RainbowBrite

I personally feel extremely uncomfortable when religion or ideology is mixed into any service that is provided. I completely understand the value that these people are providing, and I completely appreciate that they truly feel that they are doing "good", but I still do not like that it comes with any sort of strings at all (even if they are only passively bringing their religion to the people by waiting to be asked). If the same people went with a group that was not affiliated with a church and went to provide assistance to the local community, I wouldn't have an issue. They can have their own personal beliefs, but when they are in any way related to the service they provide, I do not like it. With the Duggars, I feel this to the nth degree. It is extremely tacky how they arrive at some foreign place, continually point out how different it is from their home, push their religion onto the local people, and provide less-than-stellar services in return. It really turns my stomach and I feel that they are taking advantage of a vulnerable population.

I would say Derrick is getting his share of the heat on this because we are on the Derrick forum? 1 out of 10 chance of maiming/killing the cat is still too high for my standards, but I understand you have your own.

Agreed...what if a victim/survivor did not believe in God? How do they feel any sense of justice in that situation?

I don't think that's the concern so much, as the fact that he was trying to hit the cat and was enjoying the challenge. I don't trust people who show that little regard/that much disdain for animals.

I totally get that, that's why I was asking the original poster why she felt so terribly for JB & Michelle at this junction.

I believe this is a tragedy for everyone in the family including JB and Michelle. I often have differing opinions from posters on this forum, but I can usually at least understand and respect where they're coming from. Can you explain how you feel this way about JB and Michelle in this situation? It seems as though this is so much their doing.

Wow, I have honestly never read the bible before but of course in day-to-day life I have heard/read parts of it. That passage made me feel sick in the pit of my stomach. The fact that people are reading this and adopting it in their lives is sickening. For all of my compliants about ME-chelle, I don't feel that she remains quiet and fully submissive to JB, so I have to give her credit there (did I just say that??).

Hello all :) I am a long-time lurker, very infrequent poster! Here is my thought: I was not raised in a religious home, but my parents provided me with answers to any questions I had in the form of an illustrated children's bible. They didn't tell me whether it was a fictional book or the truth. They dropped me off at church when I was curious about it, without passing any judgment. Growing up, there was never a point at which I believed any of it. I went through the exploration/reading/attending church to try to figure out what I was missing, that other people saw in it that made them believe. In my early 20's I took a Meyers-Briggs personality test, and my personality type came up ISTJ. I recently googled my personality type, and learned that ISTJ's make up a huge percentage of athiests. It got me thinking about the Duggars; with so many children, there is a chance that at least one of them has a similar personality type to me. I wonder if all the children really believe what their parents have been teaching them all this time, or if even one of them just plays along. I myself don't know how I would have dealt with my athiesm in a less open family.

Oh my gosh *nothing to see here*

You can go late with your first and you can also go early. I know from personal experience and the people around me, the mother's size (5' tall vs. 5'9") seems to have some impact on when their babies have been born. I am tall and went over 41 weeks with both. Two friends who are closer to 5' went at around 35-37 weeks with their first. I think Jill is simplifying the facts way too much by stating most first time mothers go late.