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7 hours ago, SPLAIN said:
Hi all. I have found some time to come and post for a bit in between all this holiday chaos. I tried posting in yesterday, but found it just wasn't going to happen.
I have been thinking about this deleted scene ever since it was linked here by @CofCinci. It truly bothers me that these people, particularly a girl who has nothing going on in her life other than chew the fat, chew her non-existent nails, and lie around getting more fat, can actually stand there on camera and make comments how B&T could not be so busy in life to work around her busy life.
Kim: "It's just aggravating to me because I don't think anyone is THAT busy. We are all busy but I could stop for two hours or a day." Cate interrupts: "That's what I saaaaaaaaid."
Tyler in response: "That's what we said."
Kim needs to take a seat. IMO she is no better than Butch. I'm beginning to see what the attraction might have been all of those years ago. Their self important bullshit opinions are identical. Their expectations of strangers are ridiculous. These people really think their opinion matters.
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And while being trapped in the car with her.
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3 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:
Alrighty then. Maci is a hopeless alcoholic and no better than Ryan.
I'm afraid there's a misunderstanding. Nobody is better than the other and that was certainly not what I was conveying. I just find it tragic that Bentley has two parents with substance abuse issues. Yes, he seems to be a great kid and if he's an achiever that can happen regardless of parenting issues. It's an apples and oranges scenario IMO.
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3 hours ago, hudsbee said:
I wouldn't use her drinking one or two times while she was pregnant to diagnose her as an alcoholic. We don't know how much of this show is scripted but if she was showing, then she certainly would be in her second trimester. A lot of women in Europe will have a drink occasionally while pregnant and they are not all alcoholics. I personally think no alcohol is safer but it is even debated by Dr's, which we are not.
Not a huge Maci fan but I think she has done a great job raising Bentley. He is polite, does well in school and sports which requires a lot of parental time and money. Wish she would stop with the ears and tats too.
3 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:I am not a Maci apologist because I honestly don’t respect any of these people for selling out the privacy of their kids.
But I thought the story was she did not realize she was pregnant? I have known women who drank (I am talking educated, degreed professionals who are very good mothers) who drank not knowing they were pregnant. One did not realize because she spotted some early in her pregnancy and thought it was just a light period. She was shocked to find out about 13 weeks in that she was pregnant with her second.
And she had been drinking in the earliest weeks of her pregnancy. I am not talking about alcoholic levels but a casual, social drinker who had some wine and margaritas throughout the first 2-3 months of pregnancy. There really was not social media then except for MySpace. lol. But if her circumstances were happening today, I am sure people could look at her Instagram, do the math, and castigate her for drinking while pregnant. (Her child is fine - does very well in school. I am guessing she drank no more than our mothers did when pregnant with us.)
2 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:Based on what - social media posts? (Not being difficult - I have always just heard the rumors and never saw proof but I was not looking for it, either, so it very well could be out there.)
Well we all look through our own eyes and see different worlds. Nothing will convince me that this woman doesn't have a problem. I am an opiate addict and my daughter just graduated with her Master's Degree. Unsure what that has to do with anything.
Not trying to be difficult.
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9 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:
How do we know she drinks constantly? If I went by what I saw on my own social media accounts, I'd think half of the women I know are problem drinkers because of the constant wine references. I'm not saying she doesn't drink or even she doesn't drink too much sometimes. But I'm not sure we know enough to call her an alcoholic or someone who constantly is drinking alcohol.
When you're drinking when you're pregnant (and trying to hide the pregnancy) you're an alcoholic.
Yep I said it and I stand by it.
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6 minutes ago, AmandaUnbidden said:
You know I do kind of feel bad for Jen. I understand that she really loves Ryan and just wants what's best for him. I'm sure after hearing that he's triggered by her crying, it makes her think his addiction is all her fault. I do wish the rehab counselors had made it really clear that just because Jen gets upset, it doesn't mean she is driving Ryan back to the drugs.
Now if the parents in question were Butch and April, then yeah I could see placing some blame on them for raising an addict. And in a situation like that, having them acknowledge their faults and apologize for any abuse or neglect could really help the addict going forward.
So if there was any abuse going on in the Edwards household, and I'm not saying there was, but if there was, I'm looking at you Larry and your temper, then it might be helpful for Larry to see that how he treated Ryan as a child might have contributed to his problem today. A heartfelt apology from Larry with an acknowledgement of wrong doing could really go a long way in helping Ryan.
But again, when it comes down to it, Ryan is an adult. And as an adult he is responsible for his life and the choices he makes. He has to decide for himself if he wants to get better and if he's willing to do the work to get there. I would venture to guess that a lot of addicts (not all) but a lot of them probably had some bad home lifes. And I also bet that most of their parents are never able to come to any kind of self awareness of their actions or their failures as parents but that person gets better anyway because they want a better life for themselves and any children they may have.
The sooner Ryan stops blaming everyone else and starts taking responsibility for himself, the better off he'll be. Of course that will be realllt hard for him to do with his parents enabling his every move. If his parents, including his hard ass dad, are backing him up and jumping on board this blame game, then how will Ryan ever come to the realization that his addiction is not anyone else's fault but his own? It's sad really.
^^^So much this
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34 minutes ago, AmandaUnbidden said:
Completely agree with everything you said. This article annoyed me so much because it painted Larry and Jen as some kind of saints, which they are not.
I'm also annoyed to see the trigger talk again. If Ryan is triggered by something, that is on him. He has to learn through therapy how to deal with those triggers in a healthy way. It will take tons of hard work on Ryan's part. He will have to really have a true desire to get and stay clean. It is not anyone else's fault that what they are doing or how they are feeling triggers Ryan. These triggers are Ryan's issues to deal with.
God they are all using these triggers to blame everyone else for Ryan's drug addiction, when in reality, Ryan is responsible and Ryan alone. The sooner he realizes that and accepts full responsibility, the sooner he can start getting better. From all I've seen so far, I would bet every last dollar I have that he's already back on heroin or will be shortly. Maci is right to be concerned.
It's been my experience that these drug rehabs do little to nothing about educating patients on personal responsibility. IMO that's a huge step towards getting and staying sober.
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On 12/20/2017 at 0:19 PM, StayingAfterSunday said:
Butch is pitiful, but I'm guilty in that I feel sorry for him after seeing his visit with the shrink (Tyler was there, too) when he told about his childhood.
Since TM is considered Reality TV I'd rather see ten more of Butch than one impeccable Macy.
I lost any pity for Butch when he marched himself over to meet Carly after B&T specifically asked him not to. He's an adult long past childhood. It's time he moved past (notice I didn't say he can get over it) blaming all of his shortcomings and poor decisions on a bad childhood. Nobody cares, Butch. Grow the hell up.
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2 hours ago, dabronx said:
I find Ryan saying Jen tears are a trigger manipulative as fuck and I don't believe for a second it's true. Jen probably cries the most at Ryan's lack of desire to be a father and Ryan's fighting with his dad is normally about basically wanted to do whatever he wants whenever he wants it without considering the impact on anyone. Ryan's trigger is life and the fact that he's blocked from navigating it free from any obligations to anyone but himself. He should say "I'm a selfish dick and my trigger is being asked to do anything that requires acknowledging anyone else's feelings or needs. I run to heroin to escape the slightest hint of other people's expectations of me giving a fuck about anyone but myself." It sure as fuck isn't about Jen's crying.
So much this^^^^
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10 hours ago, gunderda said:
I think during the special with his parents Jen and Larry shared how they met and got married and it was SUPER fast. I think her pregnancy was a really fast oops and they decided to get married right away. I want to say it all happened within a few months? From what I recall they weren't even that serious. Larry just demanded they would get married.
During the Edwardses special Larry mentioned that he met Jenn through her sister (they were just friends) and their first date was bike riding. I thought Jenn said she was pregnant within 30 days. Does anyone else remember that?
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29 minutes ago, Rebecca said:
What is Hatter Nation? Link?
She sounds like a complete idiot too. Definitely not sticking up for Jenelle (!!!) but UBT talks plenty of shit and stirs up drama with Jenelle’s family and exes too. UBT is just as crazy as Jenelle.
I’m actually surprised they’ve publicly shown how much their marriage sucks so soon. I definitely thought they’d hold back to try and prove us all wrong, at least for awhile longer.
It's a Facebook page. I can't post a link because I'm Facebook stupid. Just put Hatter Nation in the search field. It's not a very busy page but there can be great snark when shit comes down.
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On 12/12/2017 at 6:57 PM, Rebecca said:
Holy shit that blog post! She’s the worst.
The way her eyes darted when Ryan was asked by the lawyer if he could pass a drug test said it all. She’s not confident he can pass.
Also, Jen and Larry now say they knew...so we are to believe they never told Mackenzie?
I almost believe that one. Larry was desperate to get Ryan out of his house and saw Mackenzie as a 'live one' so to speak. I could see them trying to hide the dents in the car.
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22 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:
I definitely noticed it, but I think the camera person was shading Nathan by showing us 1) how ridiculous Nathan was in his (long sleeve?) button shirt and white shorts and 2) that Nathan skips leg day.
Cannot stop laughing
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Someone on Hatter Nation said David has deleted his instagram and Jenelle's no longer says she's married. I give it until noon when Jenelle posts some lame excuse as to why it happened.
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12 hours ago, GreatKazu said:
I think they rented it. However, I have noticed they have a new camper in their driveway.
I figured that's where Butch-I-haven't-been-with-a-woman-in-four-years-Baltierra lived.
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2 hours ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:
My mom always had 2 and 3 jobs when I was a kid growing up. One Christmas she worked at Walmart as a night stocker during the holiday season. It was brutal. They changed her shifts all the time, they’d pay her overtime, but the bare minimum number of hours they could stretch, and she was exhausted. That Christmas was so epic but even at the age I was I knew she worked her ass off to make it happen. It’s why whenever she asks me to do stuff I try to hop to. She deserves it.
She raised a great daughter too.
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Was Adumb charged for breaking Stasia's arm or is this why he was arrested?
Keep going asshole...soon you'll be begging Chelsea and Taylor to bring your daughters for visitation in prison.
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1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:
Many have asked why Matt would always drive and not Amber.
She is also a hypocrite.
Amber looks the same as she did before she had her mommy make-over. What a waste of money. I hope the narcotics she was prescribed were worth it.
I was noticing that too. That surgery was all for nothing. She's either gained weight or the makeover surgery just sucked.
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Those cowboy boots that Emilee was wearing when Leah hurt herself looked so cute on her.
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4 hours ago, ghoulina said:
I can believe it. Look at the way Jen raised Ryan. He doesn't even think kids should have chores! I imagined Bentley is really catered to when he goes over there. I think Maci was making a point that when he comes back he expects to be waited on like he is over there. As a child of divorce with TWO very different households, I can't totally hate on the kid. The adjusting is hard. But I can also understand Maci's frustration with having to break him of bad habits several times a month.
My ex and I shared 50/50 custody of our daughter. There was always an adjustment on Fridays when she switched houses. Different house, different rules and the fact that we lived with my parents (who were chomping at the bit to get her back from her Dad) made changing houses somewhat of a difficult event for a few hours after arriving back with us. I'm not proud to say that my parents acted just like Jen and Larry do when it came to Sarah. What I'm trying to say is that "switch" day is a change for any child regardless of where they are. It's unavoidable.
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Did Mackenzie really think she was going to escape the scrutiny and criticism that the others get who appear on this show?
These people have no foresight whatsoever.
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52 minutes ago, mamadrama said:
Well...I am obsessed with Elvis myself. We have quite a bit of Elvis memorabilia around our house, and even my kids are getting into him. I don't compare myself to him, however, or try to emulate him which is what I think these girls are doing with Marilyn.
That's so awesome! My mom was a huge fan and when she passed away she left her collection of Elvis memorabilia to my husband who is also a huge fan. It's now displayed in her curio cabinets throughout our house. I love feeling as though she is represented throughout our life and home.
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I could support Maci 100% if she got rid of her holier than thou attitude.
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Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None
in Teen Mom 2
I just read it too. Hilarious!