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57 minutes ago, iMonrey said:
What do we make of this? Varner turned out to be off his rocker the last I heard. I certainly hope the "entire" cast isn't backing Dan. I think it's more likely the reunion show is getting pre-taped just because the network/producers are afraid of some kind of outburst in the audience.
Varner's opinion is completely immaterial. Moreover, so is that of most of the cast. The only things that matter are the person who made the complaint, Dan, maybe witnesses, and lawyers. Varner goes on and on about Kellee, seemingly unaware that this last incident did not involve her. It sure sounds like it involves workplace sexual harassment, though, which was prime for a lawsuit if TPTB didn't act.
Which is why Varner's rantings can be summarised as "Angry Derp."
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On 12/12/2019 at 1:55 PM, MVFrostsMyPie said:
And, no offense, but if you’re 26ish, why do you still go by Tommy?
He and production may have agreed on Tommy to help differentiate him from Tom.
19 hours ago, Trepis said:The idea that womens bodies are property , we talk about how Dan wouldn't ever have touched the guys; I dont think he ever consciously thought ' I dont want to touch Deans hair' : the thought jsut never enters his mind.
Sorry. According to Tommy, Dean's too busy running his hands through his own hair. No room for anyone else's paws.
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1 hour ago, Nashville said:
IMHO all the nullifier might do is speed up Janet’s departure by one TC.
Could you explain your reasoning on that one? (You usually have solid reasoning. I'm just not following it this time.)
To me, the nullifier means she very well might go out 5th. After that, she might not win immunity or be auto-dragged to the finale, but she still has a chance at the third spot if she can beat someone making fire. We know she can make fire, so that's conceivable to me. I'd say it would come down to who wins the final immunity and what decisions they make.
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5 minutes ago, TVFan1 said:
If Lauren somehow takes Tommy out, I would like to see her win.
I'm having visions of this turning into another Gabon for me. I still feel like they should just have given the money to one of the gorillas that season. I'm pretty sure the jury would have voted that way if they could have.
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4 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:
I’m going to assume he’s not at Ponderosa with everyone. At least I hope not.
Probst said something about Dan getting on the boat to leave.
That was a bummer for me. I was hoping they'd taken him behind a production hut somewhere and uhhh… actually, I don't think I can post the rest of that thought without violating the TOS. But apparently I have too many old farmers in my family.
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2 hours ago, RyjackAunt said:
Or, since some people apparently can't be bothered to read unless you post it here in small enough font for them to read the whole thing, I'm gonna do that. From the above link:
QuoteWhy Survivor Contestant Dan Spilo Was 'Removed' from the Game and What the 'Off-Camera' Incident Was
The alleged incident happened when Spilo was getting on a transport boat after an immunity challenge
By Steve Helling
December 12, 2019 12:24 AM
At the end of Wednesday night’s episode of Survivor: Island of the Idols, it was revealed that contestant Dan Spilo was removed from the game as a result of an undisclosed “incident.”
The explanation that appeared on screen was nebulous: “Dan was removed from the game after a report of another incident, which happened off-camera and did not involve a player.”
PEOPLE has spoken to multiple people involved with the show’s production, who confirmed that the incident in question — which involved a member of the show’s production team — happened after an immunity challenge as Spilo and other contestants were getting into a boat to transport them back to the camp.
At one point, Spilo allegedly touched the female crew member’s leg. According to multiple sources, he insisted that the contact was inadvertent and accidental as he lost his balance while trying to get into the boat. At least one of the remaining contestants witnessed the incident.
But the show’s production team wasn’t convinced that the contact was merely incidental. After consulting with the show’s legal team, producers eventually decided to remove him from the show.
Kim was voted out of the game — and Spilo apologized, saying, “I work in an industry in which the #MeToo movement was formed and allowed — thank God — to blossom and become powerful and strong,” he said. “My personal feeling is if anyone ever felt for a second uncomfortable about anything I’ve ever done, I’m horrified about that and I’m terribly sorry.”
In an interview with Entertainment Weekly published after Wednesday’s episode, Probst was asked to elaborate on the nature of the incident. He declined to give more details.
“The question is a fair and reasonable one,” Probst responded. “I’ve endeavored to be as forthcoming as possible with you regarding everything that has happened this season. In this situation, out of respect for privacy and confidentiality, I can’t say anymore.”
Neither CBS nor Spilo are providing additional comment at this time.
One other thing I saw as a comment elsewhere that made me think... Cast members sign all sorts of waivers about how if something bad happens to them, they won't sue. The crew doesn't sign those. So a crew member complaining may be a LOT scarier to TPTB than a cast member.
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4 minutes ago, JudyObscure said:
We've been watching this whole thing take over the season and now they're just going to leave us hanging? Why are they giving Dan "privacy," when this is a candid reality show and if he did things that are embarrassing to him he shouldn't have been doing them in the first place. Why protect this guy?
I'm wondering if what he did was of a voyeuristic nature rather than groping. It's just hard to picture him getting close enough to a producer to grope her.
It might not be for Dan. Given his edit, I highly doubt it is. It could be for the crew member or for legal reasons, which I expect would get real thorny real fast.
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5 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:Ladies, instead of worrying who is closest to the 4th grade teacher and who he is going to take to Final 4/Final why not vote his ass out and all go together? These women are Redemption Island level clueless.
I know Dan and Dean are/were goats, but they should have been smart enough to vote him out too. You can't just blame the women here. Elaine went for who she thought she had a chance in hell of swaying and for a target she thought she might pull off, which is exactly what she should have done.
I found Tommy's description of Dean hysterical. Something about him mostly just sitting around quiet and smiling and running his hand through his hair. Except he was talking about how he had been seeing Dean as a goat and he'd been underestimating Dean. um, no. My mother (the former elementary teacher)'s response to Tommy saying that was, "I have no idea how he handles a class of 4th graders if he's that dumb."
Sad to see Elaine go, though they might as well have had a plane skywriting "Elaine is Going!" as subtle as that TC was.
Really glad Dan is gone. Really angry it took this long and everyone else's game was so heavily affected by that handsy bastard.
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Here's a link to a Variety article that talks about mental health screening and care in the reality tv world:
It includes a bit that says:
QuoteClinical psychologist Steven Stein has developed a series of scientifically validated assessments used to pre-screen during casting on dozens of North American reality series over the years, including “Survivor,” “The Apprentice,” “Big Brother Canada” and “Scare Tactics.”
“We usually tailor the tests to the show in terms of what they’re looking for. Some shows like ‘Big Brother’ rely a lot on social and interpersonal skills. Other shows sometimes require stamina and managing stress, and so we focus on those areas,” he says, noting the system is now mostly automated to keep up with the speed of production.
But, he adds, “The first and most important thing we always do is a mental-health screening because we want to make sure that it’s safe. That the person is not going to be self-injurious or aggressive. That there are no real addiction problems. No sort of borderline personalities.”
(Added emphasis was mine.) From what we've been shown, Noura would not be ruled out by the above.
IMO, yes, there is screening, but keep in mind that the final decisions lie with humans trying to sell a product that requires drama to be successful in many cases. That may affect judgment. see: Brandon Hantz
I feel like I've wandered offtopic a bit. Sorry about that. I'll hush up on the topic once I say that the best recent article (but long) I've read on the subject of mental health care in reality tv focuses mostly on Love Island but does an excellent job of talking about all sorts of stressors and factors involved. It was in The Ringer:
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2019/7/8/20682978/love-island-reality-tv-mental-health
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On 12/6/2019 at 9:19 AM, Bryce Lynch said:
And some of those high-ranking NBA players were teammates of Dean in HS.
I can only imagine how much sneaker licking Dean did toward Kyrie Irving in high school in a vain attempt to get them to accept him as a "cool kid".
I thought you were joking, but I checked. You aren't. Dean and Kyrie Irving both went to St. Patrick's High School in Elizabethtown, NJ.
So I talked about Noura, @Ms Blue Jay reacted with a reference to Kyrie Irving, and @Bryce Lynch mentions Kyrie and Dean being teammates. That was a strange rabbit hole we found. 😂😂
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3 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:
Well here is the thing, I am not on any meds other than OTC allergy pills, but are there medications out there that if taken on an empty stomach could have caused her to go BSC ? Not sure if this even sounds plausible now that I am re-reading it but she was kinda a little bonkers from the start, but to me seems like it got worse as time and lack of food went on
Noura isn't batshit crazy. She's quirky. She possibly has some attention deficit issues. She's probably annoying as hell to live with. But as someone who used to be a public librarian, she doesn't even register on my radar as having serious mental health issues based on what we've been shown.
Some people are just strange or talk a lot or both. I mean, there are people out there who firmly believe the Earth is flat or that humans coexisted with dinosaurs. They will talk you to death about it. They aren't mentally ill. (I'm sure there are mentally ill people with those beliefs, but believing one thing that is scientifically incorrect is not a sign of mental illness.) They just for some reason have an ardent belief that is frustrating to deal with. Don't get me started on people who want actual photos of dinosaurs, or better yet, God. sigh.
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2 hours ago, iMonrey said:
I'd be interested to know what the story is there because it would explain a lot about Dean and why he ruined a perfectly good plan...
Whatever trauma he went through in school obviously played a part in that. I'll refrain from any further speculation but you can probably guess where I'd be going with this.
Yeah. Dean's high school "trauma" was that he chose to go to a school known for basketball and had to practice, and he cried regularly because he couldn't have a regular teenage life of parties like he saw on TV shows like The OC. Even though it was his choice and no one who isn't rich as hell and spoiled with questionable parenting actually has a life like that. Poor guy.
I'm not kidding, either. From https://parade.com/922157/mikebloom/survivor-season-39-dean-kowalski/:
QuoteWhen you’re at your lowest low, what’s one memory you’ll pull from to boost your spirits?
When it comes to hard work, I come back to my sophomore or junior year of high school. This is right when I decided to leave all my childhood friends behind to go to this school just to play basketball. I was the smallest kids on the whole team, always fighting for playing time. I made varsity my junior year, probably seventh or eighth man without much playing time. We’d still have to work out in the morning, running around a park in the New Jersey winter where it wasn’t light until 8:00 AM. We’d go from that into school, put on our uniforms, go to school, and then practice afterward. We didn’t see the sun all day.There I was, in this mist of puberty and development. I was watching Laguna Beach and The O.C. at the time. As corny as it was, all I thought was, “I want to be a normal high school student. I want to ask some beautiful girl to prom and hang out at house parties.” Here I was running in the middle of the winter in pitch black, getting ready for a basketball team I didn’t really play on. Those were dark days. I came home crying to my mom, and she was like, “Do you want to transfer?” But I made it through, and I don’t regret it. It made me a better person.
I may have finally found a reason I regret quitting those violin lessons I hated in elementary school. Surely Dean needs me to play for him now... *eyeroll* (Somehow the trombone I took up instead just isn't the same...)
edit: To be fair, I'm being overly harsh here. It's not really unusual that a teenager was emotional (thanks, hormones) or wanted a different life portrayed by the media. He's probably to be commended for sticking it out... but honestly, acting like it was soooo hard annoys me. If he was really traumatized, then they should have removed him from the school (and also had him stop watching certain shows).
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1 hour ago, EllenB said:
I was ready to forgive Karishma so many things for her "Airing of the grievances" Festivus reference. It was perfect, and hilarious. I wanted more of that drily funny Karishma!
I enjoyed both that and her noting that Dean and his mother had matching ensembles. I didn't take the latter to be mean. More whimsical and amused.
Dean is either a moron with poor strategy (my guess) or he's given up on winning and is now just trying for F3. He absolutely should have kept his mouth shut tonight and taken out Tommy. I'm not sure if he didn't because of his laughable belief that Tommy is his meatshield or he just likes Tommy too much and had qualms. Either way it was a bad decision if he wants to win. If they'd taken out Tommy, Lauren is still a much bigger target than him.
Then again, these people voted out Karishma, who was actually fairly methodical and predictable and made an excellent goat. She may drive you crazy for 39 days, but is it $1M worth of crazy?
And Tommy intoning "Teaching Time with Tommy" during TC just made me gag and yell at the TV, "So arrogant!" I mean, really, what did Tommy teach in that TC? There was plenty to be learned, but it was mostly of the "Don't trust Dean" and "Noura is still a froot loop" varieties. Tommy didn't really teach those. They were kind of demonstration speeches.
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5 hours ago, Steph Sometimes said:
I don't know if I'm in the minority, but there's something about Tommy that I just don't like.
Can a woman please please please win this season? I don't like Dan, Tommy or Dean much so at this point I'm really not picky. But I'm guessing at least one guy, and possibly two, will be the final three.
Tommy has annoyed the bejesus out of me since Day One. I'm not sure why because compared to some of the others he's pretty inoffensive, but I just have a very negative reaction to him.
At this point I would prefer any of the remaining women over any of the remaining men as the winner. I expect to be disappointed because I almost always am.
5 hours ago, GenerationX said:Karishma (whose name must be Hindi for annoying, goat, or annoying goat).
I actually looked up what Karishma meant because I was curious if it meant something like "everlasting" that would be particularly funny. It actually means "miracle."
3 hours ago, Kaiju Ballet said:And what was THAT with the magically appearing art supplies (it's not a pencil....)
Those were the paints, etc. that they were given to create the new tribe flag when they merged.
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This whole Jack and Jamal discussion makes me think of an essay by Roxane Gay (called "Peculiar Benefits") that has certainly had an effect on how I think of privilege:
https://therumpus.net/2012/05/peculiar-benefits/
It's a bit long, this is probably somewhat off-topic for the episode, but I feel like it addresses some of the points that have come up about privilege. (The end few paragraphs are, imo, what she is working towards and fleshing out, so if you're only going to read 3-4 paragraphs, start at the end rather than the beginning to get the points.)
And completely unrelated, Dean appears to be very, um, "plastic markety guy" at times. Like I can tell he's in sales. That said, so far he doesn't appear to be heinous in personality and shallow me admits she's noticed his abs. That said, in a choice between Dean's Abs or Elaine (or Kellee or Elizabeth or Janet or bizarrely entertaining Noura), he loses me.
Huh. I just typed that and realized that so far none of the men has really interested me except Tom, who's now gone. I assume that's editing 's fault.
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13 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:
Then he lectured Jack about how "privileged" he was because he was straight, male and white and rambled on about "pillars of identity". (Race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, etc.).
One other thing I've kept in mind is that we saw what appeared to be quite a lengthy conversation distilled down to a few soundbytes by the Editing Monkeys for whatever purpose (Be Inspirational! or whatever) they had in mind. God knows what all both Jack and Jamal had to say. Both appeared to really enjoy the conversation and appear both moved and somewhat intellectually invigorated by it, so as far as I'm concerned, sounds like it went ok.
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9 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:They must think Jason is a bigger social and strategic threat, while Feely Dan would be an easier boot later on.
That's my guess. I think they want to keep Tommy for his physicality and that they didn't see Lauren and Dan as being as big of threats as Jason.
Also, thanks for stealing Feely Dan for us! I've been calling him Handsy Dan-sy, but Feely Dan is way better.
I laughed out loud at Jason's "Don't trust Aaron!" Yeah. Think they figured that one out, buddy.
Re: Jack, Jamal, and durags: I kind of believe that since everyone lives different lives and those lives contain different experiences, each person may understand, interpret, or view things a bit differently. That doesn't make them wrong. I've heard it referred to as personal truths. And in that sense, it is possible for there to be multiple truths.
I mention this because I imagine in Jamal's experience, durags are associated with the things he talked about. For me, my life experience didn't give me any association between race and durag, though possibly some socioeconomic class associations. Since Jack made the durag comment to Jamal and immediately realized his misstep, I would guess he had some of the same associations Jamal had.
So I would say it isn't that Jamal is intent on being a victim. He's simply had different life experiences, and because his were different then mine (or some other viewers), it can be easy to see what he's saying as "wrong" because it doesn't match what I've lived. But it's true for him.
Hoping that made sense...
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8 minutes ago, preeya said:
What happens when the 2nd person from either team goes there and realizes the first person lied. There is no way they can keep this going much longer.
For the second person there, the first person already created the lie to follow. Person 2 can call out Person 1, but that chances putting a big target on them, too.
Besides, giving an entire tribe advance knowledge by telling the truth seems inadvisable if you can avoid it. Not to mention people start getting weird and paranoid and jealous if you make something sound cool, which other players may consider meeting BR and Sandra.
Also, I'm not finding it unbelievable that Elizabeth and Kellee came up with basically the same lie. Both based their lies off Ghost Island. When watching Elizabeth learning to start fire, part of my brain considered what she could tell her tribe, and that was one of the first things I thought of. There could have been some production nudging, sure, but I don't necessarily jump to that conclusion.
6 hours ago, nlkm9 said:when she said "WE have been enjoying you" Not I, I hated her. snob. dont speak for anyone but yourself.
Clearly, Molly was royalty.
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2 hours ago, blackwing said:
After he returned, I thought Chris played amazingly well. He had three big moves: 1) getting Rick to trust him and want to go to final four with him with the half idol, 2) bamboozling Lauren into playing her idol for him, and 3) sacrificing his immunity so he could make fire and eliminate his ally Rick. In any other season, these moves alone would likely be considered to be masterful.
I’m going to be honest. I’m less impressed with Chris’s “masterful” moves. The only one I think took much brains or doing on his part MIGHT be the first, but I question how willing Rick was to screw him over a second time after Rick screwed him over once and then immediately followed him to EoE (and talked big about learning from it).
Despite Chris’s claim of using a sales technique on Lauren to get her to play her idol for him, I think it’s more likely that she, like everyone else except Victoria, was overly focused on Devens. So when Devens played his idol, she thought “I need Chris to beat Devens so he doesn’t get immunity” and played her idol to ensure that Chris stayed.
As to sacrificing his own immunity to take on Rick, this is something I’ve considered before. Since the implementation of firemaking to settle the third spot, if you won the last immunity contest, that honestly would be the only way you could eliminate someone you needed to get rid of. All or nothing. Also keep in mind that Chris was the third vote out and then acted as provider on EoE. I’m pretty sure he got a lot of fire-making practice leading up to his return to the active game.
None of this means that Chris didn’t play well once he got back. Hell, given the general level of people shooting themselves or others in the foot this season, sure. Those last few days counted as positively brilliant in comparison, sadly. But it’s not really like they *should* have, which is what irks the bejesus out of me.
So congrats to Chris on winning this flaming trash heap of a season. Not his fault production screwed the pooch, but so unsatisfying for me.
And, of course, @Nashville had the post above that 100% summarized why the concept was so flawed.
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13 hours ago, iMonrey said:
I guess what I meant was that it wasn't clear to me that Julia's eviction was a done deal. The entire group that was intending to vote out David apparently were so certain of the numbers they abandoned trying to stick to their plan or put together a new one. Meanwhile what I saw on my TV was a clusterfuck of chaos. I didn't understand the outcome because nothing I saw made it clear where the vote was going. It was just a lot of craziness that left me scratching my head.
Actually, I think the plan was to vote out Kelley until Julie threw a wrench in that by getting hysterical about not trusting people who had left her out the week before but who claimed they were working with her this week. Which caused Kelley to ask Julia if they were still good... so Julia had to confirm that yeah, of course they were. And that got noticed, of course, and it just went on from there.
But essentially I’m fairly certain that going in to the tribal, Julia, Gavin, Victoria, Ron, and Julie were supposed to vote Kelley. Kelley, Lauren, and Wardog were going with the “vote David” plan they had agreed on earlier with Gavin/Julia/Victoria (before that trio switched to voting Kelley). David was also the last plan Aurora had been told. I have no idea who David and Rick were planning to vote for.
So that all went to hell when Julie jumped ship and Rick pushed the idea of the 5 Lesu and Ron and Julie voting together. And in the ensuing chaos, Kelley told David he’d been the target. So without Julie, they lacked the votes to send Kelley home and she was suspicious. And voting out David just became a LOT harder because a) they would have had to communicate to each other to switch back to David, b) they would have needed Wardog, Kelley, and Lauren, and Julia had been insulting to Wardog and pretty much caught playing both sides, and c) David was already alerted. Trying to choose someone else to be the consensus pick would be tricky... unless that consensus pick was Julia, whose name was brought up earlier in the episode by Julie and who had just spent TC pissing people off.
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2 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:
Peachy’s explanation of weeping mom Julia versus Tough Aurora is fine but it hasn’t been established on the show yet. If that’s what they were going for then they didn’t do a good job editing. Frankly when aurora made that comment about soccer moms I had no idea what she was talking about.
I don’t think you need to have everything established and explained on the show (yikes, the length!). Pretty much the important thing here is that Julie fell apart (and threw a massive tantrum, imo) after being left out of one vote. Aurora got left out of several votes and kept it together. Julie acted disgusted with Aurora for continuing to compete and negotiate during the challenge when Lauren fainted. Aurora looked stone-faced or slightly annoyed as Julie sobbed at this TC about how hard it was to be left out. Imo, the show was serving them up as foils.
They might at some later point on the show get around to WHY Julie and Aurora are such different people, but they don’t have to. It’s certainly *interesting* to know those bits about their backgrounds as it makes their behaviors make a lot of sense. But we don’t actually need to know it.
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I think Gavin and Ron actually drove the decision to vote for Julia. It’s clearly just a guess, but Gavin seemed ticked to have his big resume item of being personally responsible for removing David from the game taken away. Yeah, I’m eyerolling here. And Ron was still bitter about being betrayed last tribal, but he seemed more willing to talk to Gavin and forgive him and work with him than with Julia.
So while I definitely think Julia’s snippiness got her in trouble at TC, I think Gavin did the math, realized that 7 was greater than 5, and decided to join the 7 and throw Julia under the bus as an act of solidarity and also because she switched the plan. And Victoria went with the numbers, too, of course. Which... honestly, was probably a smart move by Gavin.
Also, Julia might have been fine if either Julie or Aurora had not gone batshiz. One falling apart or being arrogant and talking too much might have been ok. Both of them, though? She panicked and started trying to take control and shut people up, and that made things much worse.
I took Julia’s giggling differently than others did, I guess. I see some saw it as arrogance. Since I was sitting at home kind of half-laughing in disbelief that Julie was threatening the plan by having a meltdown, I thought that Julia was giggling in that nervous “Omg, is this really happening?” kind of way. (When Aurora started talking, I went to full laughter.) I also noticed that Julia does that hands-massaging-face thing I sometimes do when something has blown up and I’m sort of in a laughing-but-not-really-amused state of *bleep* My Life realization.
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I'm going to get backlash for this, but I found Christian and Emily's segment slightly creepy to watch. I realize that Emily probably is very shy and knowing that there were cameras on her probably didn't help, but the resulting way that Christian then handled it by introducing her to his "new friend Jeff" like she was a preschooler was hard to watch.
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35 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:
Maybe it’s too much Thanksgiving grog, but I’m puzzled by the Angelina votes. As a vote split, it’s pointless. It would not have protected Christian at all. I can only guess that the Davids told them they were voting for Angelina because they didn’t trust them and therefore didn’t want to reveal the real plan. A test, maybe, but maybe just a way to distract the Goliaths and keep them off balance. So when Kara and Alec thought they were jumping onto the David train, the train had already left the station and was barreling straight towards Dan.
The original agreement between Alison, Alec, and Kara (referred to as AKA from now on) and the Davids was to split the vote. Dan was the target, but they were afraid (Well, AKA knew) he had an idol, so in case he played it they needed a secondary target. Of the 6 Goliaths, the secondary target couldn't be AKA or Dan, which left only Angelina or Mike.
Five Davids plus AKA = 8 votes. Only Dan, Mike and Angelina are left out of that plan to cast 3 votes against a David. So I assume the original plan was to have 4 people vote Angelina and 4 vote Dan.
And this is why I'm convinced that Alec and Kara did not just stick with the split plan after Alison told them she was going to stay Goliath Strong (aside from the fact that neither seems dumb, and sticking with a plan that someone else who is voting opposite you knows? Is dumb.). Once you remove Alison from the split plan, there are now four votes against a David. Not a sure win, and there's an idol, and Alison knew the plan...
So pretty much I think Alec and Kara felt they had to flip back to Goliath when Alison did. Then when Nick stole Alison's vote, it was pretty much a reprimand and threat for agreeing and backing out--twice. (Why Alison? She'd let the Davids down twice and she didn't have immunity so they could make her good and nervous that they were voting her.) And that's when AKA decided to pretend they'd planned to stick to the split vote agreement by having Alec and Kara vote the way they presumably would have: for Angelina.
Anyways. That's how my brain chose to make sense of what the editing monkeys showed us. :)
Although... is Alison one L or two?
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S39: Dan Spilo
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I wouldn't assume the witness automatically jumped to "Dan was groping" instead of "Sure, I saw it. His hand was there, but he said he lost his balance. I believe Dan."
blargh.