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S5.E15: Smile, You're Being Recorded
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
I said it in a previous post. As much as I like Browynn the whole thing about her daughters grandparents read a bit manipulative to me and I believe she wanted it to be a part of her storyline. I'm happy to see that it looks like there's been a shift away from that but boy oh boy there were really setting it up to be front and center this season. I don't know if maybe it was Todd that shut that down but by the looks of it I'm inclined to believe that's exactly what happened. With all that said, what I'm seeing is an absolutely made for TV reality character. I'm hoping she stays out those type of deep waters (it looks like she did some damage control and was able to stay out of the dog house with Todd regarding her claim) and just stick to giving the other wives a run for their money. Aside from the whole infidelity sympathy grab/distraction she been pretty fun with the way she's handled the ho wives drama so far. -
S5.E15: Smile, You're Being Recorded
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Well so far I think she's better than a lot of them across the franchises. Oh and that whole tearful bit about the husband was to guilt the women and play to what they respond to. DRAMA! Granted I'm not sure if that particular move doesn't bite her in the ass but I guess we will see. She's very tactical. I'm here for it especially if she can kept it from spiraling into typical housewives hysterics. It's her first season so even the clever ones tend to morph into a cast "character" eventually I just hope it's not some ridiculous jump from what we see now to some extreme housewife cliche'. -
S5.E15: Smile, You're Being Recorded
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
I dunno, I still like Bronwyn's come clean attitude. I find it absolutely hysterical and to be honest I feel like she doesn't really take herself or the cast or the show for that matter too seriously but not in a snobby Carol Radzwill way (uggghhh). I feel like she's having fun with it and the women because they really do run around full of themselves and their ridiculous slights that THEY ARE ALL guilty of. Browyn's brand of messy is the most honest if you ask me. She doesn't let the narrative spin too far from the intention and if that means she has to refer to conversations had amongst them at different times then so be it. I like her diplomatic yet messy role. She not saying she won't have a little harmless fun playing in the dirt but she ain't about to be the only one with mud on her and I respect her for that. LOL. I also think that she brings a bit of lightness to the gossip and the snarkiness by being real about it. Now granted, it is obvious that her having conversations and trying to be neutral or "playful" during is a tactic to somewhat keep her hands clean but at the same time of course she's going to participate. That's why she's on the show, duh. Her stance is that the women need to take chill pills about the "severity" of it all when in all honesty that's what they are there to do and it's silly for them to pull out the whole "heart palipitations" and damaging accusations towards one another when they all pull the mean girl card when it suits them. I think her point is that it's crazy for them to be so high and mighty and above reproach when they all take their turns playing in the mud. And she enjoys shining that light on them and so do I. LOL -
S5.E11 Troop Salt Lake City
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Wow the knowledge that comes with being a part of the palm pilot innovation didn’t just fall out of his head after the palm pilot became outdated obviously, he has a skill set and an innovative mind to keep him relevant through the times she doesn’t have to list every other project he’s been a part of up until today to verify that obviously he has some pretty impressive technology chops and if he still making money, I’m not surprised because anyone in step with being be a part of the pilot is probably someone who could continue being innovative throughout the years, so I’m sure he’s not just sitting around , playing with his abacus reminiscing about his hay day 🙄🙄🙄 -
S5.E12: Mazel, Meredith
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
I mean, these are very different and weird circumstances. I think I would be hyper aware of any and every thing that may end up on camera. I think it's more about his discomfort with the cameras, the SET UPS and the deliberate baiting that has him wanting to "take her hand and steer her clear" of what we all know and understand to be a "housewife moment". I also feel like of all people HE would know how capable Bronwyn is of probably shooting herself in the foot. Bronwynn seems extra sure of herself when it comes to "manuvering" around the housewife chaos and I'm not so sure hubby trusts that Bronwynn has a full grasp of just how big of an animal this show is. He may seem to no "know" what show he's on but I'm seeing some general preemptiveness in his demeanor. Meaning, it doesn't matter if he completely understands what the deal is in any given circumstance, just that he doesn't trust it won't get too out of hand which in turn has him holding his hands out ALL the time ready to steady Bronwynn. I feel like he's so untrusting of every moment filmed that he's constantly on alert for any potential, meltdowns, slipups, misspeaks or harmful blurts and wants to try and avoid them at all costs. Even if it means that he's constantly hall monitoring his wife. LOL. Trouble with that is, you can't deny the show these moments so trying to keep them from happening defeats being on the show to begin with. I continue to believe that Todd wasn't 100% on board with his wife joining the show. -
S5.E12: Mazel, Meredith
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
I'm always perplexed at the disdain shown for anyone trying to rein in an embarrassing housewife scene. I mean I understand it's a reality show but to honestly REQUIRE the participants to lean all the way into the trash behavior like it's freaking written in the contract completely baffles me. I'm not going to be mad if one of the participants gets in over their head or doesn't actually follow the script as we expect them to as if it isn't their right to do so. I mean that just screams "dance monkey dance" to me and I'm not into that level of degradation. As ridiculous as these shows are there is a semblance of actual real life component to it all and I do not find it at all offensive or troublesome when those outside of the main cast make attempts at restraining the mayhem if at all possible. That doesn't make them some sort of abusive brute or controlling spouse. I for one applaud moments when there seems to be an actual consideration for real world repercussions. I'll shut shit down if I feel it's crossing a line or maybe will cross a line that goes outside of the ridiculous reality bubble. It doesn't bother me to see these sort of considerations interfere with the staged filming moments these events are designed to create. I actually enjoy seeing a bit of push back on what a cast member or cast members family will ALLOW when it comes to their own exploitation. I'm here for the lightweight, petty and catty, lowkey "scandals". Plus the actual fun stuff like trips, scenery, fashion and glitz. I'm not here to watch people get led like sheep to the slaughter where once filming stops there's some very real wounds that affect their day to day and overall life. Definitely not interested in watching lives get ruined because of some nonsense that transpires on a reality show. I'm all for Todd chaperoning and being a hall monitor. It's his life too and I'm not mad at it.- 68 replies
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S5.E10: Kiss Kiss, Bangs Bangs
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Well apparently Browynn has decided it is in fact worth the price. And THAT is her being herself. Maybe her daughters grandparents saw something in her that warranted their reaction... Food for thought. -
S5.E10: Kiss Kiss, Bangs Bangs
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Problematic for who though? I'm not interested in hearing the cast latch onto details about her marriage in a way that tries to make it seem scary or dangerous. Again, problematic or not, I doubt Browynn is in need of intervention or is in a dangerous situation and I'd rather not have the women steer it down that path for a storyline. A distasteful arrangement for me may not be for someone else. Honestly, I'm of the camp of play the role you said you were gonna play and keep it pushing. If Browynn is unhappy with her situation then she's got complete agency over her faculties to change it and I'm not gonna be all wide eye about her marriage as if there's something that needs outside interference. Would I choose Browynn's arrangement? Nope but that doesn't mean I don't think Browynn should be in said arrangement. Make your bed, lie in it and get a 4 million dollar necklace for your trouble. Simple. I mean, that's the deal right? So nope, not even the slightest bit interested in Browynn's "obvious" marital pitfalls. That whole marriage has Captain Obvious written all over it so it's not even worth the pearl clutching. -
S5.E10: Kiss Kiss, Bangs Bangs
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
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S5.E10: Kiss Kiss, Bangs Bangs
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
I mean most adults are able to determine whether or not said transaction is worth that price. I'm in the camp that Browynn picked what she wanted out of life and so did Todd. I'm not interested in seeing people pretend. I also don't expect people to always put their best foot forward at all times. Honestly, I don't mind seeing people lose their cool or act out when circumstances are unpleasant. I like seeing the human factor of things. People get salty and behave badly and I for one love normalizing imperfection. I know I've lost my cool on occasion and spoken harshly to people I care about from time to time so I'm not gonna be too pressed about Todd's unapologetic nature. Calling someone out or bluntly addressing someone doesn't always have to have some sort of problematic connotation attached to it. I'm GenX so not every bitter interaction I encounter needs a trip to therapy so there is that. For now, I plan on viewing his attitude through the lens of it being show related animosity. I truly believe that Todd is hella salty about this whole housewives adventure his wife has decided to go on and doesn't plan on hiding it. Good for him.- 84 replies
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S5.E10: Kiss Kiss, Bangs Bangs
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Doesn't mean he can't speak on how it's not something he's happy about. Just because "it's in the contract" doesn't make it something people have to silently tolerate. Me thinks he wasn't too keen on her accepting the gig in the first place. Also, if this is supposed to be reality tv then seeing his genuine disapproval over the nonsense fits right in. Just sayin'- 84 replies
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S5.E9: Revenge is Best Served in Coach
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
See this is what I see too. A man that has gone along with his wife cause it's something she wanted to do and isn't too keen on putting on a show at personal costs. I don't get why that's such a bad thing. This whole, well it's a reality show bub, you HAVE TO perform for us attitude really turns me off to these shows. This started off as a guilty pleasure of mine and was just some mindless fun wathcing women put there foot in their mouths all while showing me pretty things like homes, pools, jewelery, fashion and trips. Some of the conflict is relatable but mostly it's just a little bit of catty fun that I can laugh about in the comfort of my own home. Now a days the demand that the cast just deal with it without complaint and show up with every deep dark embarrassing detail of their lives without complain is a total drag. And its funny too, cause while the huzzzzbands aren't actually welcome on our screens they somehow still have to behave and go along with all the nasty bullshit. Now granted, nothings worse than a thirsty inappropriate husband like Seth or attention whore like Joe Gorga but when a husband has a legitimate gripe because they've been a target or because the disrespect gets out of control I'm not mad at it. I don't think attributing Todds sour mood during filming is some huge red flags about their marriage. I think it's just what it is. Frustration from being in a situation thats ridiculous and trying to navigate these interactions because let's be honest people. The normal reaction to all these nasty little dust ups that happen would be a whole lot more intense and charged if it were to happen during a regular group dinner and no cameras. How many of us would simply throw someone out of their homes for going to far, screaming at guests, call names and having tantrums. But since they aren't allowed to truly shut shit down in that manner we are left with the seething undertone as well as the cameras to catch it all. Regular scenario, I calmly tell my guest to leave because they are being disrespectful and disruptive to the group. Housewives world you have to be diplomatic and patientbecause removing the problem or the cameras is not really an option so your stuck. Yeah so I'll cut Todd some slack. Especially since his biggest "sin" is showing his disapproval for the terrible behavior oh and wanting to shut down personal conversation at the table that has no business being group discussion. I commend cast members for being stubborn about what will and will not be a part of the show's itinerary. People say that being on a show requires you to share everything and I've never agreed with that. Even in personal relationships there are things that you don't even tell friends and you sure as hell wouldn't share with co workers so this whole idea that a personal situation is SUPPOSED to be a part of the show annoys the crap outta me. Some stuff needs to be private in order to GET THROUGH it so Bravo can miss me with the idea that their lives should be a complete open book. That part always drives me crazy. I don't mind private shit being kept private. I'm not that desperate to be that much in anyone's biz to that degree. Especially if it's going to be detrimental to them (aka Kim Richards). I'll survive, I'll be okay, if I don't get to revel in your life's disrepair. I personally, don't really want to be privy to watching a whole cast tear someone's life apart. Ya'll can keep that off my screen. Thank you very much. -
S5.E9: Revenge is Best Served in Coach
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Unpopular opinion but I don't dislike Todd. We've seen him for only minutes and in circumstances that would make anyone grumpy. I'll never understand the leaps and bounds that happen when analyzing these cast of characters. I don't personally care for the age difference in their marriage cause I think it can cause issues but ehhhh, if they like it I love it. I'm not going to go fishing for any little thing that "confirms" that marriage is either a sham, doomed, a business arrangement or whatever. These people are grown and know exactly what they are doing and made whatever agreements they made when they exchanged rings. I could care less what the true dynamic is surrounding someone else's marriage. Just give me the light hearted drama, "scandal" and petty cattiness and leave the heavy, unnecessary, personally hurtful storylines for Jerry Springer. In this day and age, I'm not interested in treating any arrangement between a couple as anything but a MUTUAL agreement regardless of what that may be. I'll roll my eyes, shake my head all day long but I sure as hell ain't gonna be particularly offended by it or try to make it out to be something troubling or dangerous. Browynn is in no real danger so clutching pearls about her interactions with her husband is a real snooze. People accept a lot in relationships. It's really not that big a deal. Totally not interested in the direction the ladies may be taking it but of course they will over dramatize everything and pretend Browynn needs intervention. All for the sake of bringing Browynn down and not really cause anyone is worried. Ugghh, so predictable.- 96 replies
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S9.E1: A Crash Course in Deflection
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Potomac
Ehhhh, Not drinking AT ALL doesn't change anything and it would be sorta corny to me to see her avoiding alcohol in casual situations cause all it does is fuel the other side which is "oh, so NOW we are being mindful about alcohol?" or "yeah, sure, you're not drinking anymore, right". It's a lose, lose so I say fuck it. Her avoiding alcohol "on TV" is just lame. I personally think it's a silly requirement to have of her (unless of course the courts decide it is a requirement). Everyone's alcohol journey is for them and them alone to navigate. The idea that an angry mob of fans tsk, tsking someone will change that always intrigues me. I think I'll leave my disapproval with the drinking and driving part because THAT's what's illegal. I'm not gonna treat any drink she has as a crime because quite frankly it isn't and it's ridiculous to treat it as one. At least to me anyway. -
S5.E9: Revenge is Best Served in Coach
Yours Truly replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Salt Lake City
Not for nothing but I think Bronwynn is DYING to have her daughter's issues with the grandparents front and center as a storyline. As MUCH as i'm loving Bronwynn this is the one area that I'm soured by. As hurtful and sad as her past is with her daughters grandparents, it's not all that uncommon. And let's face it, Bronwynn WASN'T a child when she popped up on strangers doorsteps EXPECTING unconditional support and kindness. Girl you just showed up with news that were going to change these people's lives forever. I get that their son was also involved but that doesn't negate the heaviness of the situation. The idea that only a pregnant women's feelings should matter in these situations always astounds me. There are OTHER lives affected by a decision to bring a baby into the world. At LEAST acknowledge that part and people usually don't. This whole first and foremost we must coddle the "mom to be" no matter what is fantasy and fairytale. I'm not saying I don't feel for Bronwynn but at the end of the day she had sole agency over her body and what she did with it so she wasn't an innocent bystander in all this. Maybe pay closer attention to the family you decide to reproduce with. Yeah, yeah, she was young and again I feel for her in that respect but the decades long pity party isn't something I'm on board with . As young as she was she made her choices how she made her choices. Thinking you're going to force yourself into a family cause you just so happen to be pregnant is a silly gamble to make. Instant acceptance really isn't a thing everywhere and with all families so making an assumption like she did, caused her years and years of heartache. I'm just saying, this blanket sympathy for Bronwynn is just not my style. Women can pick and chose HOW they are in relationships and a young mistake is just that a young mistake. A mistake that had it's consequences. Ce sera, sera.. (When I say mistake I mean choosing a man that couldn't own up to his responsibilities. I'm not speaking of her choice to keep her child). I think it's shitty to bring this on the show. For her daughters sake and yes even for the grandparents sake. There seems to be a lot of hostility and resentment coming from Bronwynns side of things (including Gwen) and I understand that it's valid however, bringing this onto a reality tv show, bringing this very somber topic onto a show where there is no respect given, care or consideration is pretty ironic and hypocritical to me. You want me to shed tears over the lack of contact from the grandparents and try to sell me that they are terrible people all the while dragging this story out into the public that involves their dead son who died at a pretty young age..... I just can't there is just so much wrong here. I'm with Todd when he says "We are not talking about this now". Bronwynn was sputtering and seemed a bit caught off guard but there was still something in her tone that made me feel like she was still trying to talk about it while "defending Lisa". It doesn't sit right with me that she wants this on the show. There's a part of me that believes Bronwynn wants to do this to get back at the grandparents and I'm never okay with this level of petty spitefulness. Especially when it comes to family dynamics, tragedy, death and children. This whole stunt with bringing it up on the show is just a bit too nasty for my taste and if, at this big age, you are living your life with payback still being a strong factor in your life then I'm not so sure you deserve my sympathy. I still have hope that Bronwynn does not take this storyline much further and if she does she does it with the grace that has so far won me over. I'm not writing her off yet when it comes to this topic cause I think she's is capable of rationalizing and being fair. What's i'm speaking on is the underlying resentment that's she's not able to hide and has every right to feel I'm just not interested in seeing her act on it in a hateful way. But I do have faith that she can handle in a way that respects the situation as a whole and that will be the best for all involved.