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1 hour ago, tracyscott76 said:
The menu of items they can buy with fire tokens includes advantages in challenges.
In addition to all the reasons you listed, I assumed that for the EoE people, that meant they could buy advantages in the challenge that will determine who goes back into the game from EoE.
That certainly seems like something worth their time.
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4 hours ago, bamlouie said:That's how I read the Ethan vote too. Based on Jeremy and Michelle's beach conversation, they still wanted to break up the trio but didn't want to give Adam the credit/satisfaction of orchestrating the Parvati vote especially after he blabbed to Rob, so Parvati was off the table. That left either Ethan or Rob.
Yes. Exactly. This was my read on the situation:
The four who voted Ethan did so because they wanted to vote out one of the three Old Skoolers to further weaken that alliance. They specifically did NOT vote Parvati to send a very clear message to Adam about playing both sides, instead letting him vote all by himself. As to why Ethan and not Rob? I don't think this has anything to do with people being awed by Rob or afraid of him. I think it has everything to do with Jeremy being very aware that if Rob is voted out, he is probably seen as the biggest physical threat on the tribe and also a highly strategic one. I think Jeremy wants more time to build relationships before his meat shield is removed.
2 hours ago, BK1978 said:I wonder if more people link it to the Lex thing. I do not personally, but I can see how people view him as a backstabber from what he did to Lex.
Uh, Rob kind of is a backstabber. It's not the Lex thing. I feel like that was more stupidity on Lex's part. It's all the other times he smiled and set something up and then shivved them later. I mean, Rob would repeatedly have multiple conflicting agreements going at the same time. At one point in All Stars, he realized that he had made an agreement with everyone in the game. He distinctly promised Alicia he'd never write her name down at one point when he was panicking and thought Amber was voted out, but out she went. And I'm pretty sure Grant from RI feels like he was backstabbed.
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3 hours ago, RescueMom said:
For some reason, I thought if someone used it they would leave right before the vote - so they wouldn't lose out on much information. But I have seen several references to losing out on TC info so I must be mistaken.
That's because when Jeremy read it, it specified that he would leave before the vote. I don't know why anyone would use it much before Jeff called for an actual vote, so no, they shouldn't miss much of TC. I also don't recall anything about being able to play it on another player. That's why it's called Safety Without Power instead of something else.
The Aussie version sounds a bit different and I don't think people should be assuming they are the same.
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1 hour ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:
...I'm still trying to remember Sophie. I'm now starting to think I did watch her season, because her wonky teeth are starting to seem familiar, but I don't remember anything about her as a player, or who she played against.
Sophie also looked different since she was just 22 then:
ETA: I have no idea why that is so ridiculously large. Yikes.
Anyways, she went on and attended and graduated from medical school, so officially she is an MD.
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5 hours ago, marys1000 said:
I was shocked by Sandra but also really entertained. Didn't she hide someones shoes in the jungle? LOL
Nope. The only thing she actually did was toss the fish Rupert caught after he was voted out. Rupert stole shoes from the other tribe, but they were the impractical ones people were wearing at the very start (and some were mismatched, having had their mate lost at sea), not the gym shoes they'd been given. (It was also a pirate theme, and his tribe bartered them for goods before heading out. Smartest thing he did in his many appearances.)
13 hours ago, BK1978 said:Well I will happily join you in that minority. What annoyed me with Sandra the most during her first season was when she thought she was the next to go she began sabotaging the camp.
She talked about her plans to, but when things changed so she had hope, she didn't.
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On 2/14/2020 at 12:09 PM, DEL901 said:
Cochran is also a CBS employee now (writer on one of their shows) so probably cannot participate.
Speaking of Cochran reminded me that in one of the pre-game articles about Yul, they mentioned that he was a mentor to Cochran before Cochran went out to play.
Sophie was the winner of Cochran's first season.
That gives us a Sophie-Yul connection before they got out there.
(Yes, I know Sophie had a crap social game her season, but did you SEE that season? Like everyone had a crap social game in some way. It was appalling. I think once they escaped the island, people liked each other better/ acted more human.)
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😂😂😂 I picked Kim too.
No pressure, Kim.
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Happy Valentine's Day, guys. 😊
And if that's not your cup of tea, happy birthday to Yul. Maybe you can celebrate that.
(source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yul_Kwon)
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4 hours ago, amazingracefan said:
She definitely got help in that vital immunity (maybe from more than one player) and it's unlikely she would have won it otherwise. But individual immunities are really meant to be won by individuals. The only other example I can think of was the Australian version where I think someone - was it Janine? - got someone to come over and swat a fly off them during some immunity challenge. The Sophie immunity win needed even more help though.
No, she did not. For God's sake, you can look this up on Wikipedia.
With Sophie, Coach, Albert, Rick, and Ozzy left, the immunity challenge was one where each contestant had to hold a rope that steadied a board with one hand. With the other hand they had to build a tower with wooden blocks. First to get the tower to a certain height won. Sophie was ahead, but some of her blocks fell. She yelled for Albert to stop what he was doing and come help her by picking up her dropped bricks. Jeff said no, so it didn't happen. Ozzy ended up winning. Rick was voted out that TC.
The next immunity challenge, which was the last one, was a "race through obstacles, get 5 puzzle bags, open the bags, complete the puzzle" challenge. Ozzy completed the obstacles and got his bags first, but Sophie caught up to him and passed him doing the puzzle and completed it first, thus winning immunity. And no, she had no help from anyone.
ETA: Oops. @KaveDweller beat me to it. Sorry.
5 hours ago, KaveDweller said:I don't think it's possible to prove when producers made the decision, unless someone hacks into CBS's emails or something. I am not suggesting anyone do that, I'm just saying we'll never know.
I'm not really a conspiracy theorist. I think they decided before the season rather than specifically for Ben. That said, it still sucked specifically for that season because it was a surprise twist. You had ALWAYS been able to vote someone out at Final Four. Now you couldn't. Also, it now means that there is no TC where someone cannot play an HII but they can get voted out. That's gone. Before they had to either win immunity or convince at least one person to vote with them. Now they can skip those if they have faith in their fire-making.
I mean, should Chrissy et al have tried harder to prevent Ben from finding HIIs? Of course. But in every other season from something like 13 (?) up until that one, they would have been able to vote him out at Final Four as long as someone else won immunity.
I've realized that I don't *necessarily* mind TPTB adding unexpected twists, but I do think the twist needs to either be announced at the beginning or come in the first half of the game so that people can at least try to adapt. This stuff that affects the last few TCs is bull crap, imo.
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13 minutes ago, fishcakes said:
Do we know if EoE is running the same as last time and that only one person will come back? I assumed it is and answered based on that, thinking that the return won't happen until late in the season.
Two people came back last time: Rick (Devins) the first time and Chris (Underwood) the second time.
That said, I figure they'll make this last a good long time. Maybe our answer can be used for multiple EoE returns, if those occur? One answer, points if that person returns either time. Hey, maybe double points if the same person returns both times! 😳😂
Have I ever mentioned that I really dislike EoE?
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Not sure if I should post this here or in Survivor in the Media thread. If it belongs there, will you please re-home it for me, @Whimsy?
The EW recap was titled "What you DIDN'T see in the Survivor: Winners at War season premiere" and apparently Dalton wasn't kidding.
https://ew.com/recap/survivor-season-40-premiere/
Things I selected as being most notable:
QuoteWhat you saw on TV was Dakal winning pretty easily 3-1. But there was plenty more to this competition that you did not see. First off, the wind and swells were crazy!...
Because of those swells, I’m not sure the Sele tribe ever had a chance, as the current kept pushing, if you were facing the water, from left to right. Probst even alluded to this at one point, mentioning a big swell that carried the competitors over towards the Dakal side. That happened constantly. Think of it this way: If you were treading water by yourself out there, the current would have naturally moved you to the right, so Sele had to battle against both that and the other team.
He goes on to give much more detail about that.
Stuff I think people will care about from the first TC that wasn't shown that Dalton mentions (there are other things, too):
Quote• The contestants walked in at 7:54 p.m., voting was at 8:51, and then they walked out at 9:15, making total Tribal length 1 hour and 21 minutes.
• In the episode, you saw Jeremy and Ben whispering, but there was a LOT more than that. In fact, it was chaos. After those two whispered, then Natalie and Michele started. Then they whispered to Rob. Then Rob and Jeremy started in. Then Rob got up and went over to talk to Ethan. Then it was Michele getting up to chat with Parvati. Meanwhile, Jeremy talked to Ethan, then Adam, then Denise. Then it was Ethan whispering to Parvati, Ben whispering to Ethan, and Ethan and Rob chatting again. Everyone was pretty much everywhere, except for Adam, who never left his seat. He was pretty much alone for a lot of this, never moving as everyone else went around, but then Ethan and Rob finally went over to him. Then it was Parvati and Rob with one last whisper before everything calmed back down. Very surprised none of this made the episode, but with so many “Live Tribals” happening lately, maybe cutting it was for the best.
• Right before voting, Natalie asked Adam if he had a plan. “I’ll tell you in secret,” he told Natalie. “Not in the open.” And then Natalie, clearly sensing danger, made an open plea to the tribe: “All I can say is this: I’ll say it out loud. I hope the people who talked to each other stick to the plan. I’m sticking to the plan and I hope everyone else does too.” Jeff then asked if anyone else wanted to make a public statement, to which Natalie replied, “Guys, we do not want to come back here, so let’s stick to the plan.” They did, just not her plan.
Things not shown during second TC:
Quote• The second Tribal started at 7:45 p.m., with voting starting at 8:45, and ended at 9:07 for a total running time of 1 hour and 22 minutes.
• There was a bit more talk about Tony’s… shall we say, exuberance? Wendell also said Tony went into speed mode on day 3, and Amber told him, “You were creating a target on yourself by the way you were acting.” To which Sarah replied, “Today was a wake-up call” for those who aren’t used to the new pace of the game. Tony got very upset that Amber called him out and then Sandra said Amber was not used to the pace and can’t keep up with Tony. (Yes, Sandra defending Tony. My how times have changed.) This subject concluded with Amber saying of Tony, “The way he operates just makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.”
• Kim said she was reeling, and the first 3 days were harder than anything she encountered on One World. Considering the level of competition on One World, that’s probably not surprising. She also called her appearance at the poker tournament “the biggest mistake of my life.”
• Edge of Extinction became a major topic of discussion at Tribal. It started when Yul called out Chris Underwood’s win as very controversial and polarizing. Sandra then weighed in on EOE, going on about how someone should be out when they were out, and now because of the twist, she had to be nice to people instead of mean. Jeff then polled the tribe, asking who among them liked Edge as another chance to get back in the game. Sarah, Amber, and Nick raised their hands. The other 7 did not. Jeff then asked Sarah and Amber what they liked about it.
Sorry this was so long, but some of that seemed interesting to me. Like there WAS whispering at the first TC. A lot.
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3 hours ago, Fretful said:
So, even on season of returning winners, a woman of color is the first person voted out. Never change, Survivor.
Which honestly might not have happened if:
1. the group had been able to decide between Adam and Denise
2. Jeremy and Natalie weren't both seen as very good players strategically and physically with a pre-existing, very tight bond
So, yeah. If the group won't decide, you take out one of the tightly bonded pair. Since this is still the team-oriented phase and strength gets prioritized, they probably opted to vote out the woman rather than the man. (I'm not claiming this is in any way strategically or morally smart or correct, just that this is probably the reasoning.)
4 hours ago, 30 Helens said:I’m disappointed Amber is gone so quickly.
But she's not. She's on EoE, where she's actually of use to Rob.
Seriously, I hated EoE the first time around. I thought it was stupid to break the game by not getting rid of people who were voted out and potentially let them hang with and maybe influence jury members.
But now it's back and worse than before! Not only is the above still true, but they get to screw with the game still going on! That's right! In a season of previous players where so much ALREADY is affected by pre-existing relationships, you mean to tell me TPTB put in a dynamic to make those relationships even more important?
Sorry for the rant. I'm finding the structure frustrating.
I'll be interested to see how much of this season has to do with gameplay and how much is reliant on pre-formed social bonds.
Also, I am never telling Ben anything important.
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Actually, in reading Yul's EW interview, this is one of the things that jumped out at me:
QuoteYeah, that was interesting. So, for my season, Cook Islands, it was stacked in terms of talent. We had Ozzy Lusth. We had Parvati Shallow. We had John Penner. And we had Candice Woodcock. All four of those people have been invited back multiple times...
And so whenever someone else came on, I thought it was great to see them play. In some cases, I think people really evolved their game. Like Parvati. I knew she was strong the first time, but I think she really learned from experiences and became a really strong competitor, both on the social and strategy and athletic side. Ozzy, not so much. The guy has one way of playing, and he plays it very well. But it’s not a winning strategy.
source: https://ew.com/tv/2020/01/20/survivor-yul-kwon-winners-at-war-interview/
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Natalie, Jeremy, Sophie, and Nick.
I really wanted to go with Yul and Denise because I love them so much, but felt like I'd curse them. Yes, I know that's impossible and illogical. Don't argue with me.
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On 2/5/2020 at 3:27 PM, treeofdreams said:
Is it possible to win Survivor without a social game? Has anyone ever done it?
I think my question here would be "How much of a social game counts as a social game?"
In S1, Hatch was not exactly beloved by his fellow castaways. And in S5 (Thailand) by Day 39 Brian Heidik had pissed off enough people that he only won 4-3 over Clay, the guy pretty much everyone else thought was lazy, possibly racist, misogynist, and an all-around jerk.
Speaking of Thailand, I just finished slogging through it. Man, was that season slow. Thank God for Helen's sense of humor and things that were unintentionally hilarious or I never would have made it.
Like the first few 10 seconds shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL5XPdfug74
which shows Robb voting for Shii Ann and giving his reason. We howled.
Honestly, Robb looked like a PITA to live with, but he was the Angelina of his season.
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This amused me:
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2 hours ago, SVNBob said:
There's going to be a special retrospective episode that airs the week before the premiere. From what I've read, it's going to cover highlights from the entire history of Survivor.
While you might not be able to catch up, this ought to be of some help to you.
You would think, but not so much from what I've seen on it. The list of things I saw that they're going to cover in that retrospective made me decide I'd be doing something else then. Anything else, honestly.
QuoteIn its press release announcing the special, CBS highlighted seven things that will be included:
“Parvati discusses her strategy behind the game-changing move of playing two idols in Heroes vs. Villains, and the psychology behind the historic Black Widow alliance that convinced Erik to give up his immunity necklace during Fans vs. Favorites.”
“Rob and Amber relive falling in love during All Stars and Rob’s marriage proposal at the live finale in Madison Square Garden.”
“Ben talks about his infamous upside-down U and winning the first final four fire-making challenge in Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers.”
“Jeremy remembers the anxiety that came with trying to find the first idol hidden within an immunity challenge during Second Chance.”
“The emotional Tribal Council when Ciera Eastin was forced to vote out her mom, Laura Morett in Blood vs. Water.”
The historic Tribal Council in Game Changers when fan-favorite Cirie Fields was voted out of the game despite not receiving a single vote.
“Plus, life-changing moments with Christian Hubicki (David vs. Goliath), Donathan Hurley (Ghost Island), David Wright (Millennials vs. Gen X), and Cirie Fields (Panama), who all overcame personal obstacles when faced with tough situations on the island.”
It also mentioned five players that will talk about their biggest moves and favorite moments. Those were BRob, Amber, Jeremy, Parvati, and Ben.
Le sigh.
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5 hours ago, Lantern7 said:
Wasn’t that Earl’s deal? He was called in last minute AND he had never watched the show.
ETA: I meant that was Earl’s deal as well.
This has happened quite a bit. Well, not the not watching the show bit. But at least three winners have been replacements and some more players who made the jury.
Off the top of my head, along with Earl and Davie:
Tina Wesson (S2, Australia) was a last minute replacement.
Bob Crowley (S17, Gabon) was originally an alternate who made the cast when Jimmy Johnson failed his medical exam. (Jimmy finally appeared on Nicaraugua, S21.)
For S34 Game Changers, Sierra Dawn Thomas (previously seen on S39, Worlds Apart) was a last-minute replacement for Natalie Anderson (S29, San Juan del Sur) after Anderson sustained a concussion and had to pull out.
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I've never been able to like Tyson. I often find things he says to be really funny, but starting back in Tocantins I just had a negative reaction to the way he talked about a couple of the other cast members in his talking heads. (Sierra was one. I don't remember details, I just remember that I got a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach over a few things he said about her. Then again, I got that quite a bit in Tocantins from various players... Not my fave season.)
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10 hours ago, RescueMom said:
Super unpopular opinion, but I like Adam. (I also think he would have won his season whether he talked about his mom or not.) He isn't my favorite player this season and I don't think he's going to win, but I'm fine with him being in the mix.
It would be boring if we all liked the same players! I figure the second and third of Ranganathan's Five Laws of Libraries apply here if you change the word "book" to "player" and uh, pretend they aren't about libraries:
Second Law: Every person his or her book
The second law of library science "every person his or her book" means that librarians serve a wide collection of patrons, acquire literature to fit a vast collection of needs, and do not judge what specific patrons choose to read. Everyone has different tastes and differences and librarians should respect that.
Third Law: Every book its reader
The third law of library science, "every book its reader", means all libraries' books have a place in the library even if a smaller demographic might choose to read it.
I'm actually kind of looking forward to seeing him play for a second time to see how his game evolves.
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Ryan Ulrich is one of his inspirations.
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6 hours ago, LanceM said:
Yes. I'm also unsure if I got the urge to punch him upon seeing his picture because he was smirking or what. I mean, I thought he was whiny and kind of won MvsGx because his mom had cancer and Hannah got panic attacks (no one wants to lose to the nerd girl with panic attacks), but I never hated the guy. Blink.
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I like the new jury format. I hated having to sit through some of the dumb questions or comments from jurors, especially the whole "Pick a number between..." thing. Nine (or seven or whatever) people asking questions took a lot longer to show, too, than the current edited discussion.
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7 hours ago, fishcakes said:
The bit about Scot and Jason is pure nonsense though. Why he's giving those two meatheads credit for anything is beyond me.
Maybe I read it differently than you, but he pretty much insinuated Scot and Jason were bitter as hell (and tbh, I'd agree with him. It's not like they were horribly complimentary to Michele, either.) Apparently after watching them on the jury, he came up with the new format idea; he hoped changing from jurors each getting their own chance to ask a question or comment to a format where the jury as a whole discusses the finalists' performance in the three broad areas (outwit outplay outlast) would help moderate or disperse some of the bitterness.
So he's not really giving them credit for anything but being jagoffs.
I don't know that it worked, but I can see the logic. In the original format, if a juror is bitter, they just sit there and stew until they get up and spew their venom. They don't necessarily listen to much that's said, being focused on what they're going to say.
In the new format, theoretically a juror has to listen and comprehend other arguments to find a place to insert their own point of view, and other jurors can push back a bit if they disagree. While I don't know that this did anything for the truly bitter, I could see it having an effect on those only slightly bitter.
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S40.E03: Out for Blood
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I did want to say that I followed along just fine. I knew Ethan was a possibility heading into TC, though I couldn't predict which way Jeremy, Michele, et al had decided. When the votes came up, I could immediately tell you who voted for who.
I don't mean that as a criticism if others didn't follow. Keep reading.
It's really easy to think you watched the episode closely and not recall that one time that someone interrupted or coughed or you spilled a drink or whatever and *thought* you still got whatever was going on, but it turns out you missed some stuff. I mean, I somehow missed that Denise had the whole idol again. I only know that from you guys. 👍 And once you miss something, there's so much they're trying to cram into an hour (or 40 minutes and 5000 commercials) that it may never be repeated. Unless it's the fact that Sarah is a cop.
I think it's a difficult balance because I find it boring when it is obvious who is going. That's a big reason to me why Pagonging can be boring.
So if you didn't follow, I'm gonna blame your cat. Even if you don't have one. Clearly it distracted you... Bad Puff!