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Just watching the scene with David and the old guy behind the green door. David shows the guy his picture of Lana (and man he's worn that pic out!) and says she's "been my girl for 7 years." "My girl." What a pathetic delusional fool.
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Perhaps Ash's seminar was a colossal disaster because Avery was there cramping his "style." I mean let's face it, "relationship coach" is a BS career if ever there was one. Not being able to flirt with the ladies really sort of puts the focus directly on the fact that he actually has nothing of value to say.
David - "What signs was I ignoring? Because I think I was ignoring some." OMG, lol...well David, you can start by remembering the many signs all your friends pointed out to you. Moron! I'm so happy there was no Lana waiting behind the door. I don't want another Maria situation with TLC tracking down the woman in the pic and paying her to appear or something.
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5 hours ago, mamadrama said:
Also on YouTube if you can catch it before the site removes the video.
yeah. Just by way of info for those of you who can't access on demand, the previews usually show up on Youtube late Tuesday. But they appear and disappear for the first day or so because youtube takes them down. But by thursday that stops and you can find an upload that's watchable without issue. Just search 90df before the 90 days and you'll find them. However, they are often a smaller window in the lower left corner of the screen...done that way to try and get around youtube's auto system for identifying copywrite or unauthorized uploads. But it's still watchable. Hell, in some cases a smaller screen is an advantage. BGL I'm looking at you! lol...
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Nothing says true love like talking to her likes she's 8 while you hand her the sexy underwear you bought for her...
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the way Ed talks to Rose is so icky! His grown daughter must be very proud of dad...
Lisa's constant "mommy" makes me stabby. She's completely vile through and through.
The bi girls are 100% fast forward past for me...boring in the extreme.
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6 minutes ago, Spike said:
If she’s real it would be funny if she gave him the wrong city.
If she has no plans at all to ever meet him and is just doing a job why would she give him any real info at all. Picture, name, location, gender...it's likely all fake.
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5 minutes ago, RealReality said:
The reality of the situation is that any women is subject to being stalked and almost every guy has a "justification" for doing so.
This is why the expectation should be that human adults don't stalk other human adults. Not that you should expect to get stalked if you lead someone on or even if you encourage their attention.
If an adult human cannot meet that expectation, they should be removed from society until they can.
So you're arguing from a fantasy perspective then?
David doesn't have a justification for stalking. Stalking is wrong. Lana (who isn't real) doesn't deserve to be stalked. And yet it's happening. And it could have been avoided...easily (and probably has been but we're pretending the situation as presented is real)
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5 minutes ago, RealReality said:
If he is deranged and cannot be expected to not stalk someone then he belongs in an institution. And then his family is at fault for not putting him in one.
maybe, but that doesn't change the reality of the situation for Lana.
It's like every year where I am there's guys out riding mountain bikes on busy roads in the middle of bad winter weather. "I had the right to be there" isn't a particularly impressive epitaph on a tombstone...
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Just now, Kangatush said:
EXACTLY. That would be taking responsibility for her actions (if she existed). But again, that would be about her and her choices. Even if she were cruel to David, he would still be responsible for how he acts. "I have no choice... she owes me... I deserve an answer in person..." That is all total bullshit without any basis in reality because David is only in charge of his own actions and reactions.
Of course, but he's deranged. Expecting a person who is obviously deranged (having actually done this 3 times already) to make the rational choice is not realistic. There's two people involved here. One is obviously a deranged creep (again, assuming the story is as it's being presented. Which it probably isn't) and the other is a woman stringing him along. Is it rational to expect the deranged lunatic to "take the hint" or would it be wise for the woman to "take the hint?"
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5 minutes ago, Kangatush said:
FITY 🙂
I think two concepts are being blurred. There's responsibility, which is just a fact, and there's what someone "deserves", which is pure judgement.
For example: If I make the choice to hang out with tigers, I need to accept the responsibility that something bad may happen. I also do not deserve to have my arm ripped off.
Not "deserve" maybe, but I'd say "expect" might be realistic. Like that guy who used to go out every year and live with the Grizzlies...until the Grizzlies decided to eat he and his girlfriend.
Lana (who isn't real of course) is a woman who now knows she is dealing with a dude who has flown around the world 4 times and been stood up by her. If I was her, and I had used any of my real personal info during my interactions with this guy, I'd be seeking protection.
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1 minute ago, RealReality said:
That. Is not her job. Her job is to be chatty with these guys online and give them the girlfriend experience.
And if the theory is that he wouldn't have done any of this had he only known she wasn't interested I think that's untrue,
He knew darn well she didn't want to meet him. But he "had invested so much" so he needed to see her in person. He "knew she would be mad" because he knows she doesn't want to meet him.
So he knows she doesn't want to meet him, but he has decided to stalk her and ambush her. Knowing that she doesn't want to see him
yeah, he's a creep. And if she's a real person, she is too.
Her job (if she is real which isn't likely the case) is to be chatty with guys. It doesn't have to be any specific guy. She doesn't have to string guys along for 7 years and as you note she gets nothing from getting him to come to the Ukraine. She can chat with any of likely dozens of other guys rather than David...
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4 minutes ago, RealReality said:
How much more clear can she be when she hasn't given him a phone number, has never initiated contact, has never met him, won't give him an email address or a social media account?
How much clearer can that be after seven years? The only place she will talk to him is a chat room where he pays $2.99 a minute.
"we aren't in a relationship and I won't ever show up no matter how many times you come to the Ukraine."
That much more clear. Or like I said, just ghost him for good and move on to the next loser.
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16 minutes ago, Kyanight said:
Lana has said that she wants to marry David and come to America. She said she wanted to get their pictures taken and get her Visa. After she refuses to meet him when he flies to Russia, she makes up excuses and starts the whole situation going again. He's a true idiot for not getting the message - but she takes the chat job too far, IMO.
It's one thing to string guys along to make the chat service big $$, but you don't have to encourage a doofus to fly out to meet you FOUR times. I'm not saying David doesn't deserve what he gets - but why are people seeing this as one-sided? There are consequences for all of our actions. If you don't want to get burned, don't play with matches.
yeah, I mean someone mentioned strippers as a similar situation where a woman is just "doing a job." I get that, but most strippers know enough not to make dates with dudes they just lap-danced. If "Lana" is a real working woman who has to be concerned for her own safety (as in she doesn't have a Ukrainian crime organization to look after her), SHE needs to take the hint when she realizes that David ISN'T taking it. She really has all the power in the situation. She doesn't HAVE to string dudes along for 7 years to get her 2.99/minute. She can just as easily tell David to fuck off and move on to the next guy.
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17 minutes ago, Normades said:
I completely agree. They are both at fault here. He's a creep and she (or whoever is behind the curtain) kept things going knowing he was a creep. Lana scheduled meetings with him and led him to believe she would be there. Apparently, she even provided an address for her ticket on a cruise. She has some responsibility. If once it became clear that he was really making plans and coming to meet her she had told him that wasn't on the table, I could give her a pass, but she kept playing with fire.
I hope it's some big, burly, pissed off Russian behind that door. His face would be priceless!!
yeah I mean let's face it, in the real world (aka not "sharp-landia") if David does this, he's highly likely to end up getting a beating and then a ride to the airport...if he's lucky.
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11 minutes ago, RealReality said:
Why should she have to tell him what he is? He is a client who only talks to her on a chat service. That's it. And she has been crystal clear that she is not interested in more. If he is too stupid to realize he is a paying client and nothing more, it doesn't mean she deserves to have her safety put at risk.
Why shouldn't she do her job? David's feelings are not her responsibility. She isn't responsible for stopping him from spending his money on a fantasy relationship.
She has never once initiated contact with him. She had never once given him a phone number. She has always stood him up. She has never given him an email address. She has never given him her social media accounts.
But now she is responsible for making sure he correctly interprets these very clear messages? She isn't allowed to do her job because a sixty year old man spending his money is her responsibility?
I posit that David's actions are his responsibility and that no one, no one deserves some guy ambushing them at their house so that they "learn a lesson" because they "led them on."
I think that is a very, very slippery and scary slope and has been justification used by men for years to excuse all sorts of horrible behavior towards women. The sort of behavior that men have justified over the years with the "but she was leading me on, so she deserved it" defense is staggering.
you keep saying she's been crystal clear about not wanting more out of the relationship. That just isn't true. We all know what the reality of the situation is. But if you want to argue based on a hypothetical "real woman just doing her job" notion then she should have been more clear about the nature of their interaction. Standing him up and then returning and continuing the scam online when he's proven himself to be perfectly willing to get on a plane and come to meet her is asking for trouble. He's creepy obviously, and she's almost certainly not a real person, but if she is I don't have a lot of sympathy for her. She's playing a very dangerous game and she bears some responsibility for the situation too...
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I love David's reasoning that wandering around town and just happening to run into Lana would be less weird or surprising than just going to the address he has for her. lol.
Is he a "stalker" though? I don't know if that's really a valid characterization of the situation. If you could read back through their chats over the past few years and find a single instance where she said "no, I don't want to meet you ever. Stop messaging me" then maybe...but once she's gone so far as to invite him to fly across the ocean to meet (several times) I think you've sort of lost the ability to play the stalker card. She can't really say "I didn't think he'd actually fly to the Ukraine" at this point.
That of course assumes there's anything truthful about the whole story at all.
And yeah, chances are that's not her real address anyway. David probably knows that which is the real reason he'd rather just wander around hoping to run into her, lol.
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1 hour ago, DEL901 said:
Her message was so brief and impersonal, but he got so excited. No wonder “Lana” has been able to string him along for 7 years. If the Lana in the photos ever walked in, he would keel over. Or find an excuse to reject her like he did Anya. He wants the fantasy woman. A real one would scare him.
Yeah his responses to her incredibly lukewarm and unenthusiastic messages are so weirdly over-excited that if he is for real, I'd say he has mental issues, lol.
He's come to the Ukraine to meet her. She doesn't show up at the train station. Then she leaves him hanging for what, a couple days? Then she sends him a message asking if he still wants to meet. He says yes and asks her to meet him the following day...she says OK and that's it?? She logs off? No "I'm so sorry I couldn't make it two days ago and then didn't message for 48 hours. My bathroom door jammed and I was locked in there..." or any sort of BS apology at all? And he just laps it up! lol...I just wish it were all real!
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7 hours ago, RealReality said:
So, let's assume for a second that Lana is a real woman who really lives in wherever the hell.
A man she has refused to meet suddenly just decides to show up in her city, admits to it and goes around to your favorite haunts asking people if they can give him your personal information. After you've ghosted him and stood him up.
If Lana was a real person, this is so stalkerish and abnormal. I think we laugh because it's a scam, but if a woman has been this clear that she has no interest in meeting you, and you so all this....you're a stalker.
That David honestly thought that she was going to meet him and suddenly want to start the Visa process when she has ghosted him several times is just so weird.
And OMG, that darcy'esque bird bath. Yikes. At least he didn't spray any axe or body fantasies colonge on his balls.
Men who cannot take no for an answer aren't cute, they aren't pitiful they are scary and creepy.
Yeah, but if she's a real woman (a big "if" of course) then she HASN'T said no to him. She's done the opposite! She's continued to communicate with him and to take part in "plans" to meet...and then just hasn't followed through. Now you can say he should take "the hint" but if the hint is followed up with more communicating and then new plans to meet? I mean yeah, David is an idiot who should get the message (again if we are assuming Lana is a real woman)...but I don't think it's really a "stalker" situation. If Lana is a real person, she's obviously catfishing him and scamming him for money in which case, she gets what she deserves...and so does he. Neither of them is "innocent."
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LOL...David! What a sad sack loser. I'd imagine that eatery is near the factory where the online "dating" gets done. There's likely a constant stream of losers getting stood up there. He sat there for an hour...and then STARTED to get concerned! So he sat for another hour (or more) just to be sure. haha...
Yolanda's daughter "You gave him your address???"
Yolanda "Well I'm still in love with him." That pathetic look on her face that says "what can I possibly do?? I'm in love! There's no room for rational thought or logic when you're in love! All you can do is trust that it's love and keep doing love stuff!"
I'm pretty much fast-forwarding through all the other couples at this point. Even BGL isn't very interesting. I just like the dummies that are getting cat-fished...
haha omg Stacy is working hard to keep from breaking out into a huge grin listening to Darcy at the end there! 😂
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ash sounds like he swallowed a book called "How to Make Women Think You Understand and Share Their Concerns"
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Tom fights dirty. The weight comment was ice cold!
I so want the whole David story to be true! And I want it to go about as wrong as it can just short of any actual harm coming to him! lol...please let Lana be a 300lb Ukrainian gang member. Please!!
No Yolanda in this ep so far, but I certainly look forward to her saying things like "I'm very concerned about this" and "I don't understand what is going on" followed by "I still feel like it's all just a big misunderstanding."
Bi girls. BORING!! Vocal fry. ANNOYING!!!
I mostly skip over Ash and Averry.
BGL & Usman. I hate her.
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The vocal fry is getting worse with each episode. I ff over pretty much the entirety of the bi-girls segments...
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I like how David is now gonna "get tough". No more mister nice guy! Lana had good reasons for not showing the first 3 times he travelled several thousand miles for a first date but this time is different! lol...
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I don't see why it's a problem that Varya might have made an effort to meet an American man to build a life with. She's single. If she wants to come to America it makes perfect sense for her to take a shot at maybe finding love with an American guy. Why not? Does Geoff have any interest in living in Russia? It would be a problem if she was just willing to marry ANY WARM BODY to get to America (a la Usman?) but if she's honest about trying to find a real relationship with an American it seems fine to me. He's an idiot afaic...she seems great to me. I mean she's lucky he's an idiot because he's also dangerous, but he's an idiot to not see how great she is...
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S04.E11: Private Eyes
in 90 Day Fiancé: Before The 90 Days
Ed is one skeevy little fucker! He's so weird! Seriously, in the pool it looked like a father playing with his little girl...and the way he hugs her!? Like a kid hugging a teddy bear...or a pet! So gross. Plus, the evil of waiting till now to drop the no kids bomb. What a pos.
David. I don't even know you and I'm embarrassed for you. You are pathetic! Grab a pair and move on man! But that won't happen of course...