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I am watching what now, but I don't watch Danielle's segments. She's predictable, sad, and stupid , and I'm tired of seeing her.

Agreed. I gave her a chance because Devar (on their season ) seemed to be amazing and kind. But, she was a Miss snooty prick and she looks rough like she just overcame an addiction. I did not know what Devar saw in her and was actually surprised to hear that it was working out (before now). Her son is adorable, as is her daughter with Devar. I feel bad for the children.

Let's all be real here. If you were in a room with Chantal and she left wouldn't you want to clap and say "Thank God!" ? I know I would. Was Nicole immature, petty, and straight up rude? absolutely. BUT , 1. She could have done/said something a lot worse, 2. Chantal is an adult; surely she can navigate this offense without involving her family. Pedro doesn't back her up or stick up for her when it comes to his family; I get it. But, she doesn't really back up Pedro or stick up for him when it comes to her family either. I think Chantal has put him in a very very very bad position when it comes to the family chantel. Pedro has a TON of faults, but I do think he entered into this marriage with good and honest intentions. He was very willing to tell the truth from the beginning AND he tried to spend time with/ be civil to/ form a relationship with Chantel's dad and brother in the beginning. He played basketball with them, worked out with them- tried to please Chantal (against his wishes) by not spilling the beans. He struggled in his English and probably came off shifty because of that. They were suspicious from the get go because of what Chantel was feeding them about Pedro. She lied and lied and lied and tried to pass it off on Pedro or was at least willing to let him take the blame and never fully clear it up with her family. She also took advantage of his lack of understanding in regards to what her family was saying about him and what she was telling them about him at first. Also , the family Chantel is as dumb as rocks and don't understand common decency. On the other end, I don't think Chantel is what mama Pedro wanted for her son either and the ugly has come out.

Let's not forget that Pedro wasn't dissing them in their "home". He was most likely dissing them in their "rented for the show" home. Pedro is to blame for his own bad behavior, but so is all the rest of these people. The family Chantel has constantly and willfully disrespected Pedro and Pedro and Chantal since forever and set up this dinner for something to happen. They were planning to provoke Pedro. They are all petty and to blame for the tit for tat that led to a physical fight. And Nicole is to blame just for being Nicole. There are no winners here, unless Pedro and Chantel move away and both agree to not talk to their families and truly work on their marriage.

Cry me a River. I don't doubt that River said that. If it wasn't on camera during this incident; I have no doubt he's said it to Pedro or to Chantel about Pedro (which she's relayed back to Pedro). River just seems nasty.

I think it's just a rude/sarcastic thing. Mother Chantel just worked herself up into a frenzy and basically pumped up her family for a fight- verbal or physical. This stupid woman was on camera taking off her jewelry and Chantal saw her and was making a shocked cow face so for her to claim that Pedro and Nicole had a plan to start a physical fight is just stupid. The family Chantel was ready for a rumble and Mami was egging them on. She probably instructed River to start in on Pedro.

Is there any way we can also deport Danielle??????????

Okay, I haven't kept up with Danielle at all. I stopped watching anything with her in it after she stalked Mo when he moved to Florida; which was ages ago. Can someone tell me why he's still in this country? Did Danielle not go to his green card interview or something? I mean surely there was enough video evidence from TLC alone to attest that they both "frauded" each other and that this was not a serious marriage.

I know, I was like just buy a bigger water heater. When you start earning money, then you can look for a better place. When you have nothing; you should be so glad to have such a nice , big, and clean place to live.

I just saw the episode.........First of all that was the most useless aftershow ever. Does anyone want to see or hear from Danielle or Lauren ever again? Nope, not me. It should have been a 30 min. show with 15 min. of Antonio dissing David and Annie and 15 min. of the camera guy telling us if the family Chantel even lives at that house and what these losers are really like. Molly, your story is done girl. No one wants to hear you rehash the same crap with your weird lawyer. Gather your evidence and get Luis deported. That is the only way she should be allowed to make an update. Pao- She needs counseling or something. It's sad her grandmother died, but she didn't seem to care about her much unless it got her camera time and a trip to Columbia. Nicole- Blame Azan for not getting his paperwork right at his interview and then she does the exact same thing. These two are awful together. I'd rather see a show of Robalee traveling through Morroco with May eating new foods. Peguin and Annie- You don't have a lot of choices, take the job and live in the apt. Beggars can't be choosy. Chantel and Pedro- The family Chantel were planning to fight. They talked about instigating it last week. I give Pedro credit for not punching them all out on the murder cabin in the woods vacation getaway. Nicole was fake, yes, but she was trying to be polite or at least civil (for once). Her interaction between her and Chantel at Chantal's apartment is NONE of the family's business. Chantel isn't 12. Nicole clapping when Chantel is leaving is rude, but nothing to try to start a fight with her over. Chantel should have handled it between them. Pedro's behavior was bad, but I do feel like he's put up with a lot and played dumb and not said anything over really horrible things family Chantel has done and said to him over the entire time they have known him. This was his breaking point. I'm glad River got punched. He should be punched in the face everyday of his life.

River is too invested in his sister. Protect her from what? And how is Pedro freeloading? Because he came to dinner? He works and always has since he was able to in this country. He is not asking Chantel or her family for money .

I love how in the preview David is adamant that he has a masters degree so he doesn't want to work a $10 an hour job. Um, that's $10 more an hour that you are making right now ,LOSER! This guy has got to have money hidden away somewhere or maybe he just really is that stupid. The guy in the preview said there was no stove; so maybe there's a kitchen but there isn't a stove currently? As for TESOL or ESL; to be a teacher you just have to have a certificate; you do not have to be a certified teacher with a teaching degree in education. And sometimes if you are a native English speaker; you don't have to have any qualifications other than that to teach overseas. In the states to teach ESL classes at a school to minors as part of the school day, you probably have to also have a teaching degree or be working on it or have EXTENSIVE overseas experience if you lack a teaching degree. If you just want to teach adult classes at a church or community center, you just have to have the certificate. I minored in TESOL and volunteered in daycamps in a Hispanic community for several summers. I did not get paid. I worked with a woman that was an ESL teacher within the elementary schools, but she also had an education degree and was a certified K-6 teacher.

Pedro , pedro , Pedro...... you don't have to go to dinner with the Family Chantel at casa family chantel to prove that you love Chantel. Tell Chantal NO and then take her out to dinner alone and leave Nicole to sleep on the couch. That said , I'm looking forward to River getting belted by Pedro tomorrow. River should be hit in the face every single day of his life.

I do feel bad for Annie if she was a sex worker. She probably had to do it to support herself or her family. AND David probably lied to her , but she wanted out of that life so bad that she was willing to take a chance like this. Get educated , Annie and THEN leave David so you don't have to go back to what you did before. She's young enough (if her age is to be believed) to find someone better to have kids with and who is a better person in general than David. He's on the road to losing everything again. David is the real harvester of the american dollar on this show. He just harvests and harvests people.

Yeah, I didn't know how all that worked, but they say over and over on this show- they can't work or get a driver's liscense until they get their green card. So, if Annie is doing it; she would be wise not to flaunt that on a TV show.

What do they pay an episode? Even Nicole has to work at a barista job in addition to doing this show. I wouldn't think they would make enough to get by doing only the show unless they are living with parents or something. Then again, look at Danielle. She lost her job and was able to maintain a life with kids in a filthy hovel (with travel!) just doing this show! ETA: I googled and found and article that claims they get paid $1000 an episode. How many shows are there per season? David and Annie can live in the firehouse for a year on that before taxes and have to go without food, utilities, gas for the car, medical care, and clothing. Or they can pay for a vastectomy reversal and live there for less than half a year.

When Annie gets her green card , she had better get to work, b/c David isn't going to do anything.

I felt like Molly was trying to get Olivia's sympathy : "I'm sorry, Mom" "It'll be okay, mom" "I'll come right back and we'll eat ice cream together". She really didn't care about Olivia and how she felt in all of this or really about her coming back unless it was to give Molly support.

Mami Chantel is the dumbest person on this show (nearly) and that's saying a lot for a show with Nicole on it.

I feel bad for Olivia. If she didn't know what kind of person her mom was; she knows now. Her mom will choose a man over her and Kinsley anyday of the week. I don't blame her at all for moving out. Her boyfriend's parents might feel sorry for her I guess that's why she was allowed to stay there. I really hope Olivia learns from this: that she is aware of what Molly's problems are and that she knows that she doesn't have to turn out that way. She can CHOOSE to be different from her mother. I hope she makes better choices and doesn't get knocked up and repeating the cycle of the example she has been shown. Or if she does get pregnant, she chooses to be a much better mother that isn't hungry for any man that comes her way. Get a degree, Olivia and make a better future for yourself- one that doesn't involve being easily led and conned by a man. Get educated and develop your critical thinking skills so that no matter what you do, your outcome will be better than your mothers.

Maybe I dreamed this, but I thought at one point (either early this season or one of the other seasons) it was said that Pedro was working two jobs? He's not asking Chantel for her money, he's not asking her to ask her family for money, he's out there working. While I don't agree with him sending a ton of money back home while he and Chantel live in poverty (which isn't happening), I do understand it and I don't think $300 is excessive. He's still buying his gaming equipment and Chantel has some new girls and drag queen eyelashes. It sounds like he spend his money on the $1000 couch too. When you are young and newly married (and especially if people are still in school) you are sometimes going to be making sacrifices. In a year, when Chantel has a nursing degree and can get a better paying job, and Pedro can start looking for something better; then will be in a better position. Live in the one bedroom apt. NOW and then later you can get something better. These two need a plan, they need to go to legit counseling and learn to communicate and to LEAVE and CLEAVE. They need to come up with relationship goals and financial goals together and leave the family Chantel OUT OF IT.

They look like they feel so uncomfortable in the house in the current episode. no one except Chantel is sitting at first, then I think River sits down. And it's not even a living room; it's like a sitting area in the foyer. The furniture and decor looked staged and that is the feeling I got. They are such a weird family; I would't put it past them to rent a place or air bnb a place for the show. It seems like they would be the kind of people that are terrified of people finding out where they live and coming to harvest them. Um, then don't be on a tv show; especially a freakshow TLC show.

In the Chantel/Pedro thread on the first page, someone rewatched the first episode with them and posted a picture of their house in that episode. It's totally different from what was in this episode. Either they are both rentals because family Chantel is scared of people finding where they live and coming to harvest them, or cheer camp isn't doing so well because everyone sees how awful and fake they are so they had to downsize.

I got the impression that it's a rented house and they don't live there. None of family Chantel seemed comfortable ; they were all standing around in the foyer. I thought their house was shown the first time Chantel was on this show and it was a beige McMansion. I could be wrong though. Aren't they suspected of using fake names on the show as well? Do they think no one will figure out who they are? more stupider indeed.