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All right, 2022, can we please slow down just a notch or three? It's only July 8. Save something for the second half of the year!
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25 minutes ago, DoctorAtomic said:
I paused to read it. He was just a pilot for a small place and built his own plane. So what? I liked the episode, but I would have liked in their argument if Gordon had said, 'what did I do that was so bad?' Because he did say, 'maybe my son is your ancestor to Kelly,' and that the Union clearly still exists, but a more salient question is Gordon's influence on his family goes down through the centuries to where the whole Krill and Kaylon mess is averted.
Or not. As Ed and Kelly both pointed out, there was no way to know exactly how much damage had been done to the timeline or what kind of changes had occurred between 2015 and 2422. Four-hundred seven years is a long time. And Ed was correct in pointing out that Gordon's marriage and family in 2025 were a temporal paradox that shouldn't have existed because it was never supposed to have existed (what with Gordon actually having been born more than 300 years after Laura died).
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1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:
I think a lot of these science fiction laws are being shown as theoretical making sense but incredibly cruel in practice. Was Kelly really supposed to let a child die during the episode where she unintentionally became a God? Now here was Gordon really supposed to spend the next 40 years living as a hermit seeing no one talking to no one? Any law that leaves no room for if ands or buts can be seen as inherently cruel because it leaves no room for the human condition.
Which is why the Prime Directive of Star Trek and the Union equivalent of it here are seen as universally despised draconian laws because they require one to constantly ignore that "human condition." On the other hand, the Enterprise episode "Cogenitor" demonstrates exactly why the Prime Directive exists. The Prime Directive didn't exist in Captain Archer's time, so Tucker set out to liberate what he saw as a member of an enslaved species, the Cogenitors. His motives were pure and understandable from his and our point of view, but as the events of that episode unfolded, his noble act of liberation turned out to be disastrous for that planet's culture and the specific individuals involved because it not only led to the suicide of the "enslaved" Cogenitor, it also destroyed any hope of the couple to whom the Cogenitor belonged to have any children because they needed the Cogenitor to complete the reproductive process.
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3 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:
One place for the writers to take Charly is for Isaac to at some point save her life and for her to develop a grudging respect for him/forgive him. That is what I'd normally expect if the show is given enough time to develop things. Another would be to try to recreate the Kirk/Spock/McCoy dynamic with Ed/Isaac/Charly even though the Trek originals far outdo their Orville counterparts. I even was thinking before the Charly/Amanda relationship reveal that they might be dabbling in the direction of hate sex or adversaries-turned-lovers. I suppose it's still possible that she's bi/pansexual and they do try something in that direction.
And where does that leave Claire, who seems to be starting to have feelings for Isaac again herself?
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I loved this episode. I have always wanted to see a time-travel episode that sent the Orville back to our era, and Seth and crew really delivered.
I liked the call-back to "Lasting Impressions." I remember someone in that episode discussion thread predicting that Gordon would somehow find himself back in 2015 and meet the real Laura and have a relationship with her. This was also a nod to both "The Inner Light" from TNG and "The City on the Edge of Forever" from TOS with Laura as Gordon's Edith Keeler.
And I did NOT have "Charly is an out and proud lesbian who was secretly in love with Amanda" on my bingo card, did you? It explains why she really hates Isaac and will never forgive him. Yes, she's still an annoying bitch whom I would love to slap 400 years into HER future, but at least the passion with which she hates Isaac is coming from an understandable place. It's just too bad that there's really nowhere for her to go in terms of growth.
7 minutes ago, Athena5217 said:When the egg salad sandwich appears in 3 months, will it be a 3-month old sandwich? Because … gross.
Nope. It will still be fresh. Time-travel doesn't age or rejuvenate the people and things that are doing it. That's why the crew didn't go back to a point of non-existence as they traveled back to 2015/2025 or age 400 years during the return trip to 2422.
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53 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:
She could be willing to pursue new romantic interests. Hopefully not Clark, but that's a possibility. They have teased the notion that she is at least somewhat wistful that she went with Kyle instead of waiting for Clark.
That would be the worst possible direction they could go in. Clark and Lois have long been established to be soulmates (or, to borrow a phrase from The Flash, lightning rods for each other). You simply DON'T try to drive one of the Universe's biggest power couples apart, and Lana herself would know better than to try to pursue Clark, especially since she just patched things up with both Clark and Lois, whom she'd be putting in the same position that she herself was in when Kyle cheated on HER if she tried to make moves on Clark. Lana knows what it's like to be cheated on. There's no way she'd put Lois through that (and the fans would be be calling for the showrunner's head on a platter if she did!).
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5 minutes ago, Trini said:
Will it, though?
It did when I watched it!
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1 hour ago, BeautifulFlower said:
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Just watch the episode, and it will make sense.
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1 hour ago, Dani said:
This but I also thought is indicated how far he was stepping out of his comfort zone to do it. Singing for the crew was something he actively resisted and he only agreed to help Topa.
I agree. His tone was too sharp, but I would have just put that down to nerves since, as you pointed out, he's always been shy about drawing any attention to himself or to his talents.
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It depends, too, on the culture. For example, Latin-American culture is well-known for having a much more lax attitude toward time than Anglo-Americans do, so "be there at 8 PM" means in practice "not before 9," so if you arrive at 8 PM on the dot, it's going to be awkward for everyone because nothing and nobody is going to be ready for you. The way to avoid that is to ask upon receiving the invitation, "¿Hora inglesa u hora española?" ("English time or Spanish time?")
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2 hours ago, Dani said:
I had the same thought so I looked it up. If there are visible signs of friction it should show up from this point onward. They filmed half the season before the Covid shutdown and she filmed for divorce (for the second time) during the hiatus.
Same. My problem wasn’t that she was dating Seth but that I could tell she was dating Seth by how her character was treated. You could also tell with Sage but it worked better because it made sense for Alara to be in so many scenes. She had a useful and clearly designated role and an interesting backstory. Charly has none of that. It doesn’t help that every time I see her I feel like she just wondered over from the Pretty Little Liars or Gossip Girl set.
That explains why she's such a Mean Girl!
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53 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:
My favorite comment from reddit wrt this episode
Oh look, Bortus, the garbage is taking itself out!
That line about the garbage taking itself out made me laugh out loud, @Joimiaroxeu! 😆
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10 hours ago, BeautifulFlower said:
I dropped this show last season. I've been observing to see what everyone's opinions are.
How many powers does Cecile have now? I'm hearing she's the most powerful meta now. What?
The Positive Forces amplified her powers and also gave her the ability to take any other meta's powers as part of their plan to have her help free them from the limbo that the Negative Forces had trapped them in by way of the same time sickness that had infected Iris.
13 hours ago, tennisgurl said:Even Thawne said that none of this would have happened if he had just let the bastard wink out of existence, and he's right. He seems to be gone now, but I don't trust this show to stick with it, they do love beating several dead horses, like the stupid speed forces and Frost.
Nope. Thawne is done. The show runner made clear in several post-finale interviews that both his and Frost's deaths are going to stick, although he also said that Tom Cavanagh would be back next season in a different role. No word yet on who that will be, though.
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3 hours ago, AmigaJoe said:
Was there supposed to be a difference in appearance after the procedure? I didn't see any.
Topa had some curves and a more feminine build and appearance after the procedure. Her fingernails were also slightly longer and manicured to look more like a girl's fingernails.
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57 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said:
He did something to Bizarro Earth and "normal" Earth using his Superman whatever-the-plot-says-he-can-do powers, not un-reminiscent of when movie Superman reversed time by flying backwards.
Not by flying backwards. By flying faster than light per the Theory of Relativity. Time-traveling that way was one of his canon comic-book powers during the Silver Age.
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7 hours ago, SevenStars said:
Will there even be a S9 if CW is sold before it comes out or start filming ?
The show had already been renewed for Season 9 before the CW massacre that took Legends and Batwoman from us took place. The question, therefore, is whether there will be a Season 10 for The Flash.
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On 6/22/2022 at 11:47 PM, thuganomics85 said:
Christ, the citizens of Smallville are the worst! Considering all the crazy shit that has already been proven to exist in this universe (and that's not including everything else on the other shows, if you still want to go with the Arrowverse being connected in a major way), them acting like the idea of multiple universes and doppelgängers was that far-fetch was hilariously ridiculous. I can understand a certain level of shock and initial questioning, but they were mainly just dolts for most of it. At least Superman made an appearance and told them it was all true. And we see once again why Clark is truly a hero, because he didn't start things off with "Listen here, dipshits..."
But did you notice how he looked right at Former Mayor Asshole at the end of his speech as he said the words "trying to promote her own self-interests"? That was a priceless own!
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29 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:
No, Mom just studied French and some Latin (and, much later, Hawaiian).
Thanks for the explanation, @legaleagle53.
Yet another mystery is solved of an odd memory that has been occasionally bubbling to the surface of my conscious thought for half a century.Do Norwegian, Swedish, and Finnish follow the same Germanic syntax of the "separable prefixes"? There were a lot of kids in my school whose ancestors were from those places.
Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, and Dutch do, since they're all Germanic languages. Finnish, however, is NOT a Germanic language. Its closest relative is Hungarian, so it's an entirely different animal.
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1 minute ago, meowmommy said:
Before the dawn...before morning...before noon...before sunset. Those can't be adverbs because adverbs can't modify nouns, right?
I'm not being whiny; I really want to know.
Correct. "Before" in those phrases is a preposition, not an adverb. Adverbs can only modify verbs, adjectives, or other adverbs, never nouns.
The problem is that many words like "before" can be used as different parts of speech in English, and one has to rely on the context to understand how they are being used in a given sentence.
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On 6/17/2022 at 4:00 AM, shapeshifter said:
Nor can I claim to be a grammarian.
But now I am reminded of Mom warning us away from adopting a turn of phrase frequently used by those around our new home in the Chicago suburbs when we moved there from New England in 1963.
It was the custom at that time in that part of the Midwest to be invited to go somewhere by being asked:
“Do you want to come with?”
Later, at home and out of earshot of the offending speaker lest she be rude, Mom repeated what she had heard and then scornfully asked:
“With what?”
“With whom?”
——in such a way that we would be sure to never utter such an egregious grammatical error ourselves.A few years later I don’t recall any other family members watching Star Trek with me, but now I can imagine Mom asking disdainfully:
“Boldly go before what?”I don’t know. Was it Shatner’s sonorous voice that made the declaration? If so, Mom might have given him a pass, considering “before” to be an adverb modifying “to go,”
——if that’s grammatically correct enough.But Mom would only have allowed it if she heard Shatner’s voice without seeing him dressed in his Star Fleet uniform. Mom was also very fashion conscious and critical.
Mom clearly never studied German or any other languages related to English. That's a very common practice in those languages. For example, in German, we'd say "Kommst du mit?" ("Are you coming with?") No German would ever ask "Mit wem?" ("With whom?") in response, because "mit mir" ("with me") is understood. Words like "mit" are called separable prefixes, and they are the origin of our practice of ending sentences with prepositions.
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On 6/16/2022 at 9:58 PM, meowmommy said:
Yeah, I took a couple of years of Latin 50 years ago. I think I can still conjugate a few verbs, and you are correct, of course, that Latin infinitives don't allow for "to."
Before is also a preposition of time. Adverbs still need to be modifying something, and I don't see what it's modifying in the clause. I will, however, defer to true grammarians, which I cannot claim to be.
As a preposition, "before" is a preposition of place, not time.
In this case, "before" is an adverb of time modifying the compound verb "has gone" that immediately precedes it. And if you will remember your Latin, there was an equivalent temporal adverb: "antea" ("ante" is the preposition -- "before" in the locative sense -- and "antequam" is the corresponding temporal conjunction (as in "Wake me up before you go.").
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31 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:
Silly question:
What is the date/time setting of the show?2422 or thereabouts.
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14 hours ago, Dr.OO7 said:
I hate that episode too. Sondra AGREED to let her mother and mother-in-law take the babies so that she could rest and not risk getting them sick. For her to let Elvin get her riled up to the point of outright acting as though they'd literally kidnapped them was completely out of line and ridiculously overdone. Not mention screaming her head off at her father and brother, who had nothing to do with it.
Another "Cosby Show" moment:
Rudy comes to her parents with what is actually a very mature and well spoken argument about why she feels that some of their rules are unfair, like her her early bedtime. So Cliff and Clair tell her she can stay up as late as she wants. Of course, she does, and the next day, Cliff is all smug and satisfied when her teacher reports that she was cranky and tired in class. He later plans that they're going to stay up late again to watch TV and is even more pleased when she falls asleep. The overall message is a very patronizing "Your parents are always right and you should never question or challenge them.", not "Don't deliberately set your kid (or anyone, for that matter) up to fail." There's no reason they couldn't have simply extended her bedtime by a half hour with a warning that it was going back to the original time if she couldn't handle it.
I'd say that it was more a matter of teaching Rudy that "actions have consequences." Or, as Benjamin Franklin once put it, "Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other."
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12 hours ago, meowmommy said:
The first instinct should be to blame the writers and the director, although the actor also ought to have a responsibility to point out when grammar has boldly gone where no man has gone before.
[So, of course, I'm obligated to point out the obvious. "To boldly go where no man has gone before" splits an infinitive and unnecessarily ends a clause with a preposition.]
Neither of which was ever a real rule in English. Both were superimpositions by 18th Century grammarians who insisted that English should be more like Latin. Latin can't have split infinitives because Latin infinitives are a single word; there is no counterpart to the "to" in "to go." And Latin can never end a sentence with a preposition because Latin prepositions must always govern an object, from which it can never be separated.
That said, the clause in question doesn't end with a preposition in any event. "Before" isn't a preposition as it's used here. It's an adverb of time, so it CAN end the clause.
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Indeed. He was exactly six months shy of reaching the century mark. And he remained sharp as a tack to the end. RIP Mr. Storch, and thanks for the countless hours of entertainment that I grew up laughing along with!