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Clement, his mentor from S1.

The EP said it was J falling in love with his mark so you take aligns. I personally didn't see the in love part but I did see it as conflicted feelings when he cried over her body. Same. They were all hardened and cold blooded to various degrees by the life. With J, he let his hate for what his mother had become fester and drive him to his pyrrhic victory. I also got why he was so angry at all his uncles for erasing Julia from their thoughts even once they became adults and made some of their own choices. Again, I always think about that S1 birthday party for Pope when J had to remind them all it was also his mother's birthday cause it was like "Julia who?" for them. The only character I saw as any type of sociopath was Smurf. She was also a raging narcissist.

I like both DVD and Harper, flaws + all, but I'm not enjoying their sexual interactions. Their talk on their respective origins was good but as soon as they hooked up, I lost interest. I don't really see sexual chemistry between them plus it also seemed inexplicably shoehorned in to make them have sex suddenly cause while DVD has shown interest in Harper, I didn't see genuine interest from her (not to mention it's a bad idea since he's her supervisor). Pass on the "romance" but more of their origins & working in finance while Black talks, please. I'd like to think Harper shutting DVD down on the elevator when he asked her if she slept with someone else has put the kibbosh on further hook ups with them. I did work in finance in my 20s at a big company and while most of the sellers were arrogant assholes, it wasn't constant sex and drugs though there was lots and lots of alcohol (+ some alcoholics). I admit things did get a bit frisky at times between us younger folks due to the liquor and apparently one of the interns was the sugar baby of a seller but nothing really too wild like stories from the 1980s on Wall Street. 😉 I know the show is an exaggeration but sometimes it does feel like they use graphic sex a bit too much in the place of regular dialogue in a general conversation between characters so I just end up fast-forwarding over the long sex scenes. I thought 2x05 was good with all the family drama but particularly the stuff with Harper & JD and Roberts Jr & Sr.

I think the talk Rob & Yasmin had in 2x03 when she came over "to see Harper" & tried to use him so she could feel some power in her life and he ultimately rebuffed her by calling her an intoxicant then bringing up their class differences ended whatever that took up time in most of S1 (thank God). I've always felt that while Rob wanted Yasmin for most of S1, cause that situationship was addiction for him as well, it was dying out by the time the first season came to a close and his bond with Harper became much stronger. This season, I haven't seen any flirting between Rob & Yasmin aside from Yasmin trying to come on to him that one night. Rob hasn't been seeking Yasmin out this season for flirting or sex or even really just to talk shop. Then again, I've always thought Yasmin didn't actually want or even really like Rob, but that she just wanted power over him cause she felt so powerless in other facets of her life and Rob's addiction issues made him easy prey (for lack of a better word) for her to ensnare in her power games. When Yasmin came over in 2x04 while Gus, Rob, and Harper were hanging out, Rob couldn't wait to escape to his room even though Harper asked him to stay while Yasmin was there to unload her feelings. I just don't see that situationship between Rob and Yasmin that was pervasive in S1 truly existing anywhere in S2. They seemed to have both moved on other than that one attempt from Yasmin that Rob said nah to.

I enjoyed the finale. Not perfect but it went by quickly. Only thing I was hoping would happen but didn't was an Adrian appearance. J was all about getting revenge for his mother as he told Pope in the pool scene. I didn't think he would take Penny out that coldly but I knew she wasn't going to join him one way or another. J didn't get a happy ending unless his HEA was solely the decimation of his family for how they treated Julia but HEA was never truly in the cards for J even with the success of his plan. Craig getting Omar'd as his exit. Deran holding him on the cliff as he died was well done and a tearjerker. Deran promising to help Renn and to raise Nick like his own son was 😢. Pope burning down the house was fitting too. Too much bad stuff and memories there. Pope dying as the house burns down worked for me too. He let J go cause of his own get of not being strong enough and going with Julia instead of choosing Smurf. Smurf really was an irredeemable monster. As soon as she saw Julia and Pope bonding over the baby, she dropped Julia back off in the drug den. I may need to go watch J kill Smurf again after how vile she was towards Julia in the car. Baz's brief appearance wasn't much better. TPTB obviously changed the timeline to make her younger with her pregnancy to make Baz the definite dad of J (even tho the show had Smurf IIRC kinda confirm it already I think in S3). I do wish we'd gotten one more ep if only to explain how Smurf ended up putting Julia in an apartment and paying her rent / utilities til the days Julia OD'd.

Didn't Craig kill a few folks who kidnapped Nick?

IIRC, they're both 29. Jared & Kat and Tyler & Serenti have respectively been posting hanging out post-Villa. Someone told me Mady & Andy have too but I haven't seen anything firsthand. Supposedly Courtney mentioned in an interview that she & Bryce are DMing each other.

My comment was about J's perspective in why he is ok screwing them over. All he sees is his mother's family let her down and didn't care. The head of the snake is Smurf but the others didn't exactly shed any tears about her either from what we saw onscreen. Maybe Pope some initially. Remember J had to even remind them all during Pope's birthday party in S1 that it was his mother's birthday too cause they all had basically erased Julia years ago.

J visiting the cemetery at the beginning of the ep. We start with him staring at Baz's headstone before moving on to Julia's headstone to stare at it (which, beloved daughter only... which was a lie cause we've seen how little Smurf thought of Julia... but no mention about beloved mother or beloved sister. Of course Smurf made Julia's headstone about Smurf). J didn't even pause walking by Smurf's headstone. I know he sleeps like a baby after killing her.

We? Also watching how Smurf destroyed Julia and Pope in these flashbacks, I only wish she had suffered much more before J took her out. I thought they hadn't seen J since he was a toddler so they knew of him and maybe spent some time with him when he was an infant but that seemed to be it. At this point with the flashbacks, I'm hoping the show will end with J's birth in kind of a full circle of things. J taking the money from Deran, Craig, and Pope... I feel kinda bad for them but I also see where J is coming from that it's not like they did anything to help when they were adults.

I'm always going to root for the Black women on dating shows cause there's so much misogynoir at play in these shows so Zeta has my full support. I also like Deb although I wish she had a stronger backbone about Jesse. Sydney is eh... I don't like or dislike her but I wish she would cry less and be less aggressive in her lipstick / lip gloss choices. Mady and Courtney are just there; not adding to the show but not detracting either. I find Jared really hot tho him being another guy just wanting any blonde made me RME (and I say that as a blonde). Outside of Jared, the guys are meh to bleh for me.

I thought so too until the ladies brought up how weird his speech was and that they were shocked when he ended it picking Kat cause it didn't mesh with what he was saying as it sounded like he was talking about Sereniti. I didn't think Sereniti was in to Chazz, especially after some of his really immature answers during Perfect Match, but I didn't like the way he went about things the day of the recoupling. Chazz was making his own side of the bed & cooking Kat breakfast then later reassuring Sereniti that he was invested in her. Too bad Jeff didn't pick Sereniti over Nadjha cause Nadjha already crying over wanting Isaiah and I don't understand that at all. I did enjoy Sereniti's goodbye handshake and parting words to Chazz. I don't think Kat is really in to Chazz either but he was a gullible way in to the villa for her to now focus on Isaiah or any casa amor guy. I like this turnabout for Chazz.

Clark really took Jordan to the Fortress and left Jonathan to do all the chores alone. 😒 Clark's favoritism between his sons this season has been almost as annoying as Jordan's one-track mind about Sarah.