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Jon looks better in photos than in person. He must know his angles. The previews for next week; he looks not as good in person. Just like Cortney!

Haha! I was thinking of the art dealers:

Good Lort! Rachel- She is reasonably pretty and pleasant . Lucy is adorable. Whoever said upthread that Jon looks like Treat Williams was spot on. She should have asked someone to come with her (her dad maybe). I hope Jon paid for her ticket over to see him. rickey- Desperate . I feel like he shouldn't be discussing everything with his 12 year old. My first thought was that Melissa is a man. Angela-I feel bad for her. Hopefully she comes to her senses if she is not treated well. I get why she is the way she is; it's hard to find love at that age and (having lived in small town Ga.) it can be almost impossible to find someone in a very small town. I met my husband at 26 through mutual friends (he was from another state). I can imagine that at 52 (65, lets be real) it's a lot harder to find someone in Hazelhurst in that age range who isn't divorced a bunch of times, a mean drunk, or who is at death's door and looking for a free nurse. Paul- I hate this guy. Why does he dress like a 70 year old man? Dear mom, he can't find a local girl if he's the local arsonist. I wish Karine would find someone new; she's weird but doesn't deserve Paul. Darcy/Jessie- Didn't he go to the tell all on their last season? I vaguely remember them screeching at each other in front of Shawn. That's filmed in NYC; why is he acting like this is his first time in America? Darcy looks like a real housewife of NJ; I'm sure there are men her age in her surrounding areas that would treat her better than Jessie and have tons of money. He and his family remind me of an SNL sketch.

She will always send him money. And he knows it. He doesn't have to ghost her; just keep her poor enough to never be able to buy airline tickets. That actually might be beneficial for her, in a weird roundabout way. It keeps her from getting involved (and May involved) with any losers stateside with immediate effects.

Her stepfather interviewed that Nicole was still talking with Azan.

I think that he mentioned on the first season he was on that he wanted to something with aviation and train for that. I don't quite remember what he said but he indicated he wanted to train as something . Maybe my brain is just making that up, but for some reason I think he said that or Chantel told someone that! The Atlanta area has a high number of Spanish speakers. ESL classes are readily available there (for free or for a low cost) at churches and community centers. he should take advantage of that. ETA: I googled him and on their first season Pedro explains that he wants to study aviation mechanics. And I think Chantel interviewed the same info. Who knows if he is still pursuing that or maybe he is saving up money to pay for schooling? He hasn't mentioned it since. It's likely that it's on the back burner for now until Chantal graduates from nursing school? Shawn should have asked a question like that because it has to do with the accusations of him being a harvester. If he's there to work to pay to go to school and train for a career eventually it would seem like he wanted to be in the US longterm ; long enough to start a career .

The change in her behavior after they "went off the grid" was noticeable. when she was on the phone with him at the airport and he was demanding more money; he did not sound like a very nice person and I felt like she tried hard to pacify him in that scene. I feel like he probably yelled at her and insulted her (and maybe threatened her) to get the money and when he got it agreed to still go forward in filming with her, changing back to nice Azan and promising marriage someday. After that she seemed sort of sad and stunned as she was robotically interviewing about the store and how it's not time right now to get married. The real sad thing is that this wasn't the end for her (if that did happen), if he's truly a rotten, mean to her, person that stole her pittance she will still talk to him, send him money, plan a future with him, and make May call him daddy. I almost feel sad for her until I remember that she is fully capable of shoving Azan against a wall and probably breaking his neck so she should not have let that money go. But maybe it broke her heart, whatever happened and she was too stunned to react in the moment.

Oh , she undoubtedly gave him much more over the years, but I thought it seemed like this was the big one, the final payoff and then Azan was gonna cut her loose and ghost her. He should have done it before she came over while her feet were still on American soil, b/c $6000 isn't alot after being manhandled by Nicole and pressured in person to marry.If it were $20 K in a lump sum , I get it, but Nicole is dirt poor and that's all she has. It'll be awhile before she can send him anything else (and you know she will).

If Anfisa KNEW Jorge had a child going into this and still chose it; that's one thing. But she was blindsided. Molly thought she could force Luis to care for her CHY_OLDS and look how that turned out! And he knew about them!

Nicole is totally 100% responsible for dragging May into this mess. It lands at her door. Azan is just gross for disregarding a small child in this situation. At least Moho picked a woman with almost grown kids. And it sounded like in the beginning, Mo was giving money to Danielle to help her care for her children.

What makes Nicole so disgusting to me is not her weight or her greasy hair or her love of LuLaRoe or even that she got into this relationship because she was sad and lonely and desperate; it's that she is perfectly okay with using May as leverage towards her family and has absolutely no rational concern about her daughter's wellbeing. Even being desperate, A good mother would say, okay I'm going to meet this man or go live there for a month, but I'm not going to uproot my small daughter and expose her to him and his family because I really don't know them fully. A good mom would not spend her entire savings or extra cash on her pretend relationship while her daughter lives in a hovel and eats fries off of a comforter. And as for Azan, the most disgusting thing about him isn't that he conned Nicole, it's that he willingly took money and asked for more and more from a single mother. And continued to do so. Go scam lonely women with self esteem problems, Azan, but if they have a child- stop and move on. Nicole was an easy mark, but she doesn't have a dime. Azan invested way too much time and dignity to just end up with $6000; 3 years and that's the big payoff?. At least find a woman with a regular income. he succeeded in his con, but now he has a stage 5 clinger in love with him and not willing to let go.

On Demand has only 3 episodes; are there any more?

The show the week before the fight had Chantel's mother saying she was going to do something about Nicole, she took off her jewelry, and basically said she was going to get involved. Chantal sat there and made a dying cow face so she knew what was going to happen at that dinner ; she knew her mother just didn't invite them over for a friendly social meal. She may not have known it would end in an actual physical fight, but she did know that her mother was going to say something to Nicole (and the other family members were going to put their two cents in). She knew her mother wanted to start something nasty. And the whole pantomime of mami Chantel taking off her jewelry indicates she felt so strongly she wanted to get physical. Chantel led them in to be berated.

I think Wafa and Azan look alike in the face. But, I don't think either looks like the mother.

I think if the host asked pertinent questions or "grilled" the people on the show she would not be out of a job. She would actually be doing her job- to interview these people about things that happened on the show not just to make them feel great for being on tv or ask about things that have nothing to do with what happened on the show. Shawn doesn't have to be rude to ask why people are acting a certain way or what is really going on with them. She did need to ask family Chantel why they can't talk to Pedro without hinting at marriage rings, why would they shout immigration , or what do they wish their family could look like with Pedro in it; is there any hope they can ever like Pedro?, etc.... If family Chantel doesn't want to clarify actions or words on this show, then they shouldn't be on it, imo. If David doesn't want to answer if he has a job or what he's doing about a job, then don't film entire segments of a show about that very topic, ya know? I don't think viewers need to feel better, but questions do arise by watching these shows and it would be nice if the host asked questions dealing with what happened instead of tiptoeing around hard topics that they themselves have put out there. If people want to act awful on a reality show; they need to be prepared to talk about what happened or why. I don't think it's wrong or self-serving for viewers, or low to want certain questions asked or to want certain situations clarified. If people don't want viewers interested in what they put out there; don't be on a reality show. Without viewer interest, this show doesn't exist.

This is one of many reasons why Shawn is a horrible host. she should have grilled family chantel over the petty crap they pull. Stupid ole mami chantel thinking no one watches the show "gasp! I thought our blended family was going great! I'm shocked anyone would think otherwise or why it would be going this way!". Um, yeah Karen.

I think there is love under all that lust for them (my opinion) but even if it's not there, her family shouldn't set out to destroy the marriage. It's been 2 years. If you are old enough to get yourself married, then your family needs to step back and let you adult. In the end, Chantel is the one that needs to make choices concerning her marriage; her family shouldn't be forcing her hand or controlling her. If there are true concerns, they need to point her to counseling. Trying to destroy another person's marriage is more than a little controlling ("I'm right, you shouldn't be married, so I'm going to sway the situation to the outcome I personally like for you, it may not be true or not, but I'm going to do it because I know what's best for you even though you are an adult"). Personally, I don't think Chantel and Pedro should have married under their circumstances. They needed to date longer, let her family get to know him as the boyfriend, and THEN gotten engaged. She had the money to keep going there to visit or bringing him here to visit. But, I'm not going to try and ruin her marriage.

yes! Family Chantel were only fake nice to him on that trip. They weren't being sincerely civil to him. Everything "nice" was done or said to poke at him. And Chantel didn't even tell them to shut it or back off, etc... I mean if that were my family and my husband, I'd say I couldn't stay around them if they were going to badmouth my husband with no actual proof and then I'd hole away with him in our room. And I would have driven seperately so I could leave. I mean, Chantel could have compromised for Pedro and driven her own car and said if things get bad we will leave.

eh, I see it differently. He was clear he was there for Chantel. He told them he was going to stay in his space and give them space and that he didn't want to bicker. Everytime they were together, family Chantel started in on him. He responded badly by getting drunk and trolling them (it only added fuel to the fire), but if I had people accusing me at every turn and I had to be with them in a confined out of the way space I'd be sullen and difficult as well.

He was at first; he wasn't saying anything UNTIL they started in on nicole. He greeted them civilly and sat down with them without any incident. Before River said what he said and threw something at him; he was even trying to stand up for nicole in a civil manner (hey, hey, hey; he wasn't telling them to shut up or using bad language, etc... ) THEN he flipped.

If Chantel wants a bigger apartment; she can give up something to pay an extra $100 a month towards that. I mean, when you are newly married and young you sometimes have to tough it out in a smaller apt. for a few years. their apt. seems pretty nice ; like married student housing or something. Chantel will graduate nursing school and presumably get a job in nursing and Pedro can then go to school or train to get a better job and they can save toward a house or condo or bigger apartment. That's life, princess. Thanks for explaining. they are both so weird and gross.

That's probably right. I got it mixed up, sorry! I still don't know why she didn't push to show that it was a fraudulent marriage? I really didn't follow them in the later series.....it was too much stupid

Moho is living in Texas currently and was not deported. He clearly "frauded" Danielle (and she him) , but I guess was able to prove that he sincerely intended to be married to her. They got the marriage anulled (why?) and Danielle didn't push for a divorce (in which case he could have gotten deported). I guess he's not working and living off of the goodness of lady friends (wink wink). Thanks, Danielle. Let's petition to get her deported to stupid land.

Pedro says now he no longer wants to try with family Chantal. BUT in the beginning he DID try. He spent time with them (sometimes one on one), he was respectful, he tried to be kind. Chantal made him lie to them (and he DID NOT want to). They continually were suspicious of him and even after Chantal came clean she sort of spun it like he was the one that wanted to lie; so in their minds he is harvester and part of a marriage ring. Chantal has no one but herself to blame for the bad blood between her husband and her weirdo family. He went on vacation with them even though he did not want to and tried to be civil. They accused him and badgered him the whole time. He and Nicole came to dinner trying to be civil and they baited him and her. I don't blame him for being done with them. He absolutely has faults as well and could handle things better, but her family is the aggressor in this whole thing started by Chantal baby herself.

Nicole cares only about herself and what she gets in life.