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The history between Lucilla/Maximus I remember being a big part of the film I just don’t think Lucious being his son was ever stated or even a potential plot point. Probably as it would have taken the impact out of his wife and son being murdered at the start of the film. Agree though it doesn’t take away from it too much. Just if you’ve watched it the original recently its probably jarring to see Lucilla go from clearly being in love with Maximus but Lucious as his son never being mentioned to her stating Maximus is the father like it’s a well known fact.

When is this out in the US? I saw it today in Ireland and dying to discuss it. Was it ever stated explicitly that Lucious was Maximus son? I feel it’s being stated as fact but I always thought he was a legitimate son of Lucilla and her late husband before the first film.

I thought the same too. Heartbreaking 💔

I wish that as a season finale this episode had been stronger. Especially as the season as a whole has been a lot better than season one. They’ve finally started hinting at Eve/Freddy. To be honest I thought he had more chemistry with Alan’s daughter. He has none with Roz’s daughter either. If they get another season they need to rehab David’s character. I don’t think the actor is great but I don’t know that a brilliant actor could rise above the shitty writing.

I loved this episode. I’m not a fan of Holly though. Shes too superior and I don’t like how she keeps teasing the “nerds”. shes too new to be that familiar. I adored Olivia in this episode. She was hilarious.

This show is so bizzarly bad that I’m waiting for a gotcha moment as can’t understand how Josh Jackson and Don Johnson got involved at all. Philippa Soos character is such an irritating Mary Sue. Also why were the three of them wearing glasses when moving the guys body, what was that meant to accomplish?

Was Frasier meant to be a distant dad? I know Freddy didn’t live with him but I thought he was relatively hands on and close to Freddie whenever we saw him in the original run.

I noticed it was above OG Frasier in the paramount charts for the first time this week so hopefully it continues to track and writers build on the improvements.

I agree that this episode was rslly funny and a great follow up from last weeks Cape cod. I’ve said it already but they really hit their stride with Freddy. He’s a straight man to Frasier but his arrogance over his good looks works really well and I’m glad they’re keeping it going. His jealousy over Augustine was very funny. I think the writers do good in having David in the background. If they get another season maybe they can rehab his character the same way they rehabbed Freddy.

I can’t believe we’re supposed to be taking his triangle seriously. There is no chemistry between any of these. I’d maybe give the edge slightly to Avery and the English dude but i think that’s mainly because outside of being suave and good looking there’s no personality to Josh Jackson’s doctor. When he got annoyed at avery kissing the other guy I was surprised as up until That point he seemed pretty easygoing about it all. The show is terrible. As said in a previous trade it’s like it was written by AI.

This was awful. The Despacito montage was painfully embarrassing for all actors involved. There is no chemistry between the leads so the romance is already dead on arrival. The third wheel guy who’s in love with lady lead is like a caricature. I can only assume Josh Jackson and Don Johnson are getting paid a lot of money to be in this stinker.

It’s number six on the paramount app. Two spots behind OG Frasier. It’s hard to tell though if that matters as there’s barely any original or new content on the paramount app.

Agreed. This was the first episode where nearly all the characters felt authentic. I think they’re onto something with Freddie as the straight man to his father’s wackiness but they’ve also given him a few funny quirks in particular with being aware of his good looks. His vanity and perceiving himself as a catch could work as a funny foil in the same way Frasier views his intelligence as what makes him superior to regular folk. There’s a good balance though of him being a nice guy and not always the butt of the joke. Where they continue to go wrong with David is having him always be the butt of the joke. It’s not funny. While Alice is technically too old for him if we go by e shows canon there could have been a good opportunity to get a Niles/Daphne dynamic going. Especially if she’s sticking around. They ruined it as usual by making him come across as a moron and her naturally being creeped out by him. The actor plays him far too broad but to be honest I think the writing is just so bad for David that he doesn’t know how else to do it. It would help though if he didn’t look like he was going to break character by laughing. Especially given how unfunny it all is.

What do we think the chances of renewal are? While the episodes have improved slightly I don’t see this on any streaming charts and doesn’t that normally dictate renewal?