Mojoker

Thanks! Interesting. It would never occur to me to shop at J.C. Penney's, so I never realized the clothes weren't being produced.

I'm sorry, but that was some nonsense on the finale last night. I think Michelle is a perfectly lovely person, and I'm sorry she and her husband are having financial problems. but she wasn't the best designer on this show. I think Dimitri's response to her win was perfectly valid. It was painfully obvious his collection was light years beyond Michelle's. It felt like a pity win to me.

By the way, is there anything Ashley Jensen isn't in right now? We're watching her in After Life; we're watching her in Catastrophe; I'm watching her in Agatha Raisin; we just recent finished watching her in Love, Lies and Records. I live in the Chicago area and I fully expect to turn on the local news tomorrow night and see her at the anchor desk. The woman is ubiquitous!

My husband and I just saw this episode tonight, and it sparked this exact discussion between us. It's a hard question to answer. On the one hand, I can see that Tony understands how Julian feels and recognizes that there's little chance that Julian's life will ever improve. That would seem to suggest that giving him the money was a kindness. On the other hand, where there's life, there's hope, and there's no reason to believe that Julian couldn't get himself together with the proper help and encouragement, so giving the money to someone in Julian's state of mind could almost be argued to amount to manslaughter. I can see both sides of it, and I can't decide what's right.

Can anyone tell me when Dawn and Roy were married? We've watched every episode (we're currently nearing the end of season 5) and not only do I not remember seeing or hearing of them getting married, but I've searched episode guides and Google and can't find any mention of them getting married. It seems like Roy was being commitment-shy, then the next thing I know, they're talking about Dawn being pregnant and I'm thinking, "Wow, they seem pretty cool about an out-of-wedlock baby for the 1950s!" Then someone calls her Mrs. Briggs and I'm scratching my head trying to figure out when that happened. Anyone?

We only see Meri for a few minutes at a time, from a distance. I can't imagine what it must be like to be up close and personal with her passive-aggressive negativity all the time. It must be exhausting.

I'm sure she's shaken to her core. 😏

I don't think they moved for any reason other than Kody got restless and decided he wanted to move. Based on all the wives' reactions to the situation, that's their take on it, too, but they feel like they have to go along. I find it heartbreaking to see the kids' helplessness at having their lives ripped apart again for no good reason at all. I looked at their properties on Zillow last night. They're no located in either of the places they were looking at on the show.

Clearly not since they didn't buy the piece of property Robyn wanted. No they wouldn't. She behaved perfectly appropriately through the "divorce crap" and people are still losing their minds over everything she says or does.

He didn't say only the spiritual marriages matter. And if Robyn hadn't said that she's the fourth wife and she knows her place, then a thousand people on the internet would't been screaming about her arrogance. She simply can't win.

I don't hate Robyn, and I've never understood the people who strike out at her no matter what she says or does. She seems like the most sensible one of the bunch, and the one least likely to kiss up to Kody in all this madness.

Robyn didn't say that. Christine said, "I'm the third wife; I know my place." Robyn said to Meri, "You're the first wife." Ironically, the land they bought isn't in either of the places they looked at on the show. Also, Meri and Janelle both have jobs.

When Bethenny wasn't talking about her divorce, while it was going on, viewers (including people on this board) went after her for thinking her private life is so much more important than the other Housewives' that she doesn't think she has to share. So now, the divorce is over, and she's said some -- very few, very infrequent, very minor -- things about the situation, and people go after her for airing their dirty laundry in public. It's clear she can't win no matter what she does, or doesn't do. But when Bethenny says the few things she's said on the show, there's a chance that Brynn and her friends will hear about it. But when Jason shows up at Brynn's school and makes a big scene in front of Brynn and her friends, there's no question that Brynn's directly affected by that. Jason knew that Bethenny was a TV personality; he really dug it when he got to be one, too. So maybe he needs to think about that before he decides to be an asshole. What he does and says in public is fair game, and he knows that. This sounds slightly insane, I know, but, somehow, I feel that he and Dorinda kind of look alike. I don't know how to explain it.

But there's a big difference between kids being allowed to set classroom rules and curriculum and kids being allowed to express an opinion about which of their possessions they can keep and which they must let go. Allowing them input isn't the same as allowing them to run the show. An adult is always going to have the final say.

But Lu isn't old money. I actually appreciated the fact that the wedding dress she showed off on the show was her actual wedding dress. So many times I've seen these shows where they make a big deal out of finding the dress, and the "this is the one!" moment, only to later see wedding photos and find they're wearing something completely different.