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16 hours ago, maggiemae said:
I was uncomfortable with Sunny seemingly to think her children should not marry until 30.
I used to like Sunny but she's become a whole mess of contradictions. A couple weeks ago, she was saying that she wanted more kids, but Manny said "no more" after they had two. Then earlier this week, when discussing the "perfect number" of kids, Sunny says that she only had two because she didn't want to be outnumbered. So which one is it?
Then (also last week or the week before) she says that she preaches abstinence to her kids but when Yvonne Orji says she's a virgin in her 30s, Sunny doesn't seem to believe her and questions whether or not she's a "technical virgin". Then she says that she doesn't want her kids getting married until they're 30. So, she wants her kids to be abstinent until they're 30 but doesn't believe someone when they claim to be just that? Okay then....
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1 hour ago, Sharper2002 said:
Oh, Whoopi. I personally don’t know any millennial that works 4 hours a week and expects to be able to buy a home. Instead, most of the fellow millennials I know have just accepted that although they work their butts off, the likelihood of them owning a home, having a large family or retiring with a comfy pension is nil.
And while this doesn’t encapsulate all millennials, the majority of my millennial friends rent, are child-free or only have one child and just get by on the bare minimum health insurance plans. Her comment almost made my head explode.I think this depends on your social circle. I'm a millennial and the majority of people I know (within the same age range) have kids and own homes. Everyone I know who doesn't have kids just didn't want them. It had nothing to do with finances. Not having say, six kids could have come down to finances but again, most have 2-3 kids. Same with home ownership. I know a few people who rent but that's due to life choices (living in an expensive area, choosing to stay in a lower paying job, etc), not because it was unattainable.
And they really should differentiate between Millennials and Gen Z. Millennials are 27-42, while Gen Z is 11-26. So yes, right now there are a large number of Gen Z living with their parents because the majority (even the adult ones) are still at a stage of life where they're either in school or just starting out. Also, the pandemic set people back, especially if you were just starting college or a career.
One thing no one ever brings up in these discussions is how there's a good number of Baby Boomers who have a hard time passing the torch (looking at you, Congress) or letting their kids grow through failure. Everyone I know who's in a failure to launch situation (or whose parents still pay a lot of their bills), have parents who keep stepping in and "rescuing" their adult children, instead of letting them tough it out for a few years or learn from their mistakes. It's like there's a generational savior complex going on and I'm not sure why. Maybe because the WWII generation was hard on them so they swung hard the opposite way and over help?
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4 hours ago, After7Only said:
I watched the 20/20 story on this last Friday. It was pretty good and answers a lot of questions, but not everything. She was given away before they were killed. Per the story the adopted dad told, one of the ladies in white said she was the mother. She wanted him and his wife to raise the baby. The parents signed away the parental rights in order for them to adopt. He and his wife had 1 kid already, and were unsuccessful trying to conceive again. So they took the baby. I don't think the police or social services were involved. it was also the 70s and times were different.
Watching the 20/20 episode right now and after the cultists showed up with the baby (supposedly one of them was the birth mom), the adoptive parents contacted a lawyer who handled the adoption. So it was basically a private adoption and a notice was put in the paper announcing that there was going to be an adoption hearing for an abandoned baby.
Also, it was the 80s, not the 70s (though 1981, so almost the 70s. Just bigger hair. LOL)
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1 hour ago, GiveMeSpace said:
So what got from the Baby Holly interview is that if your loved one is missing, you just have not prayed hard enough to find them. Keep begging God, y'all. Beg hard. She thinks her parents were in a cult? Sounds like it runs in the family.
Glad she found her relatives. Tragic story. Bad advice, in my opinion.
I found that story rather confusing. When the cult ladies showed up with the baby, weren't the authorities called? I mean, if someone randomly just showed up at my door and handed me a baby, I'd be calling the police. Maybe it was treated as an abandoned baby case and the adopted dad was given temporary custody until the adoption went through? And was Holly given away before her parents were killed or after? And is this cult still going on? They didn't really go into any details. Guess I'll have to watch the 20/20 episode if I want to know more (Could also read the book...but I don't feel like it).
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2 hours ago, maggiemae said:
Whoopi drove me crazy today.
First, about KK's nipple bra. She definitely defended it without saying why really except for women with mastectomies, and for climate control.
On Kim's instagram she says the bra has "faux nipple for shock value." And donating 10% of sales as a one time donation to "a global network with thousands of businesses and environmental organizations working together to support people and the planet." On and on about when it is hot you will look cold. Source: Hollywood Reporter.
Whoopi bothered me she was so excited about this and KK's wealth and dismissed most women (even those trans or with mastectomies) do not want to wear a bra with had nipples and dominated and dismissed the others.
Then she later totally took over explaining directing for a woman talking for Coppala.
That conversation about the nipple bra was giving Emperor's New Clothes vibes. I felt like I was watching an SNL sketch, with them fawning over this ridiculous idea. It's a dumb idea and I can't believe that no one said just how dumb it was!
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37 minutes ago, Haleth said:
Yeah, I think she was trying to make some point equating women choosing abortion to men masturbating, but I have no idea where she was going with that.
That was the weirdest discussion about abortion that I've ever seen. No one was making any sense and everyone seemed to be talking about something different.
As for what they were supposed to be discussing, yeah, I think most people would say that if you're in a committed relationship and accidentally get pregnant, that the couple should discuss what to do but ultimately, it's the woman's choice since she's the one that has to carry the baby and, if we're being real, there are dudes out there who will say they want the baby, but then disappear once the baby is born. And while accidents do happen, if you're not married, you need to be using both a condom and some kind of female birth control because while both of those have a possibility of failing, the odds of both of them failing during the same encounter aren't high. And I don't know why people are coming for Justin because while I think he's probably a jerk overall, he was right that neither he nor Britney needed to be parents at 19.
There. Was able to cover both abortion and Britney without brining up masturbation or how many kids married folks agree to have (which were both so off topic, it was laughable).
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10 minutes ago, Haleth said:
Considering she keeps mentioning her Jewish grandfather it’s surprising she’s so ignorant about the conflict in Israel and Palestine.
Yes, I guess my public education served me better than Sunny's private one because we learned about the troubles in the Middle East when I was in high school (and I'm fifteen years younger than Sunny, so it was certainly within her lifetime). Honestly, I feel that Sunny's one of those people that doesn't see nuance. Everything's very black and white to her and she needs to have a "side" to be on, so in a case such as Israel/Palestine, she's not sure what to do.
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10 hours ago, Back Atcha said:
What if it was daughter's wedding #3?
This is what I was wondering. I'm hoping that her daughter is middle aged and that this wedding is her second and taking place at a courthouse. If her daughter is only in her mid-thirties and this is her first marriage and it's the fancy ceremony with the big reception, then that's pretty f-ed up of Sondra (Sandra?) to miss it.
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4 hours ago, DearEvette said:
I wonder if they will do an after the altar with this crew since only one couple made it to the altar? They are already so messy. LOL.
I don't know, something about Lydia makes me think that she's going to want a baby pretty soon, so if she gets pregnant, I could see them doing a special around that. Otherwise, yeah, I don't even know what they'd show.
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3 hours ago, leocadia said:
I noticed that too and had to laugh!
Also, who walks down the aisle to "Ave Maria"? Is that a thing? Maybe they couldn't get the rights to whatever song was actually used, but I thought that was an odd choice.
I think "Ava Maria" was played at some point during my wedding prior to me walking down the aisle. When some of the wedding party were walking out or something. We had a harpist and she gave us a list of songs to choose from and while I don't remember exactly what we picked, I do remember that "Ava Maria" was on the list. So I guess it's a somewhat common choice?
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I hated everyone's dress expect for Taylor's. Johnie's was okay, very beauty pageant but at least she wasn't in danger of flashing the audience, unlike the rest of the women. Lydia's dress from the side was insane and Stacy's dress kept seeming to hike higher and higher as the reunion went on. If I were going on something like this, I would wear a happening jumpsuit or dress pants. No way I'm going to sit through an hour plus worrying about my bits being exposed.
And except for Milton, Taylor, Aaliyah and possibly Lydia, everyone just kinda sucked. All the men (save for Milton) were a-holes this season and the women were just sad. I can't even with the fact that both Stacy and Johnie made out with Izzy after the way he treated them. Have some freakin' self respect. Also, why was Tracy putting up with Izzy grabbing her leg multiple times during the reunion? Was this filmed before the last episode aired? Did she not see him say there was a reason she was still single at 33? Then there's Johnie crying over Chris. Please. I have no time for that. I did enjoy several of the faces that people were making while others were talking though, as well as Chris and Johnnie just straight up having their own private conversation while Tracy was speaking.
Ugh, this season was just the worst. None of the couples were good and everyone was just overall awful.
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14 hours ago, marny said:
I’m no fan of Stacey but I thought she was perfectly kind at the altar. She was basically saying “Not yet”. Which is totally reasonable. And she didn’t do it in an embarrassing way or a cruel way, and it even sounded like she wanted to keep moving forward with their relationship (whether that’s a good idea is another issue, but I digress). Yet Izzy acted like she told him to go kick rocks. So dumb.
Yes! Stacy said that she wanted more time but did want to continue seeing Izzy, which, given that he'd just revealed the night before that he has serious financial problems, is perfectly reasonable. And what does Izzy do? Acts like a complete mitch and starts throwing around insults. Of course he didn't want to give her more time to figure out their relationship. He knew that if she had more time, she'd figure out how awful he is! Does he even have a job? Because his explanation for what he does for a living didn't sound very convincing. Stacy wasn't my favorite but Izzy was a complete tool.
Milton and Lydia, guess we'll see. Curious to see how they're doing at the reunion. When they were at the altar and Milton hadn't answered yet, my husband's comment was, "Don't do it, my man. He's too young to recognize all the crazy in those eyes." LOL. Who knows? Maybe Mitton's chillness will even out Lydia's drama? I mean, probably not but we can hope.
On to the reunion!
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29 minutes ago, Tammy12 said:
How hard is it to keep your phone on silent when you're on live TV?
Joy's went off either last year or the season before that. Really, there's no reason for them to have their phones with them at the table. If they're so worried about an emergency happening while they're filming, then have a PA on set with an emergency phone that their families can call. I mute my phone before going into the library, a movie theater, a beauty appointment, etc, so I feel that they can leave their phones in their dressing rooms for one hour a day.
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So a few things I'm going to need covered in the reunion:
1) What exactly is Izzy's financial situation? I need details and a timeline (would also like the same for Uche and Lydia's relationship).
2) Do Stacy and Lydia not own any full length tops? I get that crop tops are in right now but does that mean all their tops must be midriff baring? (And while we're on the subject of clothing, I need an explanation for JP's patriotic wardrobe. Is that how he always dresses or did he do that to stand out on the show?)
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I've got to admit, I found it hilarious that all the women disliked Uche so much that when he was going on about Lydia, they were all just giving him deadeye stares and when Stacy interrupts his tirade to snap at Johnnie, he just looked flummoxed. Then, when he tried to steer the conversation back to himself, all the women let it be known that they did not like him and were not here for his bs. LOL. Amazing.
I thought Izzy's mom really wasn't having it with Stacy until we got to Milton's family, who really weren't having it. Those were some uncomfortable interactions. Not that I can blame them. Every time I watch one of these dating show, I try to imagine how I'd handle it if one of my kids put me in this situation and yeah, I don't imagine I'd be happy.
As for Stacy/Izzy and their unified attack on Johnnie... I feel that Izzy's behavior came down to him being drunk. That's the only reason I can come up with for his weird, unnecessary conversations with Lydia and Johnnie. Stacy, on the other hand, seemed to have all her wits about her, so I'm not sure why she was so mad at Johnnie. I get being annoyed that Johnnie started talking crap about her in the pods after Izzy dumped her but Stacy got Izzy in the end, so why is she so upset? Even if Johnnie and her had become friends in the pods, I'm not going to be that upset over a two week friendship ending. The only guess I have is that things weren't going well with Izzy, so she took it out on Johnnie.
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7 hours ago, Empress1 said:
Yikes indeed! Honestly, to try and avoid situations like this, they shouldn't be waiting for contestants to come to them, they should actively be checking in once a day to make sure everyone's okay. Especially in Mexico when they expect two people who have just met to share a room (And I'm sure the fact that people have developed feelings for each other makes it more confusing). Guess that explains why they didn't show the other couple who made it to Mexico. This season really is such a mess.
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The only guest who looks marginally interesting to me is Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I feel must be doing this interview as some kind of favor to Whoppi).
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I'm hoping that the convertible was actually being pulled by another car the entire time because if they put someone in their 70s in a car without headlights and told them to drive on the freeway at night, then the production on this show has lost its mind.
I also felt that the wedding dress photo shoot was cruel. The other outfits were all more costumey and fun but a wedding dress has significance. Which I'm sure is what they were counting on but it just seems very ugly and insensitive.
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8 minutes ago, peeayebee said:
While a reunion of the Three Amigos would be cool, I don't think I want to see Chevy Chase in the show.
Chevy makes sense to me, with the Steve Martin/Martin Short connection. Even if he turns out not that great, he can't be as bad as Cara Delevingne or Amy Schumer.
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I find it so freakin' patronizing when people go on about women doing things like not wearing make up as if they're brave and courageous. I'm 41 years old and most women I've known don't wear makeup all the time. I'm sure there are women who wear it because they have low self-esteem or are self-conscious but I think that most of us just wear it because we like to. I love makeup and depending on how I feel, sometimes I do an entire glam look, sometimes I do a minimal look and sometimes I don't wear any. Pamela Anderson probably didn't wear any makeup because she just didn't feel like it that day, not because she's trying to start an anti-makeup revolution. I swear, people in the entertainment industry think the entire world is LA.
And don't even get me started on whatever the heck Sunny is doing to her pubic hair...
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19 hours ago, Irlandesa said:
I'm happy we got to see Paul Rudd and Meryl Streep singing together although I'm confused about the resolution to that mystery. Did the nanny do it?
No, in the final scene of the play, the nanny says something along the lines of, "So you're the killer" to the detective (Paul Rudd/Martin Short's role) and he answers with, "Yes, but I'm also the father." So I'm assuming that the mother left him and moved to the lighthouse (possibly because he was nuts and she was trying to protect her babies) and he found her and killed her, then either pretended to be a detective or actually is one, and used that as a cover to try and get his kids and apparently killed the constable in the process. The nanny figured it out and pushed him to his death, thus saving the triplets.
I liked this season the best overall. The murder wasn't that hard to figure out (and a bit of a trope) but at least everything was logical, thought out and there were no loose ends. With seasons 1 & 2, I feel that it's really more the atmosphere and the dialogue that are enjoyable whereas the actual mysteries make no sense and are very all over the place.
I knew the second they showed "Charles" in the dark apartment it was really Sazz. I'm with @paigow in that Sazz used her dying breath to spell something out in blood which the trio will of course misinterpret until the last episode (possibly second to last) of next season.
I do wish that the elevator killer had been Tobert instead of Cliff, just because both mother and son going to jail (as one of them dies from cancer), is just really sad. I was holding out hope that Mabel would discover footage on Tobert's camera of the fall, proving that he'd been there secretly watching from behind a cracked door or something, but no such luck.
I hope Mabel gets an actual job next season because 30, aimless and unemployed is not a good look.
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6 hours ago, LuvMyShows said:
Really makes me wonder if this year they did like they have in previous years where there were other engagements in the pods and for whatever reason they chose not to keep following those couples, or whether there were just only 3 total engagements this season. I can't imagine if there really were more engaged couples, that they wouldn't have them come along on the couples getaway too, since more couples to follow equals more potential drama leading up to marriage day.
I read an article somewhere online where the creator (Or producer? Someone who runs the show) said that their were some other couples that got engaged (and one even made it to Mexico) but they decided not to show them. Maybe they were all too well adjusted? If that's the case, I feel that they made a mistake because this season could use a few couples that aren't a complete mess.
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On 9/30/2023 at 4:25 PM, shapeshifter said:
…Is telling someone to be nice to themselves using third person grammar a currently hip thing to do?
Or is something else going on?
Using the third person is very common when it comes to self-help or therapy these days. I'm not sure why. Maybe it makes it more personal? Or it helps the person to look at themselves from an outside perspective?
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On 9/27/2023 at 7:07 PM, Empress1 said:
Stacy is really hard-looking and I think it’s partly because her makeup is … bad. Her foundation is a shade too light, her blush is too dark … she needs a makeunder.
Does anyone know if this show has a makeup artist? For the pods portion, at least? Because if they don't, it might be a good idea to hire one because both Stacy and Taylor's makeup is pretty harsh.
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The View: Week of 11/6/2023
in The View
I think when Sunny was new to the show, she was on her best behavior and as she's gotten more comfortable, more of her real personality has come out. And to your second point, I do think because Meghan was so volatile and loud, it caused everyone else on the panel to tone it down and be a lot more measured with their responses, just because she sucked a lot of the air out of the room. Now that Meghan's gone, there's a lot more room for everyone else's crazy.