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18 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

What the hell kind of story telling is this?

The kind that's used to torture people for information. 

Sheila Carter as a villian is more of a tired trope than a character having DID. Which says a lot. She didn't make me stop watching B&B(it was writing more hackish than this shit), but damned if I didn't fast forward most her scenes if she happened to be on during one of my sporadic viewings of the show. Bold can and should keep her. Never-ending Jordan is already hard to watch, but Sheila and Jordan??? Yeah I'll be out for good. I've gotten back into the habit of watching GH on Hulu almost everyday. So I'm set to drop this garbage whenever. 

Claire was trapped even when she had most of her body exposed/free? Her other leg was bent back but not injured she could've wiggled around and moved it to push the body off. Yeah something is up or she's just a moron. Victoria must have also taken some brain cells from Summer because who the hell rescues a kidnapping victim and doesn't take them to the hospital? Or call 911 for the dead person they found? Is a touch realism too much to ask here JG? 

Well I asked and I received, Abby saw and mother, and nothing. That's what I get. guess sitting through Ashley O'Hara & Dr. Alan talk pointless shop is more important to the narrative trainwreck than having Abby help get her mother committed. 🙃

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12 hours ago, boes said:

Chelsea came in to Adam's apartment, loaded for bear, jumping on every thing he said.  I wish he'd duct-taped her mouth shut.  Though to be fair, the two of them are neck and neck with which one will win the pity party race.  STFU, the two of you.

Preach!!!! Adam being wistful, and a little overly remorseful(him giving an Nikki's hateful ass an apology toast was pathetic but it was easy to blame that on her being a stuck up bitch) was okay as long as he retained some edge, and most of all dignity. Josh has made him such a neutered, wet blanket over this OCD bullshit. I can barley root for him against Chelsea, who is easily the shittiest parent on the show surpassed only by Phyllis & Grampire....

At this point even the worst case of OCD on the planet is the least of Connor's concern. 

12 hours ago, tessaray said:

I found it fascinating today to see that Pluto TV is showing stories from 2021. Chelsea has just been released from the mental institution and wants to go take care of her mom, while Victor nixes taking Conner with her. Victoria is in scenes with some guy named Ashland Locke (he's sick?) and there is Harrison's real mom in the park, with Sally flirting with Jack, of all people.  Also, Sharon - is she married to this Ray guy? Anyway, Y&R has its own channel on Pluto and it's free, so I'll probably watch some more of them. 

I've flicked through the soap channel on pluto a few times myself. Crazy how it was only 3 years ago, and the show was bad then too, but it seems "good" because it's so much worse now. Like to the point of no return worse. 2021 was before JG fired everyone in anticipation of the writers strike. Whoever he brought in to replace them seem to be just as awful at their job as their head writer is. Or if they're the same people, trashing the show must be some sort of revenge for ever getting canned in the first place. 

23 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

ED's performance is fine for me. I don't think she's trying to act like a Southern belle or a teenager, I think ED is acting like Ashley would if she were trying to look like a Southern belle or a teenager. Ashley has no point of reference for either of those types of people except maybe from what she's seen on TV or in movies. IMO, that's why the portrayals are iffy; they're not meant to be anything close to accurate.

^^^Agreed I think that's a good way to explain the portrayal. Now I do hate the DID SL, but it's got nothing to do with Eileen Davison as an actress(though I'll admit, it does her less favors as it drags on), and everything to do with the writing. She's capable of playing batshit as she's still hailed as the true Kristen DiMera(a character that is a complete psychopath, to put it nicely). But everything about this story is so nonsensical like why haven't the Abbotts put Ashley in Fairview yet? Why does she have to keep going in Tucker/Audra's boring orbit when she has a whole daughter she's yet to interact with? I'd much rather see that. Apparently that's the only way Abby is gonna find out her mother is unwell, as no one can be bothered with telling her.  

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On 4/27/2024 at 8:18 PM, Js Nana said:

but wouldn't it be great to watch Cleve defeat them all and become the capo di tutti of the Newman clan?

Not for me no. Wouldn't that just prove Super Stupidgirl(and Adam) right? The Newmans have done nothing to Cleve except kiss her ass and keep her out of prison so far. Her throwing that back in their face would just vindicate Summer's claims & suspicions. Granted, Cleve still being secretly evil would be better than this docile, innocent girl in ponytails crap Josh is pushing but Dummer being right would be the cost to that. 

Plus, there's a line of people a year long in and outside the family more deserving of the satisfaction of eviscerating Newman wovles than Claire....starting with Collen's ghost, Jack for Patty and Marco(Phyllis too hate her or not, she owes Victor a couple of lickbacks), Traci, Diane, Lily, I'd say Billy but JG has shoved him into a relationship with the rapist Victor sicced on him so idk. As far as I'm concerned, Adam, Noah, Reed, and Abby are the only Newmans with a legitimate axe to grind so far. 

On 4/27/2024 at 10:31 PM, Js Nana said:

But we can say stuff about Summer, right?

Lol look around....This whole forum is a Summer hater's heaven and has been for quite sometime. Which I'm thankful for since I really dislike the idiot myself. I appreciate being able to dislike characters (even if other people like them) in relative peace. Because nothing makes me hate a character faster than a overly touchy fanbase unable to accept or ignore fair criticism of a character they like. 

17 hours ago, blackwing said:

I wish Allie and Noah had stayed in town only because there's no younger Abbotts on the canvas besides Kyle.  Would have been nice for Jack to have more family onscreen.

I agree though that the actress wasn't great.  The actor who played Noah was so incredibly boring.  He always seemd half-asleep.  Don't understand why they recast him in the first place.  I liked the longtime Noah, Robert Adamson.  In looking at his credits he doesn't seem to have done much so I can only assume the show fired him.  He was a lot better than the most recent Noah.

Agree with all of this. Allie & Noah should've been recast and given a fairer chance. Kyle eating up the young Abbott scene is not working. He's a petulant, whiny douche like his uncle. And as much potential Tucker/Audra have, I don't get why they waste their time in GC. As mentioned before they're so isolated, they may as well be off the show. I think I saw someone a different forum say that Audra would be a better fit on B&B than here, and I'm inclined to agree. She's young & pretty, and has better fashion sense than pretty much all of the women on that show. She's supposed to be super smart but she chooses to waste her youth/beauty with a man twice her age in a directionless situationship in the midwest? It doesn't add up...

TIIC kinda butchered Noah's character with casting Eyore Rory Gibson & made him thirst after Tessa. If they can't/won't get Robert Adamson back fine. That sucks as he's very talented. But surely TPTB can do better than RG. Or I hope they can. 

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48 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

. . . is it OK with you, Skarzero, if I find the character of Claire to be an interesting addition to the cast of characters?

That depends....is it okay that I don't? 👀👀🥺🥺

All jokes aside lol, I don't care either way. Different strokes for different folks. I'm not gonna stop complaining(at least not anytime soon) about her addition to an already bloated cast/legacy family though if that's what you're asking. That shouldn't stop anyone from enjoying her though. 

Sorry but I find her, and her hypocrite mother nearly the same level of annoying as the undynamic duo(soon to be trio with Daniel acting like some poor, victimized ass) of Dummer & Phylty. But hell....at least they don't need strange rectons/deSORAing to exist on the canvas. Victoria the writers have completely forgotten about Reed in service to Claire, and that doesn't gel with me, as I kinda liked Reed. If they wanted a new Newman girl to upstage/shit on Dummer. Cool. I'm all for that. As long as it makes sense, and isn't shoehored. 

4 hours ago, realitytvfan1017 said:

They did soften a little towards him when they found out about Connor but I could see this dumb writers continuing their feud.

Very true, but I think that had more to do with JG blowing Connor's OCD out of proportion within the context of the storyline than a true blue step in repairing Victoria's relationship with Adam. Naturally Victoria wouldn't be indifferent or rude over her nephew's terminal illness OCD. That's a way for JG and the writing team to say "look y'all!! Vic is being nice!!! this is sooooooo serious!! pay attention!!! don't turn the channel or cancel your paramount plus account!!! pleeeaaase!!! witness our genius!!!😎🤓" then the hypnosis spell is complete. Because then we've just wasted an hour of our lives, and then come here to bond with the other trapped souls.....😃😃😃

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On 4/26/2024 at 9:49 AM, realitytvfan1017 said:

Although I hope Summer helps Victoria to see her behavior was like Summers right now and she changes her attitude towards Adam.  

That's not very likely, but crazier shit happens on this show so who knows. With that said, Victoria isn’t known for introspection unless it benefits her(much like her parents). Look at Nikki, despite her experience with Jordan & getting help enabled from Jack she still finds in herself to snub Diane in her own home. But Vic being less bitchy towards Adam would make sitting through Summer's selfish, shrill outbursts mean something at least. But I won't hold my breath, Ice Queen has gone this long after meeting Claire without changing her mind about Adam....and until she does, she's got fuck all to say to Summer about anything imo. The honor of telling Summer where to shove her unhelpful douts of Claire should go to Kyle or better yet Diane. 

Lily has been on a roll lately so of course TIIC are gonna try to shoot her down by shoving her with that fake ass loser with craters for nostrils again. I hardly understand half of what comes out of that asshole he calls a mouth(because I fast forward), but I'm genuinely vexed at how he expects to win Lily over while pissing in her corn flakes for wanting to fight Daniel/Heather's lawsuit. Fucking short-sighted dolt. I usually like Jill, but she sucks for giving this fail-up another corporate job. 

13 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

And this viewer doesn't give a shite.

I'll join you at this table with oatmeal raisin cookies 🙂(or whatever cookies you fancy lol)! But seriously I cannot put into words how little use I have for Claire*. If Josh isn't gonna get fired in the next 4 years can someone at CBS/Sony or whoever the fuck just ban him from creating new characters? He's obviously shit at it, and I swear they're all duds. Especially Jordan & Cleve. 

*Having Dummer be her usual annoying self and wrongly screech about how "evil" Claire is, does not distract me from how pitiful, and hamfisted the incorporation of this character has been show. You ain't slick....😒 

I'm usually over any story centered on Nikki in general but her vs Jordan and her continuing alcoholism is a special kind of cringe. Add in Jack being her purse dog, and the rest of her family of enablers and it's too insufferable for me ignore....jfc she's not "strong" for trying (and failing) to power through her addiction on her own. She needs to go offscreen to rehab already. Stop propping her Jack, she's not even a good/strong person without the alcohol. 

11 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Woof. This show has lowered my standards to rock bottom.

IKR? As happy I am you're back, I don't blame you for staying away from this galaxy wide dumpster fire to recharge or just staying away on principle. Seems like the healthy choice these days 😂 

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16 hours ago, Kemper said:

I am sick to death of Claire - how has she come on and basically taken over the show? 

Because JG doesn't know how to gradually phase in new characters without overexposing them. Case in point Audra, and now Jordan(NuHarrison will likely follow as they bothered to recast for a reason). At least Audra was entertaining after a while....not to me 100% but meh I'm in the minority. But still, overexposure is overexposure at the end of the day imo. Even if the audience likes a character, they don't need to see them everyday for weeks on end. Certainly not with this dumpster fire writing. 

4 hours ago, boes said:

I don't have any problem with Dummer worrying herself sick about Harrison anymore than I have a problem with her loving the kid.  Considering how insular the Newmans are, I always thought her caring about Harrison the way she did was one of her few admirable qualities.  That group generally gives less than a crap about anyone outside their own circle.

Same here. I think if after she & Kyle broke up and she completely forgot about the kid when he grew attached to her she would be seen as a shitty (ex)stepmom for up and ditching him. Or at least that's how I'd see her. And not for nothing, Kyle more or less stole Harrison from Ashland after the DNA test came back. He wasn't in Harrison's life before that. But if Ashland came back from the dead tomorrow, I highly doubt Kyle would be expected to hand Harrison over to his original father or defer to him at all in terms of parenting. 

Brilliant on all other points as well, even if Harrison was her own flesh & blood, her acting like his kidnapping is only effecting her would still be fucking annoying. Dummer maybe if you told your mother to go fuck herself after she returned from the dead you'd be around Harrison more in the first place.

More to that point, if the writers wanted to force a "sympathetic" Dummer on us, then this would be the time for her to lash out on her mother(and herself)for bringing bad karma on her, and the kid. Instead lashing out on Kyle, and everyone else. Then maybe we could be bothered to give a shit. 

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On 4/16/2024 at 2:30 PM, TobinAlbers said:

This kidnapping a Newman kid for Jordan to have her do-over would've landed a lot harder had this been Baby Ava that was kidnapped.

Adam would go scorched earth and nearly have a breakdown. Nick would be the big brother trying to keep him together. Adam would be tempted to hold Nikki and Victoria responsible.

Victor would have some kind of feelings about Nikki since he told her to leave Jordan alone and it was her need to confront the woman that allowed her to get free to kidnap Ava.

Victoria and Nikki would lose their righteous anger at Adam and Sally since their actions put their child in danger. They may have to do some groveling since Victor would take Adam's side in this over theirs.

Sally would go OFF on Nikki and Victoria for their selfishness and short sightedness and firmly have a grudge against those two even after they get Ava back.

We'd wonder if Adam would go dark over this or shun his impulses in the end to go after Nikki and Victoria for this. In the end he'd turn away from the darkness to enjoy his family with Sally and Ava.

Adam or Sally or one of the Newman's would kill Jordan over this. Would Claire feel some kind of way about it?  Would SHE go dark? Would she then become a wolf in sheep's clothing as she has a mental break and begins targeting the Newmans as Jordan intended?

Would whoever killed Jordan have to pay for it? Adam or Sally would go to trial and then the culprit is revealed - it was Cole. He had to end the madness and killed his own aunt to save the Newmans. Alas, see above as Clair isn't saved and becomes the new Adam, terrorizing the family....

Instead we got Summer pout screeching at Kyle and the Abbotts dragged into this mess. Heck, Abby's son Dominic would've been a better Newman child to take than Harrison but apparently Abby's not a Newman or an Abott anymore....

^^^Now this happening would be worthy an Emmy. Wonderful post!

Now that you mention it, another reason I don't find Claire a suitable addition is she essentially feels like a half-assed replacement for baby Ava. A popular(or at least formerly popular) pairing, with more promise was shitted out of a daughter just so we could sit through wooden Cole, hypocrite Victoria, and hamfisted, rectonned beyond belief Claire. Then there's equally unnecessary soap kid Harrison being shoved into this played out Jordan shit like it makes sense.....like how are people actually paid to fuck up a show this spectacularly???? 

Even in relation to the usual drivel this episode sucked ass. I agree with @boes that Allison Lainer did a good job but I say this as someone who still haunted by HK's Dummer. I still stand on Claire not being owed anything, but I will concede that since Dummer still has her trash ass mother in her life & has yet to pull Grampire's card over Marco, she can't tell anyone else what to do about their chosen psychopath, and needs to pump the brakes. 

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I don't believe there is any rhyme or reason for Ashley's DID. The writers pulled it out of their ass. Trying to make sense of it is more effort than they put into it. I'm sure down the line they'll pull a reason as to why she had it out of their ass too. 

I didn't know Billy had DID either. I don't think I was watching then or I mercifully blocked it out, because only thing worse than ED trying to play DID, is JT playing DID. I guess the dominant personality was that of one who was a scum sucking, step-niece banging, fraudulent, selfish piece of shit. Which is sad for so many reasons. As if handing out businesses to every other character wasn't enough. Now Josh is giving people DID like it's Halloween candy.🙄

I have no problem with Summer's mistrust of Claire(now her opinion of Diane is predictably stupid of her) in fact, not rushing to kiss her weird, awkward ass is about the smartest thing she's ever done. Everything about how Claire is being shoehorned & insta accepted really grinds my gears. Changing history just to accommodate her presence in the story makes her look worse not better. 

Also a good point that was made before is that Claire wasn't raised in some bubble or basement, she has plenty of human interaction with the outside world to know right from wrong. If she never left home, I might understand more. But she & Jordan lived in Oregon and Wharton is in Pennsylvania. Philadelphia to be exact....3,000 fucking miles away. For years. And Claire didn't produce an orginal thought once? She might actually take Summer's place as idiot of the family one day. All the more reason for Summer to be weary & defensive. She's worked hard for that title, and wants to keep it. 

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Shouldn't Jack of all people be aware that Ashley has had several mental breakdowns before? Why did him & Billy act like Ashley has led the life of someone completely sane all the time? I think ED can do crazy just fine(Kristen DiMera) just not DID crazy. But the writing is so ass it doesn't matter who was playing this. It's an outdated trope in the hands of a hack. No one could save this imo. 

While I wouldn't be too sad to see Audra go, I think killing her is a tad extreme even if I find her character to be medicore & wasted potential. It's nothing a better writer or limited screentime couldn't fix. Maybe. Tucker has lost some luster but I still like TSJ a lot and I'd hate it even more if he left. Although TPTB learned nothing from sacrificing Ashland. Serious question...Are they really gonna kill off every male character(save for Adam but they kill him narratively so there's really no difference)that shits on the current male leads, and just hope we don't notice??? 

Audra taking the fall doesn't even make sense because despite her back & forth with him, she's never had any murderous intent towards Tucker. There's no omnious "I will make you pay" build up from her. But I'm sure the fine detectives of GCPD will ignore that....😒 

The more I think about it, Josh is ripping off DOOL just as much as OLTL with this dumpster fire. 

Abigail Horton also had DID(which was almost as stupid as Ashley randomly having it if memory serves) and she killed someone, then framed Gabi Hernandez for it. Gabi went to prison, more stuff happened. But the gist here is that, Josh Griffith's lack of creativity has reached the stages of ripping off other SLs while completely missing the point and/or botching the best parts of the copied SL. Gabi was not a newbie, throughly developed, had strong ties with people her own age on the show and ties to everyone that was involved in her framing. Especially Abigail, who used to be her friend but betrayed her.

Imo JG has given Audra very little of that. So the stakes don't feel as high. Her strongest relationship is with Tucker, which sucks because they've spent most of their time flip-flopping. Assuming Tucker is the one to bite dust, how am I supposed to be invested in Audra's grief of him when literally every week the writers could hardly decide if she's using him/loves him or not? 

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 I thought this looked familiar 😭😭💀💀

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Caught up over the weekend, and wow....Jill & John raised a fake little bitch didn't they? Billy essentially encourages Heather & Daniel to sue Lily/the company for wrongful termination(way to look out for CW you dickhead!) Then days later he's in Lily's face about taking over CW with her and ousting Devon? Guess he can add CW to the list if companies he's fucked over & ruined. 

Devon's treatment of Tucker would ring more true, if he never forgave Lily for killing Hillary & his kid. Not that I have a strong opinion on Tucker being worth it or not, but he literally can't be any worse of a family member than Lily. Who again, harassed Hillary for months, and then got her & the baby killed. So...if she can walk all that back, Devon might as well keep an open mind, and be cordial. Lest he looks more hypocritical than usual. 

Adam & Chelsea's handwringing over Connor is actually killing the show as much as the writing & shitty greenscreens are. This special "school" didn't find out anything that a therapist in Genoa City or in the whole state in general couldn't find out. No shit his parents are his triggers. Chelsea especially, cos honestly to my recollection of the last 2 1/2 years Adam has been present & stable for Connor. This is the first I'm hearing of Adam being the town/Newman whipping boy, hampering his ability to parent properly. Not saying he's perfect, but he's not Billy, or Nick, and he's certainly not Victor for that matter. 

Like if they want to have Connor be a troubled preteen/teen then fine, that tracks given his surroundings. Whether Adam is factored in or not, his mom(who tried to kill herself) is sleeping with the guy that tried to kill his father, and made it his business to make him miserable & expose him. Connor should have a POV about that. There's some textbook soapy drama right there.

Or if they have to make it all Adam's fault, at least make it relevant. Adam is back with the woman that curved him for his brother, and acted indignant about it the whole time. Why can't Connor have angst over that & have an outburst where he tells Sally off? Or he blows up & tells Adam how weak he is for still eating shit from the Newmans knowing he is always gonna have hoops to jump through.  

Then, seeing what poor example he sets for his son by throwing himself at the feet of a clan of douchebags for penace, Adam finally finds the strength to chuck the deuces and give his family his ass to kiss for good this time.

Ffs writers, this isn't hard, I swear it's not....

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Mariah, but not because I think Lily would 100% suck at it or anything. They've never had serious beef with one another(that I can recall)even though Lily got her friend killed. Lily will give it her best shot but she's surrounded by assholes in general, one of them she's related to, and the other is hosting.....I can't blame her for being in a pissy mood.

Mariah will likely go in for a laugh that sells the whole speech. 

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Hard choice indeed, all 4 ladies have been through something, and are on the other side of it. Although I have to disagree that Sally was a badass on B&B. She had potential to be yes. However Bradley made her a loser/punching bag on that show. Bill almost killed her, destroyed her livelihood(something that still negatively impacts her to this day), and she never got his ass back for that. Nor did she get to slug The Forrester harpy for ruining her relationship with Thomas, & was thrown under the bus for a babynapper.

Sally hasn't fared too much better on Y&R in my eyes. Being Dummer's stepping stone to redemption that JG shat on post recast anyway, & being a doormat to GC in general. But she did get in Phylty's face when prompted, so I'll give her that. 

It sucks that Mariah & Nina aren't paired, because they're the only ones I can outright call tough. They'll both be carrying their teammates. So with that in mind, Lily is less deadweight than Sally imo. 

I really hate to vote against my girl Nina, but I gotta give this particular challenge to Lily & Mariah. 

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Abby

Nina

Lily 

Diane 

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On 3/30/2024 at 3:40 PM, GHScorpiosRule said:

Okay I just have to post the scene of the slap at the 1:50 mark.

This what Hope should have done.

Thanks for this, I forgot how much I loved Patrick Drake. I also forgot he basically called Carly a bitch to her face Lmao! I liked him & Robin together. Even as a Jason/Robin fan but if I'm being real, Robin deserved better than Jason. 

I've definitely said this before but SJB, TB are the only Carly's I kinda liked. However she, like Steffy, is high-key an awful person lol. SJB/TB plus better writing, just knew how to made her look human/nuanced back in the day. LW plays Carly the way JMW plays Steffy, but what's interesting is that even Carly has gotten more verbal drags, slaps & comeuppance most short lived, but still happened. Not so much in the last decade & a half ofc, but in sum total, definitely more than Steffy. Even though they're both equally propped/forced as the heroic HBICs in their respective shows.

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Well my spiteshipping of Thope barley lasted a week. Thomas putting Douglas in adult business again, and using him to make Hope feel guilty brought me back to my senses. I'm not sure what his half-assed comment to Steffy about not trashing Hope came from but he's a day late and dollar short with it.  

Also NOW everyone remembers Caroline? When Hope was still married to Liam, and outright rejecting Thomas all I heard for years is "Hope is Douglas' mother. So Hope & Thomas have to xyz, etc." But now Caroline is a factor? Because Hope doesn't want to marry Thomas? That's too fucked up for words. I'm okay with Thomas leaving Hope, on his fucking own terms without Steffy's uninformed opinion about something that's none of her business. 

On 3/28/2024 at 8:17 PM, NinjaPenguins said:

She’s giving him sex, intimacy, co-parenting, working with him… and she sets one very reasonable boundary that he can’t be arsed to respect. When he fails to break down that one wall, he takes his ball and goes off to Paris like a big baby. Not only that, he takes off with Douglas to add insult to injury. Hope has been crystal clear about the marriage thing,

For some reason that part seems not to click because Hope wore that necklace. Like okay just forget that Thomas asked her to do it after already being turned down again.....If sex, defending him at every turn, forgiving him for helping keep her baby from her, and working with him wasn't enough for his whiny, turncoat ass, then nothing would be enough. Not even marriage. Yeah...Hope should not look at this as a loss. 

48 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

6 hours ago, bluvelvet said:

Steffy with the “I won’t let you steal my brother “  eww… she’s coming across like a jilted lover. Eww Eww 

I know, right? Like what kind of relationship do Steffy and Thomas have exactly? I could understand if Steffy meant that Thomas spent so much time with Hope that he none left for his family or if Hope and Thomas moved to Antarctica at Hope’s insistence. Steffy and Thomas live in the same neighborhood and work in the same damn building. 

She and the og Stephanie the definition of emotional incest. A better soap would portray that as weird and disturbing, instead of endearing and rootable. 

Even if she were looking out for her grown, completely autonomous brother, why drag Brooke into it then? Why call Hope everything but a child of god? What's the grand excuse for that? Other than Steffy is the queen and she's never out of pocket...She's not protecting anyone she's being a bully and is thoroughly enjoying it.

I'm neutral on Hope stealing Finn away, it's not like Steffy doesn't deserve it. But with Liam up her ass & Finn being conflicted about pycho Sheila, it might not be much of an L in the long run. Steffy will remember the pain of an ass whooping next time she wants to talk shit though. Most bullies, who end up getting fucked up do.  

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I like Abby enough, but I don't think she's ever had or won a real fight. Mia snatched her up like it was nothing(which I thought was BS but still), Sharon smacked her & almost beat her up, I think even Dummer kinda gave her the work once. If the show still got down like that, Amanda would've kicked her ass after catching her with Devon. She can hardly fight, but one thing doesn’t necessarily have to do with the other. So maybe she could toss a 30lbs backpack idk...I just personally don't see it. 

Lauren OTOH, has fights that are part of iconic vintage soap catfights. Just about any soap fight compilation on YouTube will have at least one of her fights vs. Traci and/or Shelia. And I don't think she's aged out of being able to throw down quite yet.

So I'll have to say Lauren, even if I like Abby more. 

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Diane: Claire touched a spinning wheel and dreamed that her mother slept with Kyle. When caught, she said "What? My mother & I used to shag each other's (ex)boyfriends all the time! We're bringing this back for you! Your final initiation into our clan is to now shag one of mine! FYI Nate & Stitch are the only ones that don't father one of your siblings!" 

Sally: Christine saw a sign for guitar themed pasties and thought that Danny could use them. 

Sharon: If she's off her meds, I think this bitch is capable of just about anything tbh. I wouldn't want to be stuck with her in an scenario like that. 

Mariah: Poor Esther was already worn out from running a coffee shop and being receptionist at CW, and she passed out. Luckily a nearby news chopper found & rescued her. Now she owns Starbucks. So fuck that mansion anyways. 

Lily: Ashley's alter #1 told alter #2 that Lily had the psych ward on speed dial & to stay away from her. The dominant personality kept smelling croissants, traumatized. She walked in the opposite direction. 

Nina: She's a secret badass. Traci saw her older sister talking to herself and attempted to help her. Ashley kept asking her if she had a croissant. They bummed a ride home in the same news chopper that found Esther.

Lauren: Anyone that survived early 90s Sheila Carter is not to be underestimated. Abby pretended to be Victoria(a child Victor remembers) in order to be rescued...the security team took 2 days to find her. They kept looking over her in favor of the very thin pine trees that resemble Victoria. 

Tessa: Nikki fell off the wagon again and passed out. There have also been sightings of an older woman with a pixie cut putting on a bear costume and heading in her direction. Let's hope for the worst. 

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1 hour ago, boes said:

I was expecting one from the shuffleboard that's been made of the Newman Media jobs, especially when Audra got fired, but nada so far.  
I thought Audra, for sure, wouldn't take Nikki's unfair dismissal so easily but apparently Show did.  

Audra, for whatever reason, idolizes or at least respects that family. Victor especially. Which is one of the reasons I haven't warmed up to her much. Even if she hadn't signed an NDA, I doubt she'd come for them anyway. Nate & Sally didn't, they were wrongfully terminated and pretty much took it lying down too. That aside, I wish we'd seen Audra at least consider suing or trying to devise some payback before giving up. But I guess that would've taken time away from JG living out his cringe fantasy of banging a younger woman, with a woman his age embarrassing herself over him via Tucker

Lily isn't a Newman, so the writers aren't going to let her fire people for personal reasons and that be the end of it. I hope I'm wrong and Heather & Daniel just piss off.....Because I'm not looking forward to watching a character get punished for something that the Newmans do with impunity. That's just more of the same bullshit that has ruined the show for me over the years. 

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Well damn Lily really pulled the trigger 😳. Can't say it was hard to watch her do it though, even with the risk of lawsuit. I enjoyed it. 

If Lily gets sued for wrongful termination then Victoria and shitty parents better be next. I suppose there won't be a convenient NDA that Daniel & Heather signed so they'll have to stfu like Audra did after Drinki fired her. 

Nothing to say about Ashley & her 20 personalities other than I want it to be over since JG can't do it right. I didn't watch OLTL in it's heyday but what I did see in some of it's final years was still better than what is being done now. I don't  doubt that the good beats the show did with Viki/Niki and later Jess/Tess DID disorders, was likely the doing of other writers with JG sprinkled in.

As mentioned before, alters are supposed to be low-key there might be tics or habits that eventually give them away to one's that know them well & interact with them daily. But by that point the goal has been completed or mostly completed and the alter doesn't care about being discovered. Do we even know what the alter's goal is? Other than get Tucker's attention, which was done weeks ago? 

The OCD is already hard to take seriously(the needless handwringing part of it anyway) but why would the writers force all this, finally bring Connor onscreen just to ship him off again? That's not going to help the audience care about his OCD, serious or not. Also if Connor is at least happier at home it shouldn't matter that he's still showing symptoms. What he has isn't physical so he can be treated anywhere there is a decent therapist. He's gonna have symptoms any and everywhere, not sure why Chelsea doesn't get that but whatever...She needs to take her own advice, and accept Connor's illness in that respect first before tossing him to somewhere far from home....Again...

Is it bad that I found her more annoying than Nostrils? He was definitely presumptuous as usual, but he was only parroting what Chelsea wanted like a good little  prop. He was more of a dick to Lily & Devon in my humble opinion. 

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Yeah this is gonna be a sweep and I'm glad 😂

Phylty & Summer 

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Well sure on paper Lily is doing the right thing, but it's still fair to call her a coward/pushover imo. This show already asks us to suspend our beliefs on how corporate/office politics really work. Would Lily canning Daniel and Heather be unprofessional? Sure, it wouldn't be the first time a character was unprofessional & got away with it though. 

Nikki fired Audra for sympathizing with her snobby ass and didn't face any legal repercussions or pushback. Moreover, Nate got fired for trying to help Victor, who faked a whole illness, and Nate conveniently didn't sue for wrongful termination or sexual harassment (not that I believe he'd have the balls to do that to queen Victoria). I think Lily can fire Daniel & Heather for making the conscious decision to fuck her over, since they won't leave on their own. If they're as magnanimous as they pretend to be, I'm sure they'll take it with grace. But even if they kick up dust, Lily should not back down. 

Also unless Omegasphere is on the level of Nintendo, Epic Games, Sony, Microsoft's or WarnerBros gaming platforms, then I'd say they can almost certainly afford to dump it. (Replacing Daniel & keeping is an option too) It was a stupid concept born out of propping Chelsea's lame ass mental illness cure all game or whatever anyway. On that basis alone it can, and should go. 

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On 3/23/2024 at 9:41 AM, bluvelvet said:

The inevitable breakup is a good thing and needs to happen.

After watching today, I agree but the way it happens just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Which is surprising since, I don't even like this couple 😭 I guess underestimated the fact that I dislike Steffy much more or just dislike the idea that she gets away with being such a bullish, instigating, pain the ass much more. Either way, if Thope breaking up makes her happy or happens because of her yapping, then that's just about reason enough for me to spitefully begrudgingly "cheer" them on. Lol 

1 hour ago, KerleyQ said:

It doesn't matter at all what Hope wants or how Hope feels?  The relationship has to move exactly according to Thomas's timetable and wishes, or else she's leading him on?

Well bucko, she's a woman. Women aren't people they're objects. They don't have wants unless men say so and men people decide what those wants are. It only matters what men and Steffy want. What show are you watching? 🤡

44 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

I could almost, almost, cut Steffy some slack if, when she was talking about him being Hope's rebound, she would have related it to her own experience as Liam's rebound, and talked about how now that she's found Finn and understands what it is to be her husband's first and only choice, she had the strength to turn down Liam's repeated attempts to make her his rebound again. And then say that she wants that for Thomas, too, for both of them to be happily out of Liam and Hope's mess. 

Yeah that's about where I'm at. Rebound from Lame angle, that's understandable, because Hope has done that before with Wyatt. But Thomas foolishly, haphazardly proposing twice after being told she didn't want to get married, and promptly gets rejected. That's not a Hope malfunction. But if he wants to walk away over that on his own then fine. But in trying to blame Hope, Steffy and Ridge make everything worse. Then Steffy encourages Thomas to take their son out of town (likely without telling Hope) the same son they share custody of because she doesn't cave to his proposal. Notice how Thomas pushing her to wear the necklace(saw that being brought up elsewhere) wasn't a deal-breaker but Hope saying "I love you, but no marriage right now." somehow is a deal-breaker...🙃

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Definitely Chelsea. Kind of a tough choice but Mariah. 

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I can take or leave March Madness but with that said, for me it was something to get more upset about when soaps were good or even just midly decent. Nowadays? To be completely honest....it's refreshing to be able to take 2 day break from awful, contrived writing without falling behind nearly a week on episodes.

Found this on twitter(still a cesspool but this was funny) and to think it was posted before her dream episode lol