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Yay, more talking! Yawn... Wake up Carol, and get to slicing, please.

Wake me up when something actually happens

Way too much Beth and Dawn. Where the hell is Carol?

Oh, so now Maggie cares. Oh please

Dear show, I don't care about Dawn's sob story or personal philosophy. Get to executing the plan and Rick killing some people. Thanks!

Crap, he survived. Ugh, why am I getting the awful feeling they are saddling Michonne with FPP this season?

Is it wrong for me to be rooting for the zombies to eat Father Pee Pee? I'm tired of his angst and stupidity.

I really, really love KillEveryone!Rick.

Did not enjoy this episode at all. It was filler. I had PTSD-like flashbacks of that episode in Season 3 where Rick and the Governor did nothing but glare at each other for an hour, while Andrea tried to play peacemaker. At least with that episode, the characters were consistently written. The writing was just bad here. Why would you ever take a conscientious objector-type like Tyreese on a mission where you are planning to kill people. Did the whole Martin incident teach them nothing? Meanwhile, you leave Michonne (aka "the weapon with a weapon") back at the church to watch the kids? Okay. Something about Sasha rubs me the wrong way. I just don't care about her grief over losing the her boyfriend of ten minutes. It's like Karen and Tyreese all over again. Did we really need to devote that much time to her issues during this episode? Maggie was tough this episode, but she's still boring and still having a successful memory-bypass about her sister. Where the hell were Rick and Daryl during the second half of the episode? They seemed to have disappeared. Finally, you know its bad when you think that the Beth parts of the episode were the strongest. She, at least, had a mission and managed to accomplish it this episode.

Not interested in Sasha and her pain. She knew Bob for all of 8 seconds.

This ep is all over the place - the writing kind of sucks.

KillEveryone!Rick makes me all tingly. Just sayin'.

There is so much stupid going on in this episode right now. First Tyreese goes on the rescue mission instead of Michonne and now Dawn trusts Beth. WTH?!

In the "making of" video that AMC put out for this episode, one of the producers, Denise Huth says that Carol's motivation in helping Noah was about saving Daryl at that moment. She basically didn't want Daryl to turn into the kind of guy who would leave some kid (that's how Denise referred to Noah) who was begging for help. So that's what the scene was supposed to be, but as is often the case with the writing on the show, that wasn't clear at all,

In YNB and CM Punk's defense, it was TTD that prompted the "shipping" conversation. First, with that viewer poll about being sad about Daryl and Carol not hooking up and then Hardwick asking YNB her opinion. But for the show stirring it up, I don't think it would have even come up.

Great episode. Melissa McBride and Norman Reedus are both incredibly strong actors and among the few remaining originals from Season 1. I was interested in seeing how Daryl and Carol would interact given that they had been separated most of last season. I also thought the flashbacks of Carol here were effective for a change since I was annoyed last season that the show spent 2 whole episodes on the Governor, while not spending any time telling us what happened to Carol after Rick sent her away. While I love Carol (and like Daryl to a lesser extent), I do think I would have enjoyed the episode more had it not just been followed by two weeks of bottle episodes, which I feel this show REALLY overdoes. I don't understand why this show can't handle A and B plots at the same time. Combining the three storylines from the Beth bottle, DC-bound crew, and Carol and Daryl's mission over the last 3 episodes, instead of focusing on one story at a time, would have felt a ton less stagnant. They really put a dent in the great forward momentum of the first 3 episodes by doing these bottle episodes. I also disagree with that idea that Michonne and Maggie's development are being sacrificed for Carol. Carol got little development and barely any screentime during the first 3 seasons and was MIA for most of Season 4, while Maggie and Michonne were front and center from their very first seasons, Seasons 2 and 3, respectively. Melissa McBride is so talented, and I'm glad the showrunners are finally recognizing that, given that it's not everyday that you see a 40+ year-old woman turned into a complicated action hero on TV.

The writing was so-so this episode, but I liked the episode overall. Re: Carol leaving the group -- I'm thinking Carol's guilt is more about Lizzie and Mika than the K&D thing