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10 hours ago, SlovakPrincess said:
Keeping her isolated and estranged from her dad was essential to the plan.
I didn't get that at all. I thought she was already having problems with her father. I wouldn't say Kimmee is isolated. Jim doesn't mind that Kimmee has friends and a social life. Jim was never a controlling borderline abusive type. Isn't Jim supposed to be someone in the entertainment industry (or at least the edges of it) who's in DC for work a few times a month?
10 hours ago, sistermagpie said:Kimmy is perfectly free to date boys her own age. I think she already has. I think they had a scene where Jim was talking about some boy she was going out with or thinking of going out with. She's not denying other boys to save herself for him. If she wasn't interested in the platonic relationship they have then he would have had to have gone there, but she likes him being a dad/older brother type too.
This sums up the relationship perfectly.
9 hours ago, scrb said:And he can walk into the CIA offices without it being checked?
My guess (and this is more fan theory than anything else) is that it's a super high-tech bug that the Soviets have but cannot yet be detected by the CIA's technology.
5 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:Also, I thought the way Alexi hung back from the hospital was odd. People who are used to going to a hospital know to go gather a bag, like when you have taken seniors to the ER multiple times over the years. You have experience and know to go prepared, but, in their situation, which was rather life or death.......staying back and packing a bag seemed rather odd, imo.
Only one parent could go in the ambulance. My guess is that Alexi wasn't ready to go and face his family, so packing a bag was a delaying tactic. It was something he could do that would appear useful and helpful, but also buy him time.
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14 hours ago, TheBride said:
Was Henry working on a computer at his desk? That's an anomaly if it was.
Why? It's 1984. A home computer in 1984 would have been expensive and a luxury, but not unheard of or out of the question. WarGames came out the year before.
13 hours ago, Erin9 said:Awww- looks like Martha gets a kid after all. That's nice that she caught a break.
The KGB figured out how to give her the one thing she wanted most. Maybe they'll get her a job at an orphanage or doing something with kids.
13 hours ago, mattie0808 said:No Oleg. NO OLEG?!?!!?!?!?!?!?
I know. You had close to 90 minutes and you couldn't have one scene with him?
13 hours ago, skippylou said:I am now willing to bet that Stan's GF is really Directorate S based on her gentle but obvious push for Stan to remain in counterintelligence. Paige has all but stated she wants to be a 2nd generation illegal.
Agreed. As soon as she wanted Stan to stay in his job, I realized for absolute certain she is a spy.
13 hours ago, sistermagpie said:I hope that’s the last we see of Martha. Gabriel (Semyon’s) a regular Father Frost these days, but I don’t need to see every step of Martha’s life in Russia. Seems like she’s got the positive note we needed to end on. She's got something and someone to live for.
I wouldn't mind checking in with Martha once or twice a season, but I would also be happy if this was the last we see of her.
12 hours ago, tennisgurl said:The worst part? No Oleg all episode! I know that his story didn't really tie into the main plot, but it was by FAR the story I was most invested in, and we get nothing? Really? We have to wait until the next freaking season to see if he ends up getting thrown into the nearest gulag, or just goes about his life? An episode without Oleg is an episode without sunshine!
And did I mentioned yet how pissed off I am that we got no resolution with Oleg? How am I supposed to last until the next season without a last shot of him looking amazing yet pensive?
Yes! Oleg is one of the best parts of the series. How could they forget about him like that?
10 hours ago, solea said:Am I the only one that thinks the KGB wants Martha to teach the little girl good, authentic English and culture so that she can be a spy?
In fact, I've been wondering whether they intend to use Martha as a instructor of American cultural mores, etc? I highly doubt her life in the USSR is going to be one with no strings attached.
I hadn't thought of that, but it's the perfect job for her.
9 hours ago, Bannon said:Next to this season's midge-a-palooza, I've thought the kimmie arc to be among the show's weakest, so I am disappointed to see it is going to be central to the final season. Here we have a KGB illegal in the house of CIA officer, who will soon head the Soviet Division. The KGB illegal is surrounded by teenagers, who know him as the old dude who hangs out with Kimmie, supplies pot, and gives the girls backrubs. Because American teenagers are so well known for keeping secrets like that in a group, the KGB illegal can be confident that none of the adults in the teenager's lives will find out about the old dude, and call the police.
One of the kids would have to be caught with the pot, and it doesn't seem like he's selling. He brings it, they smoke it, he leaves with the drugs. Why wouldn't they keep the secret? Why on earth would they risk access to high quality pot?
9 hours ago, MissBluxom said:Can you imagine when the child is about to enter her teenage years and it's time for Martha to give her some "life lessons"? What good advice would Martha give her about how she can live a happy and fulfilling life? I would pay good money to see that scene.
Don't buy into the idea that you need a husband and family to be happy and satisfied.
9 hours ago, scrb said:Why wouldn't Kimmee's dad not object to her spending so much time with whatever Philip's cover is suppose to be? He's at least 20 years older than his teen daughter.
It's one thing if they were hanging out together on the down low but Philip is over at their home for hours. Surely he would have put a stop to that?
Kimmee's dad doesn't know about him. He's over there when her father is away.
8 hours ago, Bannon said:And all it would take is one of the teenage boys having a crush on Kimmie, or the girl getting a backrub from Old Dude Pot Supplier who Hangs with Kimmie, or one of the girls being envious of Kimmie for having Old Dude Pot Supplier who gives Backrubs (and maybe more!), for a dime to be dropped on Old Dude Pot Supplier. The whole thing is preposterous.
Except then the kid would be labeled a narc and school would become awful.
7 hours ago, MissBluxom said:But, I'd like to say that I had the same thought after watching this episode. The KGB may have decided that Martha represented a good opportunity for them. If adopting the child goes well and Martha is agreeable to the idea of training her to become a spy, maybe she may be willing to adopt other children and train them too. Especially if the KGB can arrange for a young handsome man to front for Martha as a husband (although they will really just be partners in KGB stuff). Martha would really go for a handsome young man like Oleg. We might even get a spinoff.
I like the idea of Martha raising spies or training spies as a spin-off. Watching her try to explain the American way of life and American culture to Soviets would be fantastic. Oleg cannot be in this spin-off, because I need him for my spin-off where he and Stan team up to fight crime, with Henry helping out with the computer/technological side.
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10 hours ago, Ina123 said:
You don't think people were frightened at that time? You don't think there was a threat?
My mother has told me multiple times about how she went to school and wasn't sure if she'd be alive and going home at the end of the end.
4 hours ago, Clanstarling said:Regardless of which nation was in the right or the wrong, the threat was very real. When things get escalated to that point, it's a crap shoot as to whether or not one will back down, and if either superpower pulled the trigger, the other would retaliate. One hopes cooler minds prevail, but you can't logically trust that they will. History is mixed on that subject because you can't always trust humans to make the sane decision.
So yes, in my opinion, having lived through it, the threat was real and people on both sides (and the rest of the world) were justifiably, and logically afraid.
This is totally correct. Years later my father met someone from Russia. They compared notes about duck and cover. I was surprised the Russians were doing duck and cover too. I thought they would have had something else.
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2 hours ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:
Hubby's prediction is that Oleg defects. At least that would make me happy by keeping him alive. LOVE him.
Maybe, but I'm not sure. Oleg is is like Philip, in that he's motivated by family and the desire to help his people. He isn't into the ideology like Elizabeth. If Oleg defected, that would ruin his family, and I'm not sure he's willing to do that. On the other hand, I like the idea of Oleg defecting because it's set up my spin-off were Stan leaves the FBI. Stan and Oleg to fight crime together because after all the dark, gritty, doom and gloom, what we really need is a 1980s style action-adventure series.
1 hour ago, JFParnell said:Love to see that Sports Night isn't forgotten out there :)
I love Sports Night (and all of Sorkin's show, even Studio 60) What Sports Night reference did I miss?
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9 hours ago, cpcathy said:
I'm a comedy fiend, I was really looking forward to this and I'm frustrated they couldn't find one hour a week to show it.
What I heard is that they plan on airing it during the summer, along with Soundtracks: The Songs that Shaped History, as well as The Nineties. We'll see what happens. Congressional Recess has to make things a little easier.
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9 hours ago, Ina123 said:
I guess people could feel that way if they hadn't lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis.
I feel like this isn't generational, but more about cohorts (I'm really bad at math, so bear with me, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). You had a generation that grew up after the Cuban Missile Crisis or with no memory of it, during detente, when relations with the Soviet Union were slightly better.
7 hours ago, Umbelina said:So using the words "retired" to describe Philip and Elizabeth once they return is misleading. They would still have to work, famous heroes or not. They'd probably work with spy craft or language training or explaining to other spies what the USA is really like, stuff like that., possibly simply propaganda though.
That sounds about right to me. I'm reading a book about the Soviet Space Program, so I'm going to use it as an example. After cosmonauts were no longer flying missions, they were often involved in training, or public relations, like giving tours to important politicians, or appearing at events.
7 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:How does that work for Social Security purposes. The kids are entitled to payments if a parent dies, but, what happens when social security gets the second notice that Philip Jennings is dead? (Maybe, with the first death, no notice was sent.)
They didn't get a notice that the first Philip Jennings died. Prior to the 1980s, social security numbers were not issued until someone applied for one, usually when they started working. What I'm guessing happened is that Philip Jennings is using the name of an infant or very small child who died. The Centre used that information to generate a social security number for our Philip Jennings. The social security administration probably does not know about the first Philip Jennings.
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4 hours ago, absnow54 said:
the plot is timeless enough to fit into any era.
I don't see how. The movie is about a specific time and place (and there's nothing wrong with that). Dirty Dancing is like American Graffiti in that the story is very much tied to a specific geographic location, a subculture, and a point in a person's life.
1 hour ago, DearEvette said:So the question remains, why not just do a whole new movie? it might have been actually funny to have this one done from the POV of a completely different vacationing family who were having their own drama at the same time and we saw the Dirty Dancing stuff on the peripheral.
This is a brilliant idea, and would be perfect for a series. It would be an ensemble cast. The main characters would be guests and staff. It would be a little like Upstairs, Downstairs/Downton Abbey meets that mini season of Saved By the Bell where the Bayside teens work at a summer resort/beach club. Each season of this hypothetical series based on Dirty Dancing would cover one summer.
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12 hours ago, RedHawk said:
And why did Misha not tell his age? Does he think he seems more cool to his young cousin if he seems like a teenager rather than an "older" guy of 20-21?
Electroshock treatments can cause memory lapses, so it's possible there are periods of time he doesn't remember, thus isn't sure how old he is.
11 hours ago, MegK said:Is it possible the Centre is actually the force behind Henry's move to a boarding school, in the same way it got Pastor Tim that job offer? They know that Henry's a math whiz, they know about his close relationship with an FBI agent — they surely have to regard turning Henry as a top priority in the 2nd-gen plan. They also know that Paige's transition isn't going so well with P&E at the wheel. If Henry were in boarding school, all they'd have to do is plant a teacher and/or a student to slowly work on turning him, then bring P&E into the picture later.
This is brilliant. It would mean that Chris's father is like one of the Cambridge spies.
11 hours ago, MegK said:As for Henry, a second-gen spy who might be able to get a job in the FBI thanks to a friendship with an agent who's in the dark seems pretty much like the Centre's wet dream.
Agreed. The goal of recruiting the second generation was that they could get jobs in government that Russians would not.
11 hours ago, Gella said:As an aside we are getting somewhat close to April 1986 and I wonder what Phillip would make of that disaster.
I'm far more interested in Oleg's reaction, based on what he said about the Soviet's ability or lack thereof to handle biohazards.
10 hours ago, sistermagpie said:He could talk to a friend or friends about what was going on, there'd be a sense of how people around his age deal with the corruption. Most importantly, he could have a friend who was funny, tried to get Oleg to have some fun. It seems like a guy like Oleg would have friends like that, especially since he would have grown up among other elite guys. They'd want to take him out. They'd probably have fun with girls who weren't chosen by his father as a future bride.
I totally agree with this. I've wanted a scene of Oleg having fun in a Russian jazz club since the season started. Oleg and his friends would be dealing with the corruption from the other side. They would be the ones in a position to offer things, or would be approached by people who want things. I imagine it would be a lot of trading favors amongst the group.
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59 minutes ago, salvame said:
Admittedly, I wasn't paying close attention, but I felt the money was given to him sort of with tongue in cheek - as in all the men had placed bets and gave all the winnings to Tom, but I could be wrong. But Fred did say to spend it on Barbara
I love this fan theory! I could totally see Fred getting the other guys to agree to this after a few drinks.
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8 hours ago, proserpina65 said:
I was never wild about Patrick Swayze in general, but damn, did he have charisma coming out his ears in Dirty Dancing. This new guy is a veritable black hole of charisma, and while he does have a nice body, he ain't particularly attractive imo.
I didn't watch this remake, but I did want to comment. The thing with Patrick Swayze in Dirty Dancing is that the camera loves him. You are seeing him through a woman's eyes, which is rare for a film. You are seeing him from Baby's perspective, and the way she views him. In the original movie, there's a shot of Swayze lying down stretched out during "Love is Strange." Someone should have turned that shot into a poster. It would have sold well (who am I kidding, it will still sell pretty well).
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3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:
OR, next season, we find the Jennings attending Henry's high school graduation. Jump to where each person decides where they'll go.
I could see time a time jump in the series finale. We jump ahead 2 or 3 years to graduation, and then there's title cards telling us what ultimately happened to everyone.
2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:So, do the Russian spies have a no kill policy for children? We haven't seen it used, but, was this why P & E put the skids on Tuan's plan? (Excluding the rogue Russian teen who they had to kill in self defense.) Or, did they just consider the risks that it was unfeasible? Were P & E doing their job OR were they reacting emotionally to protect a child?
Death is supposed to be a last resort. Philip and Elizabeth thought they could get where they needed to be with Pasha and his family some other way.
42 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:Henry's storyline about wanting to go away to boarding school progressed really quickly- I can't help but think the writers are using it as a back door exit strategy for Henry if the Jenning's do end up going "home".
Phillip and Elizabeth aren't very creative for espionage agents- any parent that found out their kid's friend may be suicidal would act immediately- that should have been their story with Tuan. In fact, there needn't even have been a suicide attempt, but simply a scenario where the kid talked to Tuan about it.
I'm guessing that's going to happen next week. If there's police or EMTs, and anyone asks why The Eckharts are there, they'll say our soon told us his friend was suicidal, and we had to go check on him. If Tuan can stick to the story, it will look like they got there just in time.
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45 minutes ago, Erin9 said:
There are a million different ways that plan could go wrong. I don't think it's that dangerous for them to go to the home. They're supposed to be close friends. But it did heighten the tension and remind us what's at stake when we saw the agent in the car. I loved P and E holding hands as they walked over. They are united.
I'm so excited that we got to see Philip's brother and that Misha will have some other family. It's something. But-how sad-they're not even supposed to ask about Uncle Misha. His brother seemed both proud of how smart he was- and sad too.
Holding hands was them being united. Whatever happens, we'll get through this together. I don't think it was for the agent who was watching.
13 minutes ago, Erin9 said:That said- the centre may actually be getting that their 2nd generation spy plan is pretty flawed. That kid in S2 and all the struggles with Paige may have driven that home. It should have. It's notable that NO ONE has brought up Henry spying. He's the right age now to start pushing it. But they haven't.
The kid in season 2 and Paige are just the ones we know about. There may be a few other kids like Paige out there who haven't heard about. Either they've decided the second generation program is a bad idea, or they have no idea how good a spy Henry would be.
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2 minutes ago, Knuckles said:
I suspect Tuan has no clue that Pasha has been pushed to the point of embracing that relief. He explained things to P&E as if it were a chess move...with no sense of the emotional consequences, or the possible reactions of the Morozovs. Whatever the horrors of his story in Vietnam, and his cleverness, Tuan is useless...he can't gauge human reactions.
He doesn't have this skill set now, but assuming he survives, I think Tuan could learn. We see Philip and Elizabeth as almost super spies, but I'm sure they made mistakes (although probably not that big) and had close calls early on, because no one is perfect and everybody makes mistakes.
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3 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:
Of course Tuan hasn't thought his plan through, but they really weren't ruining anything by going over there. They could just say that Tuan talked to Pasha that day in school and was worried he was going to do something and the parents thought they should make sure nothing was wrong.
I had the same thought. I didn't think the agent's car would be that big a deal. It seemed like their cover story would hold. Thank you for explaining Mischa's story.
Speaking of parallels, we have Paige asking about where the name Jennings came from, and Oleg asking his mother more about her past.
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On May 22, 2017 at 6:57 PM, sistermagpie said:
Yes he does. Elizabeth is suggesting going back for him, not for herself. Philip wants to retire. He started bringing it up last season. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Claudia saw this as Elizabeth being influenced by Philip and acting accordingly in some way.
I think Philip is torn between wanting out of the spy game, and at the same time wanting to stay in America.
15 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said:Tuan, stay in your lane, dude. This could end really badly.
Tuan is still young. Even if he's in his early 20s, he still doesn't understand how horribly wrong things can go, and can't imagine the impact the loss of a child will have on the parents. In addition, he can't predict how they will grieve.
There were so many scenes of Oleg tonight where he reminded me of a little boy. Oleg wants to do the right thing, but he isn't sure what that is anymore. He knows he's going down, but he doesn't know when, where or how, but he knows he doesn't want his father involved when it all goes to hell.
Mischa was so cute with his cousin. There is something I don't understand, so I'm hoping someone can explain it to me. If Mischa was in prison or a mental institution, how did he get out? Was he issued some sort of day pass? Was he released into the custody of his uncle?
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On March 13, 2017 at 6:16 AM, MissLucas said:
And I may have laughed a bit too much about her mishap in the bathroom because almost the same thing happened to a good 'friend' of mine *cough*
On May 21, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Kohola3 said:I laughed out loud when Barbara was juggling the diaphragm! Springy little devil, wasn't it?
I loved that little bit, but I'm also a big fan of physical comedy.
On March 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Ceindreadh said:I may have given him a burst of applause when he appeared at the door all disheveled and hungover and looking very well indeed! ;-)
4 hours ago, savannah31401 said:Super hot! I couldn't believe how hot he looked.
I may have squealed a little. Who knew Tom was that hot in an undershirt? I hope now that Tom and Barbara are married, maybe we'll get a scene of two of them in a domestic setting and can get another glimpse of Tom in an undershirt or even shirtless.
On May 21, 2017 at 6:38 PM, BooksRule said:It was before my time, but I remember reading something bout the Pill being much stronger (not sure if that's the right word) in the beginning. As, Calvada stated, Wilma was a little overweight, she smoked and we saw her take three pills at once at least one time. I'm hoping they'll revisit the topic next season and we'll get more about what people thought about it back then.
The first version of the pill had hormone levels that were much higher than later versions. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
On May 21, 2017 at 7:36 PM, jaybird2 said:i thought the pill came out later than '62. i thought it came out about the time abortions were legalized.
The pill was approved by the FDA in 1960. I'm guessing what you're thinking of is Eisenstadt v. Baird, a 1972 Supreme Court ruling which established that unmarried couples had a right to possess contraception.
4 hours ago, txhorns79 said:I was so confused about the woman's death. I thought the issue was she wasn't taking the birth control appropriately (i.e. taking three pills at once after having sex), but they kind of ignored that to just suggest her issues would have occurred anyways.
This is somewhat accurate. Embolisms were a common side effect of the pill during it's first few years. Even women who were taking it correctly could still develop embolisms, and I think smokers were at a higher risk than nonsmokers.
17 hours ago, abbyzenn said:Loved that everyone chipped in to help her buy a wedding dress. And it was so sweet that she asked Phyllis to be her bridesmaid.
As soon as I saw her having trouble making the dress, I knew that was going to be their gift to her.
9 hours ago, jschoolgirl said:I wonder how much a carousel would have cost and how much time it would take to order and set up.
I don't think cost was an issue, because I don't think he paid full/market price for it. For all we know, the owner had a connection to Nonnatus House, maybe the carousel owner was delivered by one of the Nonnatus Midwives, or maybe one of them helped his sister, another relative, or a good friend through a difficult birth.
7 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:I know that the county fairs travel around a lot and they can set up a carousel pretty quickly, like within a day. I suppose that you would have to get a permit and close the streets too. Lots of impractical things, but, I'm just focusing on the joy and magic of the event and not the details that might have made it too impractical. lol If I ever get married again, I might look into it. I'm not kidding. It might be blowing a lot of money, but, I just think it's super cool.
Here you go.......the party goes to the carousel. It's $1000.00 per hour.
https://janescarousel.com/assets/private-events-at-janes-carousel.pdf
Getting the permit wouldn't be too hard. I'm guessing Noakes would have helped. As for impractical wedding ideas, go for it. I'm not a girly girl, and I have no interest in dresses or big name designers. If I ever get married, I would be totally okay with a $200 dress from David's Bridal. However, I want a zoetrope cake. http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2015/10/andre-duboscs-newest-animated-zoetrope-cake-melting-pop/
6 hours ago, MissLucas said:I did not find the carousel that unrealistic since we're in London. Getting the carousel to some village in the countryside within one day would require magic logistics. But in the middle of London with enough cash in your hands - why not? Tom may have known a Carny who was willing to move his carousel from its (winter) location for one day.
I agree. Tom may know the Carny from a church or street carnival, and the Carny may have been happy to donate the carousel to a worthy cause for a night, especially since it was probably in storage and not in operation making money for him.
8 hours ago, caitmcg said:I knew someone who was the eldest of three; she and her younger brother had been adopted because her parents had tried for some time and couldn't conceive (I don't remember the why, but it was thought to be related to a health issue of her mother's), and a few years later, her mother got pregnant.
I've heard about couples who are told it will be very difficult for the mother to give birth, so the couple adopts, and within a year or two the wife is pregnant.
43 minutes ago, LittleIggy said:I hope next season they'll show us more about Sister Winifred. She has to have a backstory. For a nun, she is awfully bubbly.
Me too. I'm a big fan of backstory.
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23 hours ago, Umbelina said:
Personally, I don't blame a single war survivor for doing what they had to do to stay alive, especially that particular war, where so many were forced to do things that were horrific, just to live another day. Whether it was taking gold from corpses teeth, or leading newly arrived children to the Gas Chambers or the creepy medical experiments if they were twins, what choice did any of them really have? I would have a very hard time judging any concentration camp survivors, or prisoners, as Natalie certainly was.
My understanding, in terms of who gets punished through the (internationals/war crimes) court system was that concentration camp prisoners could not be charged. However anyone who wore a government or military uniform of the Nazis could be tried.
14 hours ago, J-Man said:I thought it was interesting that in the final Oleg-Ruslan conversation in this episode, they made it clear that Oleg, with the status that comes from his father's position in the government, was benefiting from the same access to better shopping opportunities that they're actively trying to combat. And I wonder if Ruslan's refusal of Oleg's offer says something about the outcome of this story line.
I had a variation on your question. Would Oleg get in trouble for bringing someone into the shop who didn't normally have access?
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1 hour ago, Helena Dax said:
Every time I see Henry with Stan I'm afraid Henry's going to say something incriminating.
I've thought about this, but Henry doesn't know anything. I'm not sure how aware he is of where his parents are at any given moment. What could he say?
29 minutes ago, sistermagpie said:Sure he genuinely thought it was cool and exciting. But he's not a wide-eyed 8-year-old being sincere in thinking Stan was the FBI comic book hero. In talking to Stan and his parents he talked about what he really thought was cool--the Vault, the computers, the boss with all the power. He knew he was giving it more patriotic flattery in his essay. He's not lying to Stan about loving the FBI, but he is striking a pose for the essay, which Stan caught. Henry does that. He's getting older and he's a smart, sophisticated kid, one who plays around with different things. He's not Paige talking about how great Pastor Tim's politics are.
I think the "patriotic flattery" in the essay was more for his teachers than for Stan. It is sort of a generation xerox situation. Paige swallows ideology hook line and sinker and easily becomes a true believer like Elizabeth. Henry is more cautious, thoughtful and less likely to dive right in.
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2 minutes ago, stagmania said:
Or because their love for each other is what gives them the strength to try to get out, which results in a bad ending for both.
This makes me think of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid or Bonnie and Clyde. They try to get out, but realize there's no way for them to come out alive. In that kind of situation, I think that Philip would figure out they were doomed before Elizabeth.
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6 minutes ago, stagmania said:
I keep thinking about the comment last week that the wedding was so evocative of Romeo and Juliet and their doomed love. I really don't think that's a coincidence, either.
When I made the comment about the wedding in Romeo and Juliet I wasn't thinking about the idea of doomed love and tragedy, but that works really well for this story, thematically. I especially like the idea that they are doomed because they are in love. Perhaps their love for each other will be what leads to their demise/downfall (one goes back for the other/one stays instead of running when he or she had the chance).
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19 hours ago, Erin9 said:
Loved that Stan told Henry the truth about what the FBI can do to people- make them have difficulty trusting anyone and ruins relationships. I think that took some of Henry's enthusiasm away. And showed Stan's own burnout too.
Stan did the right thing. He saw that Henry had "star spangled eyes" and couldn't let him think about going into the FBI without letting him know about the emotional cost or toll it could take on someone.
19 hours ago, Tetraneutron said:And why is it P and E spend multiple scenes every episode discussing in detail their Paige strategy, but we never hear what their Henry strategy is. Are they grooming him? Has Paige's breakdown convinced them (ok, Elizabeth) they DON'T want Henry to be a second-gen illegal after all? How do they feel about their son's surrogate father and his access to the inner circle of the FBI? These are things the audience needs to know.
I don't think they have a Henry strategy. If they have anything close to a Henry strategy it's "let's keep him from finding out as long as we possibly can."
19 hours ago, sistermagpie said:His conversation with Stan (who could tell Henry was laying it on thick in his essay--Henry's quite the slick suck up when he wants to be; I suspect he's like that with Chris's dad) was nicely foreboding if the kid ever figures out he’s the family member who’s not trusted.
I didn't see the scene that way. I thought it was Henry being actually impressed and thinking that the FBI was cool and amazing.
17 hours ago, minamurray78 said:Henry fawning over the mail bot was so cute.
12 hours ago, Ina123 said:Or Henry's next conversation will be about the mail robot and how he wants too go into robotics.
I could totally see this happening. Henry is a kid who likes technology/gizmos/gadgets. I'm surprised he hasn't tried building things at home.
8 hours ago, benteen said:I have no idea why they didn't just do a snatch and grab with the Russian woman. It's not like they were trying to get at another trained agent. Just snatch her and get her away from that location. Flat out executing her and her husband in their own home is going to attract a major investigation by the police. Making her disappear would have triggered an investigation too but not like this.
Unless they make it look like a robbery/homicide.
5 hours ago, Erin9 said:He has always, always been the type to do his own thing. There have been many scenes where you see him pointedly playing games rather than interacting with the people in the room.
Someone (I can't remember who it was) compared Paige and Henry to characters in The Godfather. In this way, Henry is very much like Michael. Even before he knew that the family business was, Michael had no interest in it. After he learned what it was, he still had no interest in it. Also, like Vito, Philip and Elizabeth don't want this life for him.
Sooner or later I think Oleg's investigation is going to pit him against his father, or someone very good friends with his father. Did the higher ups know this was going to happen when they assigned Oleg the job? Is this an actual investigation meant to have results, or is it all a sham/just for show?
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1 hour ago, okerry said:
Would still love to see Penny have a small-time career in the movies with roles as an extra, walk-on parts, more crap movies like Serial Apist, etc. That would give them free rein to bring in all the real-life guest stars they wanted, as when Penny's an extra in their movies, etc. Still waiting for Shatner to show up, especially after the Priceline commercials he and Kaley did together.
I was always hoping Penny would do voice work in video games. She could run into celebrities at the recording studio. While she's in one studio recording lines for a video game, a celebrity is in a different studio recording a commercial or an animated movie.
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13 hours ago, Driad said:
Hoping Scotty will return for some visits. I like him better than some of the regulars.
12 hours ago, Emily Thrace said:Also Scotty can come back anytime I'm sure the team could use a pilot.
Yes! He can be their sane version of Murdock.
1 hour ago, 3girlsforus said:I loved Happy's music video. When she first said she recorded a single I thought that was really out of her character. But I love that she knew it was stupid but did it for the money. This show may be silly, but it's fun. I love that it doesn't take itself seriously
I love that everyone on the show seems to be aware they aren't doing some gritty sci-fi drama and that they understand it's pure action-adventure grab the popcorn fun.
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8 hours ago, starri said:
Because it wasn't a period piece when it debuted. And just about every element of the plot doesn't exist anymore: Angel and Mimi would never get so sick, the battle between the Bohemians and the Benny's of the world ended, and the Benny's won. I don't know that we're yet at a point where the show can be retro, which is one of the reasons why the movie was so godawful.
Bye Bye Birdie may have been written of its time, but it wasn't supposed to be serious. And Grease is set in the 50s but it was written in the 70s, so it was already retro even then.
There's just something about a show with Serious Themes set contemporary to its debut that doesn't age well. I love A Chorus Line, and their revival was a pretty good attempt, but it's never going to really work again.
If the plot doesn't work unless it's set in the late 1980s/early 1990s, then keep the setting as the late 1980s/early 1990s, and the problem is solved. Some things can be updated or set in any time period and others cannot. The Normal Heart was written in the early 1980s and is about the early 1980s. When HBO did a made for TV movie of it a few years ago, they kept the original setting, because it's about a particular time and place. Rent is also about a particular time and place. I saw the DVD release of the stage show and I didn't see the problems with it that you saw, but maybe I was too young to realize it.
As for the movie, the two biggest problems were that the cast had aged out of the roles, and Chris Columbus was the wrong person to direct the movie.
6 hours ago, Snow Apple said:I think those who grew up in the 90's will watch for nostalgia. And they can tell the younger folks "That's how it was when I was your age." Then they can discuss what's changed and what haven't.
I still think people can identify with two groups battling it out, especially these days.
Also, since this will be a television event, they don't have to worry about losing money due to poor ticket sales.
Exactly. If the ratings are down then the network will figure out that people do not like serious musicals as live made for TV events and avoid them in the future.
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in The Americans [V]
If they were in a large group, or at least 3-4 people walking back to the parking lot, they would be significantly safer.
There was something about this episode that bothered me. If it's already August, that's way too late to be getting the acceptance letter. I think private school admission works more like college admission, they would know if they got in during the spring. If they wanted to make the big reveal happen in August, then have him get wait-listed, then have him get off the wait-list in August.
Kimmie observation: She may have liked that her relationship was Jim wasn't sexual. After being used to relying on her body and looks to get what she wants or to attract people, it might have been a refreshing change to have someone who was genuinely interested in her as a person.