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Sweet holy Jesus.

I can't decide if I'm "Whaaaaaaaaat" or "Hmmmmmm" about this Eric/Quinn thing. On the one hand, we get to see more of John McCook; on the other hand, we get to see more if John McCook... and I don't know if even I'm up for that.

Hey excuse me why didn't anyone tell me about this earlier??? I realise I've been offline for a while but let's not confuse the issue with facts here. Also the burgundy shirt he was wearing in Tuesday's show was very nice. Happy Thanksgiving, pilgrims! Enjoy your turkey!

Too late! But actually I'm not all that disappointed with what went down in those episodes - as much as I couldn't agree with much that came out of Eric's mouth (especially this constant "Ridge stole Brooke from me!!!" whining that is a) wrong and b) immature), it's how it was said that gave me all the tingles. Boy howdy, did JMC and TK light a match under each other in those scenes! When Eric was giving Ridge the serve about "not quite the Forrester you think you are" and he was all, "Oh yeah! Morality", right in TK's face, I was like "Dayum Johnny spit that venom!" And his voice got all growly and throaty and he was all animated with his hands and I guess this is what people mean when they say they could listen to people read the phone book, 'cuz I could watch JMC as Eric drag Ridge all. day. long. and not be the least bit upset that what Eric was doing was way out of line. And then this scene when he goes from being happy to see Steffy to being absolutely disgusted with Ridge & Co staging the coup, and he says "I don't want to fight any more", and then that "Oh, oh no" thing he does, and he & TK trying to out-yell each other, just bury my rotting corpse already because that stuff slayed me. (Sorry to drag up stuff that happened a month ago, but I'm not remotely interested in what's going on right now. Liam can't make up his mind? Whatever.) To be fair, some places down here don't have indoor plumbing. It'd be the only explanation for Eric just disappearing from the show all of a sudden - how frustrating! We know where Rick went, but where did Eric go to lick his wounds? Did he drown his sorrows in a bottle of whiskey? Did he go to the Club or a bar or back home? And was it to the main house or is he still in the guesthouse? And where in Saddam Hussein's hell is Donna? Ridge made all this noise about disappointing his father and how hurt he would be and all the rest of it, why don't we see that? I know I'm not the only person who would be interested in watching an original, long-term B&B actor go to work on some heavy, "I've just been kicked out of my own company - again" emotional wallowing in self-despair. I don't want Eric to be reduced back to a talk-to character when there are (still) opportunities for him to be a driver of a story, even if it's a b- or c-plot. I'm not ready to give up on him yet!!! You guys know well that I'd rather give myself a hysterectomy than watch Brooke & Eric together again, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice if it means we're not going to collectively suffer through this rubbish with Steffy & Liam any longer. And I hate that my home girl Ivy is being so dumb about this. If she was on an Aussie soap she would have read Liam for filth and dumped his ass as soon as Steffy showed her plastic face. Bitch ain't about no time-share dick.

The most upsetting thing about this Ivy/Liam/Steffy/Wyatt Summer of Suck is that it's broadcasting now that I'm home, and not 2-3 weeks ago while I was honeymooning and missing out on all the (apparently relatively more) exciting Forrester Creations Hostile Takeover episodes. I miss my Johnny ;( (I miss you guys too.) JMC tweeted about Caitlyn Jenner when she debuted on the cover of Vanity Fair and ever since then she's been the only person I can see Eric with. I think I might have completely lost my grip on reality. Wow, RuntheTable. I love me some hoyay and I would do anything to see more of Eric & Bill in the same room but that is quite a powerful mental image right there. WOW. No.

Ya know, I watched Thursday & Friday's episodes (for obvious reasons) and actually really enjoyed them. Although, I did despair that Eric was stuck talking with Brooke over two episodes while the other boys got to go outside and play. Beggars can't be choosers, I suppose. I'd rather impale myself. Impossible. I feel strongly that this needs re-posting:

Bite your tongue!

Goddamn he looks so good right now. The beard and the jacket and the no tie thing is really driving me crazy. ... and that's all I got. "Riding horseback through Mongolia", if you know what I mean. ;) ETA: Um so John McCook just sent me a tweet brb dying

If you're expecting any more than this from Eric, you'll be sorely disappointed and you'll only have yourself to blame. To be honest I only wanted to see the beard - sometimes dreams really do come true!

Good sweet lord Jesus have mercy on me

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH woah woah woah woah, woah, woah... woah. Woah. Hold on a minute. Stop the presses for a second here. Forget this "Maya's really a man" hoo-hah and answer me this: What's with Ridge and Bill drinking beers together?!?!?1 Colour me shocked. Oh God no eww gross no no no don't be using your old man's lube that's nasty.

My money's on murder. But my money's only worth $0.76 USD. Didn't Sheila murder someone before she came to L.A. and hooked herself on the wealthy Eric Forrester the First, and then Lauren came on board and was all about exposing her - all the way back in 1993? Shame on me for expecting something original from Brad Bell. I'm disappointed that Nicole wasn't actually a computer science student; we need a smart girl on this show, not another vapid model. It certainly would have made this secret business a lot more interesting, if it was something Nicole stumbled upon while hacking federal records or whatever. Maybe Maya's secret is that she has a private email address? Whenever I see/hear/think of furries, I think of that episode of CSI. Sigh. I miss Grissom. Google Images has informed me that William Petersen has let himself go, though, so no loss there. On first glance I was like, "When did Stephanie get raped?" From someone who lives in a country where we have to manufacture snow, I can say that the aerials of Aspen are pretty nice. But I'm sure there are nicer places around, like Lauterbrunnen in Switzerland which is one of my all time favourite places in the whole world. I guess the CBS budget doesn't stretch far enough for another European remote just for a Batie honeymoon, so they had to trot out the "we didn't want to be too far away from Will" excuse.

Did you guys hear the news over the weekend that JMC got himself a Twitter account? @JohnMcCookThot. His daughter Molly set it up for him. The "thot" at the end has me confused, though - I thought it stood for "that ho over there"? Maybe it actually means "that handsome old timer". For real. When she took the sheet off the painting of Caroline and was like, "What's going on here?", I wished Ridge had said "None of your goddamn bizniss" I think she said it just to get a rise out of Maya, as in, "Get Rick to install me as a model for FC and I'll keep quiet about your *~*~*secret*~*~*". I didn't get that she was being serious, it looked to me like she was saying it for shits & giggles. Wake me up when something interesting happens.

I always feel like I need to apologise for Eric's rampant stupidity, and then I remember that he is not actually my husband. Oh kia112, you are too sweet. My brain went elsewhere with this and now I need a turpentine bath. Pam lives with Charlie at wherever he lives. When Stephanie passed away she was living in the FM looking after Eric, until he kicked her out so he could grieve properly. I never thought I would witness Eric being a condescending, hypocritical asshole about someone's relationship, but there it is.

Decided to tune back in for today's episode and saw nothing that made me want to keep watching. I can't even be bothered finding CaRidge in bed (apparently this happened?). I'm happy enough finding out what Maya's secret is from the recaps. Hearing her and Nicole talk about the Forrester Mansion as "their place" upsets me. I miss you guys and I miss my Johnny.

Got as far as Eric smirking along with Brooke's toast to Rick's fantabulous parents before turning it off.

I'd rather watch Stephanie knee Eric in the groin on repeat than hear any more of this latest rubbish come out of his mouth. More's the pity. /HoYay

I still need my nappy changed from last week so I was in no mood for more of the same today, although I had to laugh when Eric said "I'd be glad to listen to anyone who has anything to say" because to me it came out like "Idushmusfsfufdsjbddfkjhdssey." Nice line delivery, John. The only other bright spark is the possibility of Ridge versus Eric when up until now it has been Team Eridge - anything that keeps putting JMC & TK in scenes together. Steffy/Liam/Ivzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Though I want to ask, what is Ivy going to do to Steffy if she doesn't let up on Liam? "Get lost or else"? Or else what, Ivy? Sic a dropbear on her? Well thank you, Snaporaz; I will be honest and admit that reading it back now I realise hardly any of it makes any sense (so blind was my rage apparently), but I'm glad someone enjoyed it. :) No worries SweePea59; it wasn't as dramatic as I remembered it though. This one was my next choice - the guy can get pretty animated when he wants to be! Yeah, what's with that? Hopefully something happens with Nicole soon, she was cool. Thanks for putting The Eurythmics in my head, venusnv80. ;)

Today's episode had a lot more gloss and punch to it and only Patrick Mulcahey can polish a turd of this magnitude. Maya vs CarRidge was great fun and all actors were on point with their dialogue delivery and non-verbal acting choices, but that all starts with the words on the paper. Eric being icy directly at CarRidge too was a nice change as well and I liked the way my man Johnny played it coolly, all of his lines cutting like a knife at both Ridge and Caroline, just the way we expect the patriarch to behave in a disapproving situation. Even Scott Clifton was tolerable in Liam's fruitless effort to tell Steffy to kindly fuck off, despite it unraveling just as quickly as it started. Oh, and the manhug between JMC & TK was good too. Can't go wrong with a good manhug. BUT. I still have some HUGE issues with the content. It's all well and good for Eric to feel responsible for Rick being underhanded in his attempts to earn his father's respect and admiration, but it's another thing completely to reward and validate his disrespectful, spiteful, derogatory behaviour towards not only the objects of his ire (Ridge & Caroline) but towards his family and friends (Ivy, Aly, Wyatt, Pam for God's sake) by praising his minimal achievements in increasing profits which have very little to do with anything that Rick does as CEO and almost everything to do with the designs of Ridge & Caroline who, by the way, Eric paired together after it was revealed that the two of them could not be trusted in each other's company. Eric has basically said "Yes, you were reckless and irresponsible and a danger to people's physical and emotional safety in their homes and in their workplaces, but because you turned a profit for the company, all is forgiven", and that is not only completely stupid of anyone in any situation but it is also out of character for Eric who has always put family first before profits. Which is it, Eric? Are you instilling your faith in your namesake because he is a good businessman or because he is your flesh-and-blood son? You cannot have it be both. And what was with this nonsense about "Let's not talk to me about bad behaviour until we examine our own"??? Ridge and Caroline's indiscretions pale in comparison to Rick's complete loss of sense while holding a loaded pistol without even mentioning him being a total asshole to everyone regardless of whether or not they support or decry CarRidge. Their adulterous behaviour was never flaunted in front of Rick, they never showboated their personal chemistry either as lovers or as designers and if I recall correctly they tried to distance their work from the collaboration that produced it, reluctant to acknowledge that Ridge working with another designer was so rare it was almost unheard of (forgetting completely that Ridge & Eric worked on each other's designs back in the day). Yes, they were wrong to indulge their desires while Caroline was married and Ridge was in a committed relationship; yes, Caroline was wrong to hold this information from Rick when he was forthright and honest about Maya coming onto him in the steamroom; yes, it was irresponsible of both Ridge and Caroline to continue the collaboration when they knew they couldn't resist one another and should have said to all concerned that they were going to stop it to avoid further hurt. I am not denying Rick's right to be upset. I am angry that Eric has decided that Ridge & Caroline are purposely hurting Rick by being in a relationship when it was Rick's decision to refuse any attempt at reconciliation and is therefore against their union when he himself has pursued a number of relationships that have been hurtful to others - his relationship with Brooke not only hurt Stephanie but also upset Beth Logan, who made no secret of still holding a torch for him and thought him a decent and self-respecting if not imperfect person, only to find her sweetheart and her daughter romantically involved and expecting a child together. His insistence on marrying confirmed psychopath Sheila Carter drew harsh criticism from all corners, but this what he wanted for his life and no one was going to convince him that he did not know his own lover. We heard no end of wailing and disparaging remarks from Felicia and Thorne when Eric and Donna found themselves together, and Eric responded to this outcry with the equivalent of "Grow Up". "Let's not talk to me about bad behaviour until we examine our own", Eric? Take a good, long look in the mirror and tell me what you see. I'm so mad I could trash my mother's guesthouse. (I'm not yet ready to hand in my Eric Forrester Lonely Hearts Club card, though.) This might. While I'm at it, where in the ever loving fuck did all this shit about Eric's father come from? Father Forrester held little Eric in disdain while envying his eldest boy for being flippant and non-committal? And for what - because Eric wanted to be successful? It's his father's fault that Eric messed with Ridge's love life and started this "tangled" father/son relationship? Eric's indulgence of Ridge was to show loyalty to Stephanie? Did it ever cross Eric's dimbulb mind to show loyalty to Stephanie by being loyal to her? I'm so mad I could punch a phone.

I don't know what to say. Hope you feel better soon, KerleyQ! And this is how she gets it. As bad as these actors are, you gotta admire their dedication to their bodies (but not their faces).

I noticed DD & HT forgot which hand the ring goes onto, whoops! I thought the vows were good and very fitting for the two of them, and Bill rushing to kiss Katie was cute, and the speech from Liam & Wyatt on Will's behalf made me cry, but on the whole it was pretty clumsy. I realise a lot of real weddings don't always go to plan either, but there's adorkable and then there's awkward. Brooke's behaviour during the ceremony was just flat out rude, too; if I were Katie I'd be mortified that my sister was making a scene on my behalf. Leave that shit for the reception. On a totally shallow note, I couldn't help but notice Linsey Godfrey hanging onto Thorsten Kaye during Brooke's speech the way she was; something about it just gave me the warm fuzzies. LOL thanks ByTor! Although I think a hot air balloon is more JMC's choice of transport... Umm, duh RuntheTable, everything is about Brooke. ;) You said it, KerleyQ. I was only thinking about it on the bus this morning how anti-climactic the whole gun thing was, made worse by everyone in the show only mentioning Rick shooting at people as an afterthought to all the other asshole things he's done recently. Whodunnits are passé but surely they are more involving as stories than what we got in the end. Or, if we know for sure that Rick shoots Ridge or Caroline or whoever, we could have had the bedside Emmy reel scenes that are also passé and predictable but more interesting than "Rick's gone mad! Oh well." And you can add to this list Brooke's sudden spiral out of decency/exaggerated alcoholism and Batie's associated rush wedding, Maya's sister Nicole's mysterious fly-by, and the Spencer Boys' confusing and convoluted plot to buy a company they have no use for, and it's clear that the thread of the show is starting to unravel when it was only so tight a month or so ago. Bill asked her the same thing. LOL She said she heard about it, I think Brooke walked in before Bill could question her further or tell her to go...Her showing up uninvited was pathetic. I think when Bill asked Aly who invited her, it was in response to the mushy romantic comment she made that "Love will do that to a person", and his asking her was more like "Get a load of this guy!" more than him being an asshole about the guestlist. And Aly's "I read it somewhere" was her saying "I read that love will make a person do X", not that she read about the Batie wedding anywhere. I wondered why Aly was there too, but I figured Liam might've invited her (or Ivy, but +1s don't get +1s...?). But then, where was Oliver? And what about Alison, who was there even though Katie doesn't like her? And apparently beardless. Sigh. I didn't think it was ever mentioned how long he was going to be away for, but someone else here on the board (sorry, forgot who now) asked the same question when he left, so maybe I wasn't paying attention when he said it? I thought we had just assumed it was six months. Don't forget, this is Eric we're talking about.

I only really watched this episode to see Don Diamont and Thorsten Kaye shaking hands and thereby touching each other, but even that was disappointing. What was with Carter pointing out to Justin that "Man, Brooke is very beautiful woman!"??? What a weird exchange, and poorly acted. Brooke vs CarRidge, lawd what a sloshy mess. Also, I think when the zipper was stuck on the dress bag, at first JG & KKL were pretending and then it actually did get stuck, because the giggle KKL did just before she opened it sounded like she was genuinely struggling with it and was about to call cut on the scene, and then the camera ever so slightly zooms in as HT approaches her to do the Big Dramatic Moment. Anyway. Must've been a "Near Enough is Good Enough" filming day. Or she & Bill could've just eloped and done the registery thing later? Bill was happy to move Heaven and Earth to get Brooke to Abu Dhabi, but no such extravagance for the love of his life who has to settle for the living room? It's a nice living room, but the park across the street from the Logan house looks exotic in comparison, and no one who gets married in a living room ceremony officiated by Carter stays that way for long. And what was with Bill's jacket? I'm not in a position to call anyone's choice of wedding attire/decor/whatever tacky, but I didn't like it. I think it's currently and/or previously? Like when you are unmarried you are Miss, when you're married you are Mrs, but when you're divorced you're Ms. Whatever to all that, anyway. I'm having a Matron of Honour and my brother as a Bridesbro, but this is my first (and hopefully only) wedding - should Mr. St3ph & I go around again for whatever reason, we'd probably elope and save everyone the hassle. Me too! I always enjoy it when characters who don't normally interact share scenes. I had to laugh when he asked HT to open the jar of whatever it was (looked like face cream?) and she couldn't get it open - but damn girl for getting through the scene in the first place, having her kid distract her the whole time. I can't hate on her for being able to concentrate like that. Zane is so adorable, especially in his little suit.

Brooke is feeling "a little jetlagged"? Didn't she fly in, like, weeks ago? And Katie believed her? C'mon son. None of this shit is flying with me. Why couldn't Katie smell the vapours off her morning breath, which I assume would have been terrible? And why is Brooke drinking something she doesn't like? Every time she takes a swig KKL grimaces; I'm pretty sure you can get just as shitfaced on mixers as you do with the straight stuff, and it's much more fun. And anyway, I can't feel sorry for a woman who got sloshed on high quality vodka and crashed on her luxuriously plush couch surrounded by equally expensive decor, and then probably had someone make her a top-notch greasy hangover breakfast just like that (::snap::). Oh oh oh! And then she's saying "No I don't want to be your MoH, it's not right, blah blah," and then Katie badgers her into accepting the role, and then everyone's all smiles that she says yes? Christ on a bike. Oh, Don Diamont, lol. Actually, lol to all the Spencer boys today. No more Rick & Maya, please. I'm no longer interested in their assholery. Ivy & Aly should make tracks for elsewhere like yesterday. And then sets everything on fire because he's done with this shit. THE END. I don't know how it works in the States, but Down Under you need two witnesses to your ceremony & signing of the certificate, which is usually the role of the Best Man & Maid of Honour. So I imagine that's what Katie's doing, although why it has to be Brooke of all people is still baffling. I know she said something like "it's part of the healing process" but for real, Brooke ain't got no honour. And her +1 is on the other side of the world. Can her day get any worse??? She said "You just need to step it up a little".

Watching today's episode in low-res, it looked like Steffy's jacket had bird shit all over it. Actually the whole episode had bird shit on it, so, whatever. You're welcome, SweePea59. The first scenes in that video in particular are some of my favourites ever between SF & JMC - a little uncomfortable to sit through, yeah, but it's an interesting and important conversation to have, and those two played it so well. "You have enough energy to feed the homeless but you leave me here starving for affection" is one of my favourite Eric lines. Slightly off-tangent, but you know what would just make my day? I only realised this this morning as I was waking up - what if Eric came back from Europe and he had a beard? Like, something he's been cultivating while he's been away and he reckons he looks pretty good with it, and then he comes back to LA and everyone gives him flak for looking like Father Christmas or something. Anyway. Anything that's not Rick being an asshole to everyone because I'm over that shit. Oh wait! Never mind. ETA: