Sunnybobs

Gosh Misty that was such an inspiring thing to read, so brave to have escaped yourself but it must be so upsetting to see your siblings still there. How many children from these families do you think manage to actually leave the lifestyle? I didn't really know anything about quiver full before finding this forum and can see that the Duggar show watched without knowledge or reflection of what is really being shown does just seem to market itself as "wholesome family fare" etc which seems widely off the mark from what's really happening. How did you get in contact with family to escape or were you pushed out for expressing your own views? Some families just haunt me like RV Rodrigues family someone linked to on here - I'm just staggered people can get away with that lifestyle and promoting it. So depressing.

Yes I thought the same - the name & exposure seems to be what got him the FRC job & so he probably needs both, he just looks like he'd rather have other options all the time, it just shows that Jim Bob & Michelles real sin is not educating their children enough to give them real life choices for their futures

Does anyone else think that if Josh could he'd pull out of the show? It seems that he's enjoying his Washington role, their house & lifestyle etc. I wonder if he would pull out if he felt more secure in his education and chances to survive on his own mettle? Or is he just far too enmeshed to get out?

I don't think Josh was very coddled though - eldest of 19? He's the original buddy and spent the longest living in the tiny house and being shoved around as each new sibling came in. Really it's only Anna who's given him the love and attention one to one that he's been missing out on for years. I do think he's looking increasingly exhausted & he's have been happy staying with kynzie and michael for quite some years. I can't help really liking Anna & Josh as a couple though and still secretly rooting for them breaking awak a bit!

Disappointing but not sure yet how they could have avoided it. Yes I expect some sibling at some point to draw a line in the sand and introduce birth control or staggered pregnancies but these girls (Jill and Jessa) have only just got married to very conservative men who share their mindset of no birth control. I'm not at all surprised that they're both pregnant so quickly. It's going to take a very brave sister to start that conversation when they've been taught all their life that birth control is a sin, accepting babies is their mission in life etc etc. Anna & Josh are probably more likely to be the first ones to start controlling properly - Josh seems to be have always been over the idea of a huge family. I feel sorry for these girls who don't seem to be able to see another way yet at all.

Yes I've just seen the Jessa visiting Ben's house one (England is only showing S8 as the most recent!) - one of Ben's sister says "dot the pie with butter" and Jessa is genuinely confused - she has to ask what that means and the sister has to explain exactly what to do. It's such a shame that Ben & Jessa can't start married life nearer his sisters & parents, I know they're also fundamentalist but they do at least seem to value homemaking as a skill. While I don't agree with either family choices/lifestyle it does seem that if you're only going to be allowed to cook, clean & rear children you might as well actually try to do those things properly and at least feed your children real food.

In the UK all care is midwife led first unless high risk. NHS guidelines are to start induction 12 days after due date (scan date) unless obviously needed earlier or the mother refuses induction (as is her right) in which case they monitor daily & scan until either baby arrives or the mother changes mind about induction, I was induced at 12 days past with my first and was more than happy to be so but no one involved in my care would have done it sooner as the risks are just not there with a low risk healthy pregnancy. And they positively encourage you to have home births here! Am sure Jill is aware of all risks & she sounds like she's happy to be guided by health professionals.

What I can't understand is how they've chabged so fast from their first special - in the filming sequences from their first house they are often filmed in front of bookshelves filled with books, one of the girls (Jessa maybe?) makes reference to little house on the prairie when she sees the new build and Michelle has a whole wall of sequences daily activity to keep track of their daily schedule. Also they show the boys & girls in pjs & waiting for showers. So how did it all decline so rapidly on move to the new house??

This is a question based on old episodes showing in the UK but I just saw one where Anna went to a mommy and me playgroup and when she gets there Michael starts yelling & is really upset because "oh he thinks it's nursery and hes going to be left". Would this be a church nursery he has experience of or has Anna left them in other nursery setting - either way I was quite surprised & it did seem to show that their kids have much wider experience already. Also an episode where they are having new "friends" over & the wife who is coming is in the national guard & working nights - is this TLC introducing the idea of them meeting new people or josh & Anna striking out on their own a tiny bit.