Yours Truly

See this is what I see too. A man that has gone along with his wife cause it's something she wanted to do and isn't too keen on putting on a show at personal costs. I don't get why that's such a bad thing. This whole, well it's a reality show bub, you HAVE TO perform for us attitude really turns me off to these shows. This started off as a guilty pleasure of mine and was just some mindless fun wathcing women put there foot in their mouths all while showing me pretty things like homes, pools, jewelery, fashion and trips. Some of the conflict is relatable but mostly it's just a little bit of catty fun that I can laugh about in the comfort of my own home. Now a days the demand that the cast just deal with it without complaint and show up with every deep dark embarrassing detail of their lives without complain is a total drag. And its funny too, cause while the huzzzzbands aren't actually welcome on our screens they somehow still have to behave and go along with all the nasty bullshit. Now granted, nothings worse than a thirsty inappropriate husband like Seth or attention whore like Joe Gorga but when a husband has a legitimate gripe because they've been a target or because the disrespect gets out of control I'm not mad at it. I don't think attributing Todds sour mood during filming is some huge red flags about their marriage. I think it's just what it is. Frustration from being in a situation thats ridiculous and trying to navigate these interactions because let's be honest people. The normal reaction to all these nasty little dust ups that happen would be a whole lot more intense and charged if it were to happen during a regular group dinner and no cameras. How many of us would simply throw someone out of their homes for going to far, screaming at guests, call names and having tantrums. But since they aren't allowed to truly shut shit down in that manner we are left with the seething undertone as well as the cameras to catch it all. Regular scenario, I calmly tell my guest to leave because they are being disrespectful and disruptive to the group. Housewives world you have to be diplomatic and patientbecause removing the problem or the cameras is not really an option so your stuck. Yeah so I'll cut Todd some slack. Especially since his biggest "sin" is showing his disapproval for the terrible behavior oh and wanting to shut down personal conversation at the table that has no business being group discussion. I commend cast members for being stubborn about what will and will not be a part of the show's itinerary. People say that being on a show requires you to share everything and I've never agreed with that. Even in personal relationships there are things that you don't even tell friends and you sure as hell wouldn't share with co workers so this whole idea that a personal situation is SUPPOSED to be a part of the show annoys the crap outta me. Some stuff needs to be private in order to GET THROUGH it so Bravo can miss me with the idea that their lives should be a complete open book. That part always drives me crazy. I don't mind private shit being kept private. I'm not that desperate to be that much in anyone's biz to that degree. Especially if it's going to be detrimental to them (aka Kim Richards). I'll survive, I'll be okay, if I don't get to revel in your life's disrepair. I personally, don't really want to be privy to watching a whole cast tear someone's life apart. Ya'll can keep that off my screen. Thank you very much.

Unpopular opinion but I don't dislike Todd. We've seen him for only minutes and in circumstances that would make anyone grumpy. I'll never understand the leaps and bounds that happen when analyzing these cast of characters. I don't personally care for the age difference in their marriage cause I think it can cause issues but ehhhh, if they like it I love it. I'm not going to go fishing for any little thing that "confirms" that marriage is either a sham, doomed, a business arrangement or whatever. These people are grown and know exactly what they are doing and made whatever agreements they made when they exchanged rings. I could care less what the true dynamic is surrounding someone else's marriage. Just give me the light hearted drama, "scandal" and petty cattiness and leave the heavy, unnecessary, personally hurtful storylines for Jerry Springer. In this day and age, I'm not interested in treating any arrangement between a couple as anything but a MUTUAL agreement regardless of what that may be. I'll roll my eyes, shake my head all day long but I sure as hell ain't gonna be particularly offended by it or try to make it out to be something troubling or dangerous. Browynn is in no real danger so clutching pearls about her interactions with her husband is a real snooze. People accept a lot in relationships. It's really not that big a deal. Totally not interested in the direction the ladies may be taking it but of course they will over dramatize everything and pretend Browynn needs intervention. All for the sake of bringing Browynn down and not really cause anyone is worried. Ugghh, so predictable.

Ehhhh, Not drinking AT ALL doesn't change anything and it would be sorta corny to me to see her avoiding alcohol in casual situations cause all it does is fuel the other side which is "oh, so NOW we are being mindful about alcohol?" or "yeah, sure, you're not drinking anymore, right". It's a lose, lose so I say fuck it. Her avoiding alcohol "on TV" is just lame. I personally think it's a silly requirement to have of her (unless of course the courts decide it is a requirement). Everyone's alcohol journey is for them and them alone to navigate. The idea that an angry mob of fans tsk, tsking someone will change that always intrigues me. I think I'll leave my disapproval with the drinking and driving part because THAT's what's illegal. I'm not gonna treat any drink she has as a crime because quite frankly it isn't and it's ridiculous to treat it as one. At least to me anyway.

Not for nothing but I think Bronwynn is DYING to have her daughter's issues with the grandparents front and center as a storyline. As MUCH as i'm loving Bronwynn this is the one area that I'm soured by. As hurtful and sad as her past is with her daughters grandparents, it's not all that uncommon. And let's face it, Bronwynn WASN'T a child when she popped up on strangers doorsteps EXPECTING unconditional support and kindness. Girl you just showed up with news that were going to change these people's lives forever. I get that their son was also involved but that doesn't negate the heaviness of the situation. The idea that only a pregnant women's feelings should matter in these situations always astounds me. There are OTHER lives affected by a decision to bring a baby into the world. At LEAST acknowledge that part and people usually don't. This whole first and foremost we must coddle the "mom to be" no matter what is fantasy and fairytale. I'm not saying I don't feel for Bronwynn but at the end of the day she had sole agency over her body and what she did with it so she wasn't an innocent bystander in all this. Maybe pay closer attention to the family you decide to reproduce with. Yeah, yeah, she was young and again I feel for her in that respect but the decades long pity party isn't something I'm on board with . As young as she was she made her choices how she made her choices. Thinking you're going to force yourself into a family cause you just so happen to be pregnant is a silly gamble to make. Instant acceptance really isn't a thing everywhere and with all families so making an assumption like she did, caused her years and years of heartache. I'm just saying, this blanket sympathy for Bronwynn is just not my style. Women can pick and chose HOW they are in relationships and a young mistake is just that a young mistake. A mistake that had it's consequences. Ce sera, sera.. (When I say mistake I mean choosing a man that couldn't own up to his responsibilities. I'm not speaking of her choice to keep her child). I think it's shitty to bring this on the show. For her daughters sake and yes even for the grandparents sake. There seems to be a lot of hostility and resentment coming from Bronwynns side of things (including Gwen) and I understand that it's valid however, bringing this onto a reality tv show, bringing this very somber topic onto a show where there is no respect given, care or consideration is pretty ironic and hypocritical to me. You want me to shed tears over the lack of contact from the grandparents and try to sell me that they are terrible people all the while dragging this story out into the public that involves their dead son who died at a pretty young age..... I just can't there is just so much wrong here. I'm with Todd when he says "We are not talking about this now". Bronwynn was sputtering and seemed a bit caught off guard but there was still something in her tone that made me feel like she was still trying to talk about it while "defending Lisa". It doesn't sit right with me that she wants this on the show. There's a part of me that believes Bronwynn wants to do this to get back at the grandparents and I'm never okay with this level of petty spitefulness. Especially when it comes to family dynamics, tragedy, death and children. This whole stunt with bringing it up on the show is just a bit too nasty for my taste and if, at this big age, you are living your life with payback still being a strong factor in your life then I'm not so sure you deserve my sympathy. I still have hope that Bronwynn does not take this storyline much further and if she does she does it with the grace that has so far won me over. I'm not writing her off yet when it comes to this topic cause I think she's is capable of rationalizing and being fair. What's i'm speaking on is the underlying resentment that's she's not able to hide and has every right to feel I'm just not interested in seeing her act on it in a hateful way. But I do have faith that she can handle in a way that respects the situation as a whole and that will be the best for all involved.

Exactly! And I find her very refreshing. The only thing is that coming on a show like this and thinking that you will be able to outsmart the running recipe of mayhem and chaos usually bites them in the butt. I am absolutely rooting for Bronwyn and thinks she's got a good shot at being the first to actually succeed being that she seems to be able to keep a cool head for the most part while she's in the middle of these ridiculous "moments" the others are completely desensitized to. Heathers awkward distain and haughty distress over the idea that a person would handle a housewife conflict with such straightforward maturity was very fascinating to watch. She was practically sputtering in disbelief at the novel concept of actually talking things out and resolving a conflict in such manner. You could practically read it all over Heathers face that she resented the idea that they smooth things over before the trip and thus denying her the opportunity to have their inappropriately timed outburst moment during the trip. The funny thing is (and this goes back to the idea that any housewife can sidestep these imposed "real" moments on the show) is that there still was the tacky and inappropriate moment because LISA brought it to the episode by facetiming Heather. They really DO NOT allow for any semblance of smooth sailing when it comes to these trips. It is not allowed and Bronwynn found out the hard way. You can totally see that Bronwynn fancies herself capable of out witting the machine and she most likely promised, promised, promised Todd that she would be clever enough to avoid the typical circus of embarrassing outbursts and arguments over the course of filming. There was something in Todds tone that leads me to believe that he hesitantly agreed to her appearing on the show with the condition that she had better make sure things don't spill over and interfere with real life functions and routines and most of all his peace.

Exactly, not interested in the fake clutching of pearls. Look, I don't enjoy jumping into anything as serious as someone's guilt or innocence regarding whatever if I am not privy to some real solid information. Not saying that there isn't enough "out there" to sway public opinion but I do try to hold myself in higher regard than to just run with the court of public opinion on any given topic. I'm in no rush to Crucify NOR Vindicate the Grand Dame of Potomac. What I want to be is informed when coming to any sort of stance on matters like these. Call me crazy. Guilty or innocent I truly dislike all the buzz and messiness DURING the process. The runaway train gets childish and sometimes tend to go way off the rails. It becomes cartoonish once the peanut gallery sinks their teeth into it and I think something as serious as this deserves more maturity in its handling which is NOT going to happen with this vapid motely crew of Potomac. Uggghhh!

I'm honestly not interested in the fake approach. Karen can't speak on it. At the end of the day what COULD Karen do to make others happy? I've never enjoyed watching people made to jump through hoops and pressing for what "should be said" as if I am personally owed an apology. I'm not the type to hold someone's feet to the fire when stuff is still in the air. This is a very unpopular opinion but maybe Karen wasn't drunk. Who knows? I get it, it sounds ridiculous but why? Not everyone pulled over for suspected inebriation is actually over the limit. Look, I get it. The likelihood that she was drinking is probably significant but I'm the type that can't go balls to the wall with accusations unless I have more than the typical overkill because of the celebrity of it all and yes even housewives are celebrities whether we like it or not. Anyhoo, it's such a distasteful topic, one that can't actually be managed in any sort of respectable way and THAT is why it's bothersome for me, personally, to watch. All it is, is a tool for the other housewives to berate, degrade and take down a cast member and when serious topics like these are just turned into a storyline and snarky material for the show I'm left with a bad taste in my mouth. I am totally uninterested in someone's PR speech of regret or vow to do better. You made a mistake, I'm not feeling your life choices and that's as far as I'll take it and it really doesn't matter what insincere approach anyone makes so the need for such public overtures always makes me roll my eyes. She's either going to be given the benefit of the doubt or crucified for her actions. Whateve... We are gonna feel how we are gonna feel. I don't need any apology tours or fake tears and regret. I'll wait for more on the matter, or not, cause in all honesty, it is what it is and hopefully she will do better... Or not. Either way it's up to her (and maybe the courts). Que cera cera.

Okay so hear me out. It wasn't lost on me that the GNA event was scheduled at the same time as the event Karen was a part of.... hmmmmmm. In Gizelle's talking head she herself confirms that she knew about the event and saw/received an invitation months before and while the talking head was geared to shade Karen and CLAIM that her name wasn't on the list I couldn't help but notice that Gizelle just admitted to knowing about the function WELL in advance and yet chose that SAME day and round about time to have HER event????? Me thinks Karen's name was in deed on the list originally (I mean, come on, we only have Gizelle's word that it wasn't) and it influenced the date for the GNA fundraising event. Otherwise that's some coincidence right there, wouldn't you think? Just sayin'. That's my not so far fetched theory.

This! I get that it's all kinds of wrong to drink and drive but I think it's extra to clutch the pearls if Karen still has a drink. I looked it up and depending on the courts and what is decided Karen is still free and clear to drink. Drinking and driving doesn't automatically scream alcoholic. What it screams is irresponsible and reckless. People tend to confuse these things under these circumstances. Sad to say that non alcoholic drink and drive ALL THE time. I won't say most but I will say that a lot of people will have a beer or three and still drive home. Or a few glasses of wine or champagne. It's wrong and should not be normalized but at the same time........ don't kill the messenger. Anyhoo, my point is that Karen's issue is that she was reckless and irresponsible and knowingly did something illegal that could have caused harm or death to herself or others but it doesn't mean she can't have a glass of wine (unless the courts determine that course of action as a part of their ruling ala Countess.)

Agreed! It's funny because "I don't like her fashion, decor or style" seems to be driving force for the dislike. I mean it's not what I would choose but I'm hardly offended to the point of disliking her. Attention getting and being a try hard in the fashion, home decor area is a whole lot better that being a try hard that wants to grab attention by throwing people under the bus or making accusations that have real world repercusions. Pretty much what these shows require of their cast. I know its early and there's still time for Brownwyn to earn her keep with whatever but for now her over the top taste doesn't equate to dislike for me. However, I do find that equation interesting.

It certainly took up enough space. LOL! I get annoyed with the two housewives from Dubai and New York (who are cousins I believe) but once I got over the fact that they are PURPOSELY over the top and know EXACTLY what they are doing, I just enjoy the display. Is it obnoxious? Absolutely, but being a fashionista myself (AND cringing at so much of it <cough> Sutton <cough>) I can still bring myself back to the part where it's supposed to be fun. I can't be mad at that.. IFFFFFFFF that's what you're mainly going for. Now I do sour at the overly pretentious. Now, I say OVERLY because lets face it, one does not purchase a Saint Laurent garment just for personal appeal. The clout and pretention is sewn into the purchase price but so long as it's not a blunt tool used to beat the peons over the head with on the regular I can dig it.

I mean, unnecessarily calling someone's outfit a costume rates lower on my list than someone who is quirky in their fashion choices. And let's be honest, high fashion has some real scary pieces in ALL collections. Couture has a looooooonggggg lived history of outer space clothing so I mean like Brownwyn said, you can love it or you can hate it but you can't deny it has a respected place in fashion whether or not it seems crazy for some. I personally can't stand the atrociousness that come down the "High Fashion" runways but I'm not the one that makes the rules. LOL. Pretending something isn't what it is just cause we find it ludicrous doesn't change the fact that she is in possession of a rare coat made by one of the top designers. The part that I'm cool with is that she KNOWS its over the top and she KNOWS it's not just a lot but it is also falls on the side eye of most people's esthetics and yet she's elated with her choices and that's what fashion is supposed to do. Now don't get me wrong there is still plenty of time for Brownwyn to sour in my eyes but so far so good. She also won some points with me with the way she tried to calmly diffuse the ridiculousness that is Angie at the table. I'll take her crazy looking outfits over Angie's ridiculously rude "pick me" presence any day.

Okay so so far I like new Bronwyn. At first I was like oh girl, no you are doing TOO much but then in her talking head, when she described her style as fun, chaos... or something like that I was like oh, okay... I mean can't knock her for what makes her happy and then she really won me over when she mentioned that she was currently dressed like a Tim Burton character and yet it makes her feel fabulous. Look, she knows it's not everyone's cup of tea but the authenticity and self awareness works for me. And last but not least, I thought her going into detail regarding the heart coat would be a little cringe and braggy but miss Britt said let's discuss the coat and all Bronwyn did was give us the designer and background I wasn't mad at her and what actually made me like her even more was when she said "You can love or you can hate it but NOT costume." Very mindful very demure... ;-) LOL oh that and when she said Brit and these words, we need to get her a thesaurus and she wasn't wrong cause Brit was just completely putting her foot in her mouth. Well that, and obviously trying to have her own "housewives moment" in order to be relevant and of course Mary is going to be the ONE to start with cause we all know Mary offends easily. So I gave that whole interaction a side eye.

No doubt but purposely misunderstanding or rewording Louie's comments is pretty lame and isn't actual proof or actual facts. But it is what it is.

There's no use. It' doesn't matter how many times this is shown, explained and proved. Somehow someway the quote from Louie is "I hired a private detective to investigate the cast". That wasn't what happened and yet. Here we are. All the links in the world will not change the "quote" that never was. SMH. Meanwhile we have NOTHING besides a possibly spoofed phone number as proof that Louie "threatened" Margarets son. Lord take the wheel.