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Stevie Nicks is an absolute queen.
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Fleetwood Mac is AMAZING and yes, there is not a single successful musician who wouldn't agree with that statement. Don't even get me started on people who criticize popular music. Also, there is a real problem with people not liking certain music on the principle that "teenage girls like it so it can't be good or cool." It was the case with The Beatles, and you can't argue they are not good or cool. It's been the case with many bands/artists/books/films/TV shows since then and I hate it. In the words of Harry Styles, “How can you say young girls don't get it? They're our future. Our future doctors, lawyers, mothers, presidents, they kind of keep the world going.” Anyway that's another problem, and my feminist hill to die on. Point is Fleetwood Mac Rocks!
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Best part of the revival. Hell, best part of my year!
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I think what surprised me the most about the whole birthday party thing is that the sleepover was not planned. Every kid at that party (including April) was dropped off by their parents who knew a man was organizing/hosting the party. So when the girls called their parents to ask if they could sleep over, the parents knew it was at Luke's. Either they were fine with an adult man sleep in the same room as a bunch of 13yo girls or they expected him to be in a separate room or they were made aware by their kids that April's father's fiancee (ie. Lorelai) would be with them. Anna's mainly mad at the Lorelai sleeping in the room with the girls: ANNA: April said you spent the night downstairs. LUKE: Yeah well, I spent the night in the storage room. I though it would be a little weird… ANNA: So when you were in the storage room, your girlfriend was upstairs with the girls. LUKE: Well yeah. ANNA: How am I supposed to explain that to the other girls' parents? How am I supposed to tell them that I left their kids all alone with a woman I've never even met? Who does that! So in the first scenario I listed, if the parents were fine with a grown man they have barely met sleep next to little girls, they would probably fine with his female fiancee doing the same. In the second scenario, if they expected Luke to sleep in a separate room and the girls alone, they would probably be fine with a female adult watching over their children. And in the third scenario, if the girls had told their parents that Lorelai would be there, the parents would have agreed to it and wouldn't object after the fact.
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Well, they tell Madeline and Louise that they arrived at 2am, so if you subtract 17 hours that means they would have left at 9am, or 12pm if you believe Paris when she says she shaved 3 hours off. So it does make sense they would leave early and arrive that night/next morning.
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I think the worst was saying that they didn't want to go OUT for dinner because they would have to have a 2 minute conversation with the other guests and they would ask if she had a boyfriend and how school went and about Lorelai's job.... What about sprinting out and if you're caught you say you have a reservation you can't miss. Or simply answer those questions with "no I don't have a boyfriend, school is good, and I work in the hotel industry". I don't get why they think that their lives are so interesting to strangers that they would spend an hour asking questions. And even if they did spend an hour asking questions, at least you get to leave and have a meal at the end of it, not some disgusting purse stuff and awful singing.
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All Episodes Talk: Lorelai and Rory and the People They Love
marineg replied to solotrek's topic in Gilmore Girls
You're right, that makes sense. Yeah the article was about 2019 tuition and it was about $47.5k tuition, and with room and board just shy of $70k. I went to a private college in Boston (2016) and it was about those prices. I don't think it gets much more expensive if it's Ivy League, I think it's more state vs private. -
All Episodes Talk: Lorelai and Rory and the People They Love
marineg replied to solotrek's topic in Gilmore Girls
I was reading an article about Harvard tuition and in the 80s, it was about 10k, and it is now almost 50k (not including room and board). From what I read, private school was about the same price, with an increase from kindergarten to middle school to high school. So yeah 25k would make sense. Basically, Richard gave 75k to Lorelai, Rory and she talked about all the things they would do with the money like buying a boat, "no more picking loose change up from the ground," "no more driving around looking for cheap gas" and the best of the best, "we've got the rest of Grandpa's money, that's plenty to buy the Dragonfly Inn." In what world would 75k be enough for 3 years of private school plus buying a frickin' inn in Connecticut and be "plenty"? -
But was she really a failure though? I mean in the real world, yes. But in GG? I don't think so. She was portrayed as smart, pretty, witty, popular, lovable, etc. She was loved by a whole town, had 3 serious boyfriends before finishing college, was valedictorian in high school, got accepted into the best US universities, graduated from Yale, was the editor of an Ivy League newspaper, participate in panels and school and town activities, (almost) always had good grades, (supposed) to have grown up poor and overcome her challenges(.... sure....), graduated college on time even though she missed a semester, got a job right out of college following an electoral campaign, etc. Obviously, there are a lot of things that happen between these events and she displays personality traits that leave me to believe this girl would not have succeeded half as much in the real world, as she did in the show. But even then, ASP made sure that everything Rory attempted/wanted, she succeeded at, even when it fell on her lap. [I'm not including the revival here...]
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All Episodes Talk: Lorelai and Rory and the People They Love
marineg replied to solotrek's topic in Gilmore Girls
Right you are. However, as much as $50k seems too high for 2003 (although it is appropriate for 2020...) $5k seems too low. Private schools have more or less the same tuition as private colleges. So maybe $25,000 and she met "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five" behind that 2. -
If only good sense was a theme of the show...
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I like the idea, but I can't really see it, it feels too dramatic for ASP and Gilmore Girls. The tone of the show is much lighter, and although I definitely think that Rory is capable of it, ASP has too high an opinion of Rory to make her a bad mom. Plus, they couldn't do a show without Rory, and watching Rory being praised left and right at her book tour would be boring. She gets enough praise for not doing anything praise-worthy from her family.
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All Episodes Talk: Lorelai and Rory and the People They Love
marineg replied to solotrek's topic in Gilmore Girls
Not to mention the fact that even though 75k was a large sum of money, it wouldn't cover 3 years of Chilton, and much less have anything left over. We can guess Chilton was about $50,000 based on the first episode "Wow, that is a lot of zeros behind that five." I'm guessing it wasn't $5,000 or she wouldn't be shocked and need a loan. -
I'm not one to defend ASP and her choices, but lilies are extremely fragrant if you don't take out the stamen. Usually when you buy a bouquet of lilies, the florist will remove the stamen of the ones that are open, and you have to remove the others as they open. Lilies are very fragrant. In my family, lilies and peonies are amongst out top 5 flowers so we always have them at home when they are in season, and lilies can take over the whole house with their smell. Peonies do smell, but it is much softer and pleasant than lilies. I wouldn't leave a bouquet of lilies on the table when eating dinner, but peonies you can. They are often used at weddings.
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Honestly, I think everyone hopes the kid will be Logan's and he will take care of it, but in my mind they totally set up Logan to become Christopher and Jess to become Luke. Rory raises the kid on her own because Logan is still abroad most of the time. Maybe he stays with Odette*, maybe he doesn't. But Jess shows up, and little by little, he becomes a father figure to the kid. I actually like Logan before the revival so this is not coming from a hatred for him. I just think that if they were to do a new season, they would kind of "reboot" the story with Rory, but with early childhood, basically all we missed for Rory. *worst French name btw, and I should know, I'm French. Literally never met an Odette. And if I did, she would be over 90yo.