[S06.E07: The Long Road Home]

On 9/27/2016 at 2:12 AM, mamadrama said:

Our son died 6 years ago. After he died, my husband felt the need to change something about him physically. He didn't feel the same on the inside so he wanted that reflected on the outside. As a result, he grew a beard. He's had it now for 6 years and has refused to shave it off, although he does keep it neat and trimmed. 

After watching that scene with the bearded trio he marched straight into the bathroom and, for the first time in half a decade, I heard that razor going. 

<3<3 Hugs to you, fellow member of the club no one wants to be a member of... 

[Happily Ever After Social Media And Speculation]

Melanie and Devar, AND Paola (yay) and her husband, Russ ...? 

[TMZ On TV - General Discussion]

If Van leaves it might be game over for me.

[S11.E06: Frenemies Of The State]

Guess I'm in a handbasket for one, but I don't find Brianna's kids cute in the least. They look like tiny pinched-faced buzzcut versions of their father to me. They're a big bland ball of 'meh IMO, and I'd be ever so happy if they weren't forced to the forefront to humanize and take the heat off the 'ho wife, much like Phaedra & her crotchfruit over on RHOA. 

I call shenanigans on Troy getting that key himself and getting in the car. I also thought they were SUPER neglectful letting those little boys run around that work site! WTF?? Running down unfinished stairs, tripping over bricks. That was just stupid to have them there, and extra stupid to not have them in hand, if in fact they had to be there.

Still have unresolved feelings about Shannon, but they're improving. I did like her not holding back and busting out that "who the fuck do you think you are" to Kelly - you could see in her face she was shook, like she started a knife fight with some OC California cream puff and found out she was fighting a mid-western gal with a gun.

I'm certain about my feelings for Kelly - she's a stupid racist thirsty ass _____ - but her house is everything. I love almost every bit of the clean spare whiteness, and am jealous beyond words of the indoor/outdoor living room overlooking the beach. Life just isn't fair.

Harkening back to previous thread - this "she's so ghetto" bullshit sits exactly the same with me. There's nothing ghetto about any OC bitch. Call it trashy, if anything. Ghetto folks have it hard enough without being tagged and blamed with the behaviors of spoiled trashy white women with too much time on their hands. 

[Odd Mom Out - General Discussion]

On 7/19/2016 at 1:30 PM, MerBearHou said:

Also get a kick out of seeing Stephanie March as one of the "loving the single life" divorcee-squad and can't help but think of her pig ex, Bobby Flay. 

Thank you! That was driving me crazy (trying to place her) but I eventually just gave up.

As someone who just a couple of months ago binge-watched GoT 'til catching up at S6 Ep4, and is now a totally obsessed GoT evangelist,  I *totally* related to both Vanessa and Jill. I have a friend who is super in - pre show book reader and all - who tried to get me interested for years but I wasn't buying. 

Me (before as Jill): "Yeah ... I'm just not into sci-fi. I hate wizards, I hate magic, I hate flying things, I hate capes, I hate quests, I hate spells, I hate animals that don't exist! 
Me (after as Vanessa): " I just finished season three of "Game of Thrones"! Everybody's dead! There are bodies everywhere! Fetus carved out! It's a bloodbath! I need therapy! I need deep analysis, and I'm sending the bill to HBO!

"Okay, calm down, it's just a TV show."

Me: How dare you???   

I was sooo waiting for Vanessa to bust out a "Winter is coming..." when she went out into the snow(pocalypse).

She should have just used the hook that got me to watch - wanting to check out Khal Drogo in Ep 2.

[S11.E04: Frozen Assets]

On 7/19/2016 at 8:29 AM, ghoulina said:

As far as Breanna's health issues go, I'm sure Vicki is loving this. LOVING this. I'm probably going to hell for this, but I even entertained the idea that as soon as Vicki heard that Breanna was having issues again, she immediately started working on getting her out to CA. "You're not going to get better out there. You need your old doctors in OC. And Ryan still has to work, but I'll be here to help you with the boys. You have to come now, so these amazing doctors can get you under control. I'll even get you guys a house. You'll get better out here, the ocean breezes will be so good for you". And on and on and on until Breanna caved. Vicki even said the words, "TAKING her out of OK" last night. So I definitely think she was the one who orchestrated all this. She sold it to Breanna as for HER benefit, but old Vicki really wanted a storyline. Now she gets to be the long-suffering grandma, caring for these two boys while her daughter's life is on the line. 

Sure, Breanna is an adult and she can make her own decisions. But there is a long time, dysfunctional dynamic going on there, that I'm sure is pretty hard to break away from. . 

 

On 7/19/2016 at 9:38 AM, njbchlover said:

It's horrible for me to say this, but I really think that the reason Vicki "bought" Brianna a house in the OC, and drove with her sick daughter across the country was so that she could use Brianna as a redemption arc.  What I can't figure out is why Brianna would agree to it.

Etc.

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Brianna HATED Oklahoma, talked shit about it at every opportunity and that Vicki announced months ago that she was trying to get Brianna to come home, and Brianna was working on that as well. Vicki also campaigned to have her become a full-fledged Ho'wife so that a) she could have her back home and b) have someone to film with. And Brianna was all over that, on her appearance on WWHL where she served as bartender. No mention that an OC return was a medical necessity - if it were, wouldn't that go over better than an "I hate Oklahoma??" announcement on national TV?

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Though Vicki was never shy about her distaste for the state, as you can see in the below clip from The Real Housewives of Orange County, she said Briana was never a fan of living there, either. "The truth of the matter is, she's a California girl, and she hated Oklahoma," Vicki said. "They had to make a choice of where they wanted to move because he's actually getting retired from the Marine Corps. So they didn't want to stay in Oklahoma anymore. So coming back to Orange County was the natural thing for her to do."

[S08.E15: All Bets Are Off]

11 minutes ago, SparkleznConfetti said:

Dorinda is that wench that will make suggest you "eliminate" your "problem", have you confess all of your transgressions to her after its done, drive you the precinct to give in your statement,call in and collect the reward $,  be "there" to bail you out, and then recant ever knowing you till the trial is over. All while keeping her hands clean. She's a crafty one. 

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Awesome and perfect.

Riced cauliflower, huh? It did not look tasty at all (and I've seen it lots) but if reports are it's delicious ... I'll give it a go. Thanks, Adam. Your beard still looks like shit, tho.

[S08.E15: All Bets Are Off]

15 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I can't applaud Jules' confrontation of Bethenny because Jules spent the first couple of weeks portraying herself as an incompetent nitwit and is now angry that they think she's an incompetent nitwit. If that's Jules' self deprecating humor, then it worked perfectly. Joke's on you dumbass. Additionally, the calzone thing wasn't a joke. It was fucking weird. Just say that you were loopy on pain meds that you shouldn't have mixed with booze.

I don't like Bethenny. I want to be on Jules' side in this stupidity, but I can't because I think she's so dumb and boring. It's clear that she's intimidated by Bethenny and starts stumbling over her thoughts, but none of this is entertaining. Her husband is a shitbag. She's a moron who is probably too sick to be on this show.

Dorinda Meddler is right. She's been messy as fuq this season. I'm also going to call bullshit on her labeling Bethenny as the one with the good heart and Carole as mean. Both of these heifers are mean. Dorinda is so afraid of being on Bethenny's bad side that she'll say stupid shit like that.

I feel like Bethenny only reconciled with Sonja because she could do it in front of Jules and demonstrate that she, Bethenny, is nice. It was a complete power play.

I think it's been 3 years since we've seen an event at Sonja's house. I'd say it was a pretty good effort on her part, except for her swanning around her own dinner party at her own home with her handbag and her letting it slip that they use the intercom in case it's Con Ed at the door. Girl, why you so scared of Con Ed at your door unless your power is about to be turned off.

Not surprised that LuAnn sidled up to Tom when he was on a date. You can't steal a man, but you can sure show up with a 90% off coupon.

Hahahaha! I don't even know what the hell that means, but that cracks me up.  I agree with everything here except this:

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I feel like Bethenny only reconciled with Sonja because she could do it in front of Jules and demonstrate that she, Bethenny, is nice. It was a complete power play.

Jules says something similar in her blog, but I don't think it was that at all. You can hear the slurring at that point, and I think it was as simple as Bethenny really did feel bad after eviscerating Sonja, and was sufficiently lubricated enough to drop the wall and pull a "I love you, man" at that point. There had already been a thawing when Sonja reached out about her being sick. They have been friends and co-workers for years now, and always got along well before. Even a horrible being who is responsible for every evil in the world and undeserving of life can legitimately miss someone. Sometimes you curse someone out because you're more hurt than angry, and that only happens with the people who are close enough for that to happen.

[S08.E15: All Bets Are Off]

8 minutes ago, Sai said:

Yeah, same as Bethenny saying she was bleeding from every orifice of her body.

It's a contest?

Since coming into this group, I've often asked myself, "Why is there always yelling and screaming? Why is someone always storming out of the room in tears? Why is someone always being mocked, insulted, judged or left out? WHAT PLANET ARE WE ON?!" And then it hit me like a meteor: We are on planet Bethenny. Unlike on planet Earth where friendships are formed and shaped through mutual support and encouragement, on planet Bethenny (which is circled 24/7 by a moon named Carole) it is acceptable for friends to disparage one another behind their backs, to judge, berate and abandon one another on an almost constant basis.

I'm sorry, but why do these women - in this case, Dorinda and Jules - keep acting like they've joined some nice society ladies who lunch club, and they stay clutching their pearls at antics that built and have sustained an entire damned franchise for over a decade now? A franchise that they knew exactly what the fuck it was when they joined? This is irking me now. Stop with the Pollyanna shit, both of you. Dorinda, your man was desperate for you to sign up, and Jules, it's what you wanted forever. You both made your deals with the devil, so stop trying to show how above the material you both are. Ask Carole how well that's worked out for her.

And you both knew the deal about Bethenny and this show when you joined, surely Dorinda pulled her nose out of Bethenny's ass long enough to tell you.

What the hell happened to the quote button? And why the hell do I keep swearing/cursing in every post tonight??? Fuck if I know.

[S08.E15: All Bets Are Off]

Texted 100 times...or, you know, 3. Same difference. Jules saying "I don't appreciate you portraying me as "a" stupid" made me giggle .

Dorinda, stop acting brand new. You know damned well it's not the place or the party. You keep bringing the same damned PEOPLE to these events and you know how it goes. And it won't change so quit playing. 

Ramona and Lou walking on Madison Avenue*, loved the film, it looked classic housewives. Funny they acted like they were walking but really didn't move 10 feet from the corner for all their movement during the whole conversation. Ha! *Cheap thrills to see them on my avenue. Even if it was 40+blocks away.

"When you know, you know, I'm going to my deathbed with this guy." Yeah, this will end well.

Sooo... thought DORINDA set LuAnn up with Tom, and Ramona's story was fabricated from thin air?  But now there's something to it, except Lu claims she didn't jump on the guy when he was with another girl; she merely saw him with her and he allegedly fell in love at first sight, let HER hand go, took yours, and you left with him. Because that's the kind of man you want to be with - one that would ditch someone he was dating for several months and close enough with to be holding hands while on a date to leave with another woman. Even if that woman is you. Oh Lu. You double talking, double dealing shitty version of womanhood, you. You're a lying liar who lies and makes up her own versions of shit with her own justifications that supposedly makes everything okay. 

I dunno. Every guy that ever tried to get with me even after being told I had a boyfriend/husband just made me think less of him - I would even ask "why would you even WANT me for yourself seeing how easy I go off with someone else?"

It's times like this I reflect on the wisdom of Mint Condition. "What kind of man would I be, and what kind of girl would you be, if you did the same?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORva1mGyyJ0

Oh wait, I know. One who has clearly been working on bagging a Real Housewife for years now. Ramona was too nuts and Sonja clearly only wanted him for his ... benefits. I'm sure he picked up on Lu's absolute thirst and realized this was a closer. We'll soon see why he wanted one.

Dorinda. So shitty, you are. A liar and collaborator and kissing Bethenny's ass while stabbing Carole in the back. Why has she turned on her so suddenly after their London lovefest?

Somebody needs to look into Sonja's intern scam. Call them bitches volunteers or something.

For someone who doesn't want to talk about this ever again, Jules, ya just keep talking about it. And how exactly does Dorinda keep getting a pass when she's doing the same 2 feet away talking about Jules that Bethenny is doing? I'm ready for someone to call her out on her two-faced antics.

Ahh, liquor. While trapped on a bus. Truth serum in a situation that forces people to deal. I'm not mad at them though. Day drinking is my shit. As is forgiving people after enough cocktails.

[First Looks: Upcoming Episodes]

I'm in the school of both. Good for Jules for finally speaking up directly to Bethenny if she had a problem with her. That's what a person should do. That said ...

On 7/9/2016 at 7:22 PM, ichbin said:

"Dorinda Meddler".  It's quips like these that make me like Bethenny.   

Nope, I'm not buying into the "good for Jules" sentiment because she's taking on Bethenny.  She's portrayed herself as too big a twit until now as far as I'm concerned...her ageist comments, how difficult she finds it to look after her two kids, expecting her kid's nanny to be her stand-in at sales, hands in the food, etc, utensils cooked in food, and the oversharing and over dramtizing  about her bruised nether region are just a few examples.  I don't find her ways cute or amusing at all and she can't blame editing because she said it and did it.

Don't be a dumbass Jules. You spent valuable first impression time cultivating an image as an airhead, vapid twit of a wife,and babbling, goofy gadfly of a Housewife.  Now you want to call foul because she (and many of us) took you at your word? GTFOH.   You can also miss me with the "privilege" of letting people into your eating disorder. It's just narcissism of the highest order.

And yes, you certainly have a mean, bitchy bone in your body, otherwise you couldn't have talked all that shit about age and menopause. Was it after being shown a scene or two and then asked questions? Probably. Does it show you too have a bitch bone, regardless of the how/why? YUP.

[S03.E05: Spread Thin]

10 hours ago, Alapaki said:

Also, is it just me, or did that African American woman in the dance class with the big hair (the one who rode in on the Scooter at the parade) give off a cross-dressing-man vibe to anyone else?.

Yes. I thought it was a transgendered woman, and found myself looking for some additional external clues. I was going to say something in my post ... but then I didn't want to say the wrong thing. Thanks for taking that hit, girl! :D 

[S08.E14: The Benefits Of Friendship]

4 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

No two situations are ever the same. There are certainly differences, but it is impossible to ignore the similarities. So what becomes more important? The differences or the similarities?

In both the case of Adam/Carole and Lu/Tom, the guy had had relationships of some sort with another woman known to them.

In both cases the relationships were either over, or had never been much to begin with. Sonja claims she was friend with benefits for 10 years. Lu claimed last season that while Adam and her niece had broken up months before, that they were still friends with benefits. She never denied that both had moved on. 

Lu knew that Tom had slept with Sonja, and had gone out with Ramona. True, for whatever reason she denied knowing about Ramona and Tom, but I find it hard to believe that anyone would buy that story. It was reported in the press months before filming began that Ramona had a new love interest. The reporting made it sound like it had the potential to be serious, and that they had been out 6 or so times. 

Carole waited a week to tell Lu about the Adam deal (Lu didn't seem to mind much at the time, but went bat shit crazy about it a year later on Twitter). Lu waited several weeks before she told anyone about Tom, and didn't expect that anyone would be upset about it. He was no longer in a relationship with either woman, so why would they care? 

Lu doesn't care what Tom did before he met her. She has said it over and over again. It just doesn't matter to her. She expects people to be happy for her if they are her friends. Carole didn't care who Adam had gone out with before her, and expected for her friends to be happy for her. 

Both women fell hard and they fell fast. Neither one wanted to be judged harshly for falling in love. Lu is lucky in that she is facing the firestorm live and in person. She gets to make her grand statements and make others look foolish on the show (I loved what she said to Ramona). Carole wasn't so fortunate. Lu acted like she still cared about her, vacationed with her, had fun with her, etc., but viciously went after her on Twitter almost a year later. Carole didn't have the opportunity to state her case, share her feelings, or defend her relationship on the show the way Lu does now. Therein lies the biggest difference between the two situations. 

4 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I agree with all of this, and one could easily substitute the name "Carole" for "Lu". 

As you say, it's hard for a 52 year old woman living in NY (or anywhere for that matter) to find someone who makes them happy. Carole has also been through a lot. Divorce is hard, but so is burying your husband. Would have been nice if Lu would have treated Carole in the same manner that Lu wants to be treated. If she would have said "she is my friend and she has had a hard time of it and I am just happy for her". She didn't. She went after her in a way that she has never gone after anyone before. Yet there Carole was last night. The only one who seemed truly happy for her (and this was according to Lu). I don't dislike Lu all the time, there are things about her that I really like, but Carole is a far superior person than Lu is, IMO, and she proved that last night. 

Excellent! Thank you for this, you've done yeoman's work and saved me some time. Lu is a hypocrite in this case because she can say "IDGAF who he dated before me (friends/co-workers included), we're together now" and that's okay. Carole says "it doesn't matter who Adam dated before me (friend's relatives included)" and she's treated like the worst person ever - by LU.

3 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Too funny. I've never seen Ramona's pinot grigio. I have always assumed that it was a tristate product. I have seen in Texas Lisa Vanderpump's sangria and the Manzo's BLK water.

I was gonna say maybe I see SG products a lot because I'm in NYC ... but then, so is Ramona and I've never seen her stuff, ever.

I'm sick of seeing the non-stop promotion though, geeze. I bought one bottle once as a gift, like 4-5 years ago for a Housewife loving friend. I tried some, hence the one bottle lifetime purchase.

[S08.E14: The Benefits Of Friendship]

Hilarious, Luann demanding bitches just be happy for her happiness. Yet she couldn't do the same for Carole. Nobody is jealous of her, they just DGAF about her, her fake, pretentious ass OR her whirlwind romance that she just can't shut up about. Yes, say Tom and I are very happy, great. But nobody at the table is here for all the "he called me and then I said you hang up first, and he said, no YOU, *giggle*" bullshit details she was running down.

Really, I don't know why they don't just say "Mazel" and get on with it, why try and warn her off with dating tales? CrackerJacks don't give a damn! She ran that man down like a gazelle, and she's marrying him if he'll have her come hell or high water. She's not sitting around worrying about why a (seemingly) sane, straight, smart, RICH man in their tiny dating pool in Manhattan has never married before. Good hair don't care! Just like with the Count, the game plan is get in early and lock it down. Get them to propose quick, if you can. And if it doesn't work out? So what! That's what divorce is for, 'eh Lou? If Jacques had proposed after 2 weeks, she'd be working on her second divorce right now.

11 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

While Ramona and Sonja might be jealous of LuAnn, Bethenny and Carole certainly aren't. The reason these bitches aren't happy for LuAnn is because she was an asshole to Carole and she refuses sufficiently prostrate herself to make up for being an epic asshole. Carole's bestie Bethenny is the boss bitch and feels like LuAnn hasn't done right by her friend. The rest of these bitches are trying not to get on the wrong side of the boss bitch.

I find LuAnn's willful ignorance about what's going in this pack of feral bitches infuriating. Like she gets it, but refuses to do the thing that's necessary. She started this season trying to suck up to Bethenny with Carlos Falchi purses and big apologies hoping that it would be enough. It wasn't because LuAnn is fundamentally at her core a user. And everyone sensed that "sorry I called you a pedafile. I hope you can come to my next party" was not a heartfelt apology. The other thing that LuAnn doesn't get is that even though Sonja came at Bethenny's business, Sonja has demonstrated that she's willing to supplicate herself in front of Bethenny. LuAnn, you're the omega now.

All this.

10 hours ago, beesknees said:

My grandma used to say "bed clothes" instead of sheets.  As a little girl she used to say to me "Help me change the bed clothes".  The first time my boyfriend heard me say that he was all like "WTF did you just say to me?"  Even now, many decades later I slip and say that sometimes ;)

This is so hilarious to me, imagining your boyfriend's head whip. Hee.

8 hours ago, DelicateDee said:

Loved Bethenny's look for the candy products launch.  She looked fresh and refreshed and her dress was perfect for her look.  Those treats looked yummy too!  

I have a generally can't stand/detest relationship with the Frankel, but I grudgingly admit that I really loved that jumpsuit. The hair was cute too. Don't know if it was right for the launch, but it was a good look.

[S03.E05: Spread Thin]

Can't get out of the shower without help, can't get across the street and back with a bag of bagels without being winded, 25 blocks on a bike throws your back out, simply standing upright on skis is impossible, and you cap your nights off with a mask to keep you alive when you sleep. If that doesn't say "come get some of this fat, fab life," I don't know what does. 

Flopping down to show the vast expanse of spandex-clad rocky flesh road of the "BEG" area was cringeworthy. Would have had second-hand embarrassment if I cared even a little for Whitney. But since I didn't like her even in the beginning when people still thought she was so cute and bubbly, you know what it is now.

I'm waiting for Buddy's GF (not Lennie) to snap "his name is Buddy, dammit. Quit calling him Boo Bear!" one of these days. It's not some nickname that all his old friends call him, it's just another way for Whitney to make it clear everything and everyone belongs to her, period.

These F & F THs have gone from sympathetic and protective of Whitney, to straight up "this bitch is becoming an albatross around our/my neck(s)." I'm not a regular viewer, I just hate watch when I catch an episode or two - what happened to the friend who used to be at her beck and call, shaving her legs and driving miles to the beach to rub cream all over her naked body because she couldn't do it?

8 hours ago, Nowhere said:

All her conversations turn sexual. And why does she keep saying the radio world is so much different than a regular job? Aren't there still sexual harassment issues? 

Sure. Just ask Wendy Williams' husband. *sip*

7 hours ago, LunchBreak said:

I don't know why, but the thought of a grumpy ass Whit on a scooter (boa and all) made me chuckle, and not because of her size... It's just so very Whitney to put on a 'tude, and angrily roll through a parade at .25mph.
 

7 hours ago, mamapajama said:

She felt really self-conscious on the scooter, so decided to ride IN FRONT of the banner...in full bitch-face mode...wearing tie-dyed leggings....

These visuals are hilarious! If I hadn't seen it "live," I'd look up this clip for sure.

[S02.E09: Something Has To Give]

On 7/2/2016 at 4:03 PM, kat12379 said:

Oh no... I knew it was coming. Now that she is jumping to fulfill all of his needs, Ben is demanding Vicki be the breadwinner as well as cook and clean ? I can't. There are a small number of yeshiva men who sit and learn Torah all day while their wives work, cook, and clean and rear the children but they are born into the ultra orthodox world. Modern orthodox men are expected to work and learn Torah in free time. Again, I can't. He got a lot from Vicki and I don't know what she benefitted by marrying him.... this is why 21 is very young to get married because simply " in love" is not enough. What I wanted from a partner at 21 is different than what I wanted a few years down the road. 

Goodness, don't let Ben find out the REAL way those large families are supported in NYC. (Hint: NYC taxpayers.) Although I'm sure he's been hipped. Mmm hmm.

[S02.E09: Something Has To Give]

You know, ever since someone posted in a previous thread that they didn't really live in Harlem, I've been watching the other scenes more closely. And when she went "job hunting," there were clearly houses in the background that aren't anywhere in the city. A quick Google of the shop (which is closed now) shows it's located in Rockville Centre, NY. Which sure as hell ain't Manhattan, and a good 90 minutes from where they allegedly really live, in Far Rockaway. Reality TV ain't reality??** Therefore I can't get too arsed about their sitcom problems that are wrapped up in 60 minutes each week, until the next one.

** I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find gambling in this establishment.

[S04.E12: The Animals]

I wasn't ready. :/

I couldn't even finish, I had to stop and give it a day to finish Ep 11 and then 12. Thank goodness I stopped dicking around and watched after hearing how others were spoiled - I hate being spoiled with the fire of a thousand sons, and every day past the season drop the danger of being spoiled by reading some random article not even associated with OITNB grew.

Like many have expressed, I never expected to find myself in sobbing tears over the death of a TV character. I HATED that it was Poussey. Even as I (now) understand why it had to be her. I can't lie, I would have been happier with less audience reaction and outrage in exchange for say, losing Daya or FlaRitza. Boo would have worked too, she is a popular character that would have had a big impact. But whatever, it's done, and no more P for me. I'm finding it hard not to be turned off the character of Suzanne given her being the catalyst ... but then I'd have to blame P for getting involved to help her.

This is why we can't have nice things - like Washington & Soso 4Ever. And recaps that respect that.

[S08.E13: Steel Calzones]

OY.

On 6/30/2016 at 11:34 AM, ZaldamoWilder said:

 

I really should just wait to see if you post, then I don't have to type so much.

But it's so much more fun for me when you do. :D

On 7/2/2016 at 7:30 AM, Gaily said:

I feel like the RHNY producers are setting the stage for Sonja's departure from the show, which would be a shame.  As nutty as she is, Sonja is a genuinely nice person, really one of the rare few in the housewife orbit.  Andy Cohen has said that he wants to trim the cast to 5-6 members for next year. I imagine the two they will trim will be Sonja and poor Jules.  The need to keep Bethenny and her BFF, Carole. Dorinda is too popular with the public and deservedly so.  Luann continues to the she show's Most Valuable Player so she stays for sure.  The three wild cards are Ramona, Sonja and Jules.  Of course, they will keep Ramona for the cheap laughs she provides.  Plus if the Tom marriage is Luann's storyline next year, she will need Ramona as her foil.

I disagree with the assessment of Sonja's character, but I think she should remain over Dorinda. She has far more going on and is more entertaining, if inadvertently. Dorinda is a nothing addition (IMO). Even her big moment and impetus for the t-shirt she promoted last episode came from someone else - Sonja. She's classist, her relationship with the boor is a bore, and she's a mean drunk. And she's drunk, a LOT. If there's shaving going on, Jules and Dorinda should exit together like the best buddies they are.

On 7/2/2016 at 11:43 AM, StatisticalOutlier said:

  Other people have noted that in NYC, it's not uncommon to go through windows to get to fire escapes and the like, maybe to smoke a cigarette.

On 7/2/2016 at 11:52 AM, Lisin said:

So, as mentioned a few times here a lot of NY apartments have fire escapes/tiny balconies that you access by opening the top of the window and climbing over the bottom part of the window to get out. We know Jules smokes, so I'm thinking she was climbing out/in to have a cigarette while her kids were with the new nanny because she didn't want to go down to the street to have a cigarette and she slipped going over the window with one leg on either side.

Jules never did mention where she was, but in any event, the whole climbing out the window to the fire escape isn't something that happens from a height where Jules would slam down on her jewel. It's more of a crawl over the window. Even in the friends example, they sit and swing their legs over the window to get outside. Fire escapes in NYC aren't new, they're old, ragged and rickitey. It's your option when you have no outdoor space, don't want to walk down the stairs or smoke in your house. Climbing on a fire escape when you have an actual walk out terrace? Yeah, not a thing. I would be honestly surprised if she incurred that injury elsewhere, or in the way she states. Anyway.

On 7/2/2016 at 7:43 PM, Umbelina said:

That said, it does kind of bother me when Jules says Michael doesn't help at all.  I mean, hello!  Who does she thinks pays for the food, apartment, her stuffed full closet, the kids clothes, and the nanny?  I realize she doesn't eat any food, or very little, but kids cost money, and so does living in NY.  Until RHBH, a 2 month job, maybe 3, even even then only a few hours a week, did the woman contribute anything to help support that family? 

I used to joke that I'd happily pay for a "wife" just to take care of everything, and I do think women are undervalued for their contributions to the joint work of marriage, especially with kids involved, but damn Jules.  Michael works, that IS a contribution.

I mean really, suck it up buttercup.

If Jules really did all the work at home, and Michael came home and did nothing, ever, then I'd say it was unbalanced. Everybody is entitled to an end of their workday. But Jules' work consists of supervising OTHER people to do that work. So I'm less sympathetic to her picking up the reins at night. (Just as a father, though, Michael needs to parent his children some of the time. That's non-negotiable.) But it seems like that's their deal - Michael makes the money to keep her in the custom she's accustomed to, and in exchange he has to do none of the household stuff. Years ago when the hub and I both worked, we both cared for our kids and both did housework (me more, but I cared more about the niceties.) Fast forward to today, when he graciously allows (yeah, I said that) me to stay home and not work. So now I feel like my contribution should be all the household care. Bill paying, tax prep, cleaning, shopping, cooking (when I want to), etc. Do I occasionally get annoyed when Mr. SK puts his dishes in the sink instead of the dishwasher? Is it true he has never mopped a floor or washed a sheet in the past 6 years? Uh huh. And whenever these things bug me, I realize it might occasionally annoy HIM to go out to work, hard while I'm rolling over for some extra zzzs. And then I shutty and put that dish in the dishwasher, and mop that floor/wash those sheets. It's a trade-off.  If I had a housekeeper/nanny to do all that shit and I just managed? Sheeeeit.

Extra: To whoever posted the link to the MS:Apprentice to show Bethenny's cheeks? DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU TO HELL. It's on your head that I am streaming all the episodes from YouTube to my RokuTV right now. I don't own this behavior!

I had forgotten how nuts Jim was, and how cute Ryan was; what a whiny baby Chuck was and that always rehearsed newscaster Shawn was so irritating; that this was where I first saw Marcella (didn't remember her from this though!). She's done well for herself with her Food Network show and tenure on The Kitchen on ABC. Besides Bethenny she may be the most accomplished from those days. And Dawn. Poor Dawn. You want to root for her because everyone else is on her, but she's so annoying that it's hard to be on her side. I also forgot how Martha cuts a bitch with her words and shade. And by a bitch, I mean Bethenny. Heh.

[S08.E13: Steel Calzones]

Heather!!! Holla!!

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

I even saw her appear to take a deep breath before sharing a bite of Carole's pizza. 

9 hours ago, HumblePi said:

Check out Jules face when the pizza come and she almost cringes taking a piece.  

8 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Jules  calzone masterpiece was one of the weirdest things I have ever seen. The pained expression she had on her face while trying to take a tiny bite of that pizza was so disturbing. 

It was nice to see Heather and Carole are still good friends. I was wondering if Bethenny and Caroles ass kissing friendship would have caused a problem ,  good to see it hasn't.

Yes, it was. And I rewound that scene a couple of times. She makes a cut, then leans in slightly, backs up again and takes a little breath and exhales, then puts it in her mouth. That was a lot of extra drama for someone who has no problem. And baking all that crazy shit in there wasn't a joke, it was meant so she had a good excuse not to eat it, ha ha ...?  That said, I don't think she's a mean person, just needy. But I can't feel too bad for these folks, there's a reason you don't see my ass on reality tv, because my business is mine. Can't join the freak show and then complain the rest of the freaks are behaving badly.   

It was immediately obvious how real the friendship is between Carole and Heather, vs the relationship Carole has with Bethenny.

44 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

Loved seeing my girl Heather again 

I agree that -- given Carole's cold responses thus far - Luanne probably needn't try to apologize "one-on-one" or push a friendship with her at this point. In other words, shut up, Ramona.  I wouldn't compare it to the Lisa VP and Eileen situation though, as the "infractions" made by Lisa VP and Luanne are wildly different.   Lisa VP made one off-handed comment that Eileen took and ran with. Luanne went on a weeks (or was it months?) long social media rampage against Carole and verbally attacked her, as well. 

9 hours ago, ninjago said:

I feel like Luann has extended herself to appease what she sees as Carole's outsized anger and she's just not going to go any further.  It reminds me of LVP and Eileen: You have reason to be angry at me and I have apologized sincerely, but the level of my offense does not warrant me having to contort myself into a pretzel for you to accept my apology.  

Hey, mama! :) That's what I'm talking about, (IMO) Louann hasn't yet sincerely apologized to the level of her actual offense or has tried to make any amends in a real way. It's always a joke. However, the truth is she doesn't really give a fuck about making up with Carole, she's just trying to be on trips and in scenes with her and Bethenny for camera time. So she should either suck it up and act her ass off, or let it go and say screw it. Which leads to:

6 minutes ago, FanOfTheFans said:

I don't think it's any coincidence that Lu's feeling her oats in regards to Bethenny.  Lu about to marry into money has given her the courage to speak out against Beth.  I saw shades of Lu the snob last night. Not that Carole and Beth don't have it coming but I still was reminded of the old Lu last night. . 

Yaass! She is feeling her Tom oats, and his declarations of wanting to marry her had her right back on her Countess-ness. Because before that, she was whining and crying and bringing gifts to other people's birthdays for Bethenny. Which I'm sure Bethenny couldn't give a damn about Louann's trip. But it was very telling as soon as she got her footing and could brag about marrying her "millionaire" (so crass, Louann) she was all "fuck Beth and Carole." 

[Season 5 Discussion]

On 6/21/2016 at 11:06 AM, TV Diva Queen said:

I am sooooo not a prude, but I despise a red solo cup.  They make clear ones (my preference) and colored ones, red ones just bug the shit out of me.  

I always say when you see a red solo cup, nothing good is going on inside.

On 6/21/2016 at 1:01 PM, announcergirl said:

But ahhh, when you see a red solo cup you know we bout to turn up! A beacon, if you will, to drunks everywhere!

See? I rest my case. LOL.

These people are getting too old to be a "crew" or "the gang" anymore. Especially Reza. I'm noticing Asa trying to downplay the drama she's involved in more and more every season. I cannot with MJ, never could, even when she was the darling of fans. She's even more unappealing now. Gross, thirsty and oh so convinced she's just the qweutestwittlething! Barf. Vida, come get your girl.

GG ... I've always had a spot for her. She's her own worst enemy. For all she does, it's invariably always her who gets hurt by it.   

[Season Four: Another reason to TGIF!]

Dammit, that's twice now Bravo.

Me: "A show about watching people watch TV? That's the stupidest thing ever!"

"OMG, this is the Best. Show. EVER!!"

Me: "People's Couch Junior? UGHHHH! Why can't they just leave things alone, nobody wants to watch a bunch of stupid kids acting up watching TV shows! I'm out.... well it's only a half-hour, I guess I could just record it, for when there's nothing else on." "Nothing else on, guess I'll see what this show is about."

"OMG! I love this show! These kids are the absolute BEST."

I guess we've learned something here, Bravo. No, not that I should have an open mind. You should have better programming in general so I'd have more faith!

On 5/12/2016 at 2:26 AM, bros402 said:

If you toss mine on the pile, we have just maybe enough for each of us to share a quarter of a fuck.

**drags in full bag of fucks**  Am I too late? I wasn't using these "Beyonce fucks" at all, and I had no idea how to get rid of them. This telethon sounds awesome. 

[S03.E03: Speechless]

Talking Head Whitney: "I don't know who this girl thinks she is, but I'm about to go in there and let her know (X, Y, Z).
In Person Whitney: "Oh, hey, hi... so I see you're having a class here."

THW: "I'M the only one who teaches my class, who does she think she is?"
IPW: "So you're teaching them a routine with some turns and stuff?"

THW: "I'm about to shut this *bleep* down."
IPW: "I wish I knew I'd have brought my dance clothes. That's okay, I'll just stand right here. So you want to run through the choreography again?"

THW: "Now that the class is over, I'm going to get it straight."
IPW: "I was so scared when I saw you teaching, 'cause I'm insecure because I'm afraid of losing my class, and you worried me, and, and, ... "

Girl, bye. #fakegangster

I love how she was made up and dressed in the blue burnout at the doctor's, then she's in the car with Babs in another outfit, THEN she's meeting Will with yet another outfit on another day, and finally, "I'm on my way from meeting Will, and I notice a couple of the BGDC cars in the parking lot." Dressed in the same outfit from the doctor's office. Make up, necklace, but allegedly a week later. Mmm hmm. We see you TLC. It's not that hard to have continuity, the girl makes an impression and her wardrobe is fairly ... noticeable 
 

[S11.E01: When The Ship Hits The Fan]

On 6/21/2016 at 9:18 PM, motorcitymom65 said:

I hate to be the big fat bearer of bad news, but she is an epic jerk.  She and Vicki are no doubt soul mates.  

I haven't seen this posted yet on this thread. It was posted during the hiatus, when it happened back in April. I think a lot of us saw it and went into this season already hating her. She can apologize all she wants, and say the words don't  represent her, but there is no way that those words come out of your mouth and you are not a racist.  I don't care how drunk you are. 

http://www.allaboutthetea.com/2016/04/03/kelly-meza-dodd-caught-slurring-her-words-in-racist-rant/

Ohh ... she's THAT one. I saw her little performance months ago, forgot about it ... yeah. Card peeped.

[S11.E01: When The Ship Hits The Fan]

Shannon had that response locked and loaded. It wasn't the first time she's heard that dumb joke, and substituting "spoiled" for "successful" likely happened eons ago. 

UGH. Fucking Brianna. Get off the tit, nobody needs a junior generation of Ho'wives. Get your own damned thing.

10 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

I am skeptical of Tamra's training for a fitness competition . Ugh, I still misread her business name as "Cunt Fitness"!

It's real. And she is.

8 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Tamra looks fantastic.  Her TH look is her best yet.  For the most part I don't like her and never find her storylines at all interesting, but I find what she has accomplished with her body inspiring.  They can go the easy route with plastic surgery messing with their faces, and to an extent addressing body flaws. What she has done with her body takes work - hard work. I have never imagined that she would find any success with her gym venture, but she is a great advertisment for what is possible.  

I agree. I'm not mad at Tam-Tam's work. It takes a hell of a lot more than time, opportunity, money and a trainer. Right, Big O? That's some discipline right there. We're a couple of years apart, and she has me thinking "maybe it's not too late to pull it back together one last time ..." 

Stella, you were my girl last season. Don't do anything to make me go off you this year. Stay golden, Ponyboy. I forgot how exhausting Shannon was. And what was up with the older daughter saying "you promised when we moved to a place that takes pets I could have one." Jiggawha?

Kelly. No.

I guess I'm glad to see the ladies back, 'cause I haven't watched Jersey for the past 4 seasons. Especially after watching the Uncensored episode. I was going to delete it 'cause I hate these Unseen episodes, but glad I didn't! Well worth the watch for all the breaking of the 4th wall.