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These are things I've picked up on that I have no idea if I'm right. 1. Ryan sent the dick pick to Heather A. during their "break." When caught he resent it to a bunch of people and said it was a mistake and meant for Jenn. 2. Tamra and Heather A. believe Ryan sent to dick pic to Heather A. and it was FOR Heather A. 3. The person Ryan slept with on their break was Heather A. (which is why Tamra knows everything and Heather A is so invested). 4. Tamra really dislikes Jenn 5. Heather D. really wants everyone to know that she bought Mark Cuban dinner

I'm glad they are showing Gino and Jasmine getting along. I think they have cute personalities. Amanda and her smirking and covering her mouth with her hands at everything must be a nervous thing. Razvan telling Amanda that his mom would like her because he would bring her to America was a dumb move. He thought this would console her that his mom would like her, but it just came off as shady. And she did explain that to him, but he didn't get it. I was glad to see her eat something, because she seems to be starving herself. Cleo looks almost exactly like my 12-year old niece. I sort of wish I could post a picture-- it's like the exact same face. I'm not sure what Cleo sees in Christian. And somehow she thinks they made love-- or at least she said that, though her face and Christian's face and explanation didn't excude any sort of happiness. And Christain said they didn't have sex. I sort of feel like it is Cleo that is lying, but I'm not sure why. I'm also not sure why Cleo being trans is that big of a deal-- like excusing Christian because he hasn't been with a trans woman before. He knows Cleo, and what to expect. He needs to catch up and stop using it as an excuse to be weird and emotionally unavailable, IMO.

Oh my gosh Princess doll, this made me LOL so hard. They probably took the opp to bounce to do their real lives until producers called them back.

You nailed it. Delusional. She got work during the height of the Sopranos and was cast as an Italian. Sopranos is way over. And people are better at casting within culture. There is no work for an older woman who looks like they have had a lot of plastic surgery.

Emily must have really bad self esteem to put up with Shane constantly making "jokes" at her expense. He doesn't seem to really like being around the family-- doing family stuff. At their dinner when they both ordered steaks, and his was bigger, OF COURSE he had to make a rude comment that the "small guy" gets the big steak-- insinuating that Emily should have been given the larger cut. Rude. He also made fun of her and told the kids to treat mom like a Scarecrow, and was just mean and did not seem like he wanted to be there at all. He couldn't even keep his shit together and his bad attitude and mean streak in check to take a family photo, and Emily nervously asked him about taking a happy family picture. It's clear that Shane's parents are wealthy-- if they got divorced she probably wouldn't get anything, and then she would lose that funding stream. Tamra's comment that she couldn't stop looking at Ryan because of how silly he was dressed made me laugh. He looked like he wandered off the set of Sopranos. He is not good looking-- he looks strung out and I think he just tells Jen what she wants to hear. So Tamra pretends to bury the hatchet AGAIN with Jen. Tamra is not going to rest until she Jenn to break. Jen, again, kept her composure throughout the whole evening, which means, Tamra is in no way done.

I'm far behind. Does Heather not live in that big house she was building for so long? Where do they live now?

IMO, Shannon is the best person on this show. She's real, funny, kooky, and pretty harmless. She's extremely entertaining. She's really come into her own on this show. Let herself grow-- she's so much different without David. In a good way.

I STILL like Tamra! She is relentless trying to wear down Jenn and get her to admit Ryan cheated on her. I thought what they were saying earlier in the season was Ryan cheated while on a "break" with Heather Amin or something. Heather A and Tamra are on a mission to get Jenn to admit it-- and I think this episode she did-- she said that she wasn't with anyone on their break, and it hurt that he was, but she is over it, and doesn't want to go back there. I think there is A LOT more to the story and Jenn is no way going there, and Tamra way is. I like Taylor's supporting role. She's around, but she isn't obsessed with camera time, and she adds some fun commentary here and there. Heather Dubrow has been desperate for Tamra's friendship forever. Back when Tamra got married, and Tamra said something about not caring if she was in her wedding, Heather literally broke down. I think Tamara is the popular girl that she always tried to hang with, and now she is living out her teen dream.

I have no idea why Jasmine wants to marry Gino. And she has sons-- I would be worried having Gino as any type of father figure. Nicola has no idea what to do with emotions. Both Meisha and Nicola don't seem happy with each other. I think when Meisha cries, it puts too much pressure on Nicola, and he doesn't know what to do, and he gets angry because he isn't used to any type of challenges. I think Razvan's cheesy constant attempts to have sex are pushing Amanda away.

If Chris does have a drinking problem, he can't help it-- it's his brain. He's out with Cleo, but his focus is on how to keep drinking-- he started the conversation with the table next to them to start a party so he could keep drinking. Chris may not know much about autism, but Cleo doesn't know much about alcoholism. This relationship is doomed.

What a pain. No wonder they do so many at-home theme parties This is the first time I'm watching OC in years-- only because Tamara is back (I KNOW you hate me). In any case, Tamara is very beautiful, but she is jealous of people-- she was very very jealous of Gretchen back in the early days. She was also jealous of Alexis-- but I think ultimately, they didn't connect because Tamara is much older than them. She is more in the same age group as Shannon, Vicki and Taylor. Did Taylor say she was going through menopause? Maybe that's why she's a little out of it. Everything Heather does and says seems like she is trying to impress people with her intelligence and money. No one is impressed with Heather's intelligence and money except Heather. Shannon was right about Heather always trying to one-up her with money. I think it bothered both Heather and Terry that David-- lowly construction guy-- was wealthy. I wonder if Heather likes Terry having affairs since it keeps him busy. They don't seem to enjoy time together at all. Tamara and Eddy hang out, so do Jenn and Ryan and Gina and Travis. Heather's time with Terry is usually complaining about something in his office, where he dismisses her with sarcasm. Shane also seems to barely tolerate Emily for the few minutes that he obligates when he comes home. He gives an emotionless hello to Emily and Annabell, ignores the boys, and stands next to Emily and makes a few rude comments. Shane and Terry suck.

Yep-- which annoys the crap out of Tamra.

I noticed that Emily had bright red nails at the salon, but the rest of the episode they were pale colored. Makes me wonder about the timeline of things. I think Tamra is super pretty, she just has gorgeous bone structure and I can't help but really like her. I like her and Shannon together, and I know everyone hates me now. I sort of get why Tamra is so irritated with Jenn-- she has this somewhat flat affect and doesn't react to things-- she seems very controlled and the things she says seem scripted and practiced. Or maybe that's why I find her annoying. Emily's new thing is to say something in her interview and then laugh. Gina thought Heather was her friend? Really?

Shannon got a kick ass settlement. Gina not so much.

I think that both of Heather's comments were digs at Tamra. First, she says that people that do manual labor are important and (basically) let rich people have beautiful lives-- all the ranch work they were doing was what Tamra's son Ryan does on the ranch he works on. I sort of think it was Heather's way of telling Tamra that she appreciates the work Ryan does, but obviously, it came off really offensively. Then of course, she tells Tamra that she is leaving her out and makes Tamra responsible for her low. Travis seems like a nice guy. But I'm sure Gina misses Matt-- he was/is hot.

I think I saw something announced that Healther Amin was going to be on the show and was a friend of Tamra's. Obviously, they went with Jenn instead, and I don't think Tamra is very happy about it. I also don't think that Tamra likes Jenn at all, and definitely not Ryan. And I think she has a really hard time being nice to people she doesn't like or that try to hide things.

Wait. So Sattler just goes outside and picks up wood/debris and makes comments on the bugs? Huh? That's called kindergarten. Cleo is a weirdo, but Christian is extra. Why are my posts gone? Riley's eyebrows look like a catepillar. They go almost to his hairline when he has something to say, which is always.

There has been attention on Heather's butt. I remember the first episode of the season, Terri made a (gross leering) comment about her butt when she was helping him after his procedure-- and the camera zoomed in a couple times as well when she was straddling Tamra. Not sure, but it seems like they are trying to make Heather's butt a thing. Tamra and Shannon drink way too much. The fact they could take that many shots and then function the next day blows my mind. They are hard core party girls. I'd be dead if I drank that much. Gina is more upset at Jenn for cheating than she is her ex husband. Didn't she say Matt's girlfriend, who he was with while he was married, hangs out with her, too? She can be friends with Matt's girlfriend who helped break up their family, but she can't tolerate Jenn? Weird. Has to be just for the sake of a storyline. I'm confused about the Ryan story. So Ryan goes into the gym and says he is going to f** Tamra? Or Jenn? Is the point that he was targeting someone married? The way I understood it at first, is that Ryan walked into the gym, saw Jenn, and told Tamra, "I'm going to f** her!" I don't really get the story.

I don't know-- I think Tamra is KILLING it. She created the Heather and Taylor acting feud, then as that simmers, she starts the next drama with Jenn and her lying. All the while still keeping the question mark above her and Shannon's make-up. Shannon and Tamra are a great team for fluffing up and starting drama-- then leaving while focusing on starting new drama streams. Gina trying to call out Tamra for creating storylines and keeping the show going-- she doesn't get it. Tamra deciding to sleep with Jenn-- beyond strategic.

I *think* that in the early days having the penis removed was the standard, but people soon realized they missed the pleasure the penis provided. I don't think many trans people (who have a penis) get rid of their penises now. Apparently, having a penis is pretty amazing and everyone wants one. Caitlin Jenner kept hers.

When I say "professional" I mean "industry" work. According to this her first TV role was in 1994, but her IMDB says 1991. Regardless, her first big professional gig was in her 30s. This story lays out a bit of her trajectory. Old Story

Deep. I think he will go to his grave thinking this was the person contacting him. His sister is maybe playing with him a bit, but it's ultimately up to him to accept the truth. Unless he has some mental or IQ issue that hasn't been addressed, it's really on him IMO. His sister is seems a little scared of him.

Amanda, though very not "made for reality TV' given her stoic nothingness she brings, is smart to be wary of the dude. He is a player. Those tears were so fake, and unfortunately, I think she fell for it. He's trying hard to have sex, IMO. What's up with the guy that won't accept he was scammed, and insists this is a real person. What a moron-- he's exactly why there are so many scammers-- people are just so desperate to believe they are in a relationship. Now he's thinking she is a victim of human trafficking. Very sad how sheltered and how few coping mechanisms people have. I think he is refusing to believe this lady is real because he has no capacity or skills to handle disappointment, rejection, and humiliation, and lives in a very small, sheltered world. He would rather play this out than admit he was wrong and was scammed.

Heather didn't start acting professionally until her 30's I believe. I think a revival is out of the question at this point. No shade either, but she's much older and she has a plastic surgery look now. Plus, she always played Italians because it was the 90s and Sopranos was hot, and so was Italian focused shows. (Heather is not one bit Italian). Now it will be even more difficult to find a role for an aging Jewish woman who looks like she has had a lot of plastic surgery. In "That's Life" she had the same personality as now. Always acting like something is stupid or wrong, or ridiculous. Of course, "That's Life" sort of sets up a series of mishaps that the character has to deal with, and dumb people. But Heather still acts like everyone is an idiot. This is totally my problem, but it bugs the shit out of me when they use Jewish people to play Italians, or Italian people to play Hispanic people-- I get racist vibes, but I can't put a finger to it. In Heather's mind, she "could have" been a permanent cast member (but raising her kids), so that's the same, to her, as being a permanent cast member. She's a bit shady and extremely delusional.

Taylor and Heather are having a bit of a "do you know who I am" moments. Taylor is wanting Heather to know she has the in with a director or producer and can get people roles. Heather wants Taylor to know that she is professional actor and she knows that securing acting roles isn't as straightforward as a referral.