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A nice interview - http://ew.com/tv/2017/04/10/homeland-rupert-friend-quinn-dead/ Answers a lot of questions RE Quinn's character - about kid's photo, backstory with Adal, Carrie, etc Rupert does say he wished Quinn had received a better send-off

that'll be the only good thing about this season. Hope he does get it.

I cannot believe it!!! they killed off Peter Quinn. I am so done with this show. and to add insult to injury, his death was for nothing since the President has turned into some monster overnight. Small consolation to see Dar rot in prison. they should've killed Saul, or Carrie, for all I care. and make a show with Quinn (after serious rehab)

the last episode was too soap-operish. where will they now go from here? all storylines got wrapped up in a little too-neat fashion. and Ben's constant smirking / smiling is getting old.

Another interesting interview : http://deadline.com/2017/04/homeland-season-finale-spoilers-alex-gansa-emmys-claire-danes-damian-lewis-rupert-friend-showtime-1202064212/ About season finale and next two seasons.

Alex Gansa on season's finale: 'I think first and foremost you have to look at the Peter Quinn-Carrie Mathison relationship. That was the first dramatic scene of this season, Carrie and Quinn together in that VA hospital. In large part, that has functioned as the emotional center of Season 6. One can expect that that relationship is going to come to some head in the finale, because that was the first and foremost idea we came into this season with — so there’s that on the table. There is also how the show plans to dispatch this season’s villain, and this season’s villain is the deep state, that permanent government led by Dar Adal in collusion with Senator Elian Coto and with General Jamie McClendon. These people have been conspiring to first persuade a President-elect to change her mind about her policies, and then try to coerce her to change her mind about her policies. Now it looks like they may try to kill her in an attempt to change her policies. So that story is coming to a head and will be resolved one way or another in the finale. Then finally, Saul Berenson and where he fits in. A man who has served as the moral conscience of the CIA in our storyline — in what way does he come to terms with his own agency and its checkered past and its current troubles? Where does that all come home in the end? That also will play a big part in this last episode.' Full text here: http://deadline.com/2017/04/homeland-season-finale-spoilers-alex-gansa-emmys-claire-danes-damian-lewis-rupert-friend-showtime-1202064212/

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/what-its-like-to-survive-a-sarin-gas-attack.html - apparently, some survived the attack even without a preemptive atropine shot. So, Quinn's survival may not necessarily be 'jump-the-shark' moment (although the fact that he is still alive after all the shootings/stabbings etc definitely is)

well, Rob cut of Carrie rather sharply, who was trying to tell him about the new developments. and he didn't mention it to PE. don't know. just a hunch. but can be completely wrong, of course. And I think I mistook one of security guys talking to Rob for SG (they all have kind of similar bland faces )

Sure looks like attorney general and Rob (chief of staff) are in it together. Which amounts to highest-level conspiracy possible. wonder how Keane will be able to trust anybody on her team after this debacle (if it turns out to be true). But then again, the storyline will most probably be dropped next season when they move overseas

Does anyone know if Rupert Friend has signed up for next season? Seems kind of pointless to kill Quinn now, after he miraculously survived all that had befallen him.

Can someone explain how it can be that Quinn was being set up as a patsy in an assassination (apparently, a long time ago) and a subject of a hit order at the same time??? Are there several plot-masters working at cross-purposes? Both unknown to Dar? I like the show but the writing is pretty disjointed. And has been for a while.

"We have an audience of one" and the whole 'close the grand jury' strategy was a direct quote from The Good Wife's episode about Will Gardner's judicial bribery case ('Another Ham Sandwich' episode, I believe). I wonder if that was intentional or just laziness on the part of the writers who resorted to recycling their old scripts. I am surprised they didn't use 'grand juries indict, that's what they do, hamburgers and all'. that said, the episode was a great fun to watch. just not very original

I must have missed something because I cannot understand how Chumhum got hold of deliberation transcripts. Surely, the clients are not usually privy to a company's inner workings? Wouldn't it still mean that somebody at the company (not Julius, apparently ) leaked the information - but to chumhum, not to the blogger?

Exactly! He looks awful! David Schwimmer and Matt LeBlanc look much younger by comparison, even though they are actually older. On The Good Wife Perry was in a better for.

Completely agree with all your points! I hope they don't ruin Marissa's character. She was great on the Good Wife but is a bit off here. Would love to see more of Kurt. Is there any hope of Gary Cole becoming a regular?

Margot was great indeed. I really like the actress. Rhys, on the other hand, is immensely annoying. And Alice's face expressions are too. Generally, the show is entertaining, although as far as conmen shows go, White Collar is still vastly superior. Let's see where the Catch goes this season.

so now Ben is basically becoming Neal Caffrey? with an FBI deal? seriously? couldn't the writers have come up with something more original? (I'm halfway through episode 1 now, so mb things will change)

Just a random thought (and mb somebody has already posted this): what if Flynn was somehow set up by Rittenhouse to go on his missions precisely with the aim of making Lucy's mom well again (since she is apparently some big wig in the organization) and bringing back Emma? Mb Rittenhouse is some kind of female club with women calling the shots and masterminding the whole operation)))))) On another note - the episode was quite enjoyable. But what's with Mason's personality transplant? That was awfully convenient (just like doctor/fiance being readily available to patch Rufus up. Was it mentioned previously that he was a surgeon?). And what were Jiya's visions for? Her only purpose in this episode was to keep Rufus company while Wyatt and Lucy went about their mission. Overall, despite all its shortcomings hope the show gets renewed. Would love for Goran Visnjic to get better storylines next season (but that probably is not gonna happen. Regrettably )

yeah, it would be great to see more of Kurt. overall, the first two episodes were nice (with the pilot slightly more entertaining than the second episode) but there was a bit of 'same old, same old' feeling - with running jokes like Howard Lyman's flower comments or the men's room door slamming into the wall of Lucca's new office, or those two weird tech / finance guys with their 'algorythm'. hopefully, the spin-off will be sucessful in its own right

Mason is so not Greer ))) The NSA guy, though, is just about as menacing. Overall, I wish the writers finally got their act together and shaped the Rittenhouse storyline better.

well, it can, like on Person of Interest. But unfortunately, Timeless writers don't seem that capable. So yes, it's a disturbing sign.

so basically, Conor Mason has developed AI on the scale of Person of Interest's Samaritan/the Machine? and now wants all NSA feeds? not a very original idea on the part of the writers.

it's a pity the main story is developing at a snail's pace and is still quite confusing. Feels like the showrunners can't really make up their mind - whether they want a procedural (basically focusing on various important events in American history) or a serialized story with this Rittenhouse, whatever that is. And with the serialized story it's not quite clear if the writers actually know where they are going. There is this frustrating lack of general drive / direction. For a conspiracy-themed show, Timeless just doesn't quite deliver the goods. I initially started watching Timeless for Goran Višnjić - really liked him in ER (and yes, in this episode, there were glimpses of his ER performance). but it seems that either his acting capabilities have greatly deterioritated since ER (which I struggle to believe, because he was terrific in ER- great acting range), or the writers don't really know what to do with Flynn - he appears more of a plot device than a fleshed out character. Maybe things will take a better turn if the show doesn't get cancelled after one season (which, I think, is a distinct possibility with the current level of writing). After Alamo episode, Timeless is getting better and better. wish it had happened quicker, though

yes, it is indeed quite interesting to rewatch - you can truly appreciate how well-written the show is (kudos to John Nolan and other writers) and how all the story lines are woven together with great attention to small details. Happens so rarely on TV. I especially liked Finch and Reese's (and later Shaw's) backstories - how their respective pasts inform their present-day decisions. Didn't particularly care for Root - she was so very unlikeable in earlier seasons - but the way her character evolved was impressive. also, watching the show has made me paranoid about all the surveillance around us)))))) am now uber-conscious of the CCTV cameras that are literally everywhere. who knows, maybe AI on the scale of the Machine is not such a distant future as we might like to think. I can say that I like POI not only for its (clearly high) entertainment value, but also for the issues it raises - the morality of doing smth nefarious for the greater good (eg Samaritan's 'Correction, but also all the CIA black ops, crimes commited by Vigilance), the whole orwellian big brother theme. all very topical questions, I think. Just recently, reading a story in New Yorker http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-new-c-i-a-deputy-chiefs-black-site-past?mbid=nl_170203_Daily&CNDID=48878211&spMailingID=10361224&spUserID=MTgxMjUyMTc4MDA2S0&spJobID=1100261535&spReportId=MTEwMDI2MTUzNQS2 immediately made me think of Control. So, I believe, POI will continue to be rewatched and will remain popular, unlike so many other shows. at least I'd like to hope so)))))).

I was browsing high-ranked shows and stumbled upon POI. Was hooked from the pilot - the plot, the cast, the soundtrack - everything was perfect. Just finished binge-watching all 5 seasons. such a pity that the show ended.