Stillhoping

Well...I guess I am diverse to haha cause I love Megan and Kris. Everytime I see the flasback pics of pretty young Kris and her sweet baby I tear up. Imagine having a baby and accepting and loving her and your husband leaves you? I really wonder if he wanted to put baby Megan in an institution Kris said she and Brendans mom drove tham and arranged dates. Really Brendan did not seem "into" Megan. Kris was great helping her to understnd she needs to be fair and make a devision. Loved Rachel...the wedding...the 5k...and oh yes her date! Frank seems sweet...movie date next? Steven is cute and slick haha.."You are my favorite Kris" Hope next week we hear Meg and Steven have updated fb status to "in a relationship" I really like them all...with yeah exception of Sean's Mom

I agree with Neurochick. Most ..maybe all...reality cast come in with some sort of ulterior motives. I still feel the first season of any show is more "real". The first Bachelor shows had much less model actress fame seekers. Even my faves Tom and Lilly may be there to promote but it seems they are actually hitting it off. As someone else said maybe the so callef experts did get it right cause "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day" haha

Awww Snarklepuss...wishing you a super smooth and speedy recovery! Re Lilly.... I do feel she has every right to worry...sometimes the logistics are overwhelming beyond the facts of surgery....like who will take care of Zues...when can I return to work...how will I manage a shower etc. Hard too cause her Mom is far away. I thought Tom really was a champ and reassured her he is there for her. I enjoyed the Birthday party...it sermed very natural unlike other various MAFS shindigs haha. Lilly really was thoughtful and Tom was so happy and appeciative. It was cite when she sat on his lap. I liked the way the families got along and really seemed to.know each other. With many of the ill fated couples over the various seasons it felt like they didnt really live together and any socialing with others was fake or drama. I really like Tom and Lilly and hope they make it

Well...I think Steven and Megan would be great together. Her boyfriend really does not seem to be that into her...the Moms even said how they set up dates etc over the years. Even in Colorado she was the one making moves and professing love. Kris laid it out for her...Megan needs to make some decisions here. I do think she and Steven are compatible...Megan has a great semse of humor and is very on trend about movies music fashion fads...Steven likes that I do notice a lot of product placement like the old infomercials Tae Bo guy haha...well maybe that's good...hopefully more $$ for the cast! The Emmy award is so great...and can open more opportunities for them!

I really like Lilly and Tom as a couple. I think they are very natural and the family get togethers seem very real. Lilly pulled off a great B day and Tom was genuinely appreciative. Yeah the producers are crafting more drama but so far each time these two pull through. I hope this is yet anithermuch ado about nothing. Even the littledisagreements they have had have been respectful...they dont seem to hit the low blows. Derek and Nick and Heather have all said things that will be hard to forgive and forget.

Youch....this is getting painful to watch. Some time back I posred my theory....and it seems even more evidence backs it up.....I feel Nick has not had love or loving sex ever with anyone of any persuasion. I said before...I sense random hookups.. the pool bathroom...hotel trysts with tourists.. one night stands...hookup with air bnb renters. Now it seems booze was a part of it? I wonder if they had one awkward boozed up unfullfilling encounter? Notice she said "had sex" didn't. say Made Love. Crappy...unfullfilling... 2 minute wham bam..or a fumbling round of ED without viagra lol...a loveless quickie with no foreplay....and more unsavory scenarios. Yuck. I think Nick is a selfish lousy lover tho the dogs enjoy kissing him ewww. I remain remain hopeful for Lilly and Tom. Dr Pepper must be kicking herself and her new colleagues...they actually paired a couple who were a good physical match. A couple who seem to have shared interests...no substance abuse problems...who are willing to put in the so called work and have some fun. Even when they disagree they have addressed the problem without attacking character. I feel..hope...they make ut. So far all the drama has been producer driven. They seem like a real couple. Real couples want to please each other...include family. Lilly's birthday surprize...Tom holding Lilly and vowing to help her thru the surgery...yes the experts failed and let 2 nice compatable peeps in. Re Heather...shame she is blamed so much....dealt a whiney pothead. I feel Derek said a lot more nasty things on the honeymoon from hell..."Below the Belt". I still feel the producers allowed the very early split due to fact weed is still illegal in Florida. Lastly...have we collectively forgotten that Dereck and Heather married 2weeks later.. pulled in as another couple dropped out. maybe actually dropped out at the alter. Just refused the ceremony? Remember Sam and Neil were also replacenent 2nd choice cast members haha

Can't posr link but super funny Lilly and Tom vid up on MAFS facebook...ewww but cute haha

Truth is....the first innocent virgin season of any reality show is almost always the most REAL. This show seems especially hard due to the fact the fans have vastly different ideas of what the cast should do. No rules or authorative host like Survivor or TAR. Ashley was stuck with a guy she didnt like but quietly stuck it out ...and was hated and raked over the coals. Heather pulled the plug ...and is being raked over the coals. Nick flips and yells how he is not attracted etc...and is rightfully feeli.g the hate...but then some say Ashley should have been "honest" and verbalized her lack of attraction...hello? Hello? I also am amazed that so few here share my lurve of Tom and Lilly...here we finally have a nice couple who have tons of that elusive chemistry and seem to be handling everything in a rational and respectful way...but some are sick of seeing them kiss...talk about their looks...I dont get it. Maybe fans really enjoy the trainwreck? Personally I have sympathy for both Ashley and Heather..I would not go to bed with a guy that repulsed me...just to please the audience. I do dislike crude Derek and nasty crude Nick for their rants and outbursts. I wish we had more chat about nice couple Lilly and Tom and 3 cute well behaved dogs!!!

I think that the pot smoking was WHY Heather was allowed to "break" her contract. The producrrs may even spring for an annulment? I never had a problem w Ashley...like Neurochick said i also am not the type who just could not go to bed with a guy if i was really turned off. I do understand the play along...I think Sonia tried. Ashley didnt try much but she hung in there. I dont blame any of them except what Nick was just horrible and hurtful. Ugh I wonder id the producers pick.train wrecks cause fans seem to like the drama? I am a big fan of Lilly and Tom...I think they make a great couple. I admire the way they have some little spats But they do not attack each other. Lilly told Tom he must wash his feet before getting in the bed and made a cute joke like dirty feet would mean no sex haha. Tom happily scrubbed up.Lilly didnt say you are gross..disgusting...blah blah. That is what I really admire about them I am team T-illy !!

More random thoughts...this is a super casual area..sub tropics.....Ft Lauderdale where I feel Derek lives is more casual than Miami. However this is hardly an area of true ad agency "account execs" and nothing in Dereks past suggests he hasvthat sort of experience. I totally feel he does telmarketing or some sort of sales. There are many phone rooms here and many promotional jobs like getting people to a timehare presentation.He might rep for a cell phone company or marketing company. I am team Heather...i think his pot smoking and his pushing "We are married let's get it on" attitude sealed the deal. I bet she could not imagine him with her friends and family...and he might screw up her job. I am glad she bailed Many seem to say Nick is leading Sonia on ...yet wanted Heather to lead Derek on? And if Nick flips and lets his real noninterested feelings out why not respect Heather for the same? She has not been hateful. Now...Tom and Lilly...Yay...they are so cute. I am team T-illy! I truly think the producers have set up and blown up their "problems" the bus..post nup...shoulder etc. Hey maybe Lilly had told him before about accident.and shoulder so he was wise to not take on medical expenses at 2weeks. I think the other cute dogs are his..Think he had in previews. Maybe the stayed w friends and family during honeymoon and moved in the house a fewvdays later than Tom Lilly an Zuse? Anyhow the all get along great and all 5 are a cute family I admire that while Tom and Lilly have ups and downs they dont pull low blows and attack each other as a person they may argue about actions BUT not attack and say hurtful things. Sam said unforgivable things to Neil and Heather abd Derek ripped into each other for example. Couples can learn from T-illy!

I still think Nick has never been in love. I dont think he has has had a loving realationship with a woman or a man. I still feel that he just hooks uprandomly. Snarklepuss had gpod insights on this too...."Commitment phobe I think Nick would commit (tho maybe not love) the "right" person...I imagine he could fall for any of the successful attractive "stars" of HGTV.maybe some other reality star or a local successful person..a really hotshot real estate agent or business owner. I think Sonias job and debt might have tipped the scales

I believe the show will ONLY pay for a divorce and only within 6 months after final show...so Jamie and Doug are outta luck. The couples legally could get an annulment BUT they would have to pay for it themselves Re the Catholic Church...their rules ONLY apply to Catholics married in the Church by a Priest...sacred matriage. A civil marriage never counted in their eyes. Some of the participants are likely Catholic..whether practicing or not...but they are able to remarry in the Church no problem.

I find it really strange that Nick never has mentioned past loves...I have my own odd theory...I think he is bi...and non involved sex as a fling. I know the area where he lives...near ft laud beach tourists..party...he can walk to Himarshee area...bars happy hours clubs...younger locals and college kids...he Las Olas...classier clubs Professionals...cougars..international and wealthier tourists...mile away from intercoastal bars...oh and he can jog to wilton manors and enjoy gay bars..clubs..drag whatever. His renters also are fair game. I feel he is a selfcentered pan sexual that has no real emotion for anyone. A pool bathroom...go to someones hotel...whatever. I think he does want his mom off his back.

Tom has said he is open to kids...I think he just shut down cause it is only two weeks...maybe afraid encouragement would mean Lilly would toss her birth control haha. I think Tom comes across very sincere and I really hope he and Lilly make it. Nick..yikes! Either he is just not into Sonia or he really is batting for the other team. It is interesting that he has not talked about previous relationships.

Ugh...Derek is really a whiner. I don't blame Heather one bit. I imagine he could be super annoying. I feel he might have been high..silly...pushing to make out and just a huge turn off. I thought he was sort of cute in the beginning but now yuck. His stupid backward cap and squinty eyes and ashtray mouth...gag me. I still want to know what type account executive he is...my guess is he is a phone salesman. We have a lot of phone rooms in south florida haha.

I think Tom was just trying to be funny and also put a little slow down to Lillys baby drama. I really like this couple and am amazed at all the put downs. They seem like they are having fun. They compromise. They are affectionate...great! Sweet littleEmma and sweet little Zeus both seem to really like Tom. My take Heather and Dereck...I think he has just turned her off. Maybe high and acting silly...over affectionate...I think she realized he would not fit in with her friends and family. He could be really annoying . My guess is that they are both Jewish maybe not real religious. Frankly Derek seems like a loser. Account Executive in S Florida can mean telemarketer or the guy at the cellphone kiosk at the Mall.

Fuzzy i feel the same way I like all of the people (yeah even Sean a bit bot his parents do annoy me) I am Megan and Kris fan .The pictures of pretty 23 year old Kris holding her baby girl with so much love being a tear to my reality tv jaded eyes. Maybe Megan lacks life skills but she has a sharp sense humor. I think she and Steven might be a great couple.

I don't understand put downs of Tom...and /or Lilly? I think they are doing great and really bonding. Tom got a little freaked with baby talk at 2 weeks but he has said he would be open in future Good points...the bus was a non.issue. Sweet little Zeus and sweet little Emma both took to Tom immediately which is a good insight to his real character. Team TomandLilly!

Bus was pretty much a non issue as we thought...the debt post nup etc...I do like both Lily and Tom but I can see he might want to protect himself if she has a lot of debt. Being into a simple lifestyle can also mean not taking on debt and being cautious. Nicks dogs are great but why would the so called experts match him with dog phobic Sonia? Whyyy? I would have checked out on Derek. Interesting this season that the experts ..Pepper? Gushed that both Nick and Tom are great earners...financially stable...which has not usually been seen on this except for David. They never said that about David. "Account Executive " can mean working in a cell phone store or as a telemarketer haha. I thought Derek was sorta cute at the start but his lousy personality is a real turnoff

Well i hope one or two couples find love. Otherwise change name "Bad extended first dates". While I hope to see romances develop I totally sympatize with Heather. If a guy really turned me off I could not fake for cameras and "experiment" Now...here is what I am finding weird.. 1) Every couple every season moved into a new shared space.they didnt live with Doug's parents or stay in Ryans basement. SO WHY the live in bus drama????? 2) The experts made a big deal that Nick smokes occasionally...Pepper even did a talking head saying he is great but hard to match cause of his smoking...THEN ALL SMOKING DRAMA IS DEREK???? What the what the??

Again...where is this a fact? Why do you say this? Any links? Thanks

I for one want to see a success. I am hoping for 2 success actually. I remain surprised when people complain about Tom and Lilly kissing and lovebugging...isn't that what these people signed up for? I think the past 2 flop season did make the 2/3 new expert team try harder...and even then Derek and heather flopped. Using pics of exes and more interviews helped but there is still the elusive chemistry factor. I dated a great looking nice guy with great job and style (Architect) but only a few times and I ended it...he repulsed me cause frankly he sweated and sweated had clammy hands.. we made out a bit but I felt...wet ..with his arms around me..ugh. shallow...yeahh..maybe he had a medical condtion ? Well I didnt stick around to find out On the other hand I have has a couple well remembered guys who were mr wrong in most respects but their touch..smell..sound of voice whatttever...yum haha. Maybe derecks whiney voice and the smell of his whatever smoke on his breath and clothes were a huge turn off?

Well I still love this show and mostly all the "cast"! I love Kris and I really respect what she tries to do for Megan. Talking so nice about the absent dad was just another thing I love about her. I think John is sweet and I like his new friend. I hope the hip hop and rap artists in the area will let him open up at small gigs and fairs and such. I really.like Steven...I wish his parents were more active in helping him connect with others more like him..ie high functioning mosaic DS. I agree he should not be saddled with Sean. I think it is really hard for Steven. He is different from both typical and DS people. His parents and counselors need to get him involved w the smaller mosaic community. Much the way little people often meet their mate at a convention (learned from reality tv haha) While I despise most sob stories on reality tv and I hate fashion models like the nastygirl with Vitaligo on ANTM I do understand why these parents are willing to try to make their dreams come true. Oh and I adore sweet Rachel and hope to see more of her.

Ouch yes...surely as a Social worker Sonia would be familiar with Section 8? I also wonder if it is truly a clothing line or just tees, hoodies etc sold at beach shops etc?

How was Heather using the show for fame? I dont see how a flight attendant could use this anyhow...maybe a new gig as a private jet flight attendant for some superstar ?