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And then the later comment by Jamie that they had to wait for the pitch to harden, after the earlier scene said they were ready to set sail but were just waiting for dark for ease of sail...bad job editing.

Steven Cree just wrapped on The Outlaw King, about the rise of Robert the Bruce. It filmed all over Scotland as well!

I was so bored. Jailing Jamie? Good god. And yet, I wish we could have had more of him - FINALLY pulling out the photos - than 40+ minutes of boring Claire. Elias, Capt Leonard and Ms Johansson were great, but I really am so over seeing more of Claire. I can’t explain exactly what put me over the edge, but her entire show presentation this season (and lots of last season, too, if I’m honest) drives me batty.

I get that shark and turtle were eaten at the time, but I’m really sad to see them not just embracing but hella enjoying turtle soup. Turtles in the Caribbean now are endangered because of these behaviors, and I’d just as soon as not see a couple I am rooting for thoughtlessly devour and incorporate into sexy times a dish that to me is like the hunters who took out the buffalo as they rode by on trains. So I must be a little on edge while I’m waiting for 308 to drop.

And while I really, really want them to hash out what a crap marriage Frank provided within the show - sexually disappointed and ultimately replaced by a different model - this dialogue is ... good lord, this dialogue is a dud. I have no real confidence this writer understands the established ethos and personalities of Claire and Jamie.

This reasoning provided in the Karen Campbell script is character assassination. What kind of Jamie have they created who can be both horrified at some virtue threat to his daughter and be such a cheap-ass that he's cool letting his daughter's mother continue living indefinitely in a brothel because free rent?

The personal space invasion they've dealt with is horrifying.

We only see Sam and Cait through the lens of marketing and promotion - that's why I said what I did. The only non-acting interactions to judge their off-camera relationship (friends or not) is through comic cons, magazine interviews, etc. Those are all orchestrated through PR teams at the network. :-)

I try not to get too much into the marketing efforts to sell Sam and Cait as avatars in real life for Jamie and Claire. The promotional campaign has done them and their personal lives a disservice. I agree about their joint appearances, but I can't say why - I'm leaning more toward them just not being great at interviewing. They spent some fifteen-ish years just working and being in the creative fields, and now they are promoted as "superstars," which in all honesty they aren't. They are the stars of a popular show, but being a superstar personality is its own job and a lot of successful actors don't want or can't do the superstar charm strut. Christopher Eccleston comes to mind.

Ok. Still processing this episode. I figured this would be an opportunity to streamline the plots of the book - so why spend a giant chunk of time on a surgery to start the episode? I didn't find that useful at all , considering the guy was dead from the title. So, it looks like the Fiend murder plot is gone and Margaret now is a part of a brother/sister fortune telling pair. Actually, I like that. Made more sense not to try to rescue anything substantial from the fire - that always seemed strange how much was saved in the book. I thought the deflowering of young Ian was better this way, too. Definitely a mixed bag. The resentment of Jamie to not raising Brianna and the stupid bikini got an unresolved scene. Claire gets sanctimonious about young Ian and parenting. I guess they are using Brianna as a way to show Jamie's anger at not getting to raise his own children. This is maybe to make Claire already jumpy before Jamie and L's marriage is revealed? I'm not liking their using Brianna this way at all.

This is what I wrote on Reddit, after listening: It was not a fun listen - you could hear the tension, and the banter was tight between Meryl Davis, Toni Graphia, and Matt Roberts. And they kept repeating how much - MUCH - they loved the performances. Very awkward. I wish I were a fly on the wall of the room or on set, as this must have been a hard week for everyone. I love understanding the creation of a show, and so often you don't get a sense of how a terrific production handles missed expectations or hurt feelings.

Nope! I think the podcast is radioactive.

Season four speculation from my own crystal ball: book plots get unwieldy, especially as the "we don't say obvious stuff so the plot can advance" takes over. Granted, Claire didn't mention her young historian helper by name - yet - or let on to Jamie the Doughal/Geillis connection, and it doesn't look like she took a picture of the Scoobies researching with her (which, how awesome would that have been, considering how much the tartan-wear Brianna rocked could connect her to Jamie)... The show stones ease the journey via gems, as has been established. No talk of "anchoring" has occurred... What if Lizzie is removed from the story, Brianna and Roger travel together, and if the Bonnet rape occurs, it happens in connection to their sailing on Bonnet's ship to the Colonies? Roger could still end up with First Nations people via him getting sold off by Roger or something.

This this this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Why say they leisurely talked about 20 years when the next scenes comment anew on things that would have a place in the voiced over dinner convo?

He says "honorable first wife" in Cantonese - not second. :-)