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He looks good enough. And where will the wedding take place?

The same was said about S7 and 7 episodes this year. People were saying that it means nothing until HBO confirms it. And then they did confirm what D&D already said. I have no doubt that S8 will have 6 episodes.

Liam Cunningham also said that S8 will have 6 episodes. I think that now it is confirmed. 73 episodes for this epic story. Not that much, really, considering how many characters and storylines there was.

So, we know that we will see Rhaegar and Lyanna's wedding in S7. But what do you think, where the wedding will take place? ToJ? And who will be present?

I agree that they have some idea, I never said that GRRM told them nothing, but that's just that - an idea. It would be like if they just had an idea after S1 that Robb and Cat would die during the war, but they didn't know how. I think that we will see more spoilers from the books in S8, because I think that GRRM's ideas will be naturally more fleshed out about the endgame of every big character. And we know that there is third big plot twist from the books (that GRRM told D&D) coming in S8. I don't think that they will have a tough time filling blanks in S8, because 30-40 characters is not that much for them, and I believe that they already know the fates of at least 10-15 characters from George. I think they know from him what will happen with Arya, Sansa, Jon, Dany, Tyrion, Bran, Cersei, Jaime, Sam, maybe Theon. I think they also know Davos's fate because that actor (I can't remember his name LOL) said 2 ago that George told him some spoilers about Davos in future. If GRRM told him, he told D&D as well. I'm not sure he knows what will happen with Malisandre, Varys, Brienne or Euron. If we look what the show is doing with Euron, I'm not sure that GRRM has a plan. Every other character is not that big, so I think that it won't be that hard for D&D invent an ending for 20 (or more) characters. They've been mostly good at killing smaller characters that are still alive in the books.

No, I don't think so, because I don't really see that the food will play that important part in the war with Dany or against the WW. Of couse it will play a role, like in every war, but nothing game-changing or interesting or exciting in terms of story. So, we will watch LF blackmailing Dany or Jon with food? That's the culmination of his story in the books? And you are talking about the relevance of the Vale within the story, I'm speaking of it from the storytelling perspective. Why GRRM created that place? Why he did send Sansa there? Why he made the point that their army is fresh? Why LF wants to move to the North in the books? Why GRRM created some sort of sentiment for Ned Stark in the Vale? It has to play the same role in the main plot of this story. If Martin created that place just so they could sell food during the WW's invasion, he could have sent Sansa to the Reach.

I agree with you on this. S6 was one of my favorite seasons, and I really liked what they did, but it became clear to me that GRRM didn't give that much informations to D&D as I expected. If you look at Arya's storyline, in the first few episodes they used her chapters from ADWD where she is blind, then they used that one chapter that she has in TWOW as an inspiration to create that "Lady Crane plot" and then they concluded that storyline. I remember that one of GRRM's editors said that he could write a whole book of Arya's adventures in Braavos. And I realized that her storyline in Braavos is just a compilation of short stories without any plot relevance. When D&D finished her chapters from ADWD and TWOW, that storyline just ended and she returned to Westeros. I don't think that that development will happen that fast in TWOW. And the Northern storyline in S6 is something that won't happen in TWOW in that way. I believe that Ramsay and Jon will clash, because there is foreshadowing for that in the books, and I really don't think that Stannis will be the one to defeat the Boltons, especially because we know from S6 that Jon will become KITN. I don't see how that can happen in an interesting way if Stannis wins. Maybe even GRRM doesn't know. LOL So as I said, I believe that Jon will leave the NW, I believe that he will have a battle with Ramsay, and I believe that he will be the king, but everything else will be different in the books. Ramsay won't have Rickon, Jon can't have interactions with Sansa before the battle and that was the most important part of his storyline in S6. (I think that Sansa and LF will arrive to save the day in the books as well, because that is the only way in which GRRM can make the Vale storyline from the books relevant in any meaningful way for the overall plot), And KL's plot is also a show original plot, from start to finish. D&D said that the Green trail was their idea. We can't be even sure that Cersei will take the Iron Throne in the books. Tyrion and Varys won't be in Meereen ruling together in TWOW, and battle for Meereen will be something that will take place at the beginning of TWOW, not as a culmination of that storyline. And everything that Varys and Tyrion were doing in Meereen was in a way an adaptation of Dany's chapters from ADWD. They've cut other cities from Slaver's Bay in S5, and they saved that for S6. In the books Dany is dealing with problems inside and outside of the city at the same time, but in the show they've just dived that, and gave inside problems to Dany and outside problems to Tyrion. Selmy is alive in the books as well. I agree that tyrion will be Dany's Hand in the books. Daario and Jorah won't be a part of Dany's storyline, and Jorah won't be trying to find a cure. I think that Dany will spend much mor etime with the Dothraki in TWOW. Iron Islands and Riveralands plots are something adapted from AFFC. Walder Frey won't be killed in that way because Manderly used Frey pies in the books. They said that the Hound's storyline was show-original. In Bran's storyline we got "Hold the door" from TWOW, but GRRM said that it will happen differently, and I think that everything else in that storyline was show original, including Benjen Stark as Coldhands. Sam's storyline was show original, and his arrival to Oldtown was the end of his AFFC's storyline. So when you look at S6 it really is just an adaptation of AFFC and ADWD in diffrent way combined with original material and very few spoilers from the books(Hold the door, Jon as KITN, Sansa and LF in the North, Tyrion as Dany's Hand and Dany's victory in Meereen and with the Dothraki, and I'm not even sure that Dany will be part of that victory in Meereen in the books). And there is YG's plot in the books, Doran is alive, LSH is in the Riverlands, Brienne is not with Sansa, there are more Tyrells, you have that storyline in th Vale with Sansa, Myrcella, Stannnis and Shireen are still alive in the books. Theon and his sister are not with Dany, so they have different storylines in the North, Davos is not with Jon at all, he is searching for Rickon, and Tyrion didn't meet Dany in the books yet, Euron is much bigger character in the books, in the show it seems that he will be just Theon's antagonist, something that can't happen in the books, because they've never met. So, yeah, I don't see how TWOW won't be a mess just like the last two books, I don't see how GRRM can finish this story in 7 books with this pace and I don't think that he will finish the books at all.