the tone jumping around. Talking flower one minute, death panel the next. Better if the humor was integrated somehow or dispensed with, at least in this episode, imo.

300 on board! Wow. Not a fan of this. We never see them of course, too many to show but it means they can bring anyone forth for a plot or two - teachers, schoolkids, other parents, random aliens etc, without ever leaving the house as it were. Might as well be a town in 25th-cent Ohio. Also considering the pace of job automation today what the heck are all those people doing. No ship is going to need that much labor. Granted this is an homage and all the Enterprises were similarly (pointlessly imo) populous. Better to have a small crew so they have to go outside for the stories. Compare to (23rd-cent?) The Expanse where ships mostly have small crews doing specific chores. And where the people live are destinations - asteroids, planets. Because space is perilous! Like Moclans oopsy shooting torpedoes at you! Re this specific episode (and it certainly has engendered beaucoup of discussion), between main and subplots, might help to integrate the humor that is lying around into the main plot. Yaphit sidling up to angry Talla at the exact most inopportune moment, after she tore Klyden a new one, and asking her out for example. Or testifying for Locar at the trial. Something goofy can still be poignant. Otherwise if the issue is a serious one, eg Locar condemned, then the lighter moments seem out of place, a bit jarring even. Inconsistency of tone - as several above have pointed out.

This is gross and probably correct! Imagine the dreck he picks up sliding around the floor all day. A living slime dustmop that's our Yaphit - eeeuw! Still, a more fun alien, underused.The hetero-Moclan could have gone to him for advice, he is a Ladies Man after all.