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I thought the episode was outstanding. Best Outlander season finale yet. They hit all the right beats, the whole episode was visually stunning, they managed to stay true to (even the more ludicrous aspects of) the book and they spent some well-needed time on Claire and Jamie's romance/relationship. Everyone turned in marvelous performances. This might not be a popular opinion but I have come here several times over the season and thought that some of the viewpoints were veering toward unreasonable. Maybe it is because I have been a fan for only two years versus twenty. When something happens in the series that is not in the book or changed from the book, I might be disappointed but I remind myself that they are not making Katville's Outlander. I think sometimes it might be best to keep in mind that this is a ridiculously difficult series to adapt. I admire the show's commitment, their care and thought and their enthusiasm. I sympathize with them for the criticism that they receive when I truly believe that they are trying to make the best product that they can. Think back to this season, it was incredibly ambitious from the beginning and I cannot think of another series that has to meld so many genres, locations and storylines -- and do it realistically. I just wonder if fans expectations (probably fueled by the long Droughtlander) were impossible to meet.

That was everything I wanted it to be.

Ian looking so old fits in with the book, where Ian has lived a hard, back-breaking life. Some would say Jamie has too but I think that the weight of Lallybroch on Ian's shoulders and dealing with an amputation during a time period where there was really no therapy or assistance prematurely aged him. Steven Cree still did a great job with that scene. I liked the Fergus and Ian scene too. I am having a hard time pinpointing what I disliked so much about the ep. Spending so much precious time on the surgery of a character who tried to kill Claire? Claire being so brittle and cold? I did like the scene where they argued as I thought that was a normal reaction now that they are getting used to each other again.

I didn't like it either and it pains me to say that. I hope it grows on me with a second viewing.

I am on board with him telling Claire about Willie at that moment. Part of what made Claire and Jamie's relationship so strong was that they always could tell each other anything and be their authentic selves with each other. Jamie said that he had not told anyone about Willie but he immediately told Claire because even 20 years later, he trusts her in a way that he trusted no one else. One of the greatest things about Jamie and Claire's love story is that they are a team. I think Jamie was so happy to have that intimacy back, an intimacy that he never found with anyone else, nor honestly, wanted with anyone else.

Gabaldon explains it in the book why Jamie did not tell Claire that he was married to Laoghair and I think it holds true here too. He was desperate for her to stay and he did not want to tell her anything that possibly might make her go away. I hope they play that scene when she finds out similar to the book because I thought it was very powerful and could be why they did not go super heavy on the emotions in this episode. They could be saving it for that fight. I think they hit the right beats here -- Jamie and Claire are tentative and unsure and don't want to do anything to upset the other one.

I agree 100 percent, Dust Bunny. While I missed having Jamie's emotional reaction to the photos, I still think the episode was beautifully done. One thing that viewers need to step back and realize: they can't make us all happy. Just look at the opinions in the A. Malcolm episode thread - everyone has a different one. Everyone has something different to say, every person has a different scene they wanted to see and each person has a different interpretation of the book. The Outlander team has an impossible task. They are taking a beloved and very dense book, with a wide variety of locales and characters who age two decades, and trying to craft it into 13 episodes of television, within budget. It saddens me to read the vitriol that is thrown at them. The only thing that I give a side eye to in episode 6 is the inclusion once again of a threat of rape that was not in the book. The books are so rape heavy in the first place, that I cannot for the life of me figure out why they would add to that. I hope there is a good reason for this that will play out or be explained in the podcast. I just wish the fans would be more reasonable.

I am very much in the Yep camp and cannot wait to watch it again. Wonderfully done. Am especially impressed at how S & C are playing the characters older. They are still Claire and Jamie, but they are not the same. Bravo for some subtle and marvelous acting.

It is almost embarrassing how much I have watched this. Almost.

A pregnant woman with a high-risk pregnancy at that. I am with Toni on her favorite line from ep 3. I loved that line and I think it was a rare moment of true, 100% honesty from Claire. She tried for two decades to hide her love for Jamie, hide her devastation and how lost she was, she tried to hide how the experience of going through the stones changed her. But she wasn't going to lie to Frank and diminish Jamie, even though many, many years had passed. I loved that.

Refinery 29 is where I got the 4 year age difference info: Link.

I don't think that age difference is correct. There is only 4 years difference in age between them.

I for one am very happy. I think Murtagh will add a lot of what will be needed in the colonies -- a tie to the beginning books. Sometimes I felt like I was reading a completely new series in the last four books, to their detriment.

I actually really like that dress. It is a fun way to be a fan without going next level cosplay.

I think DG's failings come from a lack of editing and an abundance of hubris. More is not always better, in fact it is seldom better.