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12 hours ago, princelina said:
Interesting! I get that her family cares, but a whole trainload of strangers letting Whitney get first helicopter because she claims she's feeling poorly? Perhaps they were all paid to hang around until the Thores got first copters, and then all hustled back to the train 😃
I'm thinking the latter (minus the pay)! But even if the former, I wouldn't have been complaining that someone who seemed to be in medical distress went first...and the Swiss probably aren't as much impatient a**holes as we Americans can be!
19 hours ago, Pi237 said:This season has finally convinced me that Whitney is in on the joke. She undoubtedly watches every season that airs, and reads all the feedback. This show hasn’t shown her in a positive light since season 1. In fact, they seem to go extra out of their way to make her look bad. No one would endure that year after year after year, unless they knowingly accept the bad edit to keep ratings.
12 hours ago, princelina said:Or she has no self-awareness at all and thinks she looks just fine . . .
Again, going with the latter! She probably sees how much 'good' (in her mind) was documented...her stellar weightlifting performance, all those stairs she climbed that time with Will (trainer and Jessica's dad), her heroic overcoming in the
10K8K5K, her desirability to all theseboyfriendspaid escorts, etc. Add to it that what we see as negative, she probably doesn't, because she was doing the behavior in the first place! For example...she showed up for that 'date' with the restaurant owner's much younger son, looking every bit the matronly, practically 40-year old that she is, and then expressed surprise that he didn't call her afterward. We think that's delusional...she sees nothing wrong with it.On 11/29/2023 at 6:00 AM, BAForever said:No way in hell Glenn announces his moving intentions on the trip- so producer driven.
On 11/29/2023 at 8:17 PM, Meow Mix said:And I was totally creeped out by Whitney telling her to move to Greensboro and live in Whitney's house. That was just weird. I also don't understand why Glenn needs to move to Alabama to help her find her son. I would think that since Angie has made all these contacts so far that she would know more about doing a search like that than Glenn or Whitney. I was glad she shut Whitney down immediately. How many people does Whitney need living with her?
100%. The weirdness of Whitney suggesting that Angie move to her house and occupy one bedroom, away from her large family in Alabama and her own spacious home, to do Internet work in Greensboro, made no sense. I think it was producer-driven, to provide a more dramatic contrast to the reveal of Glenn going to Alabama.
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On 11/29/2023 at 8:17 PM, Meow Mix said:
That episode description made me laugh. It was so dramatic like they were stuck up in the Alps in the middle of a blizzard or something. I suspect the train has issues occasionally and they know what to do.
I really wonder if the whole train-breakdown-need-to-evacuate thing was orchestrated by the show. Clearly it's happened before, and no one was panicking, so maybe the show figured they could get it to happen for them? At any rate, calling it a "rescue mission" was beyond absurd.
On 11/29/2023 at 8:17 PM, Meow Mix said:I agree with @SabineElisabeth that family therapy or at least Whitney finding a good therapist to work through some of this would be an excellent idea.
My thought for one thing she could cover in therapy, is her revisionist version of her childhood, and even adulthood, regarding her parents never praising her or Hunter for trying, and it had to be for getting great results (or whatever she said). Uh, does Whitless not remember that she's been filmed, and we've seen countless examples of Glenn and Babs praising her half-assed efforts?
On 11/29/2023 at 8:17 PM, Meow Mix said:And if it's like every other season ending cliff hanger on this show, it won't be mentioned again just like the big romances with Lennie and Buddy and Whitney flying off to get a proposal from George Glass.
I am mortified that I didn't recognize the George Glass reference, and I will now turn in my Brady Bunch card!
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2 hours ago, Back Atcha said:
What's lip-mimicking called? He seemed to do it more when others' memorization of a script was involved. Of course, WE didn't know it was a script.
I posted this upthread, but it looks like there could be some benefit from posting it again:
I've seen this mouth-moving thing a few times in my life, and it is very disconcerting to talk to someone and see their lips mouthing what you're saying. However, it is a condition called echolalia, and "refers to non-voluntary repetition of another individual's speech". It apparently can be associated with autism, Tourette's, some forms of dementia, and stroke-related aphasia.
15 hours ago, JH Lipton said:Yes, that Nightline. Once the hostage crises was over, it morphed into a "true crime" broadcast.
I think you're talking about "Dateline", which is the true crime broadcast. Nightline is still basically the same news-oriented show that it was years ago.
9 hours ago, DEL901 said:I wonder if the engagement dresses reflect some fundamental differences between Leslie and Theresa regarding money. According to articles linked upthread, Leslie bought a $60,000 dress for the occasion while Theresa wore the dress Michelle wore.
Theresa didn't wear the same exact dress that Michelle wore, as in, Theresa wearing an already-worn dress. She wore the exact same dress design by the same designer, but not in the same color.
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7 hours ago, Crashcourse said:
Not that he's that good-looking, but she looks too old for him, and he knows it.
I actually don't see much of an age difference between them...to me, he looks older than he is.
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On 12/1/2023 at 4:42 PM, Ilovepie said:
And take it down a notch or ten Jesse Palmer - Absolutely nothing happened this episode that SHOCKED US TO THE CORE!
The part I'm annoyed about was that after Leslie was eliminated, he somberly said something about "You think you know how it ends. But you don't." Except, WE DID! It ended exactly like it seemed after Leslie was eliminated. The surprise was that they are getting married, but that was more like the ATFR part, not the finale part.
11 hours ago, GeorgiaRai said:The places I've seen the "lip syncing" discussions have all had replies saying this is common in people with hearing loss - a kind of side-effect of struggling to hear and reading lips. The studio audience and related ambient noise could've made it hard for Gerry to single out her voice, even with his hearing aid; apparently mouthing along with the speaker can help one process & comprehend.
I've seen this mouth-moving thing a few times in my life, and it is very disconcerting to talk to someone and see their lips mouthing what you're saying. However, it is a condition called echolalia, and "refers to non-voluntary repetition of another individual's speech". It apparently can be associated with autism, Tourette's, some forms of dementia, and stroke-related aphasia.
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On 11/30/2023 at 9:25 PM, adhoc said:
Also: In the midst of consoling Leslie in her suite that night, he said if he had known he'd be hurting her, he wouldn't have "started this journey". Is it just me, or did that sound a bit--inauthentic?
Yes, and if I were Treesa, I'd be pissed! It's saying basically, that I'd give up having met Treesa to not have hurt you.
On 11/30/2023 at 9:43 PM, kristen111 said:Joan’s upper face is frozen solid.
Joan looked like she had even more work done, and it's not a good look.
On 11/30/2023 at 9:56 PM, LennieBriscoe said:**"[Treesa] knew how to nurture a relationship" = Some masterful Leslie shade!
Well worded! And OMG yes it was.
1 hour ago, deSchenke said:Access Hollywood had a nice interview with the two of them:
Yes, it addresses the 'ex', but doesn't go very deep into it.
Very interesting. First takeaway...Treesa knows her lipsticks were terrible. Second takeaway...regarding what seemed to us to be Gerry showing more interest in her after the date where she talked about her career, they explained that prior to that, Treesa had been pretty shy on camera and resistant to opening up, but on that date she was just being her actual self. Final takeaway...masterful prepping on Gerry's part about what to say regarding the Hollywood Reporter article!
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On 11/30/2023 at 3:24 PM, boyznkatz said:
I think people are going to be pissed about his lying though. I think parts of that article are probably true, but we have to take it with a grain of salt. We are only hearing one person's account, and that is from an anonymous source.
The source isn't anonymous, as in, unknown to the magazine...the source is presented as anonymous in the article, to protect her identity. But she is a known person, and the magazine indicated having done a background investigation, which was able to verify certain logistical details the woman provided (like addresses).
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On 11/23/2023 at 7:22 PM, Armchair Critic said:
Also check out her old aerobics performance:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cz-AdUas7N8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=NTYzOWQzNmJjMA==
This is priceless!!! She was very very good.
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OMG. I just can't. SMH. Wow. Just watched the latest Murder in the Heartland, "Mother's Intuition". A young mother named Brandi disappears. One of the suspects is her ex-boyfriend Kelly, who is a real sh*t, as are apparently her current boyfriend, ex-husband, etc, all of whom are suspects. Kelly tells the police a few months into the investigation that he got a call from Brandi a month after she disappeared, and he thinks she's in Myrtle Beach, SC, where he says she can make the most money (she's a stripper). Whoop whoop whoop warning bells going off whoop whoop whoop.
So let me get this straight, Kelly. You're the only one who has heard from her...not her mom (who she was very close to), not her friends, not whoever would be taking care of her adored son, not her employer. Just you, an ex-boyfriend she didn't care for and who had been hounding her before she disappeared. And she's not dead...she's still alive! OK, sounds good, see ya.
And that was that. The show literally didn't say another word about the supposed phone call (which would seem to have been a great lead if it were true, and something the detectives should follow), or mention ANY follow-up with Kelly about how suspicious it was that he was the only one who received a call from her, or checking his phone records for the existence of the call (and call location information, if it were there)...a call that just happens to suggest taking attention away from her disappearance as a murder and getting the police off his back.
And I don't think it's because the show chose not to mention it...I think the detectives didn't see that supposed phone call as a red flag, or should I say, a RED FLAG!!!!!!!! Several years later when someone came forward with a confession that Kelly had made about the murder, they decided to check his alibi, which had something to do with a hotel. Turns out he hadn't been at the hotel at all, and thus his alibi was blown and they moved into the mode of him as the primary suspect....which they could have known about YEARS EARLIER If they had just used their brains about the supposed phone call. 😠😞
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17 hours ago, After7Only said:
Yet he said doesn't date Native American women....
I don't recall him saying this...when was it said? And if it's true, then for him to be ruling out his own people says something waaaayyyyy worse than what Lauren said!
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On 11/26/2023 at 11:08 PM, mythoughtis said:
He seriously thought Janelle should come home from vacation to go to the store for him when Aurora was downstairs snd tested negative and was going to classes.
Sure, but the really distressing part is that Janelle was going to do it!!! I know that Janelle has a different story from Christine about what the 'ask' really was. I can't help but think that there was likely some combination of the two versions, with Kody having discussed multiple things he wanted her to do, and Janelle focusing on the one that makes her look less bad. I just don't find it plausible that Christine's version has no basis in reality.
On 11/26/2023 at 11:37 PM, CSunshine76 said:Kody is so full of himself it infuriates me. He’s seething because Janelle and Christine are friends, and thinks it’s only to get back at him.
So even though we see lots of examples of horribleness on the part of Kody and Robyn, for some reason certain ones stand out as proving what we've known all along. For me, in terms of his narcissism, this one is it. For the awfulness of him as a parent, it was that log-splitting conversation with Gabe and Garrison. And for Robyn's true colors showing through, it was the conversation where she convinced Meri that it wouldn't be safe to have everyone over for Christmas.
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On 11/26/2023 at 4:14 PM, ladyscorpio said:
He's lying about it being for all 18 children, he doesn't even speak to the majority of them. He's so selfish, he's using that as an excuse so he can own the majority of the property.
On 11/26/2023 at 3:41 PM, dariafan said:Why does kootie keep calling simpl discussions, negotiations?? And him having a lot “ for all 18 children “. What are they going to be able to do ? Other than sell it
So even if it were true that he was going to leave it to all 18 children, which it isn't, when you start dividing his share by 18, that doesn't leave anything usable for each child, and it would leave a nightmare of 18 competing priorities in terms of what to do with the land. Additionally, there is overlap between the wives and him in terms of the number of kids! So it's not like he has 18 to leave it to, which is such a huge number, compared to zero for the wives.
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On 11/22/2023 at 9:02 PM, Crashcourse said:
Clare treats Cameron like a project she's trying to improve. The man can't even sit on the bus like he wants to because of his long legs without her giving him the side eye.
I could understand asking him why he moved, just to be certain there wasn't some 'deeper' reason, but she kept pressing him even after he explained. WTAF?
On 11/23/2023 at 10:45 AM, Retired at last said:Becca seems happy and I hope they stay that way for a while. It was weird that she didn't wear her cast during the show, but she had it on for the AfterParty.
Emily is the one with the cast. But what is confusing, is that it appears from what we've seen in the honeymoon, that she hurt her right hand in the shower fall. The cast she is wearing on the AfterParty is on her left. So I'm wondering if the 'current' injury is maybe unrelated to the honeymoon injury.
On 11/23/2023 at 12:34 PM, Crashcourse said:I thought I heard annoying TMI "sex expert" Lauren say she wanted fellatio performed on her? Does she not know what that is? Or is she hiding a surprise from Orion? 🫢🤣
LOL! And holy heck, how does she not know the difference in which one is performed on the girl? And with Orion not correcting her, either he was being polite, or he doesn't know either!
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On 11/22/2023 at 4:16 AM, swankie said:
I cracked up when NitWhitney got all huffy about being asked to be in the wedding and faked not wanting Hunter to feel left out and then Jaime turns around and says she had already planned on asking him to be in it also.
It seems that she genuinely thought that Jamie was going to ask her, but not Hunter or Glenn, to be in the wedding (what an egotistical idiot!). So she was all set to go into her fake-caring-but-really-gloating mode, and then Jamie chopped that sh*t down!
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Did anyone watch the Accused: Innocent or Guilty episode "Killed My Mother or Innocent Driver"? That woman is sooo lucky that her husband succumbed to dementia when he did and prolonged her case 6 months, during which time they had that police department dust-up, and she was offered an insanely good plea bargain. The defense lawyer said he thought they offered the plea because all the new evidence had been trending in their favor. But if so, then there is some evidence that they didn't show us, because all the new evidence I saw, kept looking worse and worse for her (the brother's interview, the speeding, the recent DUI). I feel so terrible for her with what's going on in her personal life, but I think she can benefit from that 60-day rehab she has to go to. And Dr. Google says to wait 8 hours after taking Ambien before driving...good for them for finding an expert to say it's a shorter timeframe, but I don't think they'd score points on that if the prosecution did their job.
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On 11/6/2023 at 3:43 PM, TexasTiffany said:
Is this post traumatic Kody disorder?
LOVE IT!!!!!
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On 11/17/2023 at 1:58 PM, Irlandesa said:
Me neither and I thought it was odd that he just said a long time. It makes me think he wants to give the impression he was celibate since his wife died but I do not think that's the case.
100%. He looked kind of like a deer in the headlights when asked that question and trying to come up with an answer. I damn well would have followed-up with "OK, how long is 'a long time'?" I like Gerry, but I think he was panicked that his cover would be blown as the long-grieving widower they are portraying.
On 11/18/2023 at 1:16 PM, Starlight925 said:Teresa has a wig, which is I suspect one reason she got the easier, horseback riding date, as that whole thing would have flown off on a rappel date.
Rappelling would have been nothing wig-wise compared to the wind-in-a-convertible that she had already done!
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IRL, I need some input from my fellow true crime peeps. I recently watched an episode (can't remember the franchise) where the bad guy was a cop, who actually was the one who had delivered the stay-safe presentation to the community. So last month I went to our community's stay-safe presentation delivered by the cops, and they offer a home security assessment, where they will come out and assess your home from the viewpoint of a burglar. I would really like to do that...but there is a nagging worry in the back of my mind, that it will be a bad cop who will exploit whatever weaknesses he finds in a later burglary of my home. Thoughts?
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Is anyone watching the new ID show FEDS? I am so confused by something in the first episode, "Kidnapped". As we saw it, a couple is kidnapped from their house. The woman is let out at the bank to go in and get a cashier's check for $350K. No one is with her and there is no microphone/camera placed on her by the kidnapper. So why did multiple people in their voice-overs, make such a big deal about how she had the presence of mind to pull out her church bulletin from her purse and write a note for the teller that she had been kidnapped???? She could speak! I understand why she returned to the car, cause she was worried that if she didn't, her husband would be killed. But that explains nothing about why, when she was in the bank, she didn't just tell them every single detail that she could possibly remember, to help the cops catch the kidnapper?
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22 hours ago, GiandujaPie said:
The Murdaugh episode didn't really add much other than the investigators talking about how they unlocked the phone
Come on, no one else is going to comment on that? They were thinking of sending the phone off to that place that might take 7 YEARS to unlock it with a special software, yet not one single person in all the previous years, had ever thought to try the guy's birth date?!?!? SMH
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On 11/17/2023 at 12:56 PM, Jax7917 said:
What Tanner said was mean about wishing Gabby was here instead. Meanwhile he was just saying he had a connection with her.
She said that she had revealed things to him that she hadn't told anyone, and if that Gabby-related fear was one of them, then what Tanner said was about the lowest thing he could do (it was still low even if she wasn't the one who revealed that fear to him). I don't care if the producers prodded him to...that's an easy thing to say 'no' to.
On 11/18/2023 at 2:28 PM, Sweet-tea said:What happened with Rachel and Jordan? Did she dump him again? If she wasn't into him the first time, I don't see how it would be different now but she did make out with him a bit.
Yeah, this is what I've been wondering. There's no way they didn't have a conversation afterward, so why wouldn't they show it? Maybe it didn't have enough drama? That's part of why I don't feel so bad for her, because from his perspective, he put himself out there for her twice, and got big-time rejected.
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On 11/17/2023 at 9:43 PM, Mothra said:
So she's lost 100 lbs, and she looks better for it, but she's still dressing and behaving inappropriately.
She's been mentioning the 100 lbs, but it's a little misleading. She is in fact down 100 pounds, but that's from her previous absolute high of, I think, 380, which was from some time ago. If you recall, back when she scolded Buddy for not noticing that she had lost 40 pounds, she explained that she had been at 350, which is what we'd been seeing her at for quite some time. That would put her at 310. We know she got under 300, cause that's what enabled her to participate in the flying. I don't know what she's at now, but it's not like she lost 100 pounds from the 350 that she had held steady at, so she's reaching waaay back to come up with 100. It's kind of classic Whitney, in that there's some of truth in it, but it's a revisionist way of presenting what she did. (Yes, it's still a good accomplishment, though.) And given that she has said nothing about an increased workout regimen, or a great eating plan -- which she definitely would have if that were the case -- it seems like it has to be Ozempic. I just wish she would come clean about it!
On 11/17/2023 at 9:55 PM, Mothra said:Another thing is, he's got to see how unappealing she is, not necessarily physically, but emotionally, psychologically, spiritually--she's never going to attract a partner unless it's some guy willing to whore himself out in order to be on tv.
And that's what frustrates me about all her real-life sycophantic HAES defenders...they stubbornly insist that those of us who find her unappealing absolutely must be fat-shamers, and that's the only explanation possible, with no recognition or consideration that her personality is so grating, off-putting, and toxic.
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On 11/9/2023 at 8:30 PM, Armchair Critic said:
I'm so old I remember his season. Yes he does a good job, he teases them a little but he is laughing with them not at them.
I continue to wish I could travel back in time, because as a "right reasons" viewer from the very first season, I boycotted Jesse's season (the only season I didn't see). At the time, he was already famous, having been an NFL quarterback, and the franchise wasn't yet in its recycling of Bach leads from the jilted finalists on the B'ette (and vice-versa). I didn't like the idea of having someone who was already famous be the lead, so I didn't watch, and now I just want to kick myself...or kick some sense into the overly idealistic me from back then!
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On 11/9/2023 at 9:22 PM, mishap said:
I just hate the clip when Gerry says that he's never felt worse in his life, except for when his wife passed, and that having to just pick one, is a close second. Not his exact quote but that's the gist.
Come on Gerry. I think they were married 40 - some years? That is real life. He has known these women for weeks? Months?
I know he said he felt worse, losing his wife. But he also said this was a close second. This show is a game. Entertainment. If he finds true love, that is great but it seems to me he is diminishing his life with Toni but comparing her loss to this.
I thought him saying that was absolutely atrocious, and if I were his kids, I'd have a tough time forgiving him. I guess I'd have to really chalk it up to the emotion of the situation just overcoming him and temporarily rendering him unable to think clearly.
On 11/10/2023 at 10:12 AM, JudyObscure said:I'm still worrying about the grandchildren. How do you explain that the man they met decided he didn't like grandma? Their grandma! The greatest woman on earth next to Mommy!
I think they should be told that Grandma turned him down because she didn't want to move far away from them. That, they would understand.
Gotta disagree, especially the last part. Some kids are sensitive and may conclude that it's their fault that their Grandma isn't with this great guy that they liked and that Grandma liked.
On 11/10/2023 at 11:27 AM, Laurie4H said:You can develop feeling in a month in a normal situation if you are spending a lot of time alone with the person. But these situations most only get one date and a few group dates where they hardly get one one time with him.
Yeah, it's funny on Bachelor in Paradise, when almost every season that a Bach/ette lead has been on, there is some former contestant from that season and they say something like, "I've spent more time with [whoever] this afternoon on the beach, than I did the entire time of our season."
On 11/11/2023 at 2:09 PM, deSchenke said:I usually regret watching the Women Tell All episode. It's usually a b**chfest or a pile-on. This was neither and enjoyable. The women seemed to have made true friendships and supported one another. Even Kathy, came off reasonable. She owned up to how she handled herself, saying she's the one who should have "zipped it!"
It was sooo refreshing to watch these ladies on the WTA. I can only hope that some of it rubs off on the "ladies" of the younger generation!
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S17.E08: Divorce, Prayers and Spider Scares
in Married At First Sight
I got the impression that Lauren puts on this ultra-calm, rational persona, and it lasts only up until a certain point, and then she becomes quite emotional, which I could believe. However, given that Orion is the one mentioning this, and he seems to pride himself on staying in that robotic unemotional zone, it could be that Lauren being 'overly emotional' is behavior that most of us would consider as normal and human-like!
I loved the beat-down from Dr. Pia. We rarely see the experts 'take sides' or get harsh, even when it's clearly needed. Back in the day, Dr. Jessica spoke that way to Molly about how she had been treating Jon (before we knew the real reason that Dr. Jessica came down so hard on her!). And I recall Pastor Cal doing that to someone...I think it was Chris (of Chris and Paige).
When he was telling her they should take some time apart at their own apartments, I wanted to yell at the TV "Ask him why! Tell him your thoughts about this! Stop letting him be a mealy-mouthed non-explanatory dictator!"
I've seriously questioned when the Afterparty episodes were filmed, ever since Olajuwon was on with a new neck tattoo that wasn't there during the filming of his season. And yes, Orion looked so much better with his hair cut.
I don't think Emily's two injuries were the same, since she injured her right wrist during the honeymoon and the cast she was wearing on the Afterparty was on the left. And that's actually another area where I think she wasn't being true to herself...I think she wanted to be the cool wife on the honeymoon, not making demands or causing negative repercussions, and that's why she didn't get medical help for her injury.
The most ridiculous part of that shorts and shirt outfit, besides how bad the outfit itself looked on her, was that she wore it for stand-up paddleboarding, and if she had fallen in, those clothes would have been very heavy! And I'll join in on the catty-ness...her hair in this episode, in that weird, sort of Swiss MIss and reverse-Princess-Leia thing with two buns down, made her look sooo matronly, and it wasn't helped that it looks like she gained some weight on the honeymoon.