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I have thought about the episodes. Here are my predictions (in no particular order) based on what they've done with the previous decades mini-series.
1. Television (because they've always done television)
2. Music (because they've always done music)
3. Geo-Politics in the Post-Cold War world (it's kind of a catch-all for foriegn policy)
4. The Clintons (Bill Clinton was president for most of the decade)
5. Computers/The Internet (they did an episode on this during 1980s, but I feel like enough changed between 1990-2000 to merit revisiting the topic)
6. Celebrity Culture and the Media (This is where you cover O.J Simpson and the death of Princess Diana)
7. The Economy
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There is a series based on the young Sheldon that's in development, but what other spin-offs would you like to see? I came up with two in another thread that I'm combining here.
There would be two geeky girls in what was Leonard and Sheldon's apartment (now Penny and Leonard's). One of them would be more into science/sci-fi and the other would be more into fantasy. This is easy to show through t-shirts/props (one of them is wearing/carrying something "Star Trek" or "Firefly" related and the other is wearing/carrying something "Harry Potter" or "Lord of the Rings" ) They would see a totally hunky guy move into the apartment that was Penny's (and is currently Sheldon and Amy's).
Stuart will somehow become an important person in a small comic book publisher/company. One of the geeky girls works for Stuart. Stuart is in a long distance relationship, so he is not looking for romance. We see his girlfriend every now and then so we know she's real. The series is a combination hang-out show (what's happening at the apartment) and workplace comedy (what happens with the comic book publisher). The Dick Van Dyke Show, Fraiser and others have managed to blend the two genres, so it can be done. There is an episode set at comic-con where The Big Bang Theory characters appear.
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On February 1, 2017 at 2:14 AM, bybrandy said:
I love Tim Turner but at some point he's got to do something that isn't wildly supportive and helpful... just so I convince myself he's a real kid.
I'd love for him to get into small, minor kid trouble. Something simple and harmless like skipping school to see a movie. Of course, the town is small to begin with, and being the son of a prominent man, Tim has zero chance of getting away with anything, but I'd like to see him try.
On February 14, 2017 at 8:34 AM, bybrandy said:I don't need him to be bratty. I'd just like him to be less than perfect for one shining moment.
Agreed. I would love to see his friends talk him into doing something stupid, and he knows its stupid, but he goes along with it anyway because just for one moment he wanted to do something fun and not have to uphold this image of being the doctor's perfect son.
3 hours ago, Kohola3 said:Yikes, I love Phyllis more each week!
She's wonderful. My question is where/how did she develop gaydar? She knows what she saw, but it's a bit of a leap from friendship (which is what most would have thought) to figuring out they were lovers.
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1 hour ago, methodwriter85 said:
I wanted to show to at least include Chernobyl, because it really did seem like the final nail in the coffin of the glories of the Communist system, but this show doesn't seem like it's going to go beyond early 1985.
Page should be graduating either in 1985 or 1986 (depending on when she started school) so I'm sure she'll get yet more focus during the last season.
I hope they cover Chernobyl because I want to see Oleg's reaction to it. He's the one who saw this or something like it coming.
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4 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:
That is, he had a loving family and he's somewhat recreated it. It's his own personal experience of the country instead of the official version he's supposed to fight for.
I totally agree with this. Family is the key. All of his flashbacks this season involve family and thier home. Philip is motivated by loyalty and love for his family and his country, which is completely different from Elizabeth's motivation. He's not motivated by ideology the way Elizabeth is. Elizabeth would die for the cause, Philip would die to protect those he cared about.
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1 minute ago, Umbelina said:
Oh man, I would hate that. I want to know what happens, not wonder if Philip actually gets immunity, and certainly I wouldn't want to miss that entire conversation with Stan and Philip to hear ending music! I'd be pissed!
It would be two part finale. That would be the end of part one. We would find out happens in part two. The big question-will that conversation or some version of it play out. Will Philip confess of his own free will? Will Stan ever figure it out? We still have another season so I'm guessing a big part of the final season will be Stan trying to put it together.
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2 hours ago, sistermagpie said:
I was thinking more about the whole idea of Philip's memories and...I don't know if I'll be able to express those thoughts, but here goes.
From the start of the show we have the context of Elizabeth's upbringing and important flashbacks that explain why she thinks it's so important to be 100% loyal to the Cause, even if she seems to be covering up a desire to be loved for herself. The question with her always seems to be whether she'll embrace that aspect of herself before it's too late, or continue to choose the Cause over her loved ones. We, the audience, often seem to be able to see the things she's denying even when she can't.
With Philip, he keeps choosing Elizabeth despite not liking what he's doing. Since season 2 there's been this escalating disintegration as the work gets "harder" for him. There's a lot of question of when he'll "break" and what that would look like.
But here's what I was thinking...if you really look back at his arc it may turn out that it's less about breaking than it is about recovery of himself. Like yes, at the start of the series he seemed happier, but a lot of that might have been because he's so good at "making it real." He was playing a role, he just didn't see any need for a real self besides that.
"Who are you" is a recurring refrain with Philip. Viola says "I know who you are, you're the devil." Baklanov called him a monster, said he wasn't a man, said "whoever you once were" they trained it out of him. Yousef and others said "Who are you?" to Philip when he appeared in some spy mode, and his answer was usually vague. Martha said it to him too. The Israeli agent spent a whole night trying to talk about the person Philip "really" was and ultimately questioned if he could really know--"Are your children your children? Is your face your face?" etc. Both Philip and Elizabeth often look into mirrors, but I feel like Philip does it even more than she does, and for more mysterious reasons. Philip, despite being the "nice one" doesn't seem to have strong relationships the way Elizabeth did.
For her it's very specific and personal--her mother, her city, the history of invasion, her father. Philip seems to have strong emotions down there somewhere, but he doesn't seem connected to them. Very often when asked why he's thinking about something in his past his first answer will be "I don't know" or "I don't remember."
Elizabeth is someone with a past who is also connected with her past and draws strength from it. Philip has a past but is only now starting to connect with it. Whether this turns out to a be a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be seen. Philip draws strength from his current situation mainly Elizabeth and his responsibility to his kids.
38 minutes ago, Umbelina said:The more I see this playing out, I think Elizabeth would rather die than betray her country. Early on she wanted the kids with Philip, and insisted on taking what she thought was the more dangerous assignment to ensure Philip would be the one to survive.
I don't know how this will play out, but I don't think Elizabeth survives it. Still, that would be very problematic for Philip and the kids anyway, it wouldn't take long to identify her and lead back to Philip and the kids...and I don't think Philip wants to drag them back to Russia.
Once she's dead? It would probably be too late to defect, unless her body disappeared, or was burned up, destroyed, so he wouldn't be identified. Even then though? Stan lives across the street. Jane Doe shows up right when Elizabeth is suddenly not around? Stan will put it together.
The mental image that came to mind: Philip is the first to find out that Elizabeth is dead. Maybe he was with her when it happened and he manages to escape without being seen, maybe he founds out a different way. Philip, holding a six pack, knocks on Stan's door and asks if Matthew's around. Stan says that Matthew is spending the night at a friend's, and asks if everything is okay with Paige. Philip says they need to talk but only if Stan promises full immunity/witness relocation and that nothing bad will happen to Henry and Paige. Stan is confused. He makes phone calls in another room. Philip can't hear him but we can. Stan thinks that Philip has stumbled across something as a travel agent, someone trying to flee country or a smuggling/human trafficking ring. Stan makes a strong case that Philip's a good guy and not the type to cry wolf. If he's this shaken/rattled, it must be something big. The agency agrees (because it's TV Land and that's how things work). Philip proceeds to tell Stan everything as music begins to play. We see thier faces, we don't hear what's being said.
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On April 7, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Artsda said:
I love episodes when Sheldon's Texan side comes out.
Me too.
On April 7, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Badsamaritan said:I really like Howard admitting to Bernie that it was hard for him to go back to work after paternity leave as well. That was a nice touch, and something you don't see often from fathers on comedy shows. And he was very mature when they finally talked, telling her they would figure out what is the best situation for their family.
I wish Raj and Stuart would just move into another apartment in the building. Maybe directly upstairs from Sheldon & Amy. And then they could do running jokes about different things each of them hears in the others' apartment, like maybe Amy practicing her harp using heavy metal music or something when Sheldon's not home.
I liked that too. He made it clear that very few choices that they made were permanent. Things could be adjusted. I also thought it was a good sign that he wanted them to figure things out together. He wants each of them to have a chance to be heard and say what they want/need.
I love your idea about Raj and Stuart moving in together. I suggested something very similiar in another post. They could do the episde where Raj and Stuart overhear part of a conversation, jump to conclusions, and then spend the rest of the episode trying to figure out what's going on upstairs.
On April 7, 2017 at 8:28 AM, ChitChat said:It seems to me that they're running out of storylines.
Agreed. They have maybe one or two seasons left before they should end it.
On April 7, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Chaos Theory said:The show missed a great opportunity with the gang chasing a loopy Sheldon through Los Angelus and an even a better one of Sheldon chasing himself and his notes after.
Yes! I love drunk/loopy Sheldon. If they just cut the part about two projects and made the entire episode thier version of The Hangover the episode would have been a million times better.
On April 7, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Cowgirl said:Like others above, I too loved Sheldon in the cowboy bar and love it when he gets his Texan on. I just wish they had figured out why he went to that bar in the first place. It could have been for a really funny reason! Seems like a missed opportunity.
Also, I think Sheldon getting in touch with his Texas roots/side tends to happen when he's drunk or loopy. An explanation of why he went to the bar would have been interesting.
On April 7, 2017 at 11:09 AM, iMonrey said:I can buy that Sheldon knows a lot of "Texas stuff" but I'm not sure I buy him knowing how to line dance.
He mentioned gym class in an earlier episode, and line dancing is part of gym class in many places, so maybe that's where he learned how to line dance.
On April 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM, CherryAmes said:I can buy him being forced to learn line dancing. He was taken to cotillions and he also knows all about football and how to shoot. He may not have actually liked doing any of those things but I can see him being expected to do them.
That's another theory that works too.
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19 hours ago, SWLinPHX said:
I wonder if Elizabeth will immediately stop seeing Ben and how that will go because she will need a good explanation -- and now she realizes that she really likes his personality AND his agenda.
She has two options. She can tell Ben the project she was working on is over/the company is tranfering her to a different department or division and this was fun, but let's end it while it's still fun and then we can have these great memories. The other option is for Elizabeth to tell the Centre she thinks they can turn him and use him as a source, which means she does not have to end the relationship.
15 hours ago, Solnichka said:I thought it was curious, too, that the scene with Tuan & P was outside playing catch instead of, say, watching from a bedroom window.
Playing catch looks like an everday suburban activity. No one is going to look twice or give it a second thought. If someone saw them watching from a bedroom window, that might seem strange.
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I love The Brady Bunch and I didn't recognize Eve Plumb in the episode at all. I had no idea who it was until I came here. I must've looked down right after the opening credits when they list the guest cast.
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I wish they had done more with Sheldon having a night/day he can't remember. That seemed far better and funnier than Sheldon trying to work on two projects at once. I would have loved if they could have spent more time on Sheldon at the cowboy bar.
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I know it was pure silly cheese, but I really liked the intercut of Jerry Lee and Johnny Cash as door to door salesman.
I'm not someone who's familiar with many gospel songs, so I was trying to figure out why "Just A Closer Walk With Thee" seemed so familiar. All of a sudden I could sort of hear a version of the song that was slightly different in tone, and a mental image started to form and it all become clearer and clearer-it was in Cool Hand Luke.
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8 hours ago, Ellaria Sand said:
I agree that the promos can be deceptive and we have to be cautious about reading too much into them.
As a fan of Mad Men, amen to that. I learned from that show not to trust the previews, because they are misleading and often cryptic.
1 hour ago, Erin9 said:I'm probably way off, but maybe he witnessed his father's death. Philip has mentioned his dad's death a few times, but he's never said how he died. Is it possible he doesn't remember? His memories seem to be tied to his father bringing things home. So, it's something related to his father, and it appears to be around the time his dad died. It's like his memories are around the lead up to it. I'm probably wrong.
I think this makes sense. The memories are clearly leading up to something and seeing his father die a violent, painful, horrible death would fit.
57 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:I also go back to the fact that his father's death was the first true thing about himself he mentioned in an emotional way, back when Paige was complaining about not having a family. That was back at the start of S2. It seems in character for Philip to take a few tries to get something out. The fact that he's said "my father died" so many times makes it seem like there maybe is something there he's not saying or not remembering. I wouldn't be surprised if he witnessed it. Maybe his father stole that stuff and was killed for it. Dad putting family above the collective? So there's be the trauma of the death and also the connection to deprivation making him think about it now.
That would explain a great deal about Philip. I like the idea the Philip saw his father sacrifice himself trying to protect his family and do what was best for them. The lesson Philip took from that without realizing it was you take care of your family and put them first, or maybe his mother instilled in him the idea/belief that it was his responsiblity to take care of the family. It would explain many of his actions. He gets agressive when he thinks someone is a threat to is family.
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1 hour ago, sistermagpie said:
Thanks for that PTSD/Shell shock distinction. For years I thought they were the same thing so I like being reminded of the difference.
It's a super common mistake. I thought it was different names for the same thing too; Shell Shock being an outdated term and PTSD being an actual diagnosis accepted by the medical/psychiatric community. The only reason I know the difference is that I wrote a paper on PTSD and Vietnam Veterans for a psychology class and a paper on Shell Shock for a class on WWI.
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19 minutes ago, RedHawk said:
I would definitely give Oleg a happy ending. Ok, sorry. But yes, you are NOT alone. I'll bet Costa Ronin is getting as much fan mail as Matthew Rhys!
I didn't think that the young women at the Dating Game Dinner were being treated as playthings. They were attractive young ladies who came from "good" (connected higher-up) families and this was 1984 in Moscow. Setting up daughters was likely not so outdated back then. Plus, they all looked somewhat aware that their sell by date was nearing. Hey, if I had been shown a photo of eligible Oleg and told he was "lonely" and needed cheering up, I'd have put on my best dress and makeup and taken a seat at that table!I was trying to avoid the innuendo of "happy ending" and mentally said the hell with it and typed it anyway. I'll bet Costa Ronin is getting more fan mail then Matthew Rhys. It could be a situation where different types appeal to different people.
17 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:The fact that he describes himself as remembering times when his father brought things home like clothing and food is partly what made me think of that old-fashioned adjusted memories thing. Like in the last ep of MASH where Hawkeye keeps remembering a certain incident with a chicken...
But it seems like Claudia is an Elizabeth who didn't take a chance with her Philip.
The finale of M*A*S*H is part of what made me think PTSD in the first place, although the possibility of adjusted memories didn't even cross my mind until you mentioned it. Hawkeye didn't have the intrusive memories, but the story being told in fragments reminded me of the M*A*S*H finale. (Also to get technical, Hawkeye had something more like shell shock. The symptoms were too immediate for him to have PTSD, and he was still in the war zone). The fact that the bus was the central focus and it was clear horrible something happened there makes me think the tiny room plays a similiar role in Philip's story. In the M*A*S*H finale Hakweye had Sidney helping him, forcing him to remember the truth. Philip doesn't have someone filling that role.
I think your comment about Claudia is fascinating. I wonder what it means for the future.
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10 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:
And we finally get a trip to Lansky Bros.
Yes! This makes me so happy! I was really hoping we'd get to see something like this. I love the clothes.
I have an inflation calculator on my smartphone, so if anyone was curious here are the priced adjusted for inflation.
$10 jacket in 1955 dollars, which is $91 in 2017 dollars
$6.50 pants in 1955 dollars, which is $60 in 2017 dollars
$12.00 shoes in 1955 dollars, which is $109 in 2017 dollars
Rounding up to account for sales tax, the total comes to $29.00 in 1955 dollars, which is $260 in 2017 dollars.
Now all we need is a recreation of some of the Wertheimer photographs and my wish list will be complete.
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On April 5, 2017 at 3:43 PM, tennisgurl said:
Wow, Philip would rather have flashbacks to his depressing childhood in Siberia then sleep with that scientist chick! Alright, that's not really what happened, I don't think. I think he was having a flashback without wanting to, and all this is leading to understanding something about Philips past, which has always been more mysterious then Elizabeth's. Its probably going to tie in with Philips issues now, and his increasing guilt over what he does, especially now that he killed an innocent guy over bad information.
Speaking of people I want to get a happy ending, does this mean Oleg is out of the CIAs cross hairs? It looks like it now, but I'm not sure. I feel like he isn't out of the woods yet, but I kind of hope he is. As beautiful as he looks when he looks miserable, he also looks beautiful when he's happy, on those rare occasions. Can you tell I'm kind of in love with the guy at this point?
The fact that he was having flashbacks/instrusive memories he couldn't control made me think this was something different. As you noted, it wasn't something he wanted to think about, it just started happening.
I want Oleg to have happy ending too. Oleg looks wonderful and sexy no matter what. I thought it was weird I had this crush on him, and then I found out I was not alone.
22 hours ago, Inquisitionist said:I see your point about the difference in memory styles, controlled versus intrusive. I'm just wondering what event could be more horrible than having killed a person. I guess there are such things, such as watching a loved one be tortured. Ugh, I'm not sure I could deal with that kind of flashback.
My guess it's something he didn't have control over. It's something that was done to him or someone he loved, but I'm not really sure how that would tie into what we've seen so far. Everything has been in that room, so it has to be something he saw in that room.
7 hours ago, Silly Angel said:As for Tuan, if he was assigned to P&E to deal with the agriculture situation, and there turned out not to be a situation, I don't see why he'd be reassigned and the Eckerts quietly have to "move" to Atlanta or some likely-sounding airport hub. Although with Ekaterina getting a new job, they might want to stay on the family for a while. Especially since I doubt the show would have toggled back and forth between the USSR and the US, grain- and food-wise, for half a damn season without resolution.
I agree with you and think the mission will change focus. They Centre will chalk up the grain mistake to bad intel, but they now have a prime source of information in Ekaterina and the Centre will be thrilled to take advantage of that. When the job is over, the cover story will be that the Eckerts are moving to another airport hub city due to a transfer.
5 hours ago, misstwpherecool said:Was it Ferris Bueller or the War Games kid that changed his grades in the computer system-in the 1980s
As others have said, both characters were played by Matthew Broderick. In Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986) Ferris Bueller hacks into the school's computer to change his attendence record. In WarGames (1983) David Lightman hacks into the school computer to change grades.
3 hours ago, Ina123 said:I think Claudia could kill him without batting an eye, but I think he's safe with Gabriel for the time being.
Which is exactly how Elizabeth and Philip would react to a similiar situation. How is it possible this is the first season I'm realizing that Claudia and Gabriel are mirrors of Elizabeth and Philip.
3 hours ago, TexasGal said:Didn't Ferris change his attendance record, not his grades? <nerd out over>
That does not count as a nerd out. For it to qualify as a nerd out, you would have to say the name of the software or the type of the computer. I love John Hughes's teen movies.
2 hours ago, ahpny said:Henry's suddenly-discovered math/computer skills can go in many directions. While facility with higher math and programming is, and was in the 80's, quite sought after by intelligence agencies, those talents don't really help to do the hands-on type of spying that Philip and Elizabeth do. This is really about cryptography. Cryptographers, then and now, that work for intelligence agencies tend not to be the field officers, but people back in the home office. It is easy to imagine a long range plan to get Henry into the NSA and have him funnel selected information back the "Centre."
Spy agencies need all types to make it work. You need people in the field and people in the home office. The Centre doesn't expect the all of the second generation illegals to be in the field. What they want is a source of information, so if that source of information is someone in admin who has access to documents/files, that's great. If it's someone who's a field agent out and about on spy missions, that's needed too. I agree with your last sentence. Henry having a job in cryptography at the NSA or any intelligence would be great for the Centre. They would have an inside track to all of the codes the NSA is using, and also know which of thier codes the USA has figured out.
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5 hours ago, Inquisitionist said:
We've already seen that Philip killed a young classmate as a boy himself. Good lord, how much more traumatic does it get than that?
I don't know, but that seemed like a normal memory. It was a horrible event, but it was a memory he could control. He could tell it as a story. What we're seeing with the small house where the scene with the pants and the bread took place doesn't seem like it's something he's controling. It seems intrusive, and he's getting fragments. What we've been seeing feels different.
5 hours ago, shura said:I don't get why the FBI had to bring Alexei to that greenhouse in the middle of nowhere. What was so Soviet in there that required a Soviet agriculture expert?
I'm guessing they needed someone who knew about soil and information that someone who worked in Soviet agriculture would know (what kinds of pesticide are they using) but difficult for someone to find out. Do really want to send a spy in Russia to find out about soil, or do you pick the brain of a defector?
2 hours ago, jjj said:Yes, floppy discs were the storage medium of choice in the mid 1980s!
I also was admiring the vintage McDonald packaging-- made me wonder if they found that and built the scene around it.
I know on Mad Men if the script called for something the production design/props team either found it or made it. It was based on the needs of the script. It's possible someone found it and put it aside thinking they would use it someday, but I doubt they built a scene around props.
2 hours ago, Ellaria Sand said:I think that Tuan will be a problem, regardless. Once the operation with Pasha and his family comes to an end, the existence of Tuan and Ma and Pa Eckert is unnecessary. The "family" can move, claiming to be transferred to another city.
That would make sense to me. People moving during the school year is unusual, but it's not unheard of.
43 minutes ago, picklesprite said:There's a parallel between Phillip's worry about Stan and Stan's worry about Oleg. Neither of them wants to have been the vehicle for hurting a man they like.
I think this is true. There is deep respect and on some level affection.
36 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:And if all else fails, let The Center find her an APPROVED psychiatrist. Teen depression shouldn't be ignored.
I love this idea. Getting to see part of a session has the potential to be amazing.
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5 minutes ago, Erin9 said:
it was him flashing back to a past he's never wanted to talk about and isn't trying to remember during sex of all times. I was shocked by that. And I think I was supposed to be. Philip was too. That's probably why he actually told Elizabeth something, even if he couldn't articulate what his memories mean. PTSD might be a good word for what is happening to him.
I thought of PTSD because the flashbacks seemed intrusive and uncontrolled/uncontrolable. PTSD is usually the result of something traumatic, often resulting from a life or death situation. My working theory right now is that each of these little flashbacks is a piece to a larger puzzle. This is building to something big, I just have no idea what that is.
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For fun, I'm reading The Cold War: A History by Martin Walker. Recently, I read a section about Soviet children born during the late 1940s-1950s who did not experience WWII firsthand and grew to adulthood in relative peace. Is Oleg slightly younger than Philip and Elizabeth? While Oleg may have been alive during the end of Stalin's purges, it doesn't seem that he remembers them. While it's easy to attribute some of the differences between Oleg and Philip and Elizabeth to social class, I wonder if generation/cohort also plays a role as well.
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4 minutes ago, Erin9 said:
I'm starting to wonder if Philip fully remembers his past. He seemed confused about why he's having these memories. Notably- no 2nd kid in this flashback. Interesting.
Are they memories, or some sort of lowgrade PTSD type flashbacks. They seem to be intrusive, and not something he is trying to remember, but something that just suddenly remembers out of nowhere.
2 minutes ago, Auntie Anxiety said:Maybe Henry is a math/computer genius who will be a much better asset for the KGB than Paige could ever be.
That would be a fantastic storyline. Philip and Elizabeth trying to figure out the right way to tell Henry, (how do we tell him, what do we tell him, when is the right time to tell him) because they know they messed up with Paige, and this is thier second chance to do it successfully.
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1 hour ago, AimingforYoko said:
It's The Dating Game! (Moscow Edition) with your host Ivan Burov!
That's exactly what I said. I also thought it was interesting that Oleg clearly wants an intellectual equal based on the fact that he called them silly.
20 minutes ago, zibnchy said:This is apropos of nothing but the actor hired to portray Oleg's father does not resemble him in the least bit. Hmmm, maybe he's not Oleg's papa. Not that that would be a storyline. Anyway, I love Oleg and I want him to survive and be happy.
Genetics are strange. My mother refers to it as genetic roulette. Parents don't always look like thier kids. I love Oleg too and not only do I want him to survive and be happy, I want him to team up with Stan again. They worked well together.
Claudia is an older version of Elizabeth (ideologically driven), and Gabriel is an older version of Philip (concerned about people).
Philip's memories have to been leading to something. There has to be some sort of payoff to these odd fragments that keep popping up at odd moments.
Question: I don't understand the threat Olg's supervisor made to the store manager. Was the idea that if the man co-operated, his son would return from Afghanistan/be reassigned to another post or was it that he had a realitivy easy position in Afghanistan (Saigon soldier working in an office in Vietnam) and they would have him transferred to the front/a more difficult position.
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On January 23, 2017 at 9:57 AM, flickers said:
Is the Shelagh actress pregnant in real life? Happy for the Turners, but if only infertile couples could be surprised in real life as often as it happens on TV! (and always after adopting...)
My understanding is that stress and pressure can make it harder for some woman to conceive. Once they are told a pregnancy is unlikely, and decide to adopt, the pressure is off. I don't have a medical/science background, so if this 100% wrong, I won't be insulted if someone with a better understanding corrects me.
21 hours ago, Calvada said:I kept thinking of how Sister Evangelina would have grabbed that appalling Lester by the ear and told him to shape up or else.
And those poor people with that measly lunch. I can't imagine working where they controlled what I ate and how much I ate. It seems this will be the season long arc - will Ursula's heart grow three sizes by the last episode? I found myself humming, "She's a mean one, Sister Grinch!"
Remember, Lester was "connected," which would have complicated things. I would have loved to see how fearless Sister Evangelina would be. What sort of favors/donations to the church would she turn down for a mother in need. As for the food, I thought they had larger meal at noon, and a smaller meal at dinner. Sister Ursula was changing it so that that still had the same amount of food, just a different order.
6 hours ago, abbyzenn said:I thought Trudy's story was also a good reminder of the state of women at the time - her husband had the upper hand in a divorce and why would a man that just got out of prison, even if it wasn't for child abuse, be more eligible for custody than a wife who had a "problem" years ago.
They didn't go into, but I'm assuming that because he was involved in organized crime, that changed things a little. He had connections and pulls.
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22 hours ago, mojoween said:
It occurred to me that I don't care about anyone but Elvis and to a lesser extent Johnny. No other storyline holds my interest. Like let's just get on with Colonel Parker meeting Elvis, I don't need all the other backstory.
Anyone who pines for the "good ol' days" should listen to Elvis prepping for an interview by being told to mention his high school so people would know he is white. Christ.
@mojoween- What you're calling backstory is this story/miniseries. We're not going to see Elvis buy Graceland, or Cash record his famous album At Folsom Prison. At around episode 4 or 5 I started to suspect that the end point was going to December 1956, and now I'm close to certain. The writers could still surprise me.
I totally agree with you about your second point. I think many of the people who pine for "good ol' days" might also be in favor of segregated schooling. It's awful, but true.
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CNN does fantastic documentaries. The problem is there are still a news channel, so when big breaking news happens, they have to cover it. If they were smarter, they would have scheduled it for a night when major news is less likely to happen. I loved the episodes I got to see, and I can't wait to see the rest during the summer.